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pazienza:
You don't want to be quoted, it's simple, stop commenting. Onye ara Ogbete! *grins

Oḳ'a ēkwukwu. No, you are the one with madness in his brain! You cannot dictate to me when, where or how I will make my comments. So stay out of my sight!

pazienza:
Stay off Biafra and Igbo related threads and I stay off your mention, keep pokenosing into Igbo and Biafra related affairs and you stay in my line of sight, with it's attendant consequences, it's that simple.

Ife alū?! Who da heck are you to tell me to stay off a particular thread or a specific section??

Are you alright upstairs?? If you do not want me to comment, take your silly threads to BNW. Simple. Last time I checked, NL was not even owned by an Igbo man.

I will comment on biafra, Igbo, Igala, Idoma and any other topic that takes my fancy. Achòḷù ̣m̀ kà ị ghọdo ife m nà-èkwu òf̣ ụma.

Nobody made you the policeman of any thread on NL. Achòḷù ̣m̀ kà ị ghọta okwu m. You have absolutely no right to dictate to me, or censor what I post or where I post it, as long as I do not break any NL rules. Get that into your thick skull.

Now get your attention seeking self out of my sight.

pazienza:
You are the one precisely taking a pill for another's ailment.

The decision to accept or reject the Biafran offer lie in the hands of Idomas and Igalas.

You are neither from both groups, and so has no take in it. You should mind your business and allow those involved speak.

Neither are you Igala, Idoma or Tiv. So kindly mind your own business too. I have placed you on the 'ignore' button, but you are so determined to intrude into my consciousness, because you are starved of attention,. Kindly get lost.

Donarozzi:
I stand by my statement: "The Igala area of Kogi state and the entire Benue state (Idoma and Tiv) are geographically located in Eastern Nigeria."

Let me educate you in a very easy way. First and foremost, there is a difference between "geographical location" and "geopolitical division". When it comes to pure geography, the Igala area of Kogi state and the entire Benue state are "geographically" located in Eastern Nigeria (that, South-Eastern part of Nigeria). But, when it comes to geopolitical division, then the aforementioned areas are "geopolitically" grouped as part of Northern Nigeria.

Now, you can understand the plain explanation. The geopolitical division of Nigeria was earlier designed by the British colonial masters, and subsequent Nigerian rulers adopted that design. And while the Eastern and Western regions of Nigeria have witnessed boundary modifications over the decades, the Northern region as defined by the British has remained unmodified. Today, the Igala, Idoma and Tiv can ask the Nigerian government to group them as part of Eastern Nigeria based on their geographical location and also based on the fact that they culturally and linguistically have more in common with the East than with the North.

Guy, you are the one that needs an education. Several Igala, Idoma and Tiv people have said it repeatedly on NL that their zone is located in the North-Central part of this country. The map also shows this clearly. So like I said earlier, you failed basic geography in school.

They have also always stated that they prefer to be on their own. So kindly restrict your Biafran territory to the area occupied by your own SS Igbo and SE Igbo folks. Don't forget that the Tiv, Igala and Idoma constituted a large proportion of the Nigerian army that defeated the South-East, during the civil war.

So kindly pocket your dreams of territorial expansion, biko nu. And re-draw that strange map of yours'. They were not part of the old Biafra. And will not be a part of the new one you are so determined to create.

pazienza:
Not that I want them in my Biafra, but since when have you become the spokesperson for the Igala and Idoma people?
Better go and park well.

Kindly let the Igala and Idoma people ask me that question, so that I can give them an appropriate answer. Why are you taking panadol for their headache? Abeg, swerve.

italo:
I'm sorry. Anyone can claim to be classmates of Oba Akenzua's kids.

That is no proof anything.

What proof do you need? I am not making any claims, but listing facts.

It really doesn't matter to me one way or another, if you believe me or not. I know the truth. And so does he, as well as every other classmate that attended the same school. Unfortunately, he and I lost touch a long time ago, so I cannot divulge any further personal information online without his approval.

LastProphet:
if they are my brothers I wont mention them here point of correction, they are good neighbors if it helps you. Late Joe Odoma was a respected friend. Please grow up, come out of your nut, we igalas keep presenting the worst among us for public offices and its time we eat humble pie

There are several highly respected Igala and non-Igala people that can transform the state, and do far better than what Audu or Wada has done.

Chai! See beta trains for South Africa!! Why cant we replicate this in Naija??

pazienza:
Nwannaa, laudate is no Brother of mine, I have been long enough in this game to know lost brothers, awake brothers, sleeping brothers, and enemies wearing veneers of Brotherhood.

Laudate and Madcow( Okija juju) fall into the last group.
They are more dangerous than the real enemies, because they are enemies that gets close enough to you using their veneer of Brotherhood, and then strike you at the heart. You are never going to give real enemies such chance.

Characters like those two must as much as possible be distinguished as non Igbo and Igbophobic for the benefit of the gullible Igbos.

Dalu kwa

You are right. We can not be brothers. You have a great propensity for turning truth on its head! Nonetheless, I shall respect Maazi Naijaking1 and ignore you from henceforth. Thank you!

Donarozzi:
The Igala area of Kogi state and the entire Benue state (Idoma and Tiv) are geographically located in Eastern Nigeria. I think Biafra should comprise the Igala, Idoma, Tiv, and the current South-East and South-South states with the exception of the Itsekiri people. See map below.

Let me guess... you failed basic geography in secondary school. That is why you are classifying land that belongs to Igala, Idoma and Tiv tribes as part of the South-East??!

Nothing wey person no go see for dis place!! Chukwu biko! Remove that fake thinking cap from your head. Your dreams of territorial expansion will not work. Hehehe.....

onenaira3:
that brain dead monkey is a billion times better than a man without a ball. There is a reason why i didn't call you any animal because even animals are not forwards ob this planet, it'll be an insult to them. Even a transgender is better than your miserable savage @ss.

A delusion he says then the entire NL is deluded. How many people on this forum actually believes your not yoloba. Like I said your so dimwitted and braundeas, you actually think your fooling away and the funny aspect of it, your disgraceful, coward ass is failing miserably at it that's why you keep shouting "you're making me laugh". Dude I toon psychology in school dimwirm you it the behavior of a man failing to keep his story straight. Word of advice: if you want to pretend to be a "non Yoruba" then don't make it to miserably obvious you are one. You only end up fooling your bi polar self. While I'm at it LASTPROPHET next time , a glance at both ID is a dead give away. Considering in both you write epistle and you've been in this forum pretty much every day and every second like the miserable, underpaid clown you are, I'm not going to waste them comparing and contrasting. I only do that when the person does not have thousands of post and most definately not unemployed loser who stays on NL 24-7. Unlike you I have a life but I'll urge anyone interested to glance and both past I'd post and after doing so, point out the difference. Like I've said repeatedly tufiakwa for yolobam I honestly till this day never met people as pathetic as you ppl. Honest to GOD I have not. I keep saying it,when Satan made Una, GOD was asleep hence couldn't stop him releasing you disgrace to the world
Tufiskwa

Are you a human? you're not a man, you're not a woman, you're not even a fucking transgender. A human being have characteristics that you don't possess. Men are born with courage, women are born with heart, neither of which describe you. Nigga you're not even an animal because even they have those characteristics. You're not even an a virus or any kind of pathogen whatsoever ever. Dude your a mistake, a biological, mutated mistake and you deserve death. Your life is worth nothing and your future is nothing. The world is better with a mutated mistake breathing the limited air and taking up space on the already over populated planet.

Twist my words as much as you like, it's not going to change the original meaning when I wrote it. You are a disgrace to humanity. Your parents should have aborted you when they had the chance.

Hahahaha...! Chukwu Nnà, bikō zọpùṭ a ānyị n’aka ndị niiìṇ e nā-akpọ ānyị asì

Onenaira3 has finally truly lost it. Someone should show him the way to the nearest asylum. See the way he is foaming at the mouth, biko nu!! Chai! See he has just confessed that his "life is worth nothing and (his) future is nothing." Those were his words o! He also acknowledged that he is " a mutated mistake breathing the limited air and taking up space on the already over populated planet." He might just commit suicide o!

Don't say I didn't warn everyone on Nairaland.... he finds it painful that I'm on NL everyday. Someone should help me ask him if it is his MB or data bundle that I use, whenever I'm online. Then he said: "Dude I toon psychology in school dimwirm you it the behavior of a man failing to keep his story straight." Can anyone translate what he just said, here??

He has finally exhibited a radical loss of touch with reality!

LastProphet:
Am sorry sir, I talk like that because am annoyed and am sure if you think for a moment there is nothing to be happy about in kogi since 'we' igalas have been ruling and we insist on continuing just like any other tribe in Nigeria anyway. But I think we Nigerians (Ibo, hausa, Yoruba, Tiv, Binis, etc) should start to rise above primordial sentiments like tribalism if we are ever to start our journey. I have worked closely with people in kogi govt especially under Wada and bros it is very very disappointing. I have witnessed incidences where many many laudable ideas were turned down by Wada just because of the promptings by tribal igala bigots around him who have no clue what the responsibilities of power is. Please find out - Dangote offered N250m to be paid annually to the kogi development masterplan committee initiated by Wada himself headed by the late prof idachaba, the state refused to apply for the grant based on the kindergarten explanation given the governor by his so-called kitchen cabinet. I also witnessed a N500m water resources grant offered in 2008/9 by the EU (free money please, not loan) when Samuel Okedi was at EU and had finished facilitating it, the Igala commissioner said Gov Ibro wanted some bribe BEFORE HE APPLIED FOR GRANT THAT WAS WAITING FOR HIM!

Bros I could go on and on, my architect friend here in Abuja - an established international architect was in a team with some Asian investors that came to kogi with the idea and the money to turn that waterfront to an international beach resort - I was told the governor didn't understand what they were saying - he kept embarrassing the investors with suggestions of bribe when what was offered was beyond a lifetime bribe. Bros do you want me to go on?

I once heard that the definition of madness is when you keep doing the same thing and expect different results. I think its time igalas begin to understand that it might not be another igala that will take the state forward that is just what am trying to say. And am sure by now you no longer doubt that am also igala.

And on whether I will be sad if igala wins, I have no problem with that please, I don't live in kogi and I don't need to do that anymore all glory to God. I just say this for the poor kogi folks who we all have a responsibility to. Sorry sir if I insulted you, I see you are a gentle man and I have no right to insult you - am sorry

Chai!! Dis country! I weak o!

Abeg, that your architect friend can he build the resort in Lagos or any other state along the coastline?? I know some states that are looking for this kind of development. Just think of the number of jobs that can be created by this project.

And if ferry services and a waterfront jetty is tied into the whole deal, it will open up another area of business, entirely!

LastProphet:
Am sorry sir, I talk like that because am annoyed and am sure if you think for a moment there is nothing to be happy about in kogi since 'we' igalas have been ruling and we insist on continuing just like any other tribe in Nigeria anyway. But I think we Nigerians (Ibo, hausa, Yoruba, Tiv, Binis, etc) should start to rise above primordial sentiments like tribalism if we are ever to start our journey. I have worked closely with people in kogi govt especially under Wada and bros it is very very disappointing. I have witnessed incidences where many many laudable ideas were turned down by Wada just because of the promptings by tribal igala bigots around him who have no clue what the responsibilities of power is. Please find out - Dangote offered N250m to be paid annually to the kogi development masterplan committee initiated by Wada himself headed by the late prof idachaba, the state refused to apply for the grant based on the kindergarten explanation given the governor by his so-called kitchen cabinet. I also witnessed a N500m water resources grant offered in 2008/9 by the EU (free money please, not loan) when Samuel Okedi was at EU and had finished facilitating it, the Igala commissioner said Gov Ibro wanted some bribe BEFORE HE APPLIED FOR GRANT THAT WAS WAITING FOR HIM!

Bros I could go on and on, my architect friend here in Abuja - an established international architect was in a team with some Asian investors that came to kogi with the idea and the money to turn that waterfront to an international beach resort - I was told the governor didn't understand what they were saying - he kept embarrassing the investors with suggestions of bribe when what was offered was beyond a lifetime bribe. Bros do you want me to go on?

I once heard that the definition of madness is when you keep doing the same thing and expect different results. I think its time igalas begin to understand that it might not be another igala that will take the state forward that is just what am trying to say. And am sure by now you no longer doubt that am also igala.

And on whether I will be sad if igala wins, I have no problem with that please, I don't live in kogi and I don't need to do that anymore all glory to God. I just say this for the poor kogi folks who we all have a responsibility to. Sorry sir if I insulted you, I see you are a gentle man and I have no right to insult you - am sorry

Chai!! Dis country! I weak o!

Abeg, that your architect friend can he build the resort in Lagos or any other state along the coastline?? I know some states that are looking for this kind of proposal and development. Just think of the number of jobs that can be created by this project.

And if ferry services and a waterfront jetty are tied into the whole deal, it will open up another area of business, entirely!

onenaira3:
Even a brain dead monkey can see your yoloba from far away. You reek it. You are just a coward like the rest of your ppl. You want proof, go through your entire f2king post, you've defended your tribe beyond limited number of times, most threads you've been on this forum, majority of your post are either about Yoruba, igbo or buhati/APC, nothing else. After doing so, go through the post of last prophet and your post, identical wording, identical highlighting, identical everything. Wtf is last prophet ethnicity again? Exactly. Nobody on this forum actually believevtour cowardmess. You are just an ediotic, illiterate coward and not only that, you actually so stup1d you think you have ppl fooled. What a miserable savage you are. I actually don't blame me, I'll dissaciote from my tribe if GOD mistakenly try to torture me and bore me as a yoloba. I'll fixing kill myself so honestly I don't even blame you.


That's all you are worth insults. Your a disgrace to humanity and a disgrace to black men everywhere. A coward illiterate even online is not worth an intelligent conversation rather all you are meant for is to be insulted. Your the black men bitach and my biatch deserve to be treated like a biatch until you grow a f2king balls. Until then, each time you call me, let me make it easy for you, I'll INSULT THE HELL OUT OF U and you better hope to God I never meet you cause trust me on this, I'll shoot you swear in your head. I f2king promise you that.



Your right. I will continue publicizing yoloba true characteristics. Are una disgraceful? Yep. Disgusting? Yep criminalistic? Yep savage? Hell yeah and cowards? Look at you and look at that stament, HELL f2king yeah. You're a perfect example of it.
And I know you need medical help. You need therapy and a psychologist/psychiatrist.


As far as I'm concerned your worth to this world dead than alive. The entire world would be better without shameless cowards like yourself breathing. Despicable coward. Do the world a favour and stop taking up the air meant for human beings.

Chai!! Na so di matter pain you reach?? Eewo! Those who said you had gone round the bend, truly did not lie!!

It appears that if you do not toss out your usual anti-Yoruba insults in one day, you cannot make progress. You claim "a brain dead monkey can see your yoloba from far away. You reek it." Well, since you say a brain dead monkey can see this, then I guess you must be that brain dead monkey, since you can see this delusion so clearly. ROFLMAO!!

Each time you try to pin a Yoruba identity on me, it makes me laugh. How can someone like you be so blinded by hate that you are so determined to foist the identity of another ethnic group on me?? LWKMD. You even called me LastProphet!! Chukwu biko! Can you imagine that??! The whole world knows that LastProphet and Laudate are two different people. Yet in your befuddled state, you feel they are one and the same. You need a health check. A mental one.

Finally, why are you so obsessed with death that you are seeking for it to happen to another human being, created by God?? Unfortunately, that death will first catch you, because hatred and death are spiritual brothers. A statesman once said that hating someone else is like drinking poison, while expecting the other person to die. Ịkpō ̣mmadù ̣ibē ānyị asì ḅ ù ̣ǹjọ.

But sha, all these insults have made it clear that you have an internal problem. Your people tried to raise you with good manners I believe, but you refused to imbibe their teaching, which is why you love dishing out insults. So sadly, I am forced to agree, that you are "a disgrace to humanity and a disgrace to black men everywhere. A coward illiterate... disgraceful? Yep. Disgusting? Yep criminalistic? Yep savage? ", because those are the exact words you have used to describe your own self.

Go for deliverance. And if all else fails, head for the nearest river. I hope you find the peace that has so desperately eluded you. What a pity...

naijaking1:
@pienza and laudate
You guys are both old men in this game.
Why do you two brothers fight over who shall sleep on the wall side of the bed while the real enemy is outside your house gathering petrol, tires, and dried leaves to set the whole whole house on fire!!!

If someone wants to be identified as having Igbo roots let him do so, if he chooses not to do so, let no harm come to him either. Sands always settle at the bottom of the sea when the tempest pass. Peace

Bros, you talk am well. May you live long! Pazienza is the one always trying to decree the kind of identity, each individual must bear. Why?? Ọ nà-èkwu ife à daa...

Why must a person inflict his own idea of what constitutes an 'identity,' on someone else? He just dey drink panadol for another person headache o!

Daalu zi!

onenaira3:
You dimwitted YOLOBA coward buf00n. Did I or did I not tell you, NEVER in your miserable savage life mention by I'd again until you grow a f2king balls and be proud of your savage tribe. Did I or did I not? I swear I wish i know where the f2k you are do I can shoot you updideyoyr f2jing head. You deserve nothing but death coward monkey.

BTW next time you try to tell a story while trying to paint your disgraceful, disgusting , criminalistic, savage drive "clean", do your self a favour and tell it like it is. The "SS" was a yoloba monkey and that's what I proved on that thread. Next time he wants to speaks, let him speak as himself instead if being like you usual coward tribe. F2king disgraceful savagez

And you just proved me right! Hehehe, why am I not surprised?? ..... See how you automatically reached for your usual 'Yoruba' handle, in order to toss out the lousy insults that you are renowned for. I have asked you repeatedly to provide proof that Laudate is Yoruba. You have not been able to do so, till date.

Instead of using well-researched logical facts to make your point, you resorted to ad hominem attacks, insults and vituperation. Typical. Everyone can see that the money spent on your education was wasted. How sad.

Now, there is no need to continue publicising the hatred you have for yourself, by using words like "disgraceful, disgusting , criminalistic, savage, coward etc", to describe your true character. It is obvious that you need medical help.

As for the death that you are invoking, it will first deal with you and your destiny, before it goes back into the abyss where it belongs. Back to sender!

What about the LR3?? Is it still available?

Where is it located? Hope it is in Lagos, so that an inspection can be conducted?

cheruv:
Skewed to which direction

Are you the OP?

How many duplicated threads will you open concerning this same property?

olawalepopoola:
To us young folks in Nigeria, tribalism is our major problems. I took out time to read a comprehensive book on the Civil war also known as the Biafra war chronicled on a day to day basis from December 31, 1964 when the election crisis that almost tore Nigeria apart started. The book is titled "The Untold Story of the Nigeria - Biafra War: A chronological reconstruction of the events and circumstances of the Nigerian Civil War by Dr. Luke Nnaemeka Aneke, which was forwarded by Gen. Philip Effiong (Rtd).
July 29, 1966: Ironsi was kidnapped and overthrown and heavy fighting was recorded in Abeokuta.
July 30, 1966: Brig. Ogundipe attempts to palliate northern rebels
July 31, 1966: Northern rebels reject Brig. Ogundipe's (the Deputy to Ironsi) leadership
This problem started when Ironsi announced the formation of the Republic of Nigeria jettisoning the existing regionalism! The Northerners saw it as attempt to etched them out of power by an Easterner.
August 1, 1966: Gowon siezes power
August 2, 1966: Ojukwu challenges Northern-led army against their mutiny against Ironsi. Gowon releases prominent six westerner and easterner politicians from detention ( the AG was divided, when Akintola as the premier of western Nigeria, aligned with the north, Awo aligned with the east). The mutiny led to the killings of easterners by northerners not WESTERNERS
August 3, 1966: Killing of Igbo officers continues. North plans secession (Igbos were not the first to plan secession in the country). Secession was abandoned by Gowon cos of pressure from Britian, US and some other Africa countries. Awo was released.
August 3, 1966: Gowon appoints civilian advisers
August 5, 1966: Northern rulers confer
August 8, 1966: Gowon abolishes unitary system set by Ironsi
Sep 11, 1966: National conference commences in Lagos to determine if Nigeria would continue to exist. 26 prominent Nigerians were selected by the four different regions (North, West, Mid-West and East) to deliberate. Let see why Gowon must apologise:
1. During the deliberation, the east and north reach a compromise to have a loose center and a very strong region where everyone would developed at its own pace
2. The west accepted the offer but suggested that minorities ethnic group must also be given regions so that they can develop at their own pace
3. The east agreed with the west, but said the minorities like the Efik and Ibibios must report to Enugu.
4. All was set for the referendum to take place! Gowon called his northerner brothers and told them to shelve the plan for confederation! He said it will never work!
5. The northern delegates succumbed and the dream confederation failed.
6. The east and the west stood on confedralism.
7. The reason why Gowon pressurised them was that he saw that the north was lagging in education, and reason of accepting the idea of confedralism will spell a doom to the north.
8. He also found out that the oil and gas in the eastern region would affect their economy.
9. Another major reason why the confedralism plans failed was because the north was not ready to release the Lagos port to the west!
(Source: "The Untold Story of the Nigeria - Biafra War: A chronological reconstruction of the events and circumstances of the Nigerian Civil War by Dr. Luke Nnaemeka Aneke, which was forwarded by Gen. Philip Effiong (Rtd).)
So our dear Ibo brothers and Sisters, blame Gowon for Nigeria problems and not Awolowo or the westerners!

Why is your chronology starting from July 1966?

Why didn't it start with the killing of the politicians prior to that date?

There are over 200 books and articles written on the civil war and its aftermath. Over 2,100 secret American diplomatic dispatches/documents have also been de-classified. Read all those ones too, before forming a conclusion. Don't base your submission on just one book that is heavily skewed in one direction.

pazienza:
[b] Let`s leave what happened in the Edo UK event out of this matter and come to the reality, my names are Uwabor Chukwuma Patrick and anybody that hears or sees my middle name written will quickly conclude that I am an Igbo man, that is why my primary school teacher changed Uwabor to Nwafor but I am from Igbanke in Orhiowon Local Government Area of Edo State
It used to be convenient during the old Bendel State when asked, where are you from? Agbor of-course, how will you feel when someone from Igbanke can speak with an Igbo man from Abia,Anambra,Enugu,Imo fluently and cannot relate to his brother from the same LGA . I remember my enrollment into the secondary school and I was ask state of origin and that was the year the two states came out of the then Bendel State and I remembered my Uncle had earlier told me that we are now Edo State,I quickly replied "Edo sir" but looking on my names Nwafor Chukwuma and staring at me,a Bini man behind me spoke bini to me and I said "I don`t understand" and he said "he`s from Delta" and Delta State was written for me as my state of origin back then.
Presently now where I live here in Gombe,Nigeria we the Igbanke people meets once a month and for the state meeting, we attends Delta State meeting all
these because of language barrier. [/b]

This is a true life story an Igbanke person shared on Nairaland.

If you are an Igbanke and you bear an Ika name, the Edos will discriminate against you and deny you your rights.
Look at how he was dismissed as a Delta Ika man.
Imagine what could have been going on in the ancient era, and you wonder why we have many Igbankes with Edo names?
www.nairaland.com/1476072/igbanke-edo-state-delta-state/1

You might as well read the beginning part of that thread, the Adagbon of a lady is the admin of Igbanke Facebook page, she is a very Igbophobic human being.

Story, story....story!! What is the population of the citizens of Igbanke land?

Oh, two people shared a story and you claim victimisation. That post on the nairaland link was culled from the same Ikaworld website so don't make it seem as if several sources are saying the same thing. It is still from one original link.

Why didn't the Chukwuma guy educate his teacher and classmates, on his state of origin and his community??

So, because a classmate spoke Bini to him and he couldn't respond, that classmate concluded his state of origin was Delta and the teacher accepted. He was a first class mugu!

If he had denied it sharply, and brought a map to school the very next day to educate them about the name of his local govt area and his ethnic origin, then no one would have treated him with such levity.

When a man does not understand his own identity and cannot defend it appropriately, people will call him whatever they like, and tell his story for him, like you are doing now for the Igbankes. So Chukwuma should have held his ground and not allowed anyone to determine his state of origin for him!

Someone once called me a Ghanaian when I went to school in the UK. Another one said I was from Niger. What an abomination! Sharp, sharp I turned round to refute it, and lectured him on my country, its location in sub-saharan West Africa and the difference between Nigeria, Niger and Ghana. That was the last time, anyone tried that rubbish!

Bini imperialism died decades ago. Why are they still clinging to such names, afterall their language is Ika, and not Bini? If Bini influence was as strong as you claim, why isn't their language Bini or an Edo dialect?

Finally, stop running from pillar to post. restrict your answers to the Igbanke alone, and not the entire Anioma region. No one has brought up Anioma in this discussion, except you.

Meanwhile, you have not provided answers to the questions, I asked you. Still waiting!

pazienza:
https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/

Now, I think I am done with you.

The point remains that while Igbanke is holding strongly unto her native Ika-Igbo nature under Bini imperialism, Ogba a free Kingdom, that is not under Bini control or influence, is willingly throwing away her native Igbo nature and replacing them with Bini ones, just to spite themselves and to stay away from the Igbo tag as far as possible.

pazienza:
Igbanke victimization and forceful assimilation in Edo is a well known topic if you are conversant with Igbanke people. The people has been agitating to be re United their Ika kin in Delta state to preserve their Ika culture.

People like you are treacherous and deceitful, they make good revisionists.

Igbanke has no dual heritage, they are of Ika-Igbo stock, they can communicate freely with an Igbo man as far away as Abia state without needing an interpreter,
But they can't communicate with any Edo group without first learning the Edo language or using an interpreter, this is despite the fact they they have lived with edos for centuries. Other than having to suffer under Bini imperialism, they have no Bini heritage.

You can as well ask me why do Nigerian rulers go by the name presidents?
Isnt it obvious that it is so because we live in an anglo Saxon dominated world?
Igbanke people bear Edo titles and names because they are still under Edo influence in Edo state, it's as simple as that.

Of course I had explained how those Bini names came about, it was due to Bini imperialism. Those in Igbanke that sought to be recognised and approved by Binis must change their names to Bini ones, moreover since Bini of old was a prestigious empire, some of them( Igbanke) deliberately took up Edo names just to attach to Bini fame, this same thing happened in Anioma, I will be back to hit more on this.

Cut the crap. There is no Bini imperialism, anywhere. Not in this day and age.

And the Igbanke also hold on to their Bini heritage, just as they hold on to the Igbo one. None of them is superior to the other!

The treachery and revisionism is only in your own soul! Stop bringing Anglo-Saxon examples into this discussion. You are just trying to digress, because you know quite well that your argument is weak and holds no substance.

How come the victimisation issue can only be found on just one site, if it is so well-known? Igbanke people are quite vocal. They have complained loudly about the lack of infrastructure in their own area, just like many other Edo communities have done.

And like stated in my last post which I have just updated; Peter Ikem that you are using as an example of that victimisation was made Edo State Commissioner for Oil & Gas. If victimisation of Igbanke people was as widespread as you claim, would he have been considered for that position??

Even the election he contested and lost, the election tribunal headed by an Igbo man dismissed it! Wouldn't the Judge have upheld Ikem's submission if he had a case??

Is this not the same one kingharryz is selling? That he just claimed has been sold in his thread?

Check it here: https://www.nairaland.com/2554390/sold-lexus-rx330-sold#down

pazienza:
You are pathetic, there is nothing historical about the presence of Enogie in Igbanke, it is only but a relic of Bini forced assimilation of the people, I had shown that the people's original title for King is Eze or Obi like other Ika-Igbo clans.

I had also shown how Bini had subtly forced Bini names in Igbanke people, by selectively discriminating and marginalizing Igbankes with native Ika-Igbo names, and favouring those who threw away their native Ika-Igbo names for Bini/ Edo ones. A development that Igbanke people had over in history fought back against by trying to hold unto as little as possible bits of their original native Ika-Igbo nature .

Every Bini like aspect of Igbanke was forced on the people by the Bini, but if left the their own, the people will revert back to their original Ika-Igbo nature.

Yes, the King of the Oligie clan of Igbanke does not go by the Bini imposed title, "Enogie", he goes by the title "Eze" as an alias.

If there is anyone trying to revise history here, it's you, who is attempting to present Bini forced relics that the Igbankes are fighting against as a historical and original part of Igbanke.

You have refused to learn. And people like you make very bad scholars. Unfortunately, you are the pathetic one that refuses to see that Igbanke people have a dual heritage, and you want to sweep the Edo part of their heritage under the carpet to favour your revisionist thinking.

So out of 6 clans, you found only one chief bearing an alias, not even a real title of 'Eze,' and you feel that it is the standard or norm among the Igbankes? You are still stubbornly clinging to this your Eze and Obi theory, despite the fact that the Enogies outnumber your Eze, 2 to 1. And you are also stubbornly holding on to the info in one website, as if that source is the Bible on which the entire Igbanke kingdom, is based. Hehehe ... I laugh in Greek!

Secondly, your story of victimisation is only stated in 1 link. All other links about the Igbanke people do not carry this so-called victimisation. Is it because it is NOT as widespread as you are trying to make people believe or because it is simply sour grapes from one aggrieved defeated political candidate? Even in Lagos which is Yoruba land, there are 2 Igbo citizens that won elections into the House of Reps, despite their ethnic affiliation. So the Igbanke candidate that lost, claiming he was discriminated against based on his name, was probably clutching at straws. The Igbanke citizen who lost was Peter Ikem , who until last year was the Edo State Commissioner for Oil & gas Matters in Edo State. he had earlier taken his case to the election tribunal, and the tribunal dismissed his case! For your information the head of the tribunal was Justice Peter Umeadi! Would you say Umeadi could not vote in favour of Peter Ikem if he had a strong case? From there, Peter Ikem went to the high court, and still lost!

Nigeria: Tribunal Dismisses Ikem's Petition Against Aisowieren
_{By Gabriel Enogholase}

The Reconstituted Governorship and Legislative Houses Election Tribunal in Edo State weekend in Benin dismissed the petition filed by the Action Congress (AC) candidate, Mr. Peter Onyekewen Ikem, in the Orionmwon East Constituency of Edo State House of Assembly.

Mr. Ikem had challenged the declaration of the PDP candidate, Mr. Patrick Aisowieren, as the winner of the Orhionmwon East Constituency in the State Assembly elections, following the order by the Court of Appeal in Benin for a retrial of his case after it was earlier dismissed by the Justice Peter Umeadi-led Tribunal. http://allafrica.com/stories/200903230531.html

I bet if the shoe was on the other foot, and it was the Igbo victimising Igbanke sons and daughters, you would have claimed that there was no evidence to substantiate their claims, and as such it could not have happened. Like you did in that other thread...remember??

I asked you a question earlier: "Why do the rulers of Igbanke clans bear Edo names?" Afterall, in this day and age, people are free to change their names back to their ancestral ones, if they feel their current names do not serve any useful purpose. Yet they are still bearing their Edo names with pride. Why??

Secondly, do you agree that sons and daughters of Igbanke land bear Edo names like Omorodion, Idabor, Olubor, Osunde, Eni, Ogbomor, Irabor, Oghumu, Edobor, Idahosa etc?

Finally, Do you agree that they are no less Igbanke, than those who bear Ika names?

So a landlord should not enjoy the fruits of his labour, abi?? Nonsense. Some of these tenants that refuse to pay rent, buy fresh tokunbo cars every other year, travel at the drop of a hat, and purchase the latest lace fabric for every happening party.

Fire your agent or care-taker. Immediately. He is in cahoots with the defaulting tenants. Get a new agent, and a sharp property lawyer. All of you should go together, to meet the tenants on a pre-appointed day.

Draft a fresh 3-6 months eviction notice and serve each of the defaulting tenants. Once the eviction notice expires, do not hesitate; just head for the courts and put bailiffs on standby. Or you can do the 'Jankara' method. If all else fails, resort to prayer and fasting!

You can't even try this kind of thing with my former landlord, oh! He go remove the roof make rain beat you well-well, before he gives you a written eviction notice.

Where is the real photograph of the station? Why are you putting an artist rendered drawing here?

a). Where is this estate? Is it far from Ajah? In what part of Ibeju-Lekki exactly, is it located ?

b). You said the kind of title it has is a Gazette? is there discount for buying multiple plots?

c). What is the plot size?

d). Is the area sandy or waterlogged?

e). Is the area ready for immediate development (i.e. can you buy it today, start building tomorrow and move in once it is completed?)

f). Is the road leading to the site, a tarred one?

a). Where is Sapati? Is it near Lakowe? In what part of Ibeju-Lekki exactly, is it located ?

b). What kind of title does it have? Is it C of O, Excision or Gazette?

c). What is the plot size?

d). Is the area sandy or waterlogged?

e). Is the area ready for immediate development (i.e. can you buy it today, start building tomorrow and move in once it is completed?)

f). Is the road leading to the site, a tarred one?

a). In what part of Wakas at Sangotedo, Lekki exactly, is it located?

b). What kind of title does it have? Is it C of O, Excision or Gazette?

c). What is the plot size?

d). Is the area sandy or waterlogged?

e). Is the area ready for immediate development (i.e. can you buy it today, start building tomorrow and move in once it is completed?)

f). Is the road leading to the site, a tarred one?