₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Hi Afam4eva

when are you visiting home in Abia? I heard there is a dance groove going on there

PrecisionFx:
""The first correct thing you ever said in a long while was that Edo & Itsekiri were never part of Biafra. And I still do not see them consenting to become part of your proposed republic, now or in the nearest future""

very baseless talk.
I never said they were, they have never been mentioned as biafra so unhave no point.

fratermathy:
Mr Niger DeltaIis One With Us,

Stop creating a wrong impression online when YOU KNOW THE TRUTH concerning the stand of all the non-Igboid ethnicities in the Niger Delta. Beg for unity where unity with you is wanted.

Thank you.!

attackgat:
You better google the Arewa statement again because the Arewa youths urged the federal govt to grant Igbos a referendum and that the quit notice was part of the process of helping Igbos get referendum

As for following a political process to get a referendum, the Biafran agitators will not go through this process, not just because Nigeria was created via an illegal colonial process, but also because it is a waste of time.

Even if Igbos some how got all its political representatives to suppport the idea of a referendum, they would still have to go back to the Nigerian national assembly to move a motion which just the Nw has enough votes to stop

Even if the entire Southern Nigeria reps wanted referendum made part of the constitution, just the NW and NE have enough votes to stop it. The Nigerian national assembly has already been rigged in such a way that the NW abd NE have enough bloc votes to stop any bill, this why restructuring will never be possible in Nigeria.

So a political process is a waste of time nobody is going to indulge in

VERDA:
While I do not think the army should have gotten involved in the first place, a lot of IPOB members are not the saints you paint them to be, some of them are anarchist, there are a lot of cases where they harassed other people because they do not share their believes,there have also been issues of looting and all. My take is that the bad eggs among them face the law for any crime they commit that can be proven,that they reserve the right to self determination without being killed but they must act within the armbits of the law and not jeopardize the security and safety of other citizens.

reality1010:
You did not make any sense here.is like u v exhausted all ur knowldge haven seen my explanations.U can hold on to a position properly.You behave like a Segun.Peole call Segun a stubborn in the head. I had one in my class ,hey! it was so difficult to teach him things in d class.Thank God u v my articles with u.Always read them to learn how to marchall out issues and do inquiries and analysis.

attackgat:
That is why Nigeria is an instrument of bondage. We could conduct our referendum but Nigeria wont recognise it. So we shall continue the agitation until such a time that the Nigerian government abd political establishment jointly agree to conduct a referendum in Igbo land. It will be long and hard but the agitation is working as the Arewa youths have even supported the Nigerian government giving us referendum. We shall get there and exit this burning house of Lord Lugard called Nigeria.

attackgat:
Well since you seem to be quoting history. It might interest you to know that Scotland signed the 1707 Act Of Union that brought the kingdoms of Scotland, England and Wales together as the United Kingdom.

So at least Scotlabd agreed to be part of them

The Igbo nation never agreed to be part of any union of Nigeria. Like most ethic groups, we were forced into an illegal colonial contraption called Nigeria against our will.

This why it is not necessary for us to do what Scotland did.

The basis of us asking the Nigerian state for a referendum is that we never gave our consent to be part of Nigeria in the first place and we now wish to formally withdraw from the British colonial arrangement called Nigeria which we were unfortunate to find ourselves in

GrandGarcon:
Fake news! Give a dog a bad name just to have a reason to kill it. Just as we heard that two police men were thrown into river niger. BTW before the cowards cameand caused this mayhem, was there even a protest anywhere in the east? If Police station was burned really, then blame the milliatry. You people live like animals because your politicians treat you like animals, and when anyone decides to open your eyes, you hate that person because you have been psychologically lobotomized.

plessis:
I was beginning to take you seriously until you typed this nonsense.. ..

so Africa has a different dictionary from the rest of the world?....

You're a lost soul

PrecisionFx:
Edo state was NEVER A PART OF BIAFRA.

Itshekiri were in the mid west n were not a part of biafra.

""an Igbo man, or an Igbo-dominated""

It's foolhardy to believe that they would want to remain with nigeria n entrust their entire destiny in a Yoruba n Hausa dominated nation after the Igbos in SE n SS are gone abi..

Innomach:
Igbos have leaders and representatives representing them. Even though we might disagree or dislike them because of their personalities or the process that brought them to the leadership level, the fact still remains that they are constitutionally recognized to represent their people. Anybody or group of persons cannot rise out of the blues claiming to represent the Igbos and start giving ultimatum to constituted authorities on what they want or death. If that is left unchecked, several other group and persons would come up with their own demands, thereby taking us to state of anarchy. I hope that is not what you want.

The solution is simple! If IPOB/Nnamdi Kanu think they represent the majority of Ndi Igbo, let them come up for elections, matching the present leaders tackle for tackle, man to man until they succeed in pushing forward their own candidates who share same ideology. It is only then that IPOB can truly claim to represent the people. Anything outside that is suicidal because the Nigerian government is going to treat them as miscreants and criminals, use them for shooting practice and nothing will happen. And if you keep consoling yourselves that the world is watching, you may just be living a life of fantasy because the world doesn't care about you. You guys have to read and understand international politics to learn that you are just on your own. The least they can do is sending relief items to the injured and displaced victims of war.

Ukpala okpoko gburu, nti chiri ya!

dane15:
I keep asking myself what happened to this NK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mlKqSJeHgRo&app=desktop

This NK had the opportunity to write his name in the history books with the likes of Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela through the use of a focused, refined, calculated and strategic approach.

I am not a Biafran and I really would love Igbos to continue in Nigeria but if they wish to leave, they need to start seeing Biafra as a project and not a task. A project is long term in nature and strategic. They need to start developing LEADERS, a thing which is enormously lacking among the touts and hooligans chanting Biafra everyday.

They say the average Igbo man does not have the patience to think strategically but just wants self gratification and wants things NOW regardless of the cost but I think it is not true. If an Igbo man can start a business from wheel barrow and grow it to a Shopping Mall in ten years, that is strategic thinking.

I believe there are people in the North, South, East and West who are slightly sympathetic to to the cause but the name calling and crude approach is a No, no for them.

On the issue of the UN or US support, US benefits whenever there is civil unrest in a Oil producing country. Production will reduce and Crude Oil price will increase, benefiting the US as they will make more money from their export.
Military Hardware producing factories will employ more people because of increased demand still benefiting the US. It will not be in their interest for a war to stop if it starts, God forbid. All the US will do is to advise Biafra Leader and the Nigerian President to dialogue. Just consider that the war in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria have not really ended.

If you have seen the movie 300, you will understand that Leonidas' military achievements against the Persians was because of his geographical advantage and training. An average Spartan is trained for war almost from birth. When I see those saying that IPOB will defeat the NA in battle I just weep. It can never end well. Ojukwu had the privilege of being in the army and therefore has an head start over NK in case of any war outbreak. Even at that, it ended in a massacre.

Mandela and Gandhi proved that not every noble cause must be achieved by bloodshed. Wisdom will always defeat strength 1 million times.

There is still time for NK to become another Gandhi or Mandela but he has to start by:
1. Calling the criminals who have hijacked the IPOB cause for personal greed to stop their provocative actions.
2. Roll out a strategic plan for Biafra Actualization through doing a proper SWOT Analysis.
3. Since he has the people on his side, any Leader he endorses will likely win any election. He should work towards sweeping all the 2019 political seats from the LG to the National level. (This will kill the excuse of our leaders are sabotaging our efforts).
4. Biafran representatives should continue to push for constitution amendment for both restructuring or secession depending on whichever matures first based on the circumstances at the time.
5. He should continue to dialogue with influencers from the North, West, South and Middle belt while using 2019-2023 to sell the Biafran proposal and prototype to Igbos still on the fence through good governance, innovation, creativity and financial integrity. He should change Biafra from just a map to an ideology.

I believe with the above, the peaceful actualization of Biafran will be a step closer.

#WISDOMISBETTERTHANSTRENGTH

JimD:
Many people saying Ipobs have been non-violent up till now. They have not declared war. The path of secession is a path of war; Ask UK and US, Yugoslavian countries, India and Pakistan, North and South Korea, Czech and Slovakia. Either the country is bought by another country in the case of Alaska, and recently Scotland (still negotiating) or is ready for full-blown war. If you will build a house, you sit down and count the cost. Many of these Ipobs haven't. Howeber, Buhari has been undiplomatic. Makes me wonder if he's really military. Very untactical move.

clarocuzioo:
I was born in aba, I am in aba right now, it is a well known fact that anytime there is tension of this nature in aba, people always seize that opportunity to exhibit their criminal tendencies, in 90's when Ariaria market got burnt, criminal elements seized the opportunity to loot, my Aunty 's shop was burgled, that's always the case anytime we have such situation, even in America, people saw the hurricane Irma as an opportunity to loot and miam, please do not give it a political inclination please let us be logical,

donier:
brother please any Igbo man living in aba who has witnessed the tension in the last 72hours now knows the true motive of ipob.Destruction.death.extortion. It is now clear that Nnamdi kanu is being sponsored by the opposition. I'm an IBO man living in Ana.I don't support Nnamdi KANU.I don't support ipob.I support restructuring

kaymart:
Without mincing words, one can confidently say that the southwest is simply the most peaceful region in the country..... Call them Afonja or whatever. The yorubas are peace loving people worldwide. Lest, I forget, education is indeed a light. When u r literate, u behave with some sort of rare distinction.

I've never been the one that talk on tribal issues but I love the Yorubas. I schooled in the south-south, Edo state to be precise. I have been so fortunate to interact with peace loving individuals. Edo state is the most peaceful state in the South-south region. I passionately love the Binis and generally the Edos as a people. They love themselves too amidst the disparity in cultural heritage.

gbishman:
This is one sensible Igbo guy, there are better ways of getting recognition. I suggest u form a party name it Biafra and fight your cause in the political arena.

kjhova:
A call for secession is a call for war!

If you don't know this, then you are among the 30% ignorant folks the OP was talking about.

Has Quebec seceded from Canada?

Has Catalonia seceded from Spain?

Has Scotland seceded from the UK?

Has California seceded from the USA?

You can agitate and many organizations like MASSOB etc have been agitating for years for Biafra. But IPOB isn't agitating. IPOB is campaigning for hatred and vilification of other Nigerians, canvassing for weapons across the globe, setting up illegal radio channels, setting up secret services and lion squads etc etc. IPOB is a death cult and death is its members only fitting destiny!

PrecisionFx:
they have been having meetings with ipob, they know that an igbo exit without dem spells permanent dolm for them.

hysteriabox:
Nice one bro.
But com to think of it, how many European secessionist use hate speeches to achieve referendum? I never heard a scot say "f*k d queen", not to mention any other region within the UK.
The antecedents within Africa has made peaceful, purpose driven agitation almost impossible. Once a group feels sudelined, they yeild to greedy politicians n d rest is war.
And here, we know that most clamor because they lost their grip on power. So, most incumbent will see such moves as manipulations of d opposition, this den cancels out d option of negotiation.
I began to doubt Nnamdi the moment I saw FFK dining n taking selfies with him. Why didn't anyone warn him not to eat with that man?! FFK is a true definition of a self seeker

foura:
that is what our constitution says secrssion can only come through war just like american constitution and this error was made by ZIK of africa

attackgat:
People like you are the reason Nigeria and Africa can never progress. You see how developed countries do things, instead of emulating them, you do the opposite. Why should secession mean war in Africa? Did Zik and others have to fight a war with Britain before Nigeria got its independence? Why cant you question why Britain can grant Scotland referendum but Africa is still using war where they should use referendum? Why is it that we never see the Army of other countries unless there is war but your Nigerian Army is out extorting money everywhere and commiting human rights abuses? How can you equate properties and investment to freedom? Dont you know that international law protects investments wherever they might be? This cave man reasoning is terrible. If other tribes are not interested in independence, all well and good, let them continue with Nigeria. What is most important for me as an Igbo man is that the Igbo nation becomes independent and manages its self. There is nothing greater than freedom, it is greater than Gold or money, even life.
So keep congratulating Buhari for using brute military force on unarmed defenceless people but know this, Nigeria is on the wrong track heading nowhere

4dor:
Ipob has always insisted on non violence? Are you a liar or you have selective amnesia? A simple Google search will prove you wrong.

TundeHashim:
what makes u "more" igbo than him? Why do your lots think like this, are u trying to tell me all igbos must think alike, must support Biafra? Honestly, one of the greatest things I'm proud of in life is not being an igbo IPOB miscreant! I would have hung myself if I've got the blood or the ideology!

phillips1959:
Operation Python Dance is the legitimate thanksgiving service of a 78yrs old president who recently recovered from a life threatening sickness. One would have expected the president to approach this IPOb uprising with a fatherly disposition by reshuffling his cabinet and getting the south east more involved in his govt.I am sure that many IBos voted for him in the last election.When OBJ was president and singing his infamous I DEY KAMPE he never envisaged that GEJ could sideline him when he becomes president.
I laugh at Buhari and all northerners who support injustice. The ultimate power belongs to God and he will SURELY give this nation attention when he decides and then bushmeat will catch the hunter.No one,not even the national assembly seems to care that the south east has been excluded from Nigeria by Buhari.You cannot hate me and expect me to hate myself.Leave us to go NO.Include us in your so called Nigeria.No.So what do you expect?Ibos are not known to be docile.
I am proudly IBo and even after I am dead the struggle will continue.Surely one day change will happen.Ride on Operation Python Dance.
Remember Israel was oppressed for so many years by Egypt.Today there is still Egypt and there is still Israel.If you compare the two countries,you tell me which one is of better standing today.So it shall be with Biafra and Nigeria,no matter how long it takes.
Wisdom they say comes more with age but this nigeria president seems to have used wickedness to cover any possible wisdom that could come with age to him.
Nice work Mr President.Nice work Buratai.Nice work National assembly.We shall see who will dance the royal dance at the end.

menxer:
Pikin wey say him mama no go sleep, I wonder how him want take sleep.

As for those drawing comparison with agitation in other countries, the question is, why can't we follow their method by taking the fight to the floors of the National Assembly?

obayaya:
I am Igbo too and I don't support Operation Python dance.

We never saw an Operation Tiger hunt in the middle belt when the fulanis ran riot in Kogi and Benue.

So what exactly is the need for Python dance in an area that is a lot more peaceful without any breakdown of law and other apart from peeps exercising their freedom of association.

As for the Biafra struggle, I'm not a fan of Nnamdi but I am sympathetic to his cause. Nigeria as a country is very flawed. This is a country that doing things the right way gets you nowhere.

you are beginning to see all the restructure drama which are Knee jerk reactions to Nnamdi and IPOB. Prior to Nnamdi, the elites paid lip service to restructuring. And this macabre dance they are doing at the moment is an act of deception to calm Nnamdi and IPOB down. The moment that happens, they will discard the restructure buzz like it never happened.

I may not be in 100 percent support of Nnamdi's MO but his MO is the only language Nigeria Understands

kolaaderin:
This is Africa, it has always been bloody in Africa and Biafra will not be an exception. The imperialist would always use this medium to boost their own economy by selling weapons of mass destruction which in turn kills both your human capital and rendering you economically bankrupt. Learn and be wise from history, please be warned .

realhumanity:
No one is holding us if we want to get these things in a democratic setting. He wanted to tap into the route of tension creation so that the UN will come in and settle the case but the truth is that, the whites do not care about a geographic area called southeast.

I believe you are very educated, try and weigh options because the way this thing is going, I do not think it will end in our favour.

In August 1990, without any prospect for intervention by the United States or the United Nations, ECOMOG arrived in Monrovia to separate the warring factions and to stop the bloodshed.

The West African countries justified their intervention on the grounds that it was no longer an internal conflict since thousands of their own nationals were trapped in Liberia, and tens of thousands of refugees had fled to neighboring countries. The ECOMOG mandate was to impose a cease-fire, help form an interim government and hold elections within 12 months. Unfortunately, with NPFL attacks continuing, there was no peace to keep, and ECOMOG was thrust into combat to push the NPFL out of Monrovia.

There has been much speculation about the ulterior motives of the participating states for intervening in Liberia. Some have accused Nigeria of attempting to support the Doe government, since Doe and Nigeria's President Babangida were allies; others contend that Nigeria was striving to act like the regional superpower that it aspires to be. Others believe that the motivation was a genuine fear of regional destabilization, since dissidents from the Gambia, Ghana and Sierra Leone, most of whom were trained together with the NPFL in Libya, were known to be working with the NPFL.

Still others contend that the intervention was due to the NPFL's treatment of the West African nationals living in Liberia; thousands of Nigerians, Guineans and Ghanaians were effectively held hostage in Monrovia, and hundreds were later killed. Another theory is that the enormous flow of refugees into the neighboring countries compelled them to act.

In any event, none of the participating countries was known for its respect for human rights and democratic principles. As The Washington Post commented in August 1990 when the decision to form ECOMOG was announced, the participating states all had one thing in common: "All are ruled with a strong arm by military or civilian dictators and have little experience with democracy."

Regardless of its motivations, ECOMOG accomplished certain concrete objectives between August and November: it established a semblance of order and peace in the battered city, which allowed international humanitarian groups to return to Liberia; it confined to their barracks the AFL and another rebel group, the Independent National Patriotic Front of Liberia (INPFL), led by Prince Johnson;15 it enabled the Interim Government of National Unity (IGNU), headed by Amos Sawyer, to be installed; and it obtained a cease-fire.

One would be hard-pressed to visit Monrovia without hearing, time and again, "Thank God for ECOMOG." The sentiments of many Monrovia residents were summarized by a Liberian medical worker who said: "ECOMOG was our savior; it was a salvation. ECOMOG saved the population of Monrovia. They avoided fighting, but were pushed into a corner. We feel sorry for them; they have no cause to die here for this stupid, senseless war. https://www.hrw.org/reports/1993/liberia/#2

Udmaster:
Amadioha kpiariekwa gi ishi,
kwa nnamdi kanu unu ka okpachara anya,
iberibe ya ejuwale iko

Udmaster:
Thank you buhari for bringing the military for operation python dance in south east,
lets put an end to this stupidity by ipob led by that UNN dropout called Nnamdi Kanu,
a restructured Nigeria is the best for Igbos,

this senseless agitation for Biafra will attract war and Igbos have no support to face such a thing now,
even the Niger deltans will deny us and start singing ONE NIGERIA when the war start,
they are not in support of any Biafra, stop hoping in False sense of solidarity!
ipob is sponsored by opposition party to disrupt buhari administration,
Igbos wake up! War is looming

Why will Igbos who are found in every corner of the nation choose breaking away to restructuring?
Now there are crisis here and there, if the north retaliate, do you know how many Igbos that will be killed ?
Why cant Ipob reason with their brain?

Thank you Buhari for the operation python dance,
please the court should hurry up and give an arrest order on kanu so that the evil opposition agent Kanu will be arrested?

What about our investments all over nigeria, it will be seized all over,and Igbos will start from scratch to built again,
why making things difficult for ourselves?
seccesion is war because this is Africa,
and who are you secceeding with?

Remember the ijaws,ogonis,urhobos,itsekiris,ibibios,efiks etc have warned you guys to count them out of biafra map,
go and start war and watch them dancing ONE NIGERIA
Abum nwa afo Igbo,
a restructure Nigeria, o ga akara anyi nm,ka ria ndufu kanu ne edufu nyi
ndewo nu

GrandGarcon:
Who made you an IGBO man? No you are an Afonja, ever since the cowardly boy scouts have been on rampage you afonjas have been gloating and jubilating. Get out bloody Afonja.

graphiti:
Pls dont disturb itself.
The only word dt cones to my mind when I think about ipobians is ''delusional".
They've forgotten "operation lafiya dole, ~crocodile smile etc. That character of peaceful coexistence with ones neighbours is missing in their DNA. Its always I Before Others .
Their matter don't taya parzin.

reality1010:
I v come again to put u through.Some of u Nairaland ppl learn to destroy urselves.U r quick to copy and paste links from internet thinking everyone is daft to eat up those thrash that r not peer reveiwed.Ur problem is that u can not do better logical analysis and put ur arguement in the context of ur discussion. U said UN ICJ ruling on Bakassi is a binding case to why Nigeria must cede Bakassi without refering to the issue of referendum and plebiscite which is not in the constitution.Do u know that countries reject ICJ ruling when it is not in conformity with their political system?Even ICJ knows that one of its major shortcomings is that its rulings must be considered in a political context.Check US vs Nicargua and others.Alot of us have questioned the rationale behind Nigeria ceding of bakassi without a referendum or plebiscite which is very very bad.As i educate u experts wie on international studies is not happy with it.
Another case from u is on the Sudanese.You said they fought war for yrs and then brokered agreement with a referendum and the UN came in to conduct it.Pls is it how it happened?So u expect Biafrans to fight war for so many years and then Nigeria and Biafra will broker peace for referendum?As at the 2005 u mentioned, how come there was no referendum in the Sudanese constitution all the years they v been fighting from 1959?Why did it take 46years to insert it just few months to independence?What is it that persuaded Sudanese govt to do so even at a short time?Let me check u up,tell me,is it d decision of the President, or the country as a whole or pressure from outside that was instrumental to the cease fire and referendum in the Sudan/South Sudan case?Why would Sudanese govt accept it and include it?What really made d Sudanes govt to v a rethink for such inclusion?How come it was quickly arranged into South Sudan's law after they were not even a country? Sorry im taking u into international logic.So u can decieve ppl on Nairaland that Sudan and South Sudan agreed on their own for cease fire and inclusion of referendum?What about the roles of international communities and the UN in forcing them to peace and the threat on Bashir president of Sudan?Pls when u read u do proper analysis and not swallowing every word.
You v forgotten ur position of arguement so soon,how come?All i want u to learn is at what time referendum was considered for them?What were the factors surrendering it?Al Bashir on his own would not v allowed referendum up to this time im key boarding u.So how come he accepted?Let me give u the answer:pressure from outside.Same pressure on Nigeria to revert to civilian rule in 1999.Same pressure for the Apartheid govt to dismantle apartheid and release Mandela.All these pressures come with civil disobedience, actions and reactions.