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a). In what part behind the Monastery in Lekki exactly, is it located?

b). What kind of title does it have? Is it C of O, Excision or Gazette?

c). What is the plot size?

d). Is the area sandy or waterlogged?

e). Is the area ready for immediate development (i.e. can you buy it today, start building tomorrow and move in once it is completed?)

f). Is the road leading to the site tarred??

What kind of title does it have?

pazienza:
Not all Igbanke clans have their leader with the Enogie title, some retained their Eze title- Fact.

Enogie title was forced on Igbanke by Edos and the people wish to revert back to their original Eze and Obi titles- Fact

The presence of Bini names amongst Igbankes is as a result of forceful assimilation of the People by Edo, and would gradually be replaced with Ika- Igbo ones the moment Igbanke is freed from Edo influence by returning them to Delta state- Fact

All your attempts at revisionism is falling flat in its face. Igbanke is made up of 6 clans. Name all the Igbanke communities (not just one) that have an Eze ruling them.

Historically, Igbanke is made up of six autonomous communities namely of Omolua, Ottah, Idumuodin, Ake, Oligia and Igbontor. Each of the six communities has an Enogie as a king.

I can tell you four of the clans that already have Enogies, as their kings. HRH Dr Isaac Uwaifo, is the Enogie of Omolua.

Another one is HRH Blessing Otabor Igiebor, the Enogie of Idumodin in Igbanke. http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=IkaNews&article=1001

Updated:

The Enogie of Igbontor is HRH Jeremiah Omorodion; and Enogie of Ottah-Igbanke, HRH J.C. Isitor
http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/healtheducation/forum/topics/igbanke-bini-or-ika

When are you going to provide a response to these questions??

pazienza:
There is no one side of the story, Enogie only exists in some Igbanke clans because the Edo had been forcefully trying to assimilate the people, the original Igbanke word for King is Eze or Obi, Enogie is a result of Bini forceful occupation and attempt at assimilation of the area.
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.
ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.
https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/
Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atle

Your errors have been pointed out but you are still recycling the same one-sided story you quoted from your source.

The Igbanke people have Enogies as their kings. They may have been named Eze or Obi in the past, but right now their titles are Enogie, which are Bini titles. Fact!

Igbanke sons and daughters bear both Edo and Igbo names, not just Igbo names like you are trying to portray here. Fact!

Their rulers or Enogie bear Edo names! Fact!

So stop telling a one-sided story, that is skewed to fit your biased mind.

italo:
I didn't say that. There's no need to distort what I said.

I said 'you' can't prove to me that Eyigbemi, if that's the spelling is Akenzua's child's name.

"He was my classmate" is no proof.

The name not on Google could be an indication that the name is not used by anybody of note.

Oga, the spelling is 100% percent correct! No doubt about that. Every child in my school was taught to spell not just his own name correctly, but those of his classmates. I was often selected to write down the names of the noise makers in my class, and Eyi often tried to bribe me with groundnut & popcorn, to remove his name from the list!

pazienza:
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.

https://naijadebate./2014/12/10/a-thread-on-the-history-of-the-igbanke-people-of-edo-state/



Well, they say they are not Igbos, but atleast their original names and traditional titles says other wise, and they want those names and titles back, while Ogba decided to throw away her traditional Eze title for Oba.

Why do you find it difficult to put forward balanced arguments? Your post makes it seem as if the Eze and Obi title is the de facto title of all the Igbanke kings or village heads. So how come a whole Igbanke town union did not acknowledge this so-called fact? And how come the title of Enogie is more prominent in Igbanke than that of Eze?

And why do those Enogies have Edo names? Not only that, names like Omorodion, Irabor, Uwaifo are also very prominent among Igbanke sons and daughters. So stop presenting a one-sided story, biko nu!

The same Ikaworld site also says the following:

Igbanke Now Belongs to The League
_{Azuka Osunde, Germany}

Monday, 03.12.2012, 11:29pm (GMT+1)

Igbanke is a town in Orhonmwon Local Govt. with six (6) villages independent of the other with each village headed by an Enogie (King).
Igbanke has produced men and women in (big) positions in all works of life, like Emman Decency, Justice Olubor, Osunde, Eni, Ucheka Eluhike, Ogbomor, Irabor Ken, Omo Disco, KOB, Ben Oghumu, Gabi Edobor, Late Benson Idahosa etc.

Igbanke is said to be the birth place of Dr. Ogbemudia. So we had some development in his time like the Local Library, Igbanke Grammar School, and the General Hospital. The Post office was built by the locals with their money and donated to the government in his time. But since he left government as a military ruler, the people of Igbanke have been left alone to lick their wounds.....
http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=IkaArticles&article=1064

pazienza:
Igbanke community is ruled by rulers with such titles as: Obi, Eze and Enogie depending on the village. That is at the kingship level.
http://universitiesprojectmaterials.com/english-language/98/satire-in-the-oral-poetry-of-igbanke

This is a project by one student in a university! And you chose to believe it, without checking if his comments were factual or if he cited any sources to corroborate his statements! Jeez! In your previous response which I quoted, you did NOT even say that Enogie was one of the kingship titles among the Igbanke. You made it seem as if Eze was the sole title of their kings!

I have given you a source which is a website put together by adult members of an entire community, who have formed themselves into a union. Is Enogie an Igbo word? And why do some of the Enogies bear Edo names?

pazienza:
Well , nothin will happen, Buhari is running a Northern government, Saraki is a fulani northerner, his kinsman for that matter.

Re-ea-ally? A lot of your kinsmen on Nairaland have labelled him as 'Yoruba.' Now, who do we believe, hmmn??

pazienza:
As close as Igbanke in Edo state is to Bini, the Igbanke people still retained their Eze title, but Ogba that is in no way close to Edo made up frivolous history stories linking them to Bini, and went on to add salt to injury by changing the name of their monarch from Eze to Oba.

Well, that is not the way I heard the story of the Igbanke people, oh. Kindly find below a short synopsis about the community. It was published online by one of their towns' union, abroad.

Igbanke National Union: Nigeria: Igbanke Community's Search for Better Healthcare Delivery
_{By Isaac Olamika, Benin}

A trip to Igbanke from Ring Road, the commercial nerve centre of Benin City, the Edo State capital, will take at least one hour. For a first time visitor, the signpost to the town which lies in Orhionmwon Local Government Area on the Benin - Asaba Express Road is the Light House Polytechnic; a tertiary institution owned the New Covenant Church. Just opposite the institution's gate is the road that leads to the town.

Historically, Igbanke is made up of six autonomous communities namely: Omolua, Ottah, Idumuodin, Ake, Oligia and Igbontor. Each of the six communities has an Enogie - king. The indigenes of the town trace their history to Benin kingdom where they disclosed they migrated from many decades ago. The language spoken in Igbanke sounds similar to the one spoken by their neighbours, the people of Agbor and some of the surrounding towns in the northern part of Delta State. http://www.igbankenationalunion.com/

italo:
1. Who told you I'm a tribalist? Some of you just type without reading or even thinking.

2. You have no way or proving that Eyigbemi is Oba Akenzua's child's name...or if it is, that the spelling is even correct. Try searching Google for Eyigbemi and tell me if you find anything.

So because his name is not on Google, it means he does not exist?? I don't get it oh! Does it mean that every human being's name has to be listed on Google?

italo:
I don't know...

And you don't know if it is not a Bini name too.

Bros, if it is a Benin name, then kindly tell us the meaning. My friends in school said his name was a Yoruba name. And they translated it at that time. That is all I know.

Sadly, I can't recall the exact meaning now.

italo:
What you heard from who?

Our classmates in school!! Or isn't it a Yoruba name? Pray, do tell.

ArodewilliamsT:
blockheaded mona monkey from the crevices of oshogbo running away from his smelly ethnicity. God don punish you.

ROFLMAO!! Chukwu biko!

Na wa, oh! Ogbuefi, maka gini ... this your hatred & obsession is too much! Too much! Don't let it twist your mind, oh. Chai!

Biaketa, gịnī ḳwọ bùḍù ̣ǹke à? What is this noise you are making about Osogbo?? Is that the area you saw in your dreams? Or is that where this Mutiu who stole your wife came from?? Amārọ m ife dịnwọò ! Bikō kpùṛụkalụ m̄.

Like I once told you before, let me recommend a church where you can do deliverance for free, to get it out of your system??!

Haba!

italo:
How do you know it's not a Bini name?

Eyigbemi? Its' a Yoruba name, from what I heard..!

italo:
No, brother. I didn't prove that both peoples have a common ancestry. I proved that Oduduwa and all his descendants, including Oranmiyan who was sent to rule Benin...have their ancestry in Benin.

As for the Yorubas whom Oduduwa met in Yorubaland...I don't know their ancestry.

What are the Yoruba names of Oba Akenzua's children?

Well, I went to school with one - Eyigbemi Iredia Akenzua. Strangely enough, all his brothers and sisters, (except for the eldest) had Yoruba first names. Their middle names were Bini, though.

ArodewilliamsT:
haaa it is mutiu alias " i no be yoruba". So what is you ethnicity for today. "We SS" ?

Why are you obsessed with my ethnicity?? Will it put millions of naira in your pocket??!

Or bread on your table??

And who is mutiu? Is that the Muslim chap who stole your wife?

Esdb3:
2. In yoruba a single word like 'ogun' can be pronounced in more than five ways. So I mis-spelt nothing. Oshiomole is 'poverty knows no ground or whatever you want to transcribe it".

My Yoruba friend just told me that Oshiomhole could also mean "poverty does not know the thief!"

He also said it could mean "poverty has caught the thief," depending on the accent marks, you put on the vowels.

Hehehe.... what a funny language.

londoner:
If the US endorses it you better know they consider the reforms to be in their favour more than Nigeria's.

Tell dem!

ArodewilliamsT:
That's not the issue here, infact you have used your population tell a lot lies about Bini and twist their history. Any story yorubas touch becomes revisionist poop. There are countless threads and documents on the internet about Binis warning yorubas to stop writing their history for them

Hehehe .... see this Igbo man claiming to know more about Benin/Yoruba history, than the indigenes of those places, themselves. Wonders shall never cease! Chukwu, biko!!

ArodewilliamsT:
That you breed like rats and father million of bastards all over the place does not give you the right to rewrite Bini history. Bini colonized yorubas not the other way round.

Ogbuefi, continue taking panadol for the Benin/Yoruba headache. I have told you before to go for deliverance, in order to free yourself from the obsession you have for these Yoruba people.

It appears that 'juju' they cooked, has eaten deep into your system.

italo:
1. Oranmiyan was the son of Oduduwa who was Bini Prince Ekaladerhan.

2. Oshiomhole is an Edo name, not a Yoruba name. It has a meaning in Edo but no meaning in Yoruba.

3. Next time you want to call someone "dumb," make sure you don't say something dumb too.

Hmmn.... those who say the Yoruba and Benin have the same ancestry, you have just proved them right! Er... so what seems to be the problem? Even some of the late Oba Akenzua's children and grandchildren, bear Yoruba first names.

Aareonakakanfo:
At the end of the day one will just have to ignore these people. i'm now getting used to their jokes. like i've always said its psychological. there's nothing we can do about it other than smile

segend:
That has been my attitude since. I just consider all what they say as vital lies, a psychological term for lies we tell ourselves to cope with reality. In reality, things aren't looking too good for them, so they have to keep repeating these lies, and shouting it till they start believing it, thinking that will give them a measure of comfort and happiness. The sad part is, they are beginning to believe these lies, and losing touch with reality. Next time you see one of their lies, just pity them, no need arguing with them, well, maybe just for the fun sha, you can indulge yourself.

If people keep repeating falsehood, and you do not counter it with truth, sooner or later others will come to accept such falsehood, as 'facts'.

Eluwilussit:
Ndi igbo should respect themselves. You knew what was coming and that's why you refused to have anything to do with the bigot. Now you have been vindicated. This is no time to wail. You lot should be proud of yourselves and hold your heads high. Don't go begging Buhari.

Pull your resources together and govern your region with whatever you get. Show the rest that you can truly stand out and shine, in spite of Buhari's skewed governance. The SE rejected Buhari and didn't want anything to do with him. So one would expect some disgruntled individuals from the SE & SS to complain, but I don't think Ohaneze or any other Igbo representative should beg or wail. Their warning has come to pass.

Gbam!! Gbam!! Gbam!!! You talk am well. Biaketa, collect two bowls of isi-ewu and cold drinks from that corner. The drinks are on me.

Dàalụ zị.

philips70:
Ndigbo wants appointments in a zoo? Are you guys confused?

There is no confusion. Biko, they are waiting for Biafra!!

MadCow1:
Ndi Igbo trying to reap where they did not sow..

When Okorocha was begging Ndi Anambra to vote for Ngige, they rather picked Ekwunife for Senate. Now as much as Ekwunife is my personal person, in terms of Political strategy, Ndi Igbos got it wrong and therefore lost the chance to produce the Senate President of the current Senate.

President Buhari should carry on, I don't care who he appoints as long as his team can successfully clean the mess we are currently inside.

I have never been an advocate of Federal Character and Catchment Area because it creates room for mediocrity.

I have set my stopwatch for Buhari.. So far, So good..


Oganiru Nigeria..

Biko nwokem, leave Uche ekwunife alone. She is trying. I really like her. She did her best in House of Reps and sponsored a number of bills. I believe she would do better in the senate.

Can it fly for =N=1.4 mill?

handie:
So, despite this beautiful lady, this man fit still lie about him certificate. Na wa o! Ogbeni, no go use our money take maintain this iyawo o.... This one na high maintainance o

Are you sure this is the wife? Or the girlfriend? What happened to that married woman Olanike that he was dating, before?

Urban Life Magazine:
The hottest gist making round in Lagos now is how astonishingly beautiful Lagos big babe and fabric merchant, Olanike Ajiwe walked out of her marriage to oil merchant Hakeem Bakare, citing incompatibility and irreconcilable differences. Many are particularly befuddled that she now makes pretence about her gladness of dumping the 11 year-old marriage that produced two children, a boy and a girl, without feeling any remorse.

Feeling like a bird that has just escaped from the cage, Nike, who operates from Oodua Shoping Complex, Ojota and the new Tejousho Market in Yaba, now carries on with the with the expression of glee and gaiety on her beautiful face. In fact the 32year- old beauty has since moved out of her Agidingbi matrimonial home to one of her properties in Magodo. Information reaching Urban Life revealed that Nike must have left her marriage because she was carried off by her alleged lecherous acts with other men other than her husband; only to sell a dummy to those who care to know that Hakeem wanted to poison her.

Those who know her very well can attest to the fact that the fair-skinned lady is very attractive, she walks in beauty like the night. This delightful feature has made her a target of men with big pockets. This number of rich men has randomly tasted her sweet honey pot, while she simultaneously gets gratifications in return. It’s a common knowledge in the Lagos social establishment that she has dated a former Lagos Speaker, a frontline maritime business mogul, whose company’s name starts with letter S and ends with X, and countless number of other high net worth men. Those close to her divulged that, while she was still under her hubby’s roof, for her, it’s like adultery is not a crime, but an amusement,as she did it without shame.

Today one man, Babatunde Fowler, the Executive Chairman of Lagos State Internal Revenue Service, is reason behind her smiles, as they are now said to be soaked in a passionate romance. Trust the deep pocket stylish Lagos Tax Man, he is spoiling her silly with every good thing money can buy. From expensive travels,shopping in fashion capitals of the world, to dazzling her with properties and state-of-the-art cars. Those in the know are quick to divulge that Tunde Fowler single-handed, bought the Tejuosho shop she is now operating from.
http://urbanlifeng.com/default_main/index.php/777-lagos-big-babe-nike-ajiwe-s-marriage-to-hakeem-bakare-crashes-her-hot-romance-with-lirs-boss-tunde-fowler-unveiled-how-the-lagos-tax-man-spoils-her-silly