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ArodewilliamsT:Spoken with honesty and a sense of purpose. I won't lie to you, I have been tempted to participate in tribal trolling on nairaland so often when I read some very wicked and senseless comments here. But I have come to the conclusion that the Internet comes with a great dose of disinhibition where the weight of comments are not seen in its true light. It creates the aura where people sit behind their computers and mobile phone and spew words yet impersonify their targets of tribes and people. That's what social-media brings. I troll on South Africans and ghanaians online for defence and pride of Nigeria far more than I can ever go offline. Matter of fact, there's a ghanaian girl in my neighbourhood who works for my friend and i can never bring myself to tell her 1/10th of what i tell her compatriots here. I think we lose the human touch each time we target someone or tribe here. Other than some mischief makers who do trolling on Igbo/yoruba just for the hell of it, most of the others can't carry the tribal banner so high offline. I still think a true federalism could be great just like before the civil war. |
nisai:lolz, I don't like her in that fashion....no way. Kind of liking her persona and restlessness which , I must confess ,added a little sexual fun to it. |
tonychristopher:you too. Thanks for your time and contributions. |
[s] dialfa:[/s] Off to the dustbin you go. When you reconcile your bitterness with reality then you will be taken seriously. Have a nice time in your sojournment of identity quest in foreign shores. I can understand your bitterness ![]() |
nisai:Lolz. I never really had a beef with her o. Just trolling for fun then. I actually like her and wish you would add a face to her persona so that I could reconcile my wild physical imagination of her. But then women have their ways. |
tonychristopher:1) I never infered my submission were general. I always make my assertion with "some". I never spoke for the generality of any group, the furthest I will go is to relay feelings of most within that group. You came along with a super sensitivity to accuse me of speaking for the entire group. Check all the threads on nairaland on the delta/rivers Igbo origin, they are more or less what I have opined here. Seems the weight of truth/reality is too heavy for you to bear. 2) Why should I be scared of igbos? Common. Matter of fact, I love the Igbos from their food (ofé onugbo/oha to nkwobi and abacha) to their social behaviour and their aggressive and persistent stance to live 3) they are indeed special like every other group in Nigeria. 4) I honestly will wish for that to be true in the context of the eastern/western igbo relations. |
tonychristopher:1) You might want to put a lid on the emotional outlet 2 ) your in - laws' choice isn't the yardstick of measuring the feelings of the entire people. Please I beg of you, do not be emotionally hypocritical with a dose of sentimentalism. Eastern igbos are still berating the presidency for lack of "igbo" appointment even when some Delta igbo sons are there. When Anioma state was on the verge of creation with the proposal that Onitsha be its capital, Eastern igbos kicked against it. That would have permanently sealed your western brothers to their kins in the east. When Pat Utomi ran for president in 2007, Eastern igbos cried out he isn't a real igbo. Well I don't hear much "fake" yoruba about their kwara and Kogi brothers. There are a good number of Delta igbos who would easily jump ship to the other side and others who won't. The Asaba massacre and eastern betrayal is still a sour point. And what the hell is Delta Igbo or fake igbo when their dialect is even more igbo than most places in ebony state and some part of enugu. Biafra is a legitimate call for igbo active participation in the sociopolitical scheme of things in Nigeria. Secession is a long, long dream. |
tonychristopher:I do not make the mistake of speaking for a group of people as their mouthpiece. But I have travelled and lived amongst different groups in Nigeria. I know the damage and political expediency that the Igbos of the south - South endured and subsequently adjusted to a life of near-duplicity and the fake - igbo lebel that is often chanted in the south east. Do you deny this ? In 1999 I was at Nsuka when Crush soft drink was the rave of the moment as Orijin now is, well the management decided to sack non-igbos as a measure for cutting cost. An Asaba man was sacked!!! Also during my NYSC in Enugu, I met many igbos of Rivers origin and a considerable number will deny their igbo-ness so lamely it hurts. I think it is all a cowardly resolution to paddle "smoothly" in the polygamous waters of the NigerIan marriage. |
pazienza:With Igbos running their business in virtually allot region of the country? With Igbos investing in landed and real estate in both north south east and west? Our economic and cultural ties isn't as different as you would wish. There's a sizable Muslim population in the southwest and in Edo state in South south and there is a sizeable number of Christians in the north and middle belt as well. You speak of a Biafra along igbo speaking areas but you should know there are many in Rivers igbo who will not hold to such sentiments and that area is key if you would achieve your dream of secession. Also many in the calabar/ uyo and akwaibom axis will still fear igbo domination in any eventuality. That's why I say the marriage is complex. If the north decides to secede I think some regions in the middle belt might not tag along too and if the south west is to secede, the kwara and Kogi brothers might still be a puzzle to solve, not mentioning the pocket of ijaw settlers all around the creeks in the south west. I still see a one Nigeria stronger and better with more international role to play in Africa and the world. |
pazienza: I think we have become so mired in the political and economic -cum -cultural waters of our complicated marriage to sever ties .If I may dare to ask, how do you split Nigeria? |
pazienza:Yes the British union is very legitimate but Scotland is still a country in its own right as is England. Yes Nigeria was a creation by the British for its administrative convenience, but as soon as Nigeria had her independence and our leaders agreed to stay in the union, it became a Nigerian creation by acquiescence. The moment former India had her independence from Britain, they split into India , Bangladesh and Pakistan. As did Tanzania and another african country whose name just wouldn't drop on my fingers at this moment. These countries chose to sever the ties of colonial bonding. But Nigeria remained. Nigeria therefore is our own doing. |
Observant:The union between Scotland and the UK or Britain isn't a federation, it is union of quasi independent countries who have their own governments at some level. A federation is an often more rigid and difficult alliance with a lot of sovereignty ceded to the central government. E.g The US and Nigeria. I am an advocate of true federalism ,but then again the proliferation of the states have made them too small and non - viable. But I want to see less power and money ceded to Abuja and with all legislative arm becoming part time. That will kill off the zeal of every Tom wanting to be a politician and becoming popular overnight. If we have more economic activity at the state level and less power to Abuja, political activities will be shifted to the states and will reduce tribal scheming at the center. The problem with Nigeria is that we don't really run a federation. Everything is tied to Abuja. How can the roads be fixed when Abuja has to give the nod? How can the governors not play a blame game when they wait for monthly allocation from the federal government? I could go on. But for a start, state should be given more power and responsibilities with the local government becoming independent. |
Curlieweed:1) The main "plank" of my argument for a better and one Nigeria isn't based on the geographical fixation of SE to SS and SW to MB. That's putting it in an overly simplistic form. 2) Resources alone do not make for super power 3) It is unfortunate you stopped believing in Nigeria as you got older and wiser 4) Nigeria has a dominant culture easily discernible at home and abroad. It may not be singular as you you wish but it is score for a nation this diversed . 5) I am aware of the problems that bedevil Nigeria and they aren't insurmountable. I think tribalism cripples Nigeria more than any government ineptitude. With everything Nigeria has undergone in political turmoil, tribal unrest and political uncertainty, why has there been no concrete effort to disintegrate and disolve the union? |
nisai:My Oga!!! What's happening? ![]() |
Duru1:One can still be a Nigerian and yet hold onto his tradition and ethnicity. It's a balanced approach that has worked in other countries that are more diversed than Nigeria . You cannot fault Kofi on his statement if you take it into full perspective. Before and during the last presidential elections, Africa stood literally still in anticipation of the aftermath. The world held its breath as the promise of violence and unrest seem certain no matter the outcome. And Kofi came to Nigeria and in a keynote address to Nigerian leaders, he made a comment that is often absent in the consciousness of Nigerians and our leaders: "We are more important and carry more influence than we care to admit or even see" Some of our leaders do know this but perhaps they shy from such enormous responsibility. Kofi 's statement wasn't a "feel-good" cometary, it was to draw to our attention the effect our decisions have in all of Africa. |
FTBOY:True word bro! Our people go to Benin republic and Togo to import cars because Lagos port is over crowded and resultantly costlier and takes more time time to process goods. If other ports are opened up with the dredging of river niger as an inland port, the economy of Nigeria will quadruple with employment souring. There's an international cargo airport in Asaba and it's in the right direction. |
yorubatic:lolz with you stop cracking me up with laughter here!!! You ooze of a dark humour. ![]() I see you're of the southeast or Igbo and you use a yoruba moniker to do tribal trolling? Is that right? I'm not yoruba, can't even speak the language beyond monosyllabic mumblings. But I like its people, they add to the rich heritage of this country. I have an in law in Brasil, sometimes I phone him to have his host know that they have Nigerians as indigenous people of Brazil and their culture is of Nigeria too. Isn't that something to be proud of? In international politics, if harnessed, it is called soft power. And look at the Igbos, I can understand its sense of humour and language from Nollywood which has showcased Nigeria to the world and has caught the attention of CNN and Hollywood. The Gambia has even made igbo an official language in that west african country. And when I think of all the human and material investment in lagos and other parts of the country by the Igbos, I see a people who love diversity and adventure. All I see is a country with people who can dominate the world. Igbos and yorubas as frenemies no more no less. And all the hostilities are no more than chest beating and vain banter. Do not forget igbos have commissioners and legislators in lagos state. Follow the silent beat that carrys the true pulse of Nigeria. Do not be a shaft blown by every wind. |
coolitempa:Lol my dear, As long as Lagos is the economic capital and social hub of Nigeria, it will always be overcrowded - even if Biafrans go. That's why there should be a restructuring of Nigeria. Lagos can be decongested by opening other ports of the country which have access to the Atlantic ocean. But every capital - be it political or economica l- does have its price to pay. The residents of Makoko are of other west african citizens than Nigerians. And if you were to conduct a census on foreigners in Lagos, you'll be amazed at the findings. Other parts of the country should be opened up. Who says Nigeria can't have our own New York, Los Angeles and Washington or Pretoria, joburg and Cape Town? |
whitecloth:I have long suspected it. Some people deliberately fan the embers of tribal fires for political expediency. Since the advent of democracy -even before- the call for secession is often use to draw attention to particular region/tribe. I have been to the east, south - south and west and the ordinary man/woman on the street isn't that secession - minded. Nairaland paints a very distorting image of reality with this Biafra and zoo chanting. |
yorubatic:Letting Biafra or any region go is not up to you or me. IT IS UP TO NIGERIA. AND AS IT STANDS, IT IS TREASON TO DECLARE IT. So what would you suggest ? |
yorubatic:Seems to me your personal life has got more problems than Nigeria. Your hate is so empty and cheap you're obviously choking in it. Do not use the word coward except in description of yourself. For hate is cheaper than optimism. |
speak2emmalex:No one is denying the state of Nigeria. But I looked around and I discovered that secession won't solve the problem one bit. |
yorubatic:So much hate for a harmless post? Are you an inherent sadist or does evil reside in the corners of your soul eating your life away? No where in my post did I state my region, neither am I a Biafran. I'm just an ordinary Nigerian who sees beyond the smoke of tribal bigotry to the pinnacle of hope Nigeria will become. |
coolitempa:Lol, you will start by identifying them with the correct spelling of their name..... OK, the voice of a few cannot represent the majority. And there's is much more in secession than mere empty rhetoric of vagabonds who hide behind social media to scream Biafra. I'm yet to see one igbo leader who has called for a secession without any political calculation to it. Nor have I seen any machinery both political and economical being wielded to achieve Biafra. |
speak2emmalex:I beg to differ. Nigerian has been through the worst and has come out undone. All I see is silver lining and a hope of a giant whose birth was never a coincidence. Tell me what can break Nigeria that hasn't happened yet failed? |
coolitempa:This thread stands in clear opposition to your line of thinking. EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN A STRONG NIGERIA WITH GLOBAL MUSCLE AND POLITICAL CLOUT. |
It is disheartening to watch on social-media when Nigerians resort to tribal slurs and cruel jibes at one another at the slightest of chance. Ironically most of the jeering participants are often decent fellows offline who have in their close circles as friends people of other ethnic groups. Nigeria is a mere geographical expression of the British experiment , so opined a leading political figure. Perhaps it was so during the 1914 amalgamation. A casual look at the sociopolitical and economic evolution of Nigeria ever since will lead any honest observer to draw a very contrasting conclusion. For the Igbos do bound her neighbours in the south south in Abia and Imo and delta states and there has been a cultural and economical entwinement in this region. The Igbos also bound the north/Middlebelt in Enugu,Benue and Kogi states. The yorubas share a little ancestral linkage in delta and Edo states in the south south and are in an eternal sociopolitical blending with the north in kwara and Kogi states. All of Nigeria seems to meet in some critical geographical junction which suggests there's a bit of ALL OF US in ALL OF US. There is therefore no clear cut geographical or cultural demarcation for secession or breakup. Summarily, Nairaland has morphed into Africa's biggest online meeting hub with a very sizable number of foreigners both from Africa and beyond. Disappointingly, this is where Nigeria's most ignorant tribal bigots have chosen to launch their scathing and diversionary tribal slurs..... in front of the watching world. It should be clear that Nigeria is beyond breaking into tiny irrelevant geographical entities. The civil war failed; June 12 failed and has boko haram . The destiny of Nigeria -- the very premise by which it became is bigger than any single tribe. While we berate each other and call one another names, the rest of Africa watches with patience, waiting for us to solve our own riddle and lead the entire black race to its true dignity. The former United Nation's Secretary General, Kofi Annan in Abuja ,January in front of a world press made a daring declaration : " The destiny of Africa is in the hands of Nigeria". It is a sad commentary that foreigners have more faith and hope in Nigeria than Nigerians. When little minded, shortsighted tribal bigots ,with no sense beyond the relevance of their tribe, dance in a show of tribal shame, the effects resonate around Africa and the black diaspora. For every tribal cruelty spawned online on the ocean of our national existence, the waves of its aftereffects is felt in the depths of Africa. The world is aware of our shortcomings in corruption, government inefficiency but their faith is bigger than our dismays. Because there has been progress -not because of the bigots but in spite of them. Nigeria remains the only black Country with a fair chance of being a super power, but it will take a united and strong Nigeria to achieve this. The sooner we shed the last vestige of secession, the faster we shall begin to practice true coexistence with the option of disintegration so far off in the distance of genuine brotherhood. |
osothermal:Why do you challenge this? The ancient benin empire even stretched to the river niger, covering several other tribes. It doesn't make the urhobos, ijaws, western igbos benin. The ancient British empire covered India, Africa, and Hong Kong but it doesn't make them British. |
DrGroove:It's a ironic fact of life. |
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....initially when it started........we were being accommodating thinking we are being our brothers keepers ......but the spat of serious kidnapping in those areas a few years back led to a massive influx of ibos into our lands.....
....we cannot have a strong Nigeria which is divided against itself.....let the iboes be serious about their Biafra and go for it.....