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Amotolongbo:
I understand that you are suffering from nostalgic syndrome.

Empire rises and fall. What’s left behind after the fall of an empire is the legacy.

From your analysis, Constantinople was the capital of the Ottoman Turkish empire at their peak before 1922 before it finally crumbled. The empire is now reduced to Turkey with a new capital Ankara.

If not for politics and constitution, maintaining tradition would Alaafin have the power to control whoever is ruling Ibadan as Baale? Present constitution is the one giving the Alaafin the privilege it enjoys. Of course Oyo and her king can’t withstand Ibadan if they go to war. Ibadan will be the one controlling Oyo cos Ibadan will be an empire on its own.

Once again, quit nostalgic syndrome. A train that is gone is gone.

It's very easy to seive out you people's senseless hypocrisy and bias.
When it comes to ọọni, we must preserve history and tradition, but when it comes to Alaafin, the ọyọ empire no longer exists. Judge yourself, do you sense if you think like this

maidstone:
You are a liar!

Alaafin was the permanent chairman of traditional rulers of old Oyo State

Don't mind these ìfẹ people, they just want to change history by force

mikeapollo:
The Ooni cannot be compared with any other Oba in Yoruba land, including the Alaafin. So don't bring that argument of Osyn State
The Soun of Ogbomosho is a co-equal of Alaafin. The Alaafin is not superior to the Soun

I don't argue with daft people or hypocrites.
For you to say this, You either don't know anything about Yoruba history and Kingdom, or you're just a hypocrite.
Ọọni is never and will never be above Alaafin of ọyọ, and I'm not even from ọyọ State.

seunmsg:
Some of you don’t know history. You just come online to react without having a perfect understanding of the issues.

Without Ibadan, there wouldn’t be an Alaafin at Ago Oja today. The new Oyo where we now have an Alaafin owns their existence to the benevolence of the Ibadan people.

Again, the Oyo that once ruled over an empire is dead. Dead and buried. It is never coming back. Alaafin’s current jurisdiction is limited strictly to Ago Oja and nowhere else. Ibadan or any other town is not under the control whatsoever of any Alaafin. In fact, Ibadan is a bigger, richer and more influential city than Oyo so it’s even the Olubadan that should be making the case for the permanent chairmanship of Oyo State council of Obas.

Some of you just lack understanding and decorum.
What is this nonsense of if not for Ibadan that I keep reading!?
It's like a situation of Nigeria at war, Abuja and the president is under attack and ogun state or kogi State governor coming to his rescue etc. Take a moment to digest that.
So because Ogun State or kogi State came to the rescue of the president, then we should all worship them and place them above the president? Does that even make sense to you?
Was the olubadan not a chief to Alaafin?
Were these warriors and soldiers in Ibadan not subjects of Alaafin?
Go and educate yourself on history and Kingdom of the Yoruba people.

Northsouth:
Alaafin will not be very happy with this
They just want to render him powerless

Anyway Alaafin self, him too get pride.
Him wey dey do anyhow to government recognize Ooni as Yoruba ruler

Pride comes before destruction

Tell me the exact pride of Alaafin that some of you keeps talking about? That a king does not stand to greet another king is now disrespect? You think kingship is about age? How will it look to you if a father is standing to greet a son or subject? Historically, All these Yoruba kings you see today were subjects to Alaafin, many were just chiefs before Alaafin made some of them kings. Royal is about culture and history, and not about age of the person on the throne or today's politics.

Goodvibes007:
They are controlling their own domain.

Governor Makinde and the Oyo state house of asembly started the rotation for justice, fairness, and equity.

Truth be told, if not for Ibadan, Fulani would have colonized the whole of Yorubaland. They deserve their flowers.

If not for Ibadan, alot of us would have been bearing names like AbdulRaman, Abdullahi, Abdulmalik e.t.c just like in Ilorin. The Ibadans were the ones that stopped the conquest of the Fulani jihadist at Oshogbo on the their way to dip their sword in the Atlantic ocean as per the desire of Uthman Dan Fodio.

Where is the fairness and justice in Osun State?
Is the ọọni the only King and paramount king in Osun State? Let's not be hypocritical in our analysis.

Which one is if not for Ibadan?
Some of you just like creating unnecessary divisions
What's the difference between Oyo and Ibadan?
Who even created and fortified the Ibadan? Is not not Alaafin - Oyo? Are the Ibadan chiefs not Alaafin chiefs from the beginning?

muyico:
Ibepe eso eyinbo
Ibepe eyinbo

Why is oyinbo added to it?
Ibepe is ibepe

What's the difference between Europeans and ones in USA? They're all family members...

Sacrilege!

What a time!
Kingdom, kingship and throne has no been reduced to political and age position, it's no longer about the throne...

This absolutely makes no sense!

This can never happen in Edo, Ogun or Osun state, where ọọni is the permanent chairman.
Why is that? Are the Paramount kings in those states that are the PERMANENT chairman the only king in those states?
Even before the creation of Osun State, Alaafin was above ọọni,
The Alaafin of Oyo served as the Chairman of the Oyo State Council of Obas and Chiefs.
By that structure, he was the official presiding traditional ruler over Obas from Oyo, Osun, and parts of present-day Ogun State.

It was even Alaafin that made olubadan who used to just be a chief to Alaafin a king, he created that Kingdom.


Give respect and honour to whom it is due.

Why is colleges of education receiving so much?
How many colleges of education do we have compared to universities?

Lol

Now, it's AI chatgpt they're protesting about

Don't they apprehend these evil kidnappers?

Absolutely

He's very correct

Lol
Why Ghana and South Africa always intimidated by us and jealous of our progress?

Ghana!
Ghana!!
Ghana!!!
How many times did I call you people?
And they're many on this forum

Racoon:
Crude oil no more Venezuela again?

The said producer and not reserved (stored or gifted by nature)

Sales boy is JJC
That criminals took advantage of that

Good.

A lot of people will soon start suing them too

Trouble maker...

That's his tactics anyways

Deportation straight


Let him come and join farming in Nigeria...

Wow
So they even have a child together...

Interesting...
You people should see your clowns...

Northernblood8:
Traditional bone doctors are very good.

A few of them that knows their onions.
Many are also SCAMMERS doing trial and error

Glory
Glory
Glory

Thank goodness for him

Why is he even reacting?

The predictor is a clown

Why should surveillance cost that much if not gross corruption and evil!?


2.5b is even enough to build some bridge.

Release bandits!?
After peace deal indeed 😃



And fg will allow this?

One of very few monarchs that respects themselves and their position.
RIP

Yẹyẹ harassment

Iiiiiiii

Lol

Prevention is better than cure...if you know you know

Lol
This man is very funny