Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 1:57pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
Ritchiee: I have severally signed the petition.... So have I! I didn't just sign it...I stamped it! With my seal ~ Laudate dominum omnes gentes...
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Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 1:54pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
oluwaahmed: Most of u here causin d man, do not even hav half d balls he had 2 fight a country against all odds and drag dem into a war dt lasted for 3yrs. Y'all need 2 go and thank awolowo because had not d blockade been imposed biafra wld hav won d war. Google casualties and see dt Nigeria sufferd almost twice d military casualties dan biafra(if am nt mistaken100,000 of ngr army fell, while 50,000 of biafra soldiers fell) Infact if biafra had d toltal support of sme European countries, it wld hav bn a free state by now. Do u knw yorubas fought alongside ojukwu? Let's stop insultin a true hero & read our unadulterated history. Ask ur father's 2 tell u. Wit d hate bn generated on d igbos, I thank God ojukwu went on assylum. D tribe wld hav bn reduced 2 d dust had he bn captured & killed by d fulani like ghadaffi. D saddest tin abt d whole war is dat we never learnt our lesson up till now. We actually nid 2 thank dis man because only brave men hav d guts 2 challenge d status quo & shw us dt progom & genocide against a race because u are unhappy abt political events can cause stress 2 everybody. D man was a legend take it or leave it. Most of us here on dis. Forum cannot even stand up 2 a policeman who obtains u & infringes upon ur rights wit impunity. D man was a freedom fighter even tho he wasn't perfect. 4 d Yorubas here insultin him, ow many presidents hav u produced in d history of Nigeria? Just 1 olusegun obasanjo. D sametin wit d igbos(aguiyi ironsi). U fail 2 realise dt d igbos r nt ur problems. Yoruba wanabee....impostor. |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 1:51pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: They've banned us several times in their attempt to kill this thread.The next step is to move the thread to the Culture section.nawa I do not understand why this thread is being moved to the Culture section. Why??!This is a thread that celebrates something positive, unlike a lot of threads where ethnic bashing and rivalry dominate the posts. It should be on the FP. I do not want to accuse the mods of being impartial, but like someone said on another thread recently: Awon mods ti gba ib'ode.  cc: Seun |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 1:40pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
NRIPRIEST: A lot of us have dated Yoruba women in our early twenties but it's not our ideal marriage partner. Most Igbo guys who grew up in Lagos will say the same but a Yoruba guy won't mind to wife Igbo chic in a heartbeat which is good because we have more women than men.
Our dissolve to stay with our women doesn't mean we are not open minded but we prefer our women because they are beautiful,which Yoruba guys can attest to. Also our marriages survives because of the the kind of women we breed in Igbo land. Okay, let me restrain myself from responding to you for 2 reasons:  1). I do not want to derail this thread. 2). I have a lot of respect for the folks on this board. So I will take my leave. But if you make the mistake of posting this on a totally different thread, I will not spare you. So continue your 'dissolve to stay with your women'.  |
Politics › Re: NNPC Discontinues OPA, Adopts Direct Trading Of Nigeria’s Oil by laudate: 1:33pm On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 2:39pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
BALLOSKI: I think this statement below has addressed your fear. BALLOSKI: She disclosed that companies that stand a better chance of winning the contracts are those who have refineries, affiliations to refineries or access to refineries. She stated that the NNPC, through this arrangement, plans to eliminate third party, adding that the companies would be expected to show agreements that have been signed with refineries. Alright, lets us start with this criteria. Refining companies who bid are likely to get a contract for off-shore processing of crude from NNPC, right? No problem with that. The only thing is that refining companies are spoilt for choice. They can get crude from pretty much every country they want, so they do not have problems in this area. Some refineries have been set up to process heavy crude, so Nigeria's light Bonny crude will not appeal to them.  Second, are those firms that are 'affiliates of refineries'. Is NNPC talking about subsidiaries of refineries, or members of a group/holding company who also have a refinery as part of their assets? You would find groups like ExxonMobil in this category. ExxonMobil Torrance Refinery in the US processes an average of 155,000 barrels of crude oil per day and produces 1.8 billion gallons of gasoline per year. ExxonMobil's Joliet Refinery handles 250,000 barrels of crude per day and produces approximately 9 million gallons of gasoline and diesel fuel every day. The oil firm also has the Altona Refinery in Australia which produces up to 13 million litres of refined products per day - enough to fill more than 300,000 cars. In short, Mobil has 37 refineries in 21 different countries worldwide. Total also falls into this category. It has refineries in South Africa, France, Belgium etc. In other countries, it holds stakes in the ownership of existing refineries (e.g. with Saudi Arabia's Aramco in the Gulf region). Shell also has major refining capacity in many parts of the world. So if Nigeria decides to sell its crude directly to such major oil firms, there should be no issues.  But the third bit is the one that gives room for concern (i.e. access to refineries). If NNPC insists on using this criteria, it can never eliminate 3rd parties. Why? These 3rd parties such as our local oil traders, know that all it takes to sign an agreement with an oil refinery is just a bit of cash, and some negotiations of terms and conditions.  In Ivory Coast, there is a small 68,000 barrels/per day refinery located in Abidjan. Do you know how many local Nigerian oil traders have signed up with them to buy fuel from their tanks? Once these local traders brandish such papers to NNPC, then they would get signed on to lift crude. What is the guarantee that such crude would eventually end up in Abidjan refinery?? A lot of fuel as well as diesel sold in Lagos, actually comes from this refinery which is just about 48 hours away by sea. And many of our local traders just store the diesel on board vessels outside the bar off the coast of the city, and bring it in whenever they need supplies. In the process a lot of sharp practices went on, under the fuel subsidy payment regime under GEJ/NOI/Diezani. How will NNPC curb this?? It needs to say so clearly. That 3rd criteria of access to refineries should either be scrapped, or replaced with a proviso that they should show evidence of building modular refineries in-country, within a specific or limited period of time. And they should ensure that this proviso is strictly enforced. |
Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 12:52pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
kingzizzy: Are this deaf? Ojukwu left at the end of the war, when things were hopeless. The very next day Ojukwu left, a ceasefire was declared. So what would have been the point of Ojukwu staying back to be killed over a war that was over? So if it was you that was leading a war and the war is ending tomorrow, you will stay back and get killed for nothing? Use your brains Guy, so he could send other folks to be killed, but he himself was afraid of being killed??  Did you ever read any of Ojukwu's speeches during the civil war?? |
Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 12:45pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
kingzizzy: Go back and ask the people who voted then if the elections were free and fair. If it was not free and fair, what did his supporters do to redress the issue?? Did Ojukwu go to court to contest the election results?? What happened next??  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:32pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
Funke Opeke - the hottest woman in Nigerian telecoms industry. She is an Ile-Oluji chic.  |
Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 12:19pm On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 12:44pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
simplycarro: Those that rigged him out in PDP are Hausa or Yoruba? Are they not fellow Ibos? Are you saying they have more clout? You keep contradicting yourself. No mind am. The same Ojukwu contested for a senatorial seat in his district in the 80s and lost massively to an unknown Igbo man. The same Ojukwu accepted to serve on the board of the lat Chief Obafemi Awolowo's foundation...yet, his supporters keep vilifying Awo. Yeye dey smell!  OBAFEMI AWOLOWO FOUNDATION 28 LANRE AWOLOKUN ROAD GBAGADA PHASE II LAGOS
December 2, 2011
PRESS STATEMENT ON THE PASSING OF CHIEF ODUMEGWU OJUKWU
The Ọbafẹmi Awolọwọ Foundation mourns the passing away of a leading Nigerian political figure, a fine officer and gentleman and one of our trustees, Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu. Chief Ojukwu was invited to serve on the inaugural Board of Trustees of the Foundation almost 20 years ago. His choice was based on his renowned respect and admiration for Chief Ọbafẹmi Awolọwọ, whom he famously described as ‘the best president Nigeria never had’. Chief Ojukwu accepted our invitation to serve under the chairmanship of General Yakubu Gowon without any hesitation whatsoever, and by so doing, demonstrated his readiness to join hands with us to sustain and promote a worthy legacy and, perhaps more importantly, his resolve to lead by example in the national effort to put the past behind us. We will always treasure his association with the Foundation. We condole his widow, Chief Mrs. Bianca Ojukwu, his entire family, and the nation at large on the sad loss of this great Nigerian. May his soul rest in perfect peace. For: Ọbafẹmi Awolọwọ Foundation Dr Ọlatokunbọ Awolọwọ Dosumu. Executive Director https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/usaafricadialogue/OLj3hjVyX3o |
Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 12:14pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
kingzizzy: And why do you think PDP has always won almost every election in the SE, because they are only one who field popular candidates. I was on the ground in the east the two times Ojukwu vyed for elections. I saw people massively vote for Ojukwu like there was no tomorrow. I aLao saw PDP rig him out. Yet when Ojukwu contested for senatorial elections in the 80s, he lost massively to a relatively unknown Igbo man. |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:04pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
9jacrip: High rate of unemployment amonst youth in the SWest, in the urban areas or hinterlands? The last I checked, the hinterland youths are mostly employed as farmers, commercial herbalists, black smiths to mention a few. Maybe not economically 'in there' but they're employed.
You need to keep in mind each state, asides from its urban centres has a lot of rural areas where these things thrive so I'm not sure how to equate it with what proportion of the SWest they constitute. At least for Osun alone, I'm aware virtually every town, even Osogbo its capital has these things thriving.
I do not know where you find those weavers - a friend still had me getting prices of Aso-Oke for his wedding and in Ibadan and Ife, the weavers were the locals. If the mud blocks are used in Ife, believe it spread across the entire Osun state and other hinterland Yoruba towns because it is cheap and as you said usually a communal effort to build or re-build.
Maybe all of the above are not commercialized, they are prevalent and not in anyway extinct as you've made it seem.
I wonder why you just want to tag something as 'dying' or 'extinct' because they're not readily available within your reach? Ewi not largly being on air (some Yoruba radio stations allot airtime for programmes that feature Ewi) does not mean it is dying. As I said previously, if you visit compounds of families whose generational craft is Ewi, you'd be shocked to find the youngest male in the house reciting serious Ewi chants.
Ewi like drumming (each family has what drum it has mastered) is not like some art every Yoruba knows or learns, it is mostly treated like a family business. Sir, I still disagree with you because I feel you have missed most of the points I have made. You keep using Osun State as a yardstick for judging the current status of events in several other parts of Yorubaland. Do have a nice day.  |
Politics › Re: Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-ojukwu's 82nd Posthumous Birthday Is Today! by laudate: 11:53am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn: Happy posthumous birthday.
Meanwhile, the Biafra you fought for and was defeated and which you ran away has been revived by one cone-head, albino burukutu sipping bastttard, who is currently languishing in DSS detention facility right now.
The people you left behind are Cowards and empty chest beaters. They only rant on social media and pages of newspapers. His (Kanu) gullible followers have inherent animosity towards any group who didn't support their ideology.
They tend to be tyrannical and parasitical. Happy Birthday to Eze Gburu-Gburu Nd'Igbo Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu! most people do not realise that Ojukwu served on the board of the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo's foundation. |
Politics › Re: NNPC Discontinues OPA, Adopts Direct Trading Of Nigeria’s Oil by laudate: 11:48am On Nov 04, 2015 |
BALLOSKI: I think this statement below has addressed your fear. Ok, thanks. I am in the middle of something. But I will be back to address this. |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:38am On Nov 04, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Lol.
Laudate is a mysterious poster - I'm still trying to figure the person out.
But he/she does post a lot of interesting things. And I believe the person can post in Igbo as well. That's the Laudate Dominion right there. 
As for me, I'm not against the use of Yoruba on this board...at the end of the day, it's part of celebrating Yoruba culture/heritage. Respect, bro'!  You also post a lot of interesting facts. I have learnt a lot from your posts on other threads....  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:24am On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 12:29pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
9jacrip: Is Osogbo in the hinterlands? If yes, there's wood work/sculpture, agbede (black smith), cloth making (Dying and Aso Oke), ewi etc.
Is Ife in the hinterlands? If yes, there's aso oke, agbede, sculpture, ewi etc
Is Ikire in the hinterlands? If yes, these same things are present.
Not to mention other places in Osun, Oyo, Osun and Ogun that I've been to apart from those 3 places I go to almost every weekend.
If you so desire Ewi, you'd have to source for the CD, they are pretty much available around and they do not have to necessarily make the charts.
Where I'm from, Ife/most part of Osun, forget the cement plasters you see. Most houses are built using compressed mud blocks and then plastered with cement.
Some of us know these things are not extinct or scarce. What we see depends on the world we operate in. Well, this is a subject on which we would probably not agree till kingdom come, so I respectfully beg to take my leave. But before I do so, please note that what gave rise to the entire discourse was the high rate of unemployment among youth in the south-West, and what could be done to get them gainfully employed.  If you say that these crafts are thriving in Ife, Osogbo etc, my question would still be that if you take the entire South-western region as a whole, in what proportion of the south-west do all these crafts still thrive, as at today??  Would the areas you mentioned constitute 50% to 70% of Yoruba land?? I think not. Due to the fact that there are new and interesting designs of Aso-oke being churned out these days as more educated people come up with their own designs, I have found that many of the weavers these days are Ghanaians, Togolese (Ajase) and even Senegalese folk who have migrated into Nigeria to reside in the hinterlands, and have decided to try their hands at this trade.  Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying that all Yoruba weavers have abdicated from the trade. There are just more West Africans coming into the picture. As for compressed earth blocks being used to construct houses these days, I beg to disagree. Maybe those old houses that were constructed several years back, were done in this way. But since the beginning of this decade, I don't think a lot of people have tapped into this area, for building construction. The practice may be prevalent in Ife today, but I doubt if the same thing can be said of Akure, Ile-Oluji, Ilaro, Ikare-Akoko, Erin-Ijesha, Ado-Ekiti, Owo, Badagry, Ijede, Ikorodu, Epe etc. And this is an area that needs to be seriously explored and propagated on a regional basis, so that it gains more popularity. It is labour-intensive, so it would reduce unemployment to a certain degree, and it is also cheaper than cement, so it would be commercially effective.  Building of houses in the past using stabilised earth blocks and mud, was done by age-groups over a period of weeks. From what I heard, this method of communal labour helped residents to construct their houses, without them having to spend tons of money. All they had to do, was make the materials available and also ensure there was plenty of food for the builders!!  I am not sure if this same communal efforts can be revived today, but if the whole building method can be modernised and commercialised to engage the unemployed youth who don't have a source of livelihood in various towns and cities, it would be a good thing. Personally, I would like to see entire estates built with this compressed earth blocks right within the South-West region. As for Ewi, the fact that it is not being given prominent airtime, or promoted in a popular manner or earning tons of money for its proponents, shows that it is not growing. It is gradually dying out. How many young Yoruba folks in Lagos, Ibadan or Akure can recite a whole Ewi chant, without breaking a sweat? How many of them have heard of Olanrewaju Adepoju? How many Ewi pieces have been sampled by our growing pop musicians? Would you place its popularity on the same level as hip-hop or highlife?  Personally, I love 'Ewi. But I fear for its future in Nigeria, as other forms of music continue to rule our airwaves and the indifference of our youth to this genre, stifles its growth. At the risk of sounding repetitive, anything that does not grow, dies...  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:47am On Nov 04, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:
Owe l'esin oro, oro l'esin owe, t'oro ba sonu owe l'afi nwa. 
This is a quiz for yoruba speaking people and those who understand the nigbati language. The task is to start or begin a yoruba proverb and allow others to complete the sentence. As you complete try if you can to start a proverb for others to complete.
Agba ki nwa loja,________________ ...ki ori omo titun wo. Sorry, I can't find the accent marks, today. |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:25am On Nov 04, 2015 |
9jacrip: Apparently, laudate is not Yoruba.
Does anyone know what ethnic background she is from? Why do you want to know?? And why are you calling me a she? |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:24am On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 10:53am On Nov 04, 2015 |
9jacrip: What Laudate and others perceive to be dying are actually very much alive.
The wood crafts, cloth dying, cloth weaving, traditional hairstyle weaving to mention a few are very much alive but are restricted to the hinterlands. Although they appear to have pretty much gone into extinction, the reality is that Yoruba families are structured in a way that each family is specialized in something and has it restricted to them - kingship, chieftaincy, religion, sculpture, dance, ewi/poetry, cloth weaving, hunting etc. And as a result, as long as these families and their compounds exist, these 'certain things' will continue to exist. Guy, when was the last time you went into the hinterlands?? If those crafts were not dying, they should have been growing and quite visible in every local government, both in the cities and the villages. Only traditional hair-dressing seems to have thrived irrespective of location, but that was NOT even mentioned in our discourse.  Weave-on even appears to be a preferred medium of hair expression among the ladies, these days. Take Ewi for example. When was the last time an Ewi piece got into the Top Ten Charts in the South-western part of Nigeria?? Let us look at Aso-oke. In how many towns and villages does this art thrive, all over the South-West? This is something that whole communities and villages should be engaged in, and not just a few families.  And if you compare the usage of local compressed earth mud blocks for building houses today, with the number of houses being built using cement, you would realise that this art of using traditional earth blocks for building houses is fast going into extinction.  The same thing goes for traditional blacksmithing, copperworks etc. |
Politics › Re: NNPC Discontinues OPA, Adopts Direct Trading Of Nigeria’s Oil by laudate: 10:10am On Nov 04, 2015 |
Keneking: Lalasticlala.......great move
- This is a shock to those 44 companies.
- Nigerians would enjoy low and fluctuating costs of PMS, DPK and AGO moving forward.
- We should expect PMS prices to be as low as N40-N45/litre.
- Nigeria would be free from subsidy payments and we can channel the funds for other developmental purposes.
- Chai, more middlemen in oil business to lose their jobs.
- Rich men would soon understand the impact of this decision by December and January.
- Stealing and corruption in that sector would reduce by more than 70%.
- Ibe Kachikwu would be missed as the key that reformed NNPC.
- God Bless PMB I tried so hard to stay away from this section, but my curiosity got the better of me. Why does NNPC like talking from both sides of its mouth?? In NNPC Corporate department, they have always had a Crude Marketing Dept, headed by a Group General Manager (GGM). Who were they selling Nigeria's crude to??  In PPMC, which is a subsidiary of NNPC, they have always had a Commercial Sales Dept which handled importation and distribution of refined products. Who were they importing from??  The truth is that it would be almost impossible for NNPC to sell its crude directly to end users without having to go through some of these oil traders, from time to time. A few foreign countries even have standing agreements with some foreign mega oil traders like Vitol, Oryx, Trafigura etc and would direct you to liaise with them, if you want to sell to their country. Apart from this, issues like credit terms, bureaucracy etc., would make it difficult to conclude spot transactions concerning oil sales, without involving oil traders who have liquid cash and logistic arrangements through which they can easily make payment for oil products, and cut through irrelevant red tape.  Secondly, NNPC went on air to make this announcement and showcase all the different bids it had received, along with the bidders. 80% of those who bidded for NNPC's crude as well as the importation of refined products were local oil traders, and not even end users like foreign refineries or energy ministries of different countries. What does that tell you?  They still have a long way to go. The important thing is to use oil traders or firms that are established and well structured, and stop all these fly-by-night allocations (to import fuel and sell crude) to cronies and friends that do not even have a petrol station, talk less of owning an oil depot. NNPC needs to have a clear direction on what it intends to do, going forward. They should stop playing to the gallery. Will it be selling directly to foreign refineries or foreign state govt? Will it focus on long term contracts exclusively, or would it have a mix of long and short-term contracts?? What would be the criteria for buying and selling Nigeria's oil, or importing fuel into the country?? All these need to be spelt out clearly. And until I see this...sorry, I will not be moved by their grandstanding. Finally, as long as your country still keeps devaluing its Naira, or as long as forex fluctuations of the Naira to the dollar remains high...then sorry, petrol will never fall to =N=40 per litre, except if local refining capacity can be increased to 80% - 90%.  |
Politics › Re: Oil Producing states In Nigeria - The Facts and Figures by laudate: 9:37am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IlekeGD: is this the only source? sure there should be more from someone [like you] making claims.  Ileke, if you read the article to the end, you would actually see that the boundaries between old Bendel state and Ondo State were re-drawn and Ondo lost some oil wells to old Bendel state. Mr. Omoigui was one of the Surveyors/cartographers at the Federal Ministry of Lands & Survey that did the charting, but he was accused of bias because he was a Bini man. The issue was reported at the highest levels, with a suggestion being made that since the oil wells were located near the boundary, Ondo and old Bendel State should share the royalties 50-50. This was declined. At the end of the day, Omoigui's boss had to re-chart the entire area and the oil wells still remained ceded to old Bendel. So Ondo State actually lost those 5 wells to old Bendel State!! And it has remained so till date. Moreover, because parts of Bendel had gone to Ondo, there were five oil wells very close to the boundary. Initially, the Ondo people wanted the royalty to be shared 50-50 because they were very close to the boundary between both states.
In 1981, a Yoruba man, who was Director of Survey, wrote to the Ministry of Finance on the issue and, after charting, it was found that the oil wells were in Bendel State. He wrote to the Ministry of Finance that the Yoruba would not take this.
He went to Lagos, met with the Director of Survey and reported that a Bini man was behind the charting. Then my Director said no, he charted it. In 1984, Bamidele Otiko became the military governor of Ondo State and came to Lagos to meet my Director. At the meeting, my Director told Otiko he was responsible for the charting.
When Chief Olu – Falae became the Secretary to the Federal Government, he directed me to write a letter that pending the resolution of the Ondo – Bendel boundary adjustment issue, they should be sharing the royalty 50 – 50. I declined to write the letter.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/omoigui-at-80-i-made-them-pay-for-claiming-i-removed-oil-wells-from-ondo-to-bendel/ |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 9:19am On Nov 04, 2015 |
quimicababes: some more @laudate Thank you so very much for this! |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 9:08am On Nov 04, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: Dont worry about shymmex, he art restricteth to speaketh Queen's grammar till Ijebu hath becometh a State in Nigeria. Ive seen Laudate in action with Ibos, he already know how to curse in Yoruba. So these fellas are ok. Hahahaha! LWKMD!  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:59am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IlekeGD: 6. Be ready to translate for English-speaking Yorubas i.e shym3x and Laudate Am an English-speaking guest of the Yoruba people!  Don't worry, I have started learning the language with all seriousness! |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:56am On Nov 04, 2015 |
quimicababes: You can order at ethnikasooke@gmail.com Thanks!! |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:56am On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 11:44am On Nov 04, 2015 |
quimicababes: If other Yorubas don't want to hold onto their culture...can you force them ? If they lose it..whose fault is it? The reality is only Yorubas can value their culture and if they chose to throw away certain aspects...that's their call.Even though Isese folks are a minority...the reality is the culture will not die.A Yoruba christian I am friends with on fb...she cried when she saw a video of latino diasporans singing yoruba songs,dressed in yoruba wear..apparently it was some ceremony for a baby.If Yorubas don't appreciate their culture...I can say most certainly outsiders will. I see your point... but one question we need to ask is, why are they not appreciative of their own culture??  Have they lost touch with it? Or were they never schooled in it?? Some have become so Westernised that they feel anything from their homeland, should be jettisoned. A few others have simply not been taught about the beauty of their culture.  I have a family friend whose kids school abroad. But she ensures that every summer, instead of going to other countries in Europe on holiday, she brings those kids straight back home to Nigeria and they spend weeks in her village in Iseyin and at her husband's place, in Offa. They only come back into Lagos, when it is time to leave the country, and go back abroad to resume school!  Now, those kids have been properly schooled in their culture. They speak the language, know all the proverbs, greetings etc. In fact, for the eldest child, his favourite musical genre is Fuji!  Everyone needs to learn and re-learn all the finer bits of their culture, and in turn teach them to their kids. I have always wondered at how Yoruba language and traditions were able to thrive in the diaspora right from the slave trade era. If they could hang on to it then, what is stopping this present generation from doing so, now?? |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:43am On Nov 04, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: Laudate i love you.If you be man no homo.If you be woman and you are not married,i'm giving you a kiss from my keyboard.If you're married,tell oga say make e no vex 
And lastly i welcome the inductees Egbon, I hail you sir. Iba (respect)! Keep up the good work! |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:41am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IlekeGD: Chaiiiiii!!!
How manage?  Babe, na lo-oo-ong story!  Hehehe..... |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:32am On Nov 04, 2015 |
quimicababes: @laudate...some of Tunde Owolabi work.Heh I find if we want to wear Toms...we can more than patronize the guy lol Wow!! Wow!! Does he have any sales outlets in Lagos?? His designs are great! |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:30am On Nov 04, 2015*. Modified: 9:05am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IlekeGD: Awwww, I'm listening to all the videos right now.
Oriki is so deep ...... they use Yoruba ila amin to create beatiful lyrics (se ki n ki (greet) yin ni abi se ki n ki (oriki) yin).
We need to bring back these culture... 
You said your grandfather (may his soul RIP) was not yoruba.....where's he from? |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:20am On Nov 04, 2015 |
quimicababes: I think when we say certain things are dying amongst Yorubas we should be clear to differentiate amongst which groups of Yorubas.Isese Yorubas are fighting to hold onto Yoruba culture in its entirety and for that group....I don't think it will die off...for the others...well only time go tell. Yes, Isese may be trying to hold on to its culture, but what about the other villages, towns and sub-groups in the entire South-West region?? Are they doing the same thing? Look at the Indians. No matter how dispersed they may be, many of them still hold on to the ethos of their culture. Some good things should NOT just be allowed to die..  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:09am On Nov 04, 2015 |
superstar1: Yeah it is a very sacred name, but for such level of jazz to work, they will need your first name and surname too. No kidding!!  |
Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:05am On Nov 04, 2015 |
IlekeGD: Unfortunately, it's dying. Even our talking drums professionals are dwindling. This is what Africa gets when it relegates its culture for whiteman's. We lose some of our essence. Oooh!! Thank you so much for this!!  It brought back such great memories of my childhood. I was never able to understand the words, but I would join my late maternal grand father on the verandah, as he nodded his head to different Ewi minstrels every Saturday morning! He was not even Yoruba, but he had a deep appreciation for the culture (he spoke it like a native), and listening to Ewi, while sipping chilled palm wine was his own way of chilling out. We would both nod in tandem with the drum beats and shekere, and he would sometimes pause to explain a few words of the songs to me! I am trying so hard not to cry....  |