Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:45pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: there's no point debating with stark illiterates. haba...na fight? only losers resort to name-callings when on the verge of losing argument....c'mon we all learn everday afterall |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 11:42pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: Tolulana
Yomilana
 lol...m seriz..it aint stictly feminine here joorh |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:38pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
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Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:36pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: in the united states. google is your friend i think you shud take your advice  |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:34pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: are you kidding me? consent was given to the act, consent wasn't given for the man to ejacülate. she told her hubby to pull out but the hubby refused telling her "i am your husband and i shall do what i please". she got pregnant as a result & she took the matter to court.
at first hearing, the case was dismissed then it went to the high court & 3 lord judges deliberated and re-examined the case. this time they came with a verdict that it was räpe since her choice was taken away from her. i will look into my archives later & send you the link. even british women were embarrassed with the ridiculousness of the verdict & how it's a mockery to the genuine victims of räpe.
just so you know - a woman can never räpe a man in the west. at worst, she can only get sëxual assault. the only instance women get charged for rapë is when she's an accomplice to a man räping another woman.
so if a woman spikes your drink & mounts you without your consent, it doesn't amount to räpe. the explanation is only a man carries an organ that can penetrate so women cân never râpe. I'm still curious to read the facts of that case..aii,until then sha. That is so because most american states now refer to the act as sex.ual assault nd d likes and as a matter of fact the US federal laws doesnt use the word 'r@pe' and a woman can actually be charged for assaulting a man sexually. Btw are u speculating here or stating facts because the penalty for that act of spiking drinks can be up to 15 years gender notwithstanding! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 11:19pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: lana del ray?
lana turner?
Feminine name adelana...oluwalana  |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:13pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: after 2013, they included the penetration angle. two teenagers are making out. the girl unzips the boy's trousers & grabs his manhood. the boy returns the gesture by sticking a finger in. since she didn't consent to that particular act, he has räped her. in what jurisdiction is the boldened act criminalized as rape |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:09pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Actually d thing is most african countries focus their definitions of rape on consent and its really tough proving lack of consent |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 11:02pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: that's why it's on tape. from the whole conversation since she got into the bedroom to the actual do, a sensible prosecutor would deduce if she was coerced or gagging for it. prosecutors would quickly strike off the case before their client gets charged for claiming false rapë.
it wasn't one case - this was in a high court. lord judges sat down & examined the case and they all agreed the woman was räped since she was deprived of choice with the consequence that her consent was negated. sighting the case wud be rily helpful if u dnt mind. My point remains until proven that her consent wasn't given to the action,d r@pe thingy remains a claim |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 10:52pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: It is feminine it is not oh..,that lana is a fictional xcter na |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 9:38pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: don't be too hasty to say excuses of shock to resist get rebutted. in the UK, if the woman didn't say yes, the accused cops a rapë charge.
a woman took her husband to a UK court that she was räped. the agreement was that husband should not ejäculate into her. hubby got carried away and did otherwise. the judge agreed she was räped because what was agreed prior the sëx act was breached by the hubby.
so my friend, räpe in my neck of the woods is very delicate. men here practically put a tape recorder somewhere in the room before proceeding & we make sure we ask 20 times before doing the do. if she does not say yes verbally, no sensible man should proceed otherwise....... actually i tot we were referring to african jurisdictions? btw...thats jez one case,a particular judge's decision that could have been appealed against until i see the facts...evennif its on tape and u say yes to the man due to coercion,she can still make her case because she said yes under duress....all that matters s a good counsel,solid evidence and a really good judge/jury |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 8:33pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
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Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 8:32pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
coogar: no, it doesn't a woman has to say yes to sex to qualify it as consensual sex. lack of resistance does not suggest consensual sex. lawyers will use the technicality that she was too scared or too shocked to resist. this is why i said rapë cases are very complex cases. of course rape cases are always technically complex as per d suspected rapist is innocent until shown otherwise and its always hard to prove that she didnt consent to the s£x in cases like this. Excuses that she was too shocked to resist get rebutted mostly and cases where they are tolerated are highly elusive |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 8:23pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
TheBigUrban2: Wassap Lana?
The only man with a heroine's name  lmao  it aint a feminine name tho :p m pretty good sha....how's ur end? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 5:29pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
ATMC: #smiles...I copied it from someone on here. No it doesn't. Yhu now 'knoh'.  Is it who i think it is? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 5:11pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
I asked d simple question below: lanaVello1: how exactly does homosexuality affect you? except threat of human extinction and thats y u r meant to procreate and u tried dodging it with this: freshdude2: Nah, humour me. Tell me what you think. still you're asking me "to debate your rationality"....smH |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 5:05pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
freshdude2: Shut up and park well, oga. You have nothing to say. I have stated my opinion, you can either debate my rationality or shut up. Don't come here dropping "big words" hoping to sound smart. If you've got nothing to say stop quoting me, fvcking faggit. haba,we dey fight? only retards resort to name-calling when on the verge of losing arguments... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 2:20pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
freshdude2: Nah, humour me. Tell me what you think. mtscheeew..circumvention...smH |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 1:37pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
MrAnony1: Good now consider this scenario presented by InesQor
" I will drop a really very subtle one here; the case of a woman [b] THAT LETS A MAN HAVE HIS OWN WAY without any physical resistance because she is desperate for a child. But she does not actually consent to the se'x. . .
E.g. the woman has a husband/partner who she'd rather sleep with, but someone else is taking advantage of her because she is facing pressure about having no children. She may then not physically resist the attacker (in her desperation) even though she is entirely disgusted by the means to her end. For some victims, when rap'e is set into motion, they cope with the event by forcing their minds to think of themselves as third party observers. This is the only way their minds can deal with the violation they are experiencing. Such as this example would often involve such a coping mechanism. But never forget that rap'e is always about CONSENT. Not purpose."[/b]
Is this scenario above different from the one involving John? If so how? Secondly, would you say that the woman has been r[color=#000000]ape[/color]d in this scenario? If so why? To me,the statement in capitals has already connoted an element of consent |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 1:29pm On Jul 23, 2014*. Modified: 2:00pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
freshdude2: Homozexuality affects you more than you know buddy how exactly does homosexuality affect you? except threat of human extinction and thats y u r meant to procreate freshdude2: Meanwhile, be aware that iincest is a crime: google David Epstein, iincest case . And what does justifiable offence mean? freshdude2: Meanwhile, enjoy your homosex world, brother-that-unnecessary-sarcasm-annoys. . I'm not the cause of your pain, don't bring your saltiness this way. i'ld pretend i didnt see that.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 1:16pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
FrancisTony: LOL! Your ID is kinda funny now.
Welcome back tho' its quite annoying o...left for few months en a new nick z now imposed on me...ah taya o,tanx buddy |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Apostolic Church Member :::chatbox::: by lanaVello1(m): 8:39pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
Omodaddye: C.A.C Mount of Salvation rily? thats great.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by lanaVello1(m): 8:32pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
hey guys...hope y'all are gud? just saying hi.. |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 8:27pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
rape as a crime is not just about plain consent,consent could also be obtained by coercion or under duress,u knw |
Nairaland General › Re: When Räpe Is Her Fault? by lanaVello1(m): 8:15pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
MrAnony1: Responding to the part highlighted in bold: I wonder how you can say that the woman was "physically subdued" when not only did she not physically resist sex from the man, she also wanted to have sex because she hoped to conceive by the act.
The scenario I showed you isn't any different. The man in my case equally did not physically resist his attacker because he wanted to have babies by her.
If you can't see that all you really presented was a woman who was committing adultery with the intent of having a child and saying that she was being taken advantage of then you are truly blinded by your bias towards the fairer sex.
Since you clearly don't count a r[color=#000000]api[/color]st turned from his evil ways as an example of an improved character, I would have liked you to explain to me what character building really means but alas you are gone.
I see no problem with violating a person who violates someone else. This to me is fair and deserved punishment for crimes committed. You never gave a single reason why it isn't. Thanks for your time anyway.
Edit: I have rephrased my senario again (I know you won't respond but please read it now and judge for yourself if I am really being ridiculous or if I have been right about you being biased towards females. Only you can truly answer that question to yourself)
"I would rather sleep with my husband but I sleep with my male colleague John because I am desperate to have children. As you can see, he is obviously taking advantage of me. I do not physically resist him when he touches me even though I am entirely disgusted by the sex we are having but I let it happen because I am desperate for children. Clearly you can see that John from the office is attacking me For victims like myself, when my co-worker starts having sex with me r[color=#000000]aping[/color] me, I can only cope by forcing my mind to think I am outside my body watching the act. This is the only way I can deal with the experience of being "violated" by him.
Never forget that [color=#000000]rap[/color]e is always about CONSENT. Not purpose. The fact that I didn't resist John because I actually want a baby is irrelevant. All that matters is that I never actually said yes to John."
Is John a r[color=#000000]api[/color]st in this scenario? You be the judge. john is no r@pist in this scenario |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 7:43pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
masonkz: To the young girl whose innocence may have been taken away, nope it is not only silence, but outright denial of her right to marry whom she wants to. thats most prolly due to d ;arents' greed,anyways pple are advocating for anti-pedophile laws |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 6:47pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
masonkz: So marrying of under-aged girls is illegal in Nigeria? i think the position of the law is silent regarding that |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 6:34pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
beryl04: Well dear, in this your sick country the latter is legal while the former is the norm,so, u go figure. where in your country is that legal? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 6:32pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
freshdude2: The world is civilising. Homozex has been accepted and legalised. Next on the list is iincest and pedophilia. Rejoice for progress. homosexuality is being legalized coz it most probably dpesnt affect you in any way,i'm not sure incest is a crime anywhere as it is not a justifiable offence. But paedophilia is another bal entirely,that encroaches on the rights of innocent kids so stop being sarcastic unnecessarily! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Bishop Calls Homophobes 'sick' by lanaVello1(m): 6:29pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
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