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5minsmadness:
Wow.

I guess I was wrong.

Having an orgasm is your priority in life.

Who would have thought

Cococandy i have learnt something new about you today.

it has been my suspicion that most nairaland avowed feminists are a different specie altogether offline.

who would have thought a notorious feminist would prioritise orgasm. hehehehe.


after all those your sweet lectures of sexual interactions of giving selflessly, some feminist will still fail to reach orgasm when it is appllied, why: because most of them do not know the doctrine of sweet surrender and giving yourself to their man.


the act of selflessness and desire to please most be foremost in the mind of the man, while the woman should let go completely to the sweet abandonment of surrender.

Batman123:
Why are you wasting your time. He obviously lacks manners and you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Insulting someone's parents is really uncalled for.

thanks for reminding me to save data for better matters.

GHKWAME1:
You don't fool me, you like the attention.

You have lost me. The attention is nothing but an unsolicited bonus while taking a stand against parental jibes.

GHKWAME1:
^^^ All these fuckkery because you want to get into the pants if a bleached b1tch! Dogs will always be dogs.

lolzzzzzz!for what it is worth, i don't do online tango ; not for love, not for money.

i just have a high aversion to cheap trolling.

GHKWAME1:
Majority of Ghanaians feel the same way as you? When last did you visit Ghana to even conduct a poll? So who is now fuelish? Obviously your useless parents who will never reach the height of Mahama are pained because Mahama has stopped their illegal trade and can't wait to see the back of him.
I am a proud Ghanaian and my detractors can attest to that on this forum. In so far as you continue to act fuelishly by exhibiting tribal bigotry and hateful comment against my president I will call you out, so this can't be your last reply to me.
Accept it in good faith that you are a stewpid girl who lacks moral training, accept it and stop whining.

This is desperate trolling.

when you descend down to unwarranted parental jeers, it is the indication that you didn't only lose control but you are bereft of a logical response.

it is also a disturbing sign of your breeding which may be characterized by the psychological inability to confirm to rules and ethics. i believe psychologists call it social mal-adjustment.

there is also a mathematical possibility you are a loner offline and need all the fuzz here to prevent a looming melancholia.
after all ,we all know nairaland has cured more boredom than psychologists , more melancholy and schizophrenia than psychiatrists.

lol, little wonder the mods seldom spare you.

your reaction is reminiscence of secondary school days bashings - all anger but little tact.

Notyourb1tch:
Am glad that the fuel price has gone done and things are getting better. We often take the little things for granted until it's not there anymore. Agressive driving That does not sound safe...

lol!! it safe o! just a sudden burst of acceleration and nothing more.
been driving like a snail over a week to save fuel. lol.

Batman123:
Yeah right and this is why you guys keep on arguing back and fourth with the Ghanaians and South Africans on this site. Just look at this thread for example

the Ghana brawl has since died. i think the last one was with jiggermangh and we parted as friends.

GHKWAME1 burst into the scene nursing old grudges. he has gotten several subtle warnings that event have overtaken him but he still calls for blood and brawls. lolz.

Notyourb1tch:
Heya am good thanks and you?

feeling happy as the fuel fuel price just dropped 30% ; i can do aggressive driving a bit while driving home.

but now it is trolling time.

GHKWAME1:
One cannot be in this emotionally charged forum with only one account.

So you agree that Nigeria's tactics is to have the first say(attack) huh? You can't be a player and a referee at the same time, hence your observation that we don't submit facts is fuckkery.

lol!!! the average Nigerian will make his point and go. but ghana will stay fighting to leave with the last word.

with fact-troll no ghana can type-troll more than boko haram (which is dying by the way), electricity (which still has a grip on you-DUMSO) and fuel issues.

raumdeuter:
Do you think Men should open the door for a female? Do you think a woman should/can propose to a man
Do you believe in Chivalry, Do you think a man should stand up for a female or help her with heavy loads?

Do you think Serena Williams should play against men like Rafa Nadal?
Do you think men and women sport should be merged so they can compete equally
Do you think women should be allowed to go to warfront

hmn, the answers to those posers are self indicting to the very idea of feminism.

Notyourb1tch:
Stop whining like a baby. I reported you FYI as per rule number 2 and and that's why you got banned. You need to chill out. If you going to have a hissy fit about anyone who insults that foolish useless excuse of a president then you better go and get Panadol cos I won't stop because of you neither will I stop reporting you if you continue to break the rules

hey pretty, how's it been? never mind the guy, i think he is looking to ease up old bruises.

MduZA:
good night,by the way do you have fuel for your generator?

lols. There is power for 12 hours and at the least. and yes my gen will carry me through.

don't forget to put your candles by your bedpost when eskom shudders .

MduZA:
surely you can't comprehend what you are typing yourself...making embarrassing contradictions all in the name of patriotism...

your are still suffering from post examination mental exertion..


go and take some water and relax, or pap might do the trick.

MduZA:
lol....so you are denying that pastor Chris moved his church headquarters to SA,you live in the dream world my friend...you are also denying that there is a branch of synagogue in SA...the content of your comment is just a mere imagination

Comprehension boy!!!

do you read my post at all ? i was the one who first alluded to the fact that Chris relocated his HQ to S.A but that's only because you people love him so much and after he made one or two visiting appearance.

shaddi:
[size=30pt]the most unbelievable of them all is that Nigeria is a failed state [/size]

lol, i can see through your cheap trolling in trying to provoke a reaction. NOW NO FAILED STATE HAS THE FOLLOWING :


1) Ability to unseat an incumbent president through a general election.

2) Produce the largest and biggest economy in Africa ($594 billion)

3) has the continent's biggest middle class

4) has the highest concentration of millionaires and billionaires in africa.

5) able to produce the world's 2nd biggest entertainment industry with generators.

ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES ARE FAILED STATES THEN.

adanny01:
I didnt want to reply you again but i find myself wanting to correct you each time you post. For example, i cant find a car called Acura S2000 but Honda S2000. Acura NSX is obtainable. While their older models are RWD the new models are AWD. What car is Nismo g3 racer? Last time i checked Nismo is Nissans sport division. Nissan GT-R is currently an AWD. Lexus IS 250 has a buyer option for RWD or AWD. Why is every racing car an now an AWD?

Wait a minute are we now into racing cars or street cars? This is akin to shifting the goal post.

Come o, name the race car you own or have ever driven that you so much like RWD and would recommend all Nigerians buy it. Isnt that aim of the main post?

On your ramblings and IT stuff, you said the forum is faceless. I wont go down the mad lane with you saying things yli dont know about a faceless person. I may be so wrong and i wont be happy with myself. It seems you are comfortable even if you are wrong on who your father is? I see why i need to stop responding.

see how fragile your ego is !!!!

lol, you have mentioned by father because i gave you jibe for jibe. you couldn't stand it. maybe you dont have or even know your own father.

of all the cars i mentioned only, the nissan nismo gtr g3 is a sports car.

do your research and dont be a lazy kid with fake internet knowledge.

5minsmadness:
Kk.

1. The ladies have turned this thread into a "blame the parents/African mentality thread". If you don't own your problems you will never be able to solve them. Nobody is stopping you from having an orgasm. Even victims of rape sometimes experience orgasms so the "blame the mind/africa/parents is a cheap cop-out.


2. Having said this, it is the duty of the unselfish man to ensure that his lady achieves an orgasm at least once during thier sexual relationship. It doesn't have to be about you all the time. You put your dick in, drill as hard as you can until you pop, and then collapse in a sweaty heap beside your lady who is desperately wanting more but resigns herself to fate. It should be a thing of pride for a man to bring his mate to orgasm at least once.

A lady achieves orgasm following prolonged sexual stimulation. This mostly involves the fingers and the Penis together but can also be achieved by using either of those body parts alone. And no its not like in the porn movies when the man keeps on drilling and drilling for hours, your woman will eventually get bored and her vagina will dry up and she may actually start to experience pain. Instead you keep her distracted by stimulating other exotic zones as you drill away. Such areas include the nose, earlobes, bweasts, nippIes, bellybutton, back of the knees, inner thighs and toes. Keep the focus on her, not on you. Not only will this let her enjoy sex more and eventually orgasm, by keeping the focus off yourself you tend to last longer.

Sex, like every other male-female relationship, involves giving yourself and not waiting to receive all the time from the other person. I have had many sophisticated(strictly English speaking) women greet me in thier native language after a tryst. I dare say I don't do anything too special. I just focus more on giving her pleasure than pleasuring myself.

If you have any mature questions on orgasm as it relates to our Nigerian environment you can ask. Orgasms are for every normal healthy female out there and shouldn't be seen as something of a myth.

lol, explicit and raw but fact.

nice points. it is another shocker women rely chiefly on men for orgasm more than the man relies on her.

PunkyOh:
See, that's where I have an issue with anti-gay people. There's a tendency to pick & choose. How is a man loving another man backwards, when there's still people practising medieval rituals & believing in ridiculous superstitions? Isn't that more harmful & punishable than someone finding solace in the arms of another, same gender or not? I just don't see what the big hoo-ha is all about. It's not like they're going to ask you to watch or maybe hit on you. Personally, I think we should let them be, just as long as they stay in their lane by not propositioning people that aren't into that sort of lifestyle. I have no issue with gay people per se, but I've realised that some have a misconception of thinking that they could turn anyone gay. Which to me is as wrong as homophobia itself. If they say being gay is not by choice, then I just don't get why some still think they could change someone else's sexual orientation just by sleeping with them. It baffles me.

There's a pretend gay guy in one of the forums here. I say pretend because I'm not sure if he's really gay or just messing with people's heads. Nonetheless, he exhibits the same behaviours I've seen in some gay guys, the thinking that they have a "magic wand" that can turn the world gay. THAT should be punishable because it borders on harassment. Other than that, they could rip each other's asses apart for all I care. Not my àss on the line now is it? It's should be a free world but people should also know their place if they want to be treated fairly. That goes without saying.

very correct for the most part.

my issue with gays is that they see themselves as an endangered specie that should survive at and by any means.

they lobby to change laws and statutes and use every means to slander anyone who has an opposing view.

gays are so tiny by percentage yet they are powerful enough to influence judges, legislators, corporations, and diplomats.

this isn't about logic- or moral broad mindedness , although they use that very idea in blackmailing any opponent - it is about a new set of civilization , a new social order of dangerous permissiveness without a sense of responsibility, tradition and strong cultural heritage.

this is a 21st century where the world is only ready to shed her last cloak of inhibitions and taboos. where animal lovers are equating animal rights at the same strata with human rights.

where modern feminists insist there are no inherent differences in the psychological and physical makeup between men and women.

where people turn the other cheek and say gays could burn themselves but not me.

well gays have succeeded in redefining marriage and are on the look out for the kids of heterosexuals to adopt.

children have the right to know the difference.

in Europe, there is a push to not differentiate children toys according to sex and for gay education to be taught in schools


This isn't about a man's sexual preference, it is a grand social revolution.

GHKWAME1:
You can also be either banned by spam bots or in some cases when the moderator decides to think with what is between his legs as I suspect is what happened in my case when I replied to the unwarranted insults on my president by @notyourb1tch.

One can also get the red pen by the moderators when there is an e-war, all Ghanaian defenders get an extended discriminatory ban as compared to the Nigerian attackers.

I know of @adamskutty, @iconize, @all4naija, @collynzo, @cillynzo1 among others who have Ghana bookmarked in their search icon strolling for an assault. I have dealt with the ugly, you don't scare me. Five Ghanaians in house send shivers down the spine of you lot, we used to let attackers turn to viewers in their own forum.

So once again, let the blood flow…

i have been given a very long han while blasting some South Africans and i was so filled with angst i wrote back to the mod. and i have also been ban by anti spam as well.

all of the Ghana e fights i have participated in or watched , Ghana's tactics is always to have the last say.

they seldom entertain with facts.

adanny01:
I wonder if you know what engineering is.

It is a fact in engineering that FWD have more traction but only lose it due to hard acceleration as a result of transfer of weight to the rear. This advantage makes RWD better on a race where 0-60secs is a determining factor. On very slippery surfaces, there is very little transfer of weight, the FWD will have better traction than RWD which means the FWD stands a better chance. On a race track on a rainy day FWD will catch up or do even better than RWD since acceleration will be lower due to the loss of traction by the wet road surface.

On handling, FWD suffers from understeer which is easily corrected by slowing down and easy from natural instinct while the RWD suffers from oversteer but in this case can be corrected by driver's skill and experience without necessarily losing speed. Therefore, FWD is only easier to handle because the average driver could control understeer while skill is required to correct oversteer correction of RWD. Also there RWD cars are heavier than FWD have more even distribution so it handles better. On the race track, the RWD will be better because as a professional, you dont need to lose speed to correct oversteer unless its out of proportion.

Let me point out to you that you are not a race driver but just a racing enthusiast. The limit with which you can handle your RWD unprofessionally can be beaten by most FWD of same class.

Watch more top gear episodes.

for the last time stop confusing yourself.

You just said fwd will slow to take a curve to avoid loss of control while the rwd will not necessarily slow down but can use the driver's skill to negotiate bends.

then say no more; you have answered your own question.

my student days vboot will out run a 2004 Honda in a curve. fact fact fact !!!

adanny01:
What i am telling you is that Peugeot didnt change to FWD because of bankruptcy or cheaper production, they did because the market and technological trend demanded they do. FWD 406 was already in the French market before they started assembly of 406 in Nigeria. You are misplacing reasons. The reason they changed was because FWD is efficient.

Did you remember the classification lesson i gave you its time to use it. The MB C class is a line of compact executive while Honda accord toyota Camry is a line of Mid size while Avalon is a Full size car. Recent models upgrade as in the case of Accord and camry to full size. So that is the basis of comparison at any point. C class is not in the same class with all these cars so you cant compare, their physical size has no effect in comparison. The S of the SUV is sport so that should tell you which class those cars belong and why they need RWD which most Asian manufactures skip to AWD.

Wrong

Rephrase



Tell me which Lexus or Acura has a RWD set up. None. Nada. Zero. They are all FWD or AWD. Nissan GTR is AWD.

I need to find a weekend class room for you. I am tired tutoring you and my boss is wondering what i am doing typing on my PC and cant face my assigned work duties.

The Nissan gtr nismo g3 racer is a RWD. Lexus ls 250 is RWD. Accura S2000 is also rear wheel drive . Infinity M.and J30 series are also rear wheel drive.

Tried as i have, i cannot fathom from whence cometh thy arrogance.

you don't seem like a worker !!! i can smell your IT ass slogging it off in your place of assignment.


only students with self esteem crisis come as needy as you do. and dont try and teach with sentiments or to show false knowledge in things you haven't finished understanding.

since you have managed to betray your preadolescence on a faceless forum, i shall not be engaging you further.

you have lost your debate credibility!!!! Bye.

adanny01:
Have i not acknowledge the edge of RWD on the racing track? These are basic facts.

The op saying RWD is the best is my bone of contention because that cannot be generalized.

everything has its prons and cons as do FWD and RWD. and when everything is added up, it is AWD and RWD topping FWD . that's the reason the luxury brands and performance model opt for it.

PunkyOh:
America always trying to dictate how other countries should live. I really dislike that about them. But anyway, people should be allowed to choose to love whomever imo. What's the big deal? If another man/woman makes you happy, then yay! Who cares? Life shouldn't be this hard. No proper service delivery & on top of it all, you can't even go to bed with the one you truly fancy Doesn't seem fair. Ha!

I am for man to woman and woman to man.

a man finding another man sexually attractive and advocating for same to be a social norm is just 2 steps back against all the social advancement made in 21st century.

GHKWAME1:
Thought you were the Ghanaian slayer? just so you know, this is @obrafour, had to fall back on this account because I was banned mysteriously. You have been cruising for a bruise on my other account for a long time when you were jumping at my post, so I type again, "you now have my attention".

lolzzzz.

no one gets banned mysteriously on NL. It is either you are on the wrong end of a debate and started trolling without facts or/and posting with indecent pictures or cheap insults. those are the likely reason for your ban.

i am still that ghana-slayer who tells fact from fiction and reality from delusions.

BE MY GUEST .

adanny01:
Nullified by what exactly? Do you have an opinion i have not seen?

It is my opinion, my post says so, did you read?

I have lived in the SS for years and have passed SE always. I work in the Niger Delta region mainly going off roads doing construction. I have seen roads you have never seen with your eyes. I used a 4x4 SUV and have gotten stuck uncountable times. My colleagues with cars such as Toyota prado, Toyota Hilux, Toyota Tacoma, Toyota Highlander, Nissan Frontier, Ford Ranger, even a farm tractor and a JCB all got stuck at one point or the other. You dare not take anything less than a 4x4 into those terrain. A Nissan frontier lost its front drive shaft CV joint in site one time and its RWD couldnt get it out for a week. That instance i knew RWD is a great disappointment because the FWD Toyota highlander got out succesfully. That Highlander impressed me.

Have you passed Umuahia-Ikot ekpene rd or Aba- Ik rd in the mid rainy season. Have you experienced when the rd will close for days leaving you to find bypass in villages off road. I have. Do you know which cars cause hold ups on those bypass? Mostly, buses because they have RWD. In general, all the vehiles that find it difficult on the rd are RWD including the articulated trucks that causes the problem since they are mostly RWD.

On slippery roads, FWD does better than RWD
On economy, FWD does better than RWD
On race tracks, RWD does better FWD

Have you ever seen a race track? Do you have a race car?

If you like RWD just say you like it, dont join the op in saying RWD is the best because it isnt.

If you can make list of all passenger cars you know, how many are RWD drive and what category are they? When next you want to disagree give you own opinion but it seems you have non other than to simply disagree with no reasons to back it up.

you have said nothing new to this thread.

the op and some of us rwd fans have acknowledged the edge of fwd in slippery conditions etc.

but that's about it. it is a worthy trade off for me.

adanny01:
You need more studies on cars.

How did that first line of yours sound in your mind as you read it to yourself. First to fourth generation Toyota Corolla were all RWD, so Toyota went bankrupt thats why they changed to FWD from the fifth generation abi?

Do you know what car classification is? Every car falls in a certain classification starting from Micro car through, Sub compact, Compact, Mid size, Entry level Luxury, Full size, Mid Size luxury, Full Size luxury, Super cars etc The higher you go on the ladder, the more expensive, bigger in size, heavier in weight, bigger in engine size and therefore populated by AWD and RWD. Down the ladder is the FWD which is more affordable, economical, smaller and have the highest production and patronage.

Would you compare how many Toyota Corolla's to Mercedes Benz C-class on Nigerian roads? How many cars you listed among Porsche , jaguar, Bentley, Aston martin, Lamborghini, Mazarati, rolls Royce do you see on the roads? Can you afford one? Do you think its just a coincidence that only the rich buy these cars? What does it mean to an average Nigerian to say RWD is the best car to buy but he cannot afford it or maintain it? Isnt that the basis of the main post? The fact that something isnt affordable means it cannot be the best like the OP said.

Your point in bold is wrong and misconceived. Big companies with strong history and automobile heritage like you said dont make RWD for just no reason, they make them because they make large sized cars with big engines. Your example of Mercedes Benz A class makes a good case of a compact car but with FWD. Was Mercedes Benz bankrupt to have made a FWD?

If you wish to call other car manufacturers other than those you like soulless, fine, its your business. Know this, that those soulless cars are the real ones that serve majority of people across the globe and Nigeria inclusive.

Lastly, your last line contains yet another set of misconceptions. No 1, Lexus is not a European brand but American. No 2, There are no RWD Lexus or Acura but FWD and AWD. Nissan has RWD only on its Pick up truck lines which is a general feature in those lines.

You dont seem to know why manufacturers use FWD, RWD or AWD. Read my friend, read on.

i really do not know where to begin with you. first it seems you read my post upside down. and you are also forcing words into my keyboard.

first Peugeot made only rear wheel drive and they were bankrupt, in order to survive they adopted the fwd , cheap and easy to produce. it is your turn to read peougeot history.


Toyota Avalon, Camry and Honda EODs are bigger than Mercedes C class and BMW 3 series in size but they are all FWD . How's that for your size theory. i will also like to point you to the fact that some Asian SUV are even FWD!!!

AND YES, FWD are cheap, more mass product for those who are just interested in the traditional use of vehicles as means of conveyance. NO MORE.

AND NO , the title of this thread is why FWD sucks. the poster i quoted was painting a slightly different picture. MERCEDES A CLASS is Renault with a mercedes badge.



Yes FWD e.g toyota and co will continue to serve the vast majority like tecno and Infinix: affordability over substance.

and i never infer that Lexus is European, only was drawing a comparison to European cars.

LEXUS is Japanese toyota's struggling attempt to meet up with Europe's heavy weights. it is based and debuted in america.

Who said Lexus,.Nissan and accura do not have RWD in an attempt to meet up. The nissan gtr, nissmo and etc have RWD as do some lexus.

PunkyOh:
Wait, what is the name of that Flavour song? That song was very hot here too, I'm not gonna lie. Rands & Naira is a good song too. It just didn't get the hype it deserved imo.

The dancers in Khona are gay but Theo (the guy on the horse) ain't gay lol. He's a married man. We embrace homosexuality here, no problem. Some old skool people still have an issue with it though, but they just have to live with it now won't they. Tough. I hate it when governments make noise about gays when there are more bigger issues than who's fùcking whom. It's like, get your priorities straight, boo. Misplaced rah rah, much? Homosexuality should really be the least of our worries, I mean as a continent. We're fùcked already as it is.

Homo isn't really an issue with african governments until the west led by Obama tried to arm twist it into our statutes.

MduZA:
apparently the only friend of Nigeria currently is south African mercenaries...chad and Cameroon tried to show some sympathy unfortunately due to Nigerians inferiority complex they were asked to leave...The only thing that popularized your synagogue in SA is the ritualistic activity which sacrificed some south Africans last year,remember those people came there through invitations by the church agents scattered all over SA..they were not there to seek refuge or asylums..spiritually if there was something special in Nigeria Pasor Chris could had not moved the headquarters of his church to SA
...God is south African

Your "mercenaries" are delivery boys and mechanics who advertise themselves across the globe for work.

but your ignorance is staggering ; S.A mercenaries were former apartheid soldiers who are mass zulu murderers. nothing to be bragging about there.

Chad is fighting its own economic strangulation caused by the terrorist insurgency.


AND THEN THE CHURCH:.You are such a petty , tactless lier. The synagogue is not only immensely popular in Africa and around the world, it is even more so in Southern African countries.

Not only do your people come in droves, SOME OF YOUR PASTORS FREQUENT THE CHURCH TOO.

There are no Synagogue agents or Branch in S.A.
Emanuel TV is a free to air satellite TV beaming into the homes of South.africans showing them power and spiritual insights and revelations that has been, hitherto unseen before .


Chris opened a branch in S.A and sent an auxiliary pastor there. BUT S.A has always been short of charismatic, dynamic and eloquent pentecostal pastors, so they screamed they wanted the real thing.

AND PASTOR CHRIS OYAKHILOME OBLIGED.

GHKWAME1:
Good day, you have my attention now.

Couldn't remember seeking it.

But i am wiiling to oblige you, you may lead the way.

MduZA:
rocking girls and women inside sambisa forests

Savage instincts rings true.

9icetoo:
That post above is the koko. I have driven both rear and front wheel drive and as long as regular sedans and hatches are concerned, the front wheel setup will trump the rear wheel setup in handling and offroad action .

Two word : ENGINEERING SACRILEGE.

what you said is not only laughable it is both by physics and engineering laws impossible.

FWD and handling do not go hand in hand; they don't ever mix. A FWD can't even keep a straight line under full acceleration and you are talking about handling in top speed. hmn.

adanny01:
Big lie.

How many Peugeot cars are RWD?
How many VW cars are RWD?
How many Kia cars are RWD?
How many Chrysler cars ate RWD?
How many Chevrolet cars are RWD?
How many Ford cars are RWD?

The truth is SUVs and trucks are either RWD or AWD but mostly AWD because of their weight. The big sedans join this category too. The highest category of cars are FWD accross the globe except for Mercedes Benz, BMW and other few manufacturers tha traditionally produce RWD and AWD. These cars are not designed with fuel economy as selling points butgeo as luxury or performance range of cars. How many people but cars in Nigeria for luxury, small percentage, thats why most people go for japanese and Korean cars.

peugeot stopped making rare wheels when they hit bankruptcy and almost went extinct.

VW,Ford, Chrysler, Chevrolet and kia cars are not known for luxury or top brand. RWD are not necessarily for performance. they are for luxury, confort, durability and smoothness and hwndling. All the manufacturers you listed do not own a super car in their brand, they are not serious manufacturers and lack true automobile heritage.

Benz, BMW, Porsche , jaguar, Bentley, Aston martin, Lamborghini, mazarati, rolls Royce, etc do not torch front wheels. and rear wheel isn't fuel consuming except it is a performance car, ask Mercedes users of 1993 C and E class to date.

My point: the big companies with strong history and automobile heritage who pride themselves in solidity, road feel, comfort and great driving dynamics do not touch front wheels except in their halfbreed cars(Mercedes A Class) .

kia, VW, Ford, Chrystler are in roughly same class with Toyota, Honda and co: soulless.

that is why Toyota, when it tries to measure up with Europe in luxury and refinement equips most of its luxury brand Lexus with RWD as do honda does accura and nissan does some infinity.