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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:12pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Lemme take a cue from the thread's arch-guardian of experience, Sir Icon4s himself... wink

On Nwakali Kelechi, I have always said that he is the future of our midfield and most likely heir to Mikel's throne as Super Eagles midfield generalissimo. But for now, I think he should wrap up his season with maastricht firstly as there's no need to rush and we are well covered in Midfield. After his first professional season, we should start giving him major invites for official games.

But for friendlies, well... He can still be called up even before the season is over. I foresee Nwakali and Osimhen breaking into the Super Eagles shortly before Russia 2018. smiley
Thank you
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:11pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Trying to force his way through. Russia to Onyekuru while Celtic is on the table is equivalent to refusing to sell him. The club tried to sideline the agent. Left the young man with no choice but fight the only way he knows how. The window is closing.
Brother, what if the Celtic or Russia deal falls through. He will now have issues with the board and his team mates. Careers have been destroyed via this pathway o
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:06pm On Jan 26, 2017
Icon79:
Wynchi grin
No o, just my observation oo grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:04pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Iwobi = 10
Iheanacho = 9 (Pace against Algeria was blistering.

I say we invite Aluko as a sub for the ten role.

I still pick Musa Mohammed for the right back role. He was impressive under Salisu Yusuf.

The left back role is the problem but Echiejile did well on the last game and I think merits to play the 3 role.
Funny enough I feel nacho would be more productive playing a free roaming role. I would love to see that. Cos this issue of striking by force, we have other strikers. Nice suggestions though
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:02pm On Jan 26, 2017
Icon79:
I think Senegal would win this AFCON. I was most disappointed with CIV but the Senegalese are finally getting it today.

I can't wait to see them dominate the "indomitable" Lions on Saturday grin
Cameroon will defeat them on penalties
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:51pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Don't let theGoodJoe pick up those legendary gloves because of you oooo.... Loollll
grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:50pm On Jan 26, 2017
Anyways, this is for the house, I need your opinion on this, who should play 9, 10, 2 and 3 for the super eagles as things stands. I do not need past glory. I need current form. Also do you think the Nwakali kid in maastricht is ready for maybe the super eagles??
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:46pm On Jan 26, 2017
Why can't mancity sign Onyekuru na, cos to me sterling no wash jare
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:44pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

Onyekuru is trying to force his way through. The transfer window is closing. If he keeps quiet at this time, the time will pass. He can not miss the opportunity with Celtic's offer on the table.

The club should respect themselves and do the right thing. Why help another agent steal him?
Hmmmm, no smoke without fire, let him calm down. They can't force to Where he does not want to go
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:43pm On Jan 26, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
What is Iwobi doing playing golf with Ola Aina?
Maybe to convince him to join us grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:40pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
To be honest Sir.... I'll say that Nigeria would have possibly made the semi-finals. smiley

I am not too sure of the trophy had Nigeria showed up but our WCQ form would have continued to a large extent at this Afcon. DR Congo is a case study though they are a little more cohesive while our team is still young but definitely one of the strongest in-form teams in Africa.

At this Afcon, only few teams are better than our team for now and would have stood in ouir way at the semi-finals stage and these include DR congo, Senegal, Morocco, and Egypt.

Cameroun duelled in a less tougher group hence their qualification for the quarters but can also go all the way as you cannot tell with the indomitable lions sometimes.

Ghana.... Apart from Andre and Gyan, the rest don't cut it for now. Never write them off completely shaa...

Cote d'Ivoire... They are back to that "just a good team, nothing spectacular" tag. They lack firepower upfront but have a really "strong midfield" of "physical monsters" like Serey Die, Franck Kessie and even Seri... Not surprised they crashed out.

So in conclusion, I don't think the afcon inexperience of Nacho, Iwobi, Simon and Balogun would have mattered. They would have made great impressions and ended up in the top 3 at least.

But we aren't there so... I'm just waiting for who will be crowned Kings of Africa.

And I am keen to know if Senegal can overcome Cameroun. (A lot at stake in this game coz of the Joseph1013-Safarigirl-Lakesidepapa business deal...) grin
Good to know, also who do you think can finally play 10 for Nigeria. At least Ndidi can play 4. I think we need more creative midfielders cos seems the team has too many wingers
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:37pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
I doubt Onyekuru will feel bad if Eupen wanted to use his agent (note history if trust) and send him to Everton.

Eupen wants to send him to Russia against his and his agents wishes. They want to go to Scotland and there is a good offer. He is not raising his shoulder but concerned about his career. At Scotland, he is close to the EPL.
Coming to social media to me causes more trouble than it solves. Who even knows Eupen by the way. All we are saying is that he should have some respect for the club that is all
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:07pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
“I'M GOOD AND I'M GETTING BETTER” –
SUCCESS NEARING WATFORD RETURN





Watford’s Isaac Success is nearing a return to
action from a hamstring injury, the forward has
confirmed.

The Nigerian who joined the Hornets from
Granada for a club record fee has made just two
substitute appearances in the last 15 matches
and has only started one game this season
(against Middlesbrough), no thanks to a
troublesome hamstring.

He is hoping to impress for the Vicarage Road
giants having endured a torrid time on the
sidelines.

"I'm good and I'm getting better," Success told
club website. "I'm hoping to train with the team
on Monday.

“It's frustrating as I'm trying to make my name in the Premier League.

"I haven't had the chance to impress. Everyone
knows my ability but I've got more to offer to the fans and the team.”

He also dismissed insinuations that his injury
worries was caused by some African curse.
"I heard that," he continued. "I'm a Christian and I really don't believe in that.

“Injury comes when you are a professional and
most of the time hard work can help prevent it.

“I've really started working harder than before to prevent injuries. I believe I'm coming back
stronger and stronger than before."


Source: http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4055/main/2017/01/26/31978592/im-good-and-im-getting-better-success-nearing-watford-return
Success and injury shaa
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:04pm On Jan 26, 2017
@supernerd, if Nigeria had qualified for this nation's cup, how well do you think we would have fared
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 6:01pm On Jan 26, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Ohhh... You didn't notice the "shoulders-up" thing after that goal where he refused to pass to any of his team-mates but went messi-like solo? Loolll

I see a strong hint of ego and pride in Henry's game at Eupen. He knows he is their best player followed closely by sylla so I am not surprised about the "shoulders-up" attitude.

I hope the matter is resolved shaa... He does deserve a better league but he's going about things kinda wrongly.
He needs to be careful o before they will bring out one clause in his contract and kasala go burst
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 8:33am On Jan 26, 2017
Kog45:
Yes truly coz Iheanacho but if i may ask who is real poser of Nigeria football between Iheanacho and Iwobi.
Nacho na, though I want him to go on loan, I really need him to go to a team where he can develop as he gets regular playing time so he will not become another Bojan
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 8:27am On Jan 26, 2017
Kog45:
Yes good defenders,not only on d bench but good ones that w give d regulars tough competition.

I always like to re watch most Nigeria matches,i can say from Algeria match,w still have a long way to go in our defence,good right full back needed and work need to be done with our central defence especially Ekong who has to build his confidence,not forgetting most experience Eagles defender Elderson Echiejele,who need to always show consistencies in his game.
I Thut I was the only one who observed that, one of the few reasons why I want no pressure on the team, we need to play teams who hold on to the ball and can attack very well so we can assess them more. Also need us to concede early in one of the friendlies to see how we react. Our bench defensive wise Is nothing to write home about. And I think Balogun and Troost to play more games together.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 8:22am On Jan 26, 2017
Lazyerudite:
I initially pointed it out and it is not one but two nations cup, however they will get there. The game against Cameroon will show us a lot, I also want us to remember that we need defenders on our bench just in case someone gets injured
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:07am On Jan 26, 2017
Icon79:
Based on what I have seen at the AFCON, my top 5 would be (in this particular order):

Senegal
DR Congo
Ghana
Egypt
Tunisia

The jury is still out on Nigeria. I will find it difficult to rank a team that didn't qualify for the AFCON amongst the top 5 teams in Africa. Two games does not a team make.

O pari
I initially pointed it out and it is not one but two nations cup, however they will get there. The game against Cameroon will show us a lot, I also want us to remember that we needed defenders on our bench just in case someone gets injured
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 7:03am On Jan 26, 2017
ucheo:
Can u people stop this nonsense Guadiola and mancity talk and focus on the essence of the thread. Super eagles and Russia world cup.
Of a thruth people don't have time to read all these needless arguments that derail the tread and portray us as jobless people.
Let's stick to the super eagles.issues. this thread has help us to follow them closely
Errrrrm, the essence of the arguement still boils down to the success of Nacho grin
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 2:10pm On Jan 25, 2017
chrisooblog:
i'm saying even in missing 2 back to back AFCON one cannot conclude our team is not there without looking at extenuating circumstances. cameroon failed to qualify for 2012 and 2013 AFCON but qualified comfortably for the world cup in brazil. yes our team is still growing but at this moment we match up favourably against the best on the continent if and when this generation of players reach their potential we will be talking of them matching if not surpassing our 90s golden generation
For me, I will wait for the true test and judge then, I know they will get better but I will not put the cart before the horse
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 1:36pm On Jan 25, 2017
zicky:
you did not answer his question, he asked is Togo, guinea bussau, Gabon are better than Nigeria because they are in Afcon, Yes or No
Did they make it to the last two editions of the tournamenthuh
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 1:33pm On Jan 25, 2017
chrisooblog:
@lazyerudite i think you are underestimating the current strength of the super eagles. yes we failed to qualify for this year's AFCON but like icon said we were slightly unlucky against the egyptians a last minute loss of concentration cost us a win in kaduna. mind you these same egyptians beat a highly fancied ghana in the WC qualifiers. yes congo and sudan beat us but you didn't add that we later rallied to defeat them. don't let failure to qualify for AFCON be the main determinant of our team's level remember we didn't qualify for the 2012 edition but went on to win the next one
My point has not been one but missing two in tow says a lot. Our time will come, until then let's not put pressure on a growing team.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 1:29pm On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
You are judging with just one encounter. That is what I am trying to point against. We need a general assessment. Recall that same Egypt beat Ghana 2-0 in November.

Morocco beat Ivory Coast last night you would now rate Morocco higher than Ivory Coast right?
All those teams you mentioned all qualified for nation's cup and did not miss 2 consecutive tournaments. Our time will come
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 11:04am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
I am sure u know Chad's withdrawal dealt a great blow to our qualification. We lost only one game which was against Egypt and you recall how we conceded the equalizer to Egypt in Kaduna. Nigeria were simply unlucky in that qualifiers.

That is why I have not made my judgment based on AFCON and AFCON qualifiers alone. Ok, Algeria and Ivory Coast are out of the quarter finals of the on-going AFCON would you now say they are no longer among the top 8 rated teams in Africa?
These are just excuses, maybe Salah should have buried the last minute chance he had so we would not have to discuss this issue of qualifies again. They drew with us in Naija and defeated and outplayed us in Egypt. We can come up with all the excuses of this world but I will still maintain we were not good enough
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:56am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
We are not there yet. I agree. But being there is a function of where you expect to be.
Going by where we expect to be we are not there yet but going by countries we are competing with along the line to being were we expect to be we are there among the top 5.

Yes, we have missed the last 2 AFCONs, henn but other African nations would not wish to be put in the same group with Nigeria in any competition.


Nigeria missed the last 2 AFCONs but we were never down the ladders in African football. Name your top5 teams now and I would analyze the strength of those teams against Nigeria's. I am not just talking about individual talents but the TEAM as a whole.
Before our recent victories against zambia and Algeria, We were being called super chicken because why, we played lethargic football and teams like Congo ran us raggered, we even lost to Sudan so I think you still think we are super. We lost some respect over the years and even South Africa has started stepping up their game. So that fear factor about Nigeria had be removed until recently. That still does not take away the fact that we are still premature. Rohr has not tasted defeat so we can't say how mentally strong his team is. Time has a way of sorting things out
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:49am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
So Guinea-Bissau, Togo and Zimbabwe are better than Nigeria ba? Because they are good enough to play this year's AFCON abi?
If you can't come out of a qualifying group that has Chad, Tanzania and Egypt who by the way were hit by turmoil in their country then how can you be rated as top dog. When that group was first made I am sure a lot of Nigerians were sure of qualification. We are not as good as you are portraying it. The FIFA ranking might not be fair but it gives us an insight to what is on ground.
We did not qualify because we were not good enough, I think the next draws has Libya, south Africa and another country. We have to qualify first then we take it up from there. The second leg of the match against Egypt exposed us seriously and made me calm down. Togo and Zimbabwe with all due respect qualified by defeating teams like Nigeria so we were simply not good enough
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:25am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
I am sure Algeria will make your top 5.

But did we not beat them 3-1 in Uyo?

I am sure you know why Nigeria didn't make this AFCON.
We were simply not good enough, but now I think we are improving
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:24am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
I am sure Algeria will make your top 5.

But did we not beat them 3-1 in Uyo?

I am sure you know why Nigeria didn't make this AFCON.
Again you have missed my point, you defeated Algeria wan Zambia which is by no means a small feat but don't let us get carried away, we have missed two nations cup consecutively and u still think we are top dog presently, players don't win competitions, teams do. We have players but we are still building a team. Don't get carried away by those victories, we have a tougher opponent in Cameroon who usually have their way with us. As I said I am hoping our progress will continue, even this team on the rise in yet to come back from being a goal or two down. With time they will blend and be formidable, we are even still searching for fullbacks ooo. Me, I will be patient. Top 5? No, can we get there, definitely
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 10:06am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
Are you saying that countries like Guinea-Bissau, Togo and Zimbabwe are better than Nigeria? That's why I said general assessment. Eg Algeria and Ivory Coast are out of the AFCON but they remain on my top 10 list.

And it is not an issue "we must include Nigeria". AFCON or no AFCON Nigeria remains a power house in African football. We are assessing the teams based on their capability and strength. Eg forget that Algeria and Ivory are out of the AFCON they are still teams to be feared as far as African football in concerned.
It is just like not making the champions league and you want to claim that you are one of Europe's best, I did not say win but at least participate, let's stop this idea that we are there but instead pray we keep improving, we have missed two consecutive nation's cup and you still want to rate us as top fivehuh Time has a way of sorting things out
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 9:57am On Jan 25, 2017
Icon4s:
How can you replace Nigeria for Mali? What has Mali achieved in the last 15 years or even in the last 3years? They don't have the kind of quality we have. Sentiments aside Nigeria is in top 5 in Africa.
You claim for us to be top 5 and yet we could not make it to the Nation's cuphuhhuh Going through my comment you would realise that i said we have players on the rise but we are still building a team. For now we are no there yet and I will not deceive myself but wait patiently for our time. For me this is our time to build so saying we are top 5 for me is premature, I don't live on past glory, but would rather face the present and hope for the future. If you were talking of the super falcons then I would agree but for the super eagles, I would not ready them top 5 yet. We can start by qualifying for the world cup first
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Lazyerudite: 8:12am On Jan 25, 2017
Defending for some teams in the nation's cup has been terrible, an average disciplined side from Europe or Asia will give us Africans headache in the world cup. To me, Algeria has been the greatest culprits. I would like a friendly with Congolese and maybe Tunisia and later on Egypt. Oh, and I have to commend the celebration of the Congolese grin grin grin

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