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Politics › Re: FG Shuts Ascon, Integrated, Mobil, Oando, Sahara, Others Over Oil Scam by laudate: 1:37pm On Aug 10, 2015
EdCure:
You're trying too hard to impress yourself with frivolous and incongruent quibbles. Why don't you just afford yourself a little break before you wear out?

Close mindedness and illogical conclusions are not good attributes to adopt. Think across boards and give credit to those who clearly deserve it, or just maintain the golden silence if your ego dictates otherwise. That's the only way to get or maintain an iota of credibility as a critic.

Don't tell me you're not accorded some stipends for all these absurdities...cos it's debilitating.

I feel entertained, though.
What is frivolous about what she said?? She made a statement, and supported it with facts and relevant sources. So what seems to be the problem??!

I don't get it oh! shocked
Autos › Re: Lexus RX330 2005 Model@ N2.150m by laudate: 12:49pm On Aug 10, 2015
enitiObanke:
Guy pls always indicate in the title of your thread if yor vehicle is 'tokunbo' or 'used'.
This is a used RX330 nah,..... N2mill plus? Abeg!!!
Leave am. After advertising the car for the next 9 months with no buyer, the price will come down. undecided
Business To Business › Re: Luxury Bedsheet Bedspreads Nonfading Material by laudate: 12:31pm On Aug 10, 2015
Pls post pictures of your product here. Let us see how it looks.
Business To Business › Re: Invest In The Growing Domestic Gas Industry by laudate: 12:27pm On Aug 10, 2015
If I want two units of 2.5MT (i.e. 5MT) linked together to about 3 filling heads, what would that cost?

Do you sell gas leak detectors too?
Business To Business › Re: This Offer Is Just Too Good, Buy LPG Tank And Get It Delivered To You For Free by laudate: 12:20pm On Aug 10, 2015
Are these LPG Tanks available on ground right here in Lagos? Where can I arrange an inspection? What is the capacity of the tank? is it up to 5MT or 20MT? Kindly confirm.
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate:
Atigba:
He is not daft

As a child I respect my dad no matter what my mum told me
You re a child doesn't mean you don't have sense

I blame the children they allowed their mother to poison their mind
They wouldn't have allowed the differences in their parent come between them, as long as Femi was playing his role as a father financially most importantly.

Kids are not suppose to take side in family issue they were naive and unwise .
He remains highly daft! A child maybe young, but such a child is not blind or deaf to the actions of the father, or to events unfolding in the family.

When a father decides to cavort around with girls young enough to be his daughter, and posts useless photos of his philandering on social media, you are free to continue respecting him since you are his child. sad

When a father decides to beat up your mother and inflict grievous bodily harm on her, you are free to continue respecting him since you are his child. undecided

When a mother decides to escape for her dear life from this father's hands, and because of that he refuses to pay school fees for the children, and abandons them for many years only to gallivant around town with other women, you are free to continue respecting him since you are his child. shocked

Case closed.
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate: 12:01pm On Aug 10, 2015
onoja12:
see story,if you want to father other peoples child and take on their responsibility,you are free to do so and may you meet wifes like FFK ex to help in that line.the man's point is clear and by African tradition it stands,he doesn't want them,so he has disowned them,end of story
Look at this clown??!! When FFK was posting the pictures of these girls on his facebook page and his website announcing to the world that they were his daughters, he did NOT ask for a paternity test at that time. It is when one of the daughters now wants to get married, that he now decides to question their paternity. May thunder fire his head! angry

Has he not even swallowed his words and recanted? Maybe the drugs were clouding his mind when he claimed to have disowned them... anuofia!
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 11:34am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
Do you expect Diamond to start naming all the Ethnic minorities in the East, do you know how many minorities we already had in Northern Cross Rivers? You are not serious.
An Eastern minority by the name Effiong was the second in command in Biafra, the Attorney General, the commissioners for Education, Agriculture, Health etc were all minorities. Their role in Biafra was unambiguous. Kogbara an Ogoni was Biafra representative in London. How many Eastern minorities were high ranked in Gowon's one Nigerian government that had the best interest of Eastern minorities at heart more than the Biafran government?

Gowon and his people were shouting "Araba" ( division/secession) when they were killing Easterners in the North, they wanted to secede from
the country, you mind explaining to me how and why they changed from Araba to One Nigeria, in a matter of days?

Gowon was the one one who failed to protect Easterners in the North, he feigned weaknesses while his people attacked and killed innocent citizens.

He was the one who broke all the agreements reached in Aburi, deciding to pick and choose which one to implement. Agreement is the end product of negotiation, it's either kept or broken, no inbetween.

He Gowon was the one who declared war on Biafra, not Ojukwu.
No you are the one that is NOT serious! angry Effiong was Ojukwu's deputy. Kogbara was also part of his ambassadors. So why did Diamond choose to overlook or ignore this salient facts in his book, especially when it was such common knowledge? Even if he could not mention all the minorities by name, why could he not list the largest number of minorities in Biafra in terms of size? He was able to recount the participants on the Igbo side, but chose to totally ignore the minorities. That does not portray him as a scholar, but as a mouthpiece of the propaganda arm, of the eastern govt.

Some northerners shouted 'Araba' after the coup led by Igbo soldiers had killed off their most important Northern leaders, but failed to affect any of the Eastern leaders. Aguiyi-Ironsi took over and did nothing! Instead of prosecuting those soldiers implicated in the coup, he kept making empty promises!

Gowon was NOT one of those shouting Araba. Get your facts right. undecided

As for Aburi, 90% of what was agreed at Aburi was offerred to Ojukwu after the initial agreement did not hold. But did Ojukwu accept it? NO. angry A wiser man who wanted to guarantee a safe future for his people would have accepted that 90%, and gone back to the negotiating table to ask for the remaining 10%.

In the words of Uwechue, Ojukwu preferred to "lead his people into a war they were unprepared for!" shocked
Raph Uwechue, "It is sad but instructive irony that Lieutenant Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, one of Africa's one‐time most brilliant political promises, was the man that led his own people with such a lack of ingenuity into what was clearly a foreseeable disaster." The tragedy was built on Ojukwu's inflexibility and the resultant inability to effect compromise on the political side. He fueled the disaster with his ambition, desire and ability to control the situation in Biafra. Ojukwu was fighting a war within the Civil War, as he struggled to keep and consolidate his position of leadership. And the tragedy was prolonged and insured by the divisive actions Ojukwu used to maintain his position of power.
https://maxsiollun./2011/01/03/quick-kill-in-slow-motion-the-nigerian-civil-war/
During the Aburi negotiations, why was full reprieve for the coup plotters put on the table by Ojukwu? Why was he trying to exonerate the Igbo soldiers that had killed the Northern leaders? huh
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 11:06am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
As already explained, the small but
important Efik tribe of 71,000…The (COR)
area is far from homogenous , and many
of the other tribes expressed at least as
much fear of the Efiks and Ibibios as of
the Ibo. It would leave the Ibos of the Ibo
Plateau surrounded by a state whose
reason for existence was hostility to
themselves: the Ibos are an expanding
people…”


Look at this again. The minorities of the Northern Cross Rivers feared the Ibibio-Annang-Efik as much as they feared Ndiigbo.

They wanted a region of their own or to have the status quo.
The COR was never going to pass successfully through a referendum.
Yeah.... jumping to conclusions again. You have a remarkable knack for failing to learn from the mistakes of others and yourself.

How did you know that "the Northern Cross Rivers feared the Ibibio-Annang-Efik as much as they feared Ndiigbo", as you claim? Were you in their mind? Ok, let us assume they feared Ndi'Igbo. Why did the Igbo simply not let them be, by letting them have their own COR Region which they had agitated for?

How do you know that the COR was never going to pass successfully through a referendum?? Were you the govt in power or were you God at that period in time?

When the minorities of the old Mid-West started requesting for the creation of their own region from the old Western region in the fifties, did any of them or even the larger public give them any chance of success? Did they not keep pressing on with their demands until it finally became a reality?? huh
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:58am On Aug 10, 2015
zendy:
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I think you should remember that in July 1966 when the the major TY Danjuma sorrunded Government House in Ibadan, the 3 senior officers in Government house were Lt Colonel Njoku,Lt Colonel Fajuyi and Major General Ironsi. Njoku had to shoot his way out of Government House and escaped with bullet wounds. Soldiers even went searching for him in Hospitals but he was hidden by friends until he managed to escape back to Enugu. In Enugu, Ojukwu rehabilitated Njoku gave him a house, even sent him abroad to get proper treatment for his bullet wounds. When Biafra was declared, Ojukwu promoted Njoku to Brigadier-General and made Army Boss.My personal opinion is that Ojukwu felt that Njoku was an ingrate. In Philip Effiongs book "Biafra: My story" he said that because Njoku had always been senior to Ojukwu, he (Njoku) wasn't happy to be taking orders from his junior. Njoku sent a strongly worded letter to Ojukwu tendering his resignation as Biafran Army Boss and accusing Ojukwu of being to highanded. At that time, people like Lt Colonel Banjo and Major Ifeajuna were plotting to topple Ojukwu and others like Kurubo were defecting. Ojukwu accepted Njoku's resignation but had to keep him under house arrest in incase Njkoku sabotaged Biafra. Unfortunately for Njoku, the war came soon after there were more pressing issues.
Thanks for the info. This means Ojukwu did not tolerate dissent or other perspectives that were different from his own. This corroborates an earlier post that stated that all who disagreed with him were thrown into jail for their views.
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 10:52am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
You mean the part of the Nigerian airway, railway, etc in Biafra does not belong to Biafra because other Nigerians contributed money to build them, Are you by any way implying that the North and the West contributed more to the FG than the East?

Cos, if we agree that all regions contributed equally, it then goes that the part of the railway and airlines in the East, represents Eastern contribution, just as that in the North and west represent the Northern and Western contribution respectively.
Gowon would have had a point, if Biafrans were in addition to claiming the part of the infrastructures in the East, were also claiming those in the North and West. But that wasn't the case, Gowon simply had no point.

On the Ogbemudia stuff,Ogbemudia had links with Anioma, he had ambitions to rule the Midwest, and Midwest contained the Edos and other Midwest minorities that were involved in the massacre of Aniomas, he wanted the whole thing buried in order not to provoke the minorities there that he was seeking their acceptance, he was only convering his own ass. Just like Nigerians would want Ndiigbo to stop talking about Biafra, so did Ogbemudia want the Aniomas to stop talking about their massacre in Midwest.

There was never any report of Biafran soldiers massacre in the Midwest. Yes, I admitted that I can't vouch for isolated individual soldiers escapades, it could have happened or it couldn't have happened I am just being realistic, whatever the case might be, they were not recorded , and so no evidence to prove that.

Ogbemudia had no damn report, if he had, let him produce it. Until then the status quo remains that there were no organized crime by Biafran soldiers against the minorities in the Mid west or East.
Were you present during the establishment of the Nigeria Railways and Nigeria Airways, for you to know that each region contributed equally to these establishment?? So why do you keep jumping to conclusions?? shocked

If 3 people contributed to the successful operation of an establishment and 1 of them decides to unilaterally grab the equipment and revenue accruing from that establishment for himself, without consulting others, what would you call it?? Why are you so prejudiced to support this warped action of the eastern regional govt? Na wah oh.

With respect to Ogbemudia, please get your facts right. He was already the Military Governor of the old Mid-West when the ‘Rebel Atrocities Tribunal of Inquiry’ was established on October 26, 1967. Justice Omo-Eboh chaired it. The tribunal met from December 4, 1967 until September 28, 1968, by which time most people had cooled down. In a move to prevent resentment among the local populace, Ogbemudia decided not to publish the report of the tribunal, which was a grave mistake as it would have checked the propaganda now being circulated by people like you. So what do you mean by saying he aspired to rule the mid-west, when he was already governor at the time the panel was set up?? shocked

In a pattern of behavior that can only be described as self-destructive, the “liberation” force went molesting, raping, kidnapping, torturing, detaining and even killing local figures whose support they badly needed (14, 17). For example, Mr. J. O Adeola (Commissioner of Police), Mr. Olu Akpata (Permanent Secretary), Mr. Sam Umweni (of Radio Nigeria, Benin) and Mr. J Imoukhuede (Head of the civil service), were abducted from Benin and taken back to Biafra. They remained in prison (without trial) until the end of the war (17). In his memoirs, Ademoyega acknowledges: “The 18th battalion stationed in that port (Warri) was a ragged, ill-equipped and ill-controlled unit. Reports of their lawlessness in town had been scandalous.” Such actions (among others) did not endear them to the people they came to liberate from “the north”. Ademoyega summarized it thus: “Biafran entry into the Midwest was seen by the people, especially the non-Ibos of the State, as an act of foreign aggression.” (9)

The decision to occupy and then terrorize a proud and ancient cultural region should not have been made so lightly (18).
Read more: http://newsrescue.com/nigeria-history-biafra-midwest-invasion-1967-lessons-todays-geopolitics/#ixzz3iP47wKOi
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate:
pazienza:
"In an authoritative and detailed
memorandum on the background, cause
and consequences of the Nigerian civil
war issued in November 1968 by more
than sixty British subjects, including Sir
Robert Stapleton, the last British governor
of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was
concluded that of the 37 percent of the
population which they estimated that
minority group represented in Biafra, only
10% would favour continued association
with the federal government". The. New
York review of Books, Volume 14,Number
8. April 23, 1970


Diamond clearly acknowledged the fact that the minorities consisted 37% of Biafran population, so I don't know what you are on about.


Gowon simply had no right whatsoever to divide the East, he lost that right the moment he failed to protect the East from massacre in the North.

What's more, his division showed no recognition of smaller ethnic groups in the East, he simply, failed to address the position of Ahoada, Ogoja, and other smaller division fears of Ijaw and Ibibio-Annang-Efik domination. He simply lacked the moral and political power to divide the East.
What were the constituents of this 37% that he referred to? Did he mention ethnic groups that made up this 37% by name?? Did he make reference to their roles, personal encounters, experiences and loss during the civil war?? They could have been Tanzanians, for all we know! Why did he find it so difficult to put in these details? Wasn't he a scholar carrying out an analysis on the civil war? That was part of the crux of the issues that the 3 scholars took up with him! angry

Yet, you are still quoting this Diamond guy and his wishy-washy defensive statements as if his book is the "Bible" of all events that took place during the war! Read works by other scholars, and compare them with what he has written. You would see a lot of shortcomings in Diamond's book.

You claim Gowon had no right to divide the East. According to who? You claim he failed to protect the Easterners from the massacre in the North. Oh, I agree that more could have been done to protect the Easterners in the North. But don't forget that in deciding to pull out the Eastern region from the rest of the country, Ojukwu precipitated a chain reaction, which led Gowon to create the states. undecided

The issue of rights does not exist in this case.

Read this article:
In the South East, the minorities expressed fear that the Igbos would over-run them commercially and politically (Ojiako 1981:41). For this reason, they demanded for the creation of a separate region to comprise of Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers States. http://www.ajol.info/index.php/ijah/article/viewFile/107562/97415
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 1:09am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
The demand for independence from the Igbos by the Minorities in the East is quite different from that of the Mid western minorities in the Western region.

The difference being that while the Marginalization of the minorities in the Western region was real, that of the East was a matter of perception and not real.

Hence the Eastern minorities unlike their mid western counterparts had no consensus. While the Ijaw and the Ibibio-Annang-Efik pushed for the COR state, the other smaller ethnic groups were both scared of them( Ijaw and the Ibibio-Annang-Efik) just as they were scared of the Igbo, in the end the status quo remained because there was equity the Eastern region as proven by the willink report i posted part of it here.
Very funny. Maybe you were resident in the Eastern region in the mid-fifties, to know that the case of the minorities in the East 'was a matter of perception and not real'. Perception, indeed!! shocked shocked

You are always so quick to dismiss the perspective and encounters other people have had no matter how real it is, because it does not fit into your own view.

There is a word for this kind of mentality. Kindly grow up.
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 1:06am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
Again you are grasping at straws here. There was never a time Ndiigbo prevented the minorities from independence, if you have evidence to prove that,Ndiigbo forcefully held the minorities in Biafra or Eastern region, bring it out, stop beating at the bush.

Bamenda successfully pulled out from the Eastern region.
No, you are the one grasping at straws and beating about the bush. I had made reference in one of my previous posts to show that the minorities agitated for their own independence. Another report puts it better.

At the Ibadan General Conference in 1950, the only delegates to object to three powerful regions within a federal system were officers of the NCNC — Eyo Ita and Mbonu Ojike...

.....The minority movements arose because of the ethnic composition of the three regions. Each region, as we have seen before, had a large ethnic majority — the Yoruba in the West, the Ibo in the East and the Islamic peoples, particularly the Fulani and the Hausa, in the North. In each region some minorities became fearful of domination by the ethnic majority....

.....Until the nationalist movement had colonialism on the run, the minorities were not fearful, because under indirect rule each ethnic group was given a large measure of autonomy and the British rulers were in principle neutral between ethnic groups. But the shield of indirect rule was bound to crumble, and the minorities were not so sure about the neutrality of their fellow Nigerians.

....The relationship between regionalization and the emergence of minority movements is shown most clearly in the Eastern Region. Minority movements demanding a separate state did not develop there until (1) Azikiwe had returned to the Region from Lagos to become its Premier after a ministerial crisis forced the ouster of Eyo Ita, himself a leader of the Efik minority, and (2) the NCNC had abandoned the stand taken at its Kano Conference in 1951 favoring a unitary government and instead had agreed to accept three powerful regions, though at the same time promising to work for more regions .

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/projects/SNCProject/?u=Schwarz_minority_politics_ch_4_excerpt.htm
While the Yoruba-dominated Action Group Party of the fifties, allowed the ethnic minorities of Benin-Edo-itsekiri etc, to have their own Mid-Western region carved out of the old Western region, the Igbo-dominated NCNC political party did not support the eastern minorities in their quest for a region of their own.
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 12:47am On Aug 10, 2015
pazienza:
I fail to find the relevance of this your post. Biafra was an Eastern region affair.

If Gowon was at any point sure that the Eastern minorities were being forced into Biafra, he could have easily accepted the option of UN supervised plebiscite Ojukwu was offering. What exactly was he scared of.

It must also be emphasized that the Nigerian Army didn't consider any part of Biafra more than the other. They shot at everything that moved in PH area, just as they did in Onitsha and Okigwe.
Read my post with with an open mind, very slowly. Remove the blinkers first, so that you can see the relevance.

The relevance is that Diamond's response to the scholars critique, was at best shallow and defensive. It was pointed out that he did not mention the fact that other minority tribes existed in Biafra. His response was to say Nyerere of Tanzania overlooked them too in his speech as if that was a valid reason to ignore the existence of the minorities. shocked shocked

Gowon did not go through a plebiscite, instead he carved out states for everyone including the minorities. It satisfied their request to be free from being lumped under the Igbo-dominated Eastern regional government. undecided
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate: 12:34am On Aug 10, 2015
onoja12:
loss for where?the man has a well respectable daughter and a son,what does he need with three questionable characters
Which son?? shocked shocked Na who born son for FFK? The man cannot father a son, oh!

He has said repeatedly over the past several years, that he has 5 daughters. He even posted their pictures in his facebook account and his website for many years, before he took it down recently. So why is he ranting suddenly about a paternity test??!

Others are looking for just one child, this tout has the guts to say he is disowning 3 at a go! May thunder fire his head! angry

YRRAHERM:
Poor girls, I can only imagine how it must feel to have someone as foolish as FFK as a father.

Better not to have a father than have the country clown/jester as a father.

This is no news,i'm hardly surprised.The man is capable of any sort of foolishness you can think of.

Maybe the muppet is even eyeing the girls.i won't put it past him to start dating the girls now that they are no longer his children. After all his girlfriend are his children's peers. mtchewww.

If na me be d girls,i don dis father am since.good radiance to bad rubbish
Na true you talk, jare! Which kind of a father is FFK?? shocked shocked huh
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate: 12:27am On Aug 10, 2015
duni04:
OK I read about his family squabbles on Sahara reporters and I now agree that his Ex wife Yemisi is a slut. That Tunmi is not Femis child. The evidence is clear and overwhelming, even from the pics here. Yemisi just brought shame upon herself and family.
And you know this because.....?? Provide proof, you slanderer! shocked angry
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate: 12:20am On Aug 10, 2015
einsteino:
As much as neither of us witnessed the entire event, we have to rely on their reported account. I remember him saying his inlaws did not even bother to come see him(that was before he even dissociated himself from the wedding), if you ask me that means either of two things; they must have taken sides(which is immature) or they have agreed that the kid isnt his.
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Guy, what you just did up here is called 'jumping to conclusions.' Why are you relying on FFK's side of the story? Why don't you wait until you hear the ex-wife's account, the in-laws account or the children's account before passing judgement? shocked There is a proverb that says 'only a biased evildoer passes judgement after hearing one side of a story.'

How can you be so sure that FFK is telling the truth? A man that is known to have had a cocaine addiction problem? sad

From the little research I have done on Yoruba tradition, before a prospective in-law can approach a girl's family, that girl would have informed her own family/father about her desire to get married, and introduced the prospective spouse to her dad for his approval. All this happens, before the girl's father can even reach out to the prospective groom's family.

So did FFK tell you that his daughter sought his approval, or that he even made himself available to the daughter? If FFK should be raising dust with anyone, it should be with his own family for not following the right process, by seeking his approval. undecided

So what gibberish is FFK spewing by claiming he approached the family of the groom or the prospective in-laws?

Your own example cited in your post where a guy lied about his father being dead, does not apply in this case. FFK's daughter never lied that her father was dead. Or do you have proof that she did so? huh
Politics › Re: The 3 Daughters Femi Olukayode Disowned (Photos) by laudate: 12:08am On Aug 10, 2015
Atigba:
Because they disrespect him
The guy is daft. Disrespect is engraved in most teenagers clothes. It is called immaturity. They shed the toga, as they grow older. If every father disowns his child for being disrespectful, what would happen to our society?

Thank God, most fathers have more common sense than FFK. cool
Politics › Re: Femi Olu-Kayode Denies Disowning Any Of His Children by laudate: 11:54pm On Aug 09, 2015
Orikinla:
. Sharrrap your non-entity mouth. He is a happy and proud father who is taking care of his children and that makes him a very responsible man. If he has nothing good to offer, beautiful women will not flock to him.
To whom brain is given, common sense is expected . You obviously missed out when the Good Lord was sharing these virtues.

Defender of FFK, were you there when he was taking care of the children, or did you help him deliver the cash he used to pay their school fees? sad

So because beautiful women (some of whom are young enough to be his daughters) flock around him, does that indicate that he takes care of his daughters?? shocked

Every correct answer gets 30 marks! angry
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate: 11:33pm On Aug 09, 2015
pazienza:
I think your " I must not lose mentality" is still playing tricks on you.

Diamond needed not to tell Sara and Norman that they lied, he merely provided facts that would have made the scenario of Biafran soldiers killing Eastern minorities that they ( Norman and Sara) painted, impossible. He needed not say more, it's called maturity. Sara and Norman obviously without your " I must not lose mentality" retreated in peace.

You should have learnt a thing or two from that.
I told you before to stop jumping to conclusions. Yet, you are still doing it. What do you mean by " I must not lose mentality"? Is this supposed to be a contest of some sort, or what??! huh

Guy, this is the world wide web, oh! You cannot throw comments into the public domain and expect everyone to swallow it hook, line and sinker. shocked

Like I said before, everyone had different experiences of the civil and there are several sides to the whole event. Several experiences still need to be shared, addressed and digested for future reference.

You claim that "
Diamond needed not to tell Sara and Norman that they lied, he merely provided facts that would have made the scenario of Biafran soldiers killing Eastern minorities that they ( Norman and Sara) painted, impossible."
Re-ea-ally??! How did he make the scenario impossible? shocked huh

One of the things the scholars had criticised in Diamond's book was the fact that he ignored the minority tribes in Biafra such as "...the Efiks, Ijaws, Ibibios, Annangs, Kalabaris, Ogojas and other minority tribes who had asked repeatedly asked for independence from the Ibos since the 1950s....But the Biafran leadership denied them the same right it claimed for itself visàvis the rest of Nigeria, the right of self-determination and protection from victimization..."

What was Diamond's response? "However, my correspondents consider most important the position of minority peoples in Biafra, an issue which they charge me with avoiding. It is relevant to note that Julius Nyerere, the President of multiethnic Tanzania, circulated a brilliant and comprehensive memorandum analyzing the overall Nigeria-Biafra crisis at the September 1969 meeting of the O.A.U., in which he did not mention the Biafran minorities at all. One can hardly charge this humane statesman with neither ignorance or callousness. We can only conclude that Nyerere felt that their situation accorded with his brief for Biafran self-determination...!" Wow! shocked So Diamond took his cue from Nyerere's mistake. Because Nyerere did not mention them, he too decided to ignore the fact that they existed. What a shallow excuse!!

Yet in your own view this was Diamond exhibiting "maturity." I beg to differ!

The fact that Mr. A had one kind of experience during the war, does not make Mr. B's experience invalid. Every single side lost people and relatives during that war. cry Read Okey Ndibe's book "MY BIAFRAN EYES: AN ACCOUNT OF THE NIGERIAN CIVIL WAR." As a child, he personally witnessed events that took place in Biafra. Yet, his own story as told in his words, is different from Elechi Amadi's memories of the war which he wrote about in his book "Sunset in Biafra."

So many books have been written about the civil war and many more are yet to be written. Taking one man's book (i.e. Diamond), as the sole authority on the war without examining other perspectives or regarding anyone's whose perspective differs from your own, as irrelevant is totally unfair. What lessons have we all learnt from the war?

Learning is a lifelong event. There is always cause and effect, action and reaction in every single occurrence. Try to learn and differentiate between propaganda and reality. undecided

Am done. sad
Politics › Re: Biafra Did Not Surrender – Achuzia by laudate:
SOUNDKING:
Aburi and the war which came first?...
Na wah oh! You know the answer already...so why are you asking the question? Get to the point and stop wasting time! undecided
Politics › Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate: 10:33pm On Aug 09, 2015
aresa:
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What's the meaning of your useless essay? The company said they charged N10 million so if you and the state have documented evidence that they took N78 million, counter them or keep quiet...
Please point out what is 'useless' about the essay.You claim the company said it is 10 million? So why is the procurement agency stating that it is 78 million? Explain the disparity! shocked
Politics › Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate:
aresa:
You said 78million for a website upgrade by a public servant for his personal website is a colossal amount of money and I can't see how to justify it unless he's a businessman.... but we all know he's not a businessman so you are still categorically saying 78 million is unjustifiable.

You have zero idea what the contract detail was or what was ordered and what was delivered so you can not offer any kind of rational or credible views regarding this issue, at least not till all the fact comes out.


The so called man of the moment did not award the contract, a state agency did so direct your concerns to that state agency.

It's like asking GEJ to answer and go to jail for the anomalies in all his federal ministries and agencies...

It doesn't cost much to formulate rational and intelligent views about issues...
Bros, na God I take beg you... stop trying to defend the indefensible. cry

Not all those who visit nairaland are tech-illiterates. Upgrading a website is NOT rocket science. Ask any software developer, programmer or IT-savvy person. Even the big tech giants such as SAP, Oracle, Microsoft, Google etc, would provide you with tech assistance to carry out such a project for less than one-third of the amount quoted up here. In the past few years, there has been a proliferation of tools, kits and info., for developing and upgrading websites that do not cost an arm and a leg. Even cyber-security solutions are increasingly more affordable these days! So where are these huge numbers coming from??! angry

I don't want to go into details, but saying you spent 78 million to upgrade a website, is like saying you spent 750,000 naira to charter a cab for 3 hours, to go by road from Lagos to Ibadan, in a painted city taxi. Is that taxi gold-plated? shocked shocked

The agency you mentioned is owned by the state govt, and takes directives from the governor. Do all ministries not have a commissioner or permanent secretary that is accountable to the governor?? So who is fooling whom? undecided

78 million is NOT small pocket change, that can be hidden as a line item in the balance sheet. Ask any accountant.

They stated in their description that the 78 million was for "upgrade of a website." Those were their own words. Not mine.

So why are you trying to act as if those figures and description were pulled out of thin air?? shocked
Politics › Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate: 4:04pm On Aug 08, 2015
socialmediaman:
Custom made ERP websites could cost as much as $3 million dollars or more. They are deployed in hospitals, schools and universities, government, oil companies, banks, multinationals, construction etc. A major Bank in Nigeria once paid N4 billion Naira to develop their website which runs an ERP software on it
That bank was daft, with a capital D! shocked shocked angry Oracle, SAP, Microsoft etc, all sell software applications that can do these things. Worst case, ask them to customise a few areas for you, if you want to integrate it to your website. It would cost you a little extra, but it can be done. Get enterprise licenses for all users. If you go to India, you can get software developers that will build these things for you at a far more reasonable cost, than what you have quoted here!

ERP solutions are one dime-a-dozen these days,and you want me to believe a bank paid 4 billion for their own? Haba! There is more to this story than you are telling!
Politics › Re: Fashola's N78 M Scandal Trending On Twitter by laudate: 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2015
mekaboy:
My friend shut ur trap and stop talking rubbish. Do u think there r no developers here?

Which website in Nigeria cost 15m to develop talkless of 78m?
Abeg, help me ask dem! I cringed when I heard someone trying to justify the 78 million spent, because they had spent some millions on building websites in their office! Chai!

Any website that costs more than 5 million to build is a huge scam! sad

I just hope it is a typo. Maybe they wanted to type, 78,000 or 780,000 or even 7.8 million, and they put in a few extra zeros by mistake!
Politics › Re: Video: Angry Biafran Youths Destroying The Nigerian Flag by laudate:
onenaira3:
See this buff00n you mean a fight that took more than a day to cease and you talking about the disperse. Disperse KO, disperse no. Even from what I heard, the area is still on high alert. They are just waiting on una police to try rubbish again so they can recontinue where they stopped. You're not even ashamed you police couldn't even stop a bunch of men with sticks and their bare hands despite carrying gun, even your soldiers took awhile to stop them. You're not even ashamed. No wonder that zoo is a disgrace and boko haram is knocking the sh1t out of your military. Pathetic.

Oya loudmouth. Na only online you have balls. I'll repeat it again, they are not hiding, you know exactly where they are, go take am one on one. We dare you
Now, when the military police, anti-riot officers and soldiers are drafted to Aba to quell this disturbance and they use violent means to do it, Uwazuruike and others like him will start alleging police brutality. angry

Have you forgotten what happened in Owerri in 2005, when Movement for the Actualization of Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB) disrupted social and business activities in Anambra, Ebonyi, Edo, Delta and Imo states as well as along the busy Onitsha-Enugu Expressway in Anambra State?? Anti-riot battalion were drafted into those areas. MASSOB went round crying that about five of its members were killed, even as 20 others were arrested in Anambra and Delta states respectively. cry

Even till today, your people still keep talking about the lives lost in Biafra which happened more than 40 years ago. When will you learn that conflict does not breed anything good?? shocked shocked huh
Politics › Re: Lagos State Orders 60 Ferries by laudate: 3:27pm On Aug 08, 2015
Andybaby:
No ferries service from Ajah to Ikoyi yet?
I don't know if that route now exists. I know there is a boat service from Lekki and Maroko in Victoria Island to Ikoyi. But from Ajah to Ikoyi? i can't tell.
Travel › Re: Journey To Waterside by laudate: 3:20pm On Aug 08, 2015
I need to get a boat from Lekki or Marina in Lagos, that can take me to Iwopin in Ogun state.
Travel › Re: Fatima Abba-Gwadabe The First Commercial Pilot In Kano by laudate: 3:12pm On Aug 08, 2015
adaxxy:
@laudate God bless you for the pictures, first female was mrs agbelusi she was with aero but now with carverton helicopters,so the first picture is Tolu ita,then the twins hassana and husenaa,then faith odushola and her youger sister too is mercy odushola not in the picture we also have another Tolu but in Arik now ,florence,joan abasi, indidi ,Yop wals,olufunmi sanni but now in carverton helicopters trust me they are all aero Contractors of Nigeria female breeds.
Thanks. I had even written about them a few months back on another thread. Please see the link here: https://www.nairaland.com/2158816/fatima-abba-gwadabe-first-muslim/2#30987755

Captain Tolulope Ita, is a 37 years old lady from Ogun State married to an Akwa Ibom State man. They have a family of seven. She schooled in Lagos & attended Igbobi Girls High School and later proceeded to the University of Ilorin, where she got a degree in Computer Science after which she proceeded to the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology (NCAT) Zaria for flying courses and graduated as a pilot and started working with Aero Contractors.

While in Aero, she did her Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL) in the United States; that is a prequalification before becoming a captain and it costs a lot of money; between $5,000 and $10,000. And also did some training in auditing as well as a course in Flight Operations Management and she is presently the Fleet Manager of the Dash-8 aircraft in Aero Contractors.

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/05/mysteries-surrounding-flying-made-become-pilot/
Captain Faith Odushola-Boegheim (the first and youngest female to become a captain on Aero’s Boeing 737 jet), started flying in 2000 after studying in South Africa for three years and began her career with Aero Contractors in 2002.

She is married to a pilot with a little girl.

Senior First Officers Hassana and Huseina Edili-Ogaji, have a combined total flying experience of seven years, nearly five of them with Aero Contractors.
http://www.jetlifenigeria.com/2013/07/aeros-fly-girls/
Imoleayo Adebule age 23 years, is one of Nigeria’s youngest female pilots. Intelligent, daring, and confident are three words that best describe the tenacity with which she passed through one of the most complex schools in the world – Flying School, to obtain her license as a Commercial Pilot.

Imoleayo has excelled in a profession that is not only averse to people of her gender, but quite difficult even to people of the opposite sex. Having graduated at the top of her class at the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology, Kaduna, she now works with Aero Contractors where she is making giant strides
. http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/01/05/a-young-woman-soaring-with-wings-meet-nigerian-commercial-pilot-imoleayo-adebule-flying-the-skies-at-23/
Blessing Liman was commissioned as a Combat Flying Officer alongside 126 others who finished the Direct Short Service Course 2010/2011 Cadets of the 325 Ground Training Group at the Nigerian Air Force Base, Kaduna. Present at the winging ceremony (badge decoration) was the then Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice Marshal Mohammad Dikko Umar who described her training as a 'very laudable achievement'.

Before her winging on Friday, 27th of April, 2012, she and other pilot officers (she was the only female) went for 12 months intensive flight training in various nations of the world -United States, Greece, Belarus, United Kingdom, Pakistan and Egypt. The Federal Government spent billions of naira on the training as $650,000 was spent on each trainee. The team came up with 14, well-trained fighter jet pilots. She enlisted into the Nigerian Air Force in July 2011 and was commissioned on the 9th of December, 2011. After her commissioning, she was nominated for the 2012 THISDAY Award for Excellence.


http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/21780/33/blessing-liman-nigerias-first-female-military-pilo.html
Captain Bolaji Agbelusi undoubtedly is a woman of history. She is the 8th woman pilot produced in Nigeria, the 5th female captain in Nigeria aviation industry and the first female pilot in Africa to fly an all female crew. She started nursing the ambition of flying at age seven. Married to an Anglican priest for over a decade, she still keeps her home while actively flying.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200904280616.html
Captain Chinyere Kalu former MD of NCAT began her career in 1978; she obtained her private pilot license from the nation’s premier aviation college. She had, before this, attended the prestigious Leadership and Citizen Course (SS88) Sea School, Lagos in 1973. burning with passion for excellence and self-development, Kalu, who is a member of the African Women Leaders Think Tank Group, has over the years, undergone so many leadership training programmes at home and abroad. She is also a Member of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (MFR) 2006; Member, Nigerian Women Achievers HALL OF FAME; African International Achievers’ Merit Award 2007; Rare Gems Professional Achievements Award 2007; Member, Nigeria’s 50 Greatest Women of Democratic Administration of Ghana 2012. http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/captain-chinyere-o-kalu-nigerias-first-female-pilot/

She was also trained as a Private and Commercial Pilot, SP.12 Batch, NCAT, Zaria in 1978. She later qualified for her Air Transport Pilot License (ATPL) Course with Bolivia Aviation, Memphis, and Tennessee in USA. She was also trained in Aircraft Accident Investigation and Prevention Course, at Federal Aviation Administration, Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. She was also trained as Flight Instructor’s Rating, Civil Aviation Authority, Oxford, United Kingdom. And then she was also at Commercial Pilot License (CPL/IR), NCAT, Zaria.

- See more at: http://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/day-became-pilot-onyenucheya-kalu/
Women from different parts of Nigeria have performed well in aviation.
Travel › Re: Fatima Abba-Gwadabe The First Commercial Pilot In Kano by laudate:
This issue has been discussed extensively on another thread. It is old news. There have been several female pilots in the past. There are now 127 female pilots in Nigeria, according to informed sources.

Aero Contractors has one of the largest female crew in West Africa. undecided undecided http://www.jetlifenigeria.com/2013/07/aeros-fly-girls/

Read the story here: https://www.nairaland.com/2158816/fatima-abba-gwadabe-first-muslim

On the other hand, Blessing Liman is the first female military pilot from the North. She is from Kaduna State. Liman becomes the first female combatant pilot not only in Nigeria, but in the entire West African sub-region and the Nigerian Air Force.

BECOMING NAF'S FIRST FEMALE COMBATANT PILOT

Liman was commissioned as a Combat Flying Officer alongside 126 others who finished the Direct Short Service Course 2010/2011 Cadets of the 325 Ground Training Group at the Nigerian Air Force Base, Kaduna. Present at the winging ceremony (badge decoration) was the then Chief of Air Staff, Air Vice Marshal Mohammad Dikko Umar who described her training as a 'very laudable achievement'.

Before her winging on Friday, 27th of April, 2012, she and other pilot officers (she was the only female) went for 12 months intensive flight training in various nations of the world -United States, Greece, Belarus, United Kingdom, Pakistan and Egypt. The Federal Government spent billions of naira on the training as $650,000 was spent on each trainee. The team came up with 14, well-trained fighter jet pilots. She enlisted into the Nigerian Air Force in July 2011 and was commissioned on the 9th of December, 2011. After her commissioning, she was nominated for the 2012 THISDAY Award for Excellence. http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/21780/33/blessing-liman-nigerias-first-female-military-pilo.html

Politics › Re: US Did Not Give Buhari Any Oil Thieves' List - Punch by laudate: 2:35pm On Aug 08, 2015
PassingShot:
And is there any reason to believe Punch over and above the presidency?
And has the Presidency come out to refute the Punch report? shocked huh

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