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FighterPilot:
Any military officer receives compulsory military law studies and I just only wanted to show your fake military reseacher that he knows nothing along that area. SA's case is different because it never violated any geneva convention rules. You are wrong also for thinking that Nigeria is too big for ICC because it might not be big enough for sanctions.

And he claimed to be a military officer. Just a military researcher.

Coming back to the ICC, the Geneva convention is not its only area of jurisprudence; all international laws and conventions are within its purview but only little countries can and will be dictated to by the ICC over internal matters.

FighterPilot:
Wow!!! I can't believe this stupiddd fake military researcher who knows nothing about Geneva conventions is really a military expert.

Lesson 1: Geneva convention is a treaty on its own which is bidnding to its members and is recognised as an international law. Not all members of UN are party to that treaty, especially protocol 1, being US, Israel, Iran, Pakistan, India, and others. So tell me how will UN ever enforce a treaty which some of its members are not party to it. However, the UNSC does recognise it on its operations from its charter and requires all its members who serve under UN missions to abide by it. That is why US military threatened to withdraw its members on UN peacekeeping missions.

Lesson 2: In modern world the rules are enforced by ICC and all violators must be prosecuted in Hague. Nigeria is signatory to the treaty and has violated many of GC provisions on war crimes. Jonathan must be called before the ICC for contravening GC rules by killing civilians and prisoners of war.

http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/Rome_Statute_ICC/Rome_ICC_part2.html


A fake military researcher who knows nothing about military law. Even your source clearly rejected you.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

Military law is the area of my speciality and when it comes to it I will beat you up and eat you for my lunch.

Save your sweat, our mythical airman and lawyer. Seems you guys can easily claim to be experts in any field under discuss. In the next page , you will claim to be an economist or a diplomat.


Nigeria is too big to be intimidated by the ICC over internal affairs. Try telling that to Jacob Zuma over the Sudanese president and how your military was cowered into making desperate calls to Pretoria.

The ICC can't bite, not where Nigeria is concerned.

EVarn:
hehehehehe....I'm eagerly awaiting his response,then I will know how to pounce on him.
In reality,i'm 80% certain that he will either come up with namby-pamby excuses or try to pull derail the subject.

That's their stock in trade.

EVarn:
Post snapshots to prove your lugubrious claim.
I dare you to post your twitter snapshot of people commenting on the photo or submit your twitter details for inspection.

He won't dare!!!. If these South Africans are simple exaggerators, they can be overlooked. But they are desperate and malicious liers.

They aren't interested in facts. Like there government , they are desperate for a slice of relevance.

FighterPilot:
Lezz are you insinuating that African Americans are also not American enough?

The statistics on ground have answered that question.

Patchesagain:
Lezz, you couldent even post a coherent argument regarding ACRIC and the ASF the matter was done and dusted, all you did was make a fool of yourself in your usual manner.

With regards to the overly simplistic power mechanisms in Nigeria... well its plain for us to see

The irony that you call us "tribalistic" when your own country has a tribal power sharing scheme where the presendency is rotated between the Hausa dominated north and the lesser Southern tribes is fairly hilarious.

Troll away little man, no one cares what you have to say.

Our desperate fact-falsifier and resident criminal e-fraudster, here you are.

When will you ever get the grace to and strength to back off when you're out-fact ? ACIRC is dead on arrival with only 13 African countries in support. ASF is set to take off and has the full support of AU unlike ACIRC. What else do you have to prove?


ANC is built on racial foundation and has remain incompetent and backward, dismantling every thing your anglo-dutch master built and replacing it with Zulu standards

You're behind my boy and it will take divine intervention to get south Africa on her feet ever.

[quote author=FighterPilot post=38534728]The words are simple. Don't invite foreign investors into your indigenous business, else they will steal your business and you will remain their slave forever.


Whites in SA are not foreigners. They are proudly South African citizens.[/quote] Yes south African citizens with a European mindset and philosophy of colonialism.

Patchesagain:
Has anyone ever stopped to think that Boko Haram has less to do with Jihad and more to do with the Hausa-Fulani Faction loosing power to the Ijaw before they felt their term was through (3 years instead of and that the decline of Boko Haram has more to do with the fact that a Hausa-Fulani faction leader is in power than anything else?

Especially since you consider that Goodluck was only in office because of militant action.

Explains why religiously moderate Officers in the Army (who are mainly Hausa-Fulani) supporting Boko in the early days?

Heavy shit, but something to think about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONoaqRaIcT0

@Henry120

It is alright for you to switch topics and context when Nigerians empty your fact-reservoir, but when others do it , it becomes trolling and derailment.

Now that boko haram are being smoked out like animals you're playing the ethnicity card.

You mixed breed of drap primates and hungry sub-humanoids.

Bokoharam is facing the full wrath of the Nigerian army and they actually intesified their efforts during PMB administration despite him being from the north.

While the N.A is on the verge of defeating a 21st century insurgency with alignment to ISIL, you should be adjusting to life as a faded star with a borrowed time and dime-lit glory so shortlived it never even began.

When the SANDF have a clear unilateral victory militarily and your South Africa changes incompetent, tribalistic and racist ANC then we can listen to you.

Leslie is eager to match your broken posterior fact for fact,should you tarry on this part

Patchesagain:
The African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC), a temporary standby force capable of responding quickly to crisis situations in Africa, is expected to be operational by October, South African President Jacob Zuma said at the conclusion of his working visit to Malabo, Equatorial Guinea on Thursday.

The ACIRC will serve as an interim measure ahead of the establishment of a permanent African Standby Force, which was originally expected to be operational by 2015. Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl

ACRIC exists only because ASF does not and has the majority support of the AU.

Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb

Now that you understand what ACRIC is, and how its fits into the ASF you can feel free to stop de-railing this thread.

My apologies to other forum members for engaging with the (self-proclaimed) troll.

You can't string two sentences together without adding subtle lies and misrepresentations. That has been your legacy for the last 4 years. Jacob Zuma is a president in search of a legacy – at least one that’s not centred around corruption charges, maladministration or palatial homesteads. He thinks he has found a worthy project, in the form of a new continental military intervention force intended as a powerful African solution to African problems. Not everyone is so sure. By SIMON ALLISON.


In this context, Zuma’s African Capacity Force is intended as an interim measure; a stopgap to plug the void. It will be smaller and nimbler, and it won’t be beholden to sluggish regional progress. Nonetheless, it seems odd to plough resources into this new force, rather than try to fix what already exists – why reinvent the wheel?

A much more appropriate solution may have been to call for the updating of the Rapid Deployment Capacity already built into the ASF. “The ASF has near-unanimous support from within the AU and has the formal backing of the EU for funding and other assistance. ACIRC has none of this; no pre-existing structures to rely on, no agreements amongst its partner nations on how it will be funded, little clarity on operational command and control and too vague a mandate for when and where it could or should be used,” explains Darren Olivier, senior correspondent for the African Defence Review

Don't get uncomfortable when facts crawl under your skin, Patrick. Troll allegations won't stop me from out-fact-ing you
Now let it go. This a photos-only thread, your penchant for cold blooded lies lured you into that desperate narrative of glory - banditry.

patches689:
Please read my post properly

ACRIC was formed with the intention of being a component of ACRF

But since ACRF does not yet exist we were forced to turn it into a stand-alone formation under the title ACRIC - so yes it is a stop gap, a stop gap pending the rest of Africa getting their formations ready. Once the ACRF is formalized ACRIC will slot in as the core of the SADAC Brigade

South Africa is one of the major drivers behind ACRF hence we were the frist to operationalize our contingent and hence we have made available our facilities in order to speed up the formation of the ACRF

Twisted Facts. http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-01-14-playing-the-african-statesman-with-teeth-is-president-zumas-new-fighting-force-such-a-good-idea/#.VgoIeJgo8uo

Centrifude:
I don't get why everything has to be a Competition with you.
It's not about Political relevance it's about solving our own problems as a continent. You're so busy trying to denounce our efforts at trying to creat a solution yet you fail to mention any other alternative solutions.

What exactly has the rest of the Continent been doing to create a rapid reaction force?

What you don't get is that ACIRC is designed to be easily integrated into the African Rapid Reaction Force once it's formed *whenever that will be*

People need help, and S.A has a lot of man power and equipment to offer.

There are regional blocks which has lived up to its billings. Read South African own press view of the ACIRC.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-01-14-playing-the-african-statesman-with-teeth-is-president-zumas-new-fighting-force-such-a-good-idea/#.VgoIeJgo8uo

DictatorZAR:
The reason for SA's push to setup ACIRC is not for diplomatic relevance but to also help Africa to stop relying on foreign military interventions on the continent including to rapidly respond to humanitarian crisis's that emanate from armed conflicts. SA has bared the brunt of africa's refugee crisis's in the last 2 decades and for this reason it would rather contain conflict within a country and prevent refugee and migrant problems on its doorstep.
In conclusion I think you @Leslie are once again mischievous and it will slowly result in this thread being turned in another Nigeria vs SA feud.

If S.A wants to solve regional problems they will review the ASF within the AU and not seek to reinvent the wheel. That's why the notion has many african countries opposing it, led by Nigeria of course.

Your own people knows it's a dream that won't be achieved. Read: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-01-14-playing-the-african-statesman-with-teeth-is-president-zumas-new-fighting-force-such-a-good-idea/#.VgoIeJgo8uo

patches689:
ACRIC is simply the forecursor to the ACRF which the continental framework for military intervention

The only reason ACRIC exists is because the rest of the continent is dragging its heels towarda meeting ACRF obligations

So since we finished on schedule and no one else was ready, we named them ACRIC.

With regards to funding, the money spent of last years ex Seboka (a record breaker) and this years Young Lion tells a different story

ACIRC is a futile duplicity of a more powerful, better resourced structure in the ASF, which has a near unanimous support from both AU and the EU.

Besides, even Zuma admits ACIRC is a stopgap and interim.

We understand Zuma wants desperately to leave a better image and reputation, aside the fact that South Africa is ever desperate for diplomatic relevance.

We see right through it.

patches689:
1. I said that the deployment in the Congo was under the UN, and South Africa was the main force behind its invention and its biggest contributor.
http://unicpretoria.org.za/2015/01/19/un-special-envoy-for-the-great-lakes-and-south-african-ministers-review-the-situation-in-the-region-and-call-for-urgent-military-action-against-the-fdlr/

2. read my post correctly, I did not say they were deployed to Congo, I said they were deployed under ACIRC. I also quite clearly explained what ACRIC is. The fact that I broke down the composition of the ACRIC formation, and then mentioned the MONUSCO FIB separately makes the distinction glaringly obvious.

In future I ask that you take the time to read my posts properly.

S A troops in Congo is under the UN not ACIRC.

patches689:
First, we are in Congo - who do you think invented the FIB and is its biggest contributor??

Second, our "war games" are part of our preparation to get the whole ACIRC (African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises) operational.

Currently, we are the only African nation to meet our responsibility with our formation being ready since December last year.

Currently, our contribution consists of:

- a motorised infantry battalion (9 South African Infantry BN)
- a composite mechanised car squadron (Ratel-20 infantry combat vehicles from 1 SA Infantry Battalion, Rooikat armoured cars and possibly Ratel-ZT3 tank destroyers from 1 Special Services Battalion)
- a light artillery battery (1 Light Artillery Regiment with 120 mm mortars)
- a light anti-aircraft battery (10 Anti-Aircraft Regiment with Starstreak missiles)
- a troop from 2 Field Engineer Regiment
- a troop from 1 Tactical Intelligence Regiment
- a composite signals squadron with elements including communications intelligence teams.
- a mobile air operations team (MAOT)
- two Gripen multirole fighters
- two Rooivalk attack helicopters
- two Oryx medium transport helicopters
- two A-109 light utility helicopters
- two C-130s.
- a medical task group and a level-two hospital
- Military Police platoon.

This formation, as we speak, is being held at almost constant readiness - at MASSIVE expense to the SANDF.

This contribution stands on-top of the ~1,500 men, 3 Rooivalk, 2 (3?) Oryx deployed under the MONUSCO FIB or the other ~1000 deployed under AMIS/UNAMID.

Furthermore have also made available our facilities at our Battle School in order to host the largest military exercise in Sub-Saharan Africa (post-1994) in order to help the rest of the continent get their formations deployment ready.

Third, you must be incredibly naive to think that Nigeria could lead anything in the DRC. Not only is the DRC a SADAC member but it is at the cross-roads for major regional (Uganda, Rawanda, Tanzania) and global (Western/Chinese Business interests) powers while, furethermore, the MONUSCO deployment has a very clear plan and stratergy that they have been employing which is beginning to pay dividends. Quite simply you would be trying to host a party in someone else house.

The big challenge and this is the big irony is that SA which is championing ACIRC doesn’t really have the capability to support ACIRC… There’s a disjuncture between the capabilities that SA has and its ambition,” said Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of the Institute for Security Studies.

President Zuma was hoping that the African Capacity force would be a quick, easy response to Africa’s most pressing emergencies – and a much-needed credit to his reputation. Unfortunately, it’s not that easy. In pushing for a new, untested military force, he instead risks derailing what progress the continent has made in establishing a continental framework for military intervention, and may compromise ongoing peacekeeping efforts in the process. If, that is, South Africa can even afford it. DM

Bunch of derailers.

DictatorZAR:
I'm enjoying a wonder summer day at the coast on Clifton beach. No time for arguing with a poor Nigerian, now voetsek back to your dark village and go chat on your Viagra thread you ho.r.ny son of a cursed cast out baboon.

You're shining Mr. Wiesel's shoe for his long vacation while your sister is bathing his grandchild.

Your cousin stands in rapt attention waiting for Mr Wiesel's son to ask him to bring in the car.

Zulus don't go on vacation. Junkies don't travel. They get high and then look for their sisters to rāpé and another Nigerian gets fatter.

Now when Mr Wiesel and his household goes off, look for his jewellery to sell and get high on cheap powder.

Born - fool with a curse circle of failure.

Baboon.

@ dictatorzar, still springing your disses together?

You can't look me in the eyes on the streets
Zulus can only grow claws online
And chant "kill the boers" behind the walls of Soweto.

When you're 90% broke and your fathers land are in the hands of settlers who convinced you that your a bloody immigrant in the land of your ancestors.

Shame on you
As I spit on you

You're unfit to be called a man
And your sisters should be married off to Zimbabweans and Nigerians lest your lineage will be lost in oblivion of servitude and dependency.

Omo kwerekwere olodo.

@ dictatorzar, common what are you waiting for?
Blow me away!

You're worst than a boring troll.

You're a zulu criminal who spew lies all over nairaland.

Son of Africa's liberation
Intellectual destitute
Scum of the earth.
Africa's regret.

DictatorZAR:
Trolling all over nairaland again.

Old f@ucktard village id.iot son of a cast out cursed baboon who sold he's daughter into slavery for a mirror.

My Zulu bingo what took you so long?

Son of a slave
Grandchild of a butler
The biological summation of a fleabag not worth his weight in salt

A subzero human of a generation of tree - hoping, spear wielding monkeys.

14:
Rubbish

Monosyllabic, imbecilitated Zulu _bastard.

Care to bring any facts to dispute my points?

Idiota_slave.

You're lucky I didn't see your comment on time.

Olodo. Destitute.

MduZA:
as a venda

And to be a South African,
If fate wills harshly a man
I will come as a Boer
My orders will I roar

As I watch you feel empty but satisfied
Show me how your shallow heroes died
Show me how defenceless you are
your roads broken without any tar

How fools survive
And primates strive
For a name to be known
Your night's without dawn

Crownless king
Puppet and string
Children of oblivion
Never to bear their fathers' name

Nevermore!!!

MduZA:
you will only wish to be a south African,surely your shoulders are not comfortable to carry the term kwerekwere"...am not here to impress you with my English but to tell you that you are a day dreamer....you are not smart at all ...

Do you mean as a zulu or a Boer?

MduZA:
I never attended pigEnglish classes therefore if you fail to cope with the way I use adjectives and punctuation thats your own indaba",your writing is not up to standard either...back to the topic...i advice you to attend anger management courses before your mental condition deteriorates...

Your English is Zulu grade. You pap - guzzling toad. The plight of Zulus is enough to make any black man suffer depression and schizophrenia.

Every Zulu should be castrated to wipe out the gene of mediocrity and servitude off the face of Africa


Let's get down to dirt since you have no point on the topic. Kwerekwere junkie.

MduZA:
I read all your posts from page one of this thread therefore I came to my conclusion that you are one of the immatured poor Nigerians unnecessary trying hard to seek recognition to an extent you can go extra mile in displaying your anger and frustration...remember a fool will never admit his foolishness

You mean you read all my post on this thread and you can't contradict my factual submissions, you couldn't tackle one single point I made but you came up with this emotional crap?

Zulu, you aren't a fool. You're a dumb mor0n on steroids.

The point in this thread is :
A) South Africa wasn't a pioneering BRICS member. I corrected the OP. And you can't contest that.

B) The ANC blabbing about Ukraine is simply noise in a desert.

Your imbecility is authentic


P.S and work on your adjectives and punctuation next time you quote me. You Zulu newt

MduZA:
you are still foolishly going around derailing positive threads all in the name of blind patriotism,one can only wish that you dont go insane because South Africans and their country will remain who they are and what their country is...you will only wish and dream but you won't change anything...

Your fellow dumb Zulu derailed the thread , not me. I stated the facts or did you not read the post from the beginning?

Fact 1- OP says South Africa is a pioneering BRICS member. Wrong. She is not.

Fact 2- South Africa is trying to meddle in Ukraine like she foolishly did in israeli-palastine. Her opinion about these events are of no account and won't even be mentioned in diplomatic circles internationally.

These are facts on topic. You Zulus don't like facts when they are not in your favour.

I don't want South Africa changed; I LIKE HER THE WAY SHE IS

DictatorZAR:
Shut da hell up or are you here as another praise worshipper of your countryman.

Racial antics is usually a sign of weak mental capacity.

And what do you call criminal representation of facts? You cheap tactless, cold blooded lier.

Zulu fool. You're an animal without any heritage, identity or history.

Cave dwelling Soweto newt.

Where is the 33,000 a year murder for Nigeria which you claimed? Still looking for a link to back your lies? You have brought two thus far and it was still a lie. Stupid empty _fuck is what you are.

Olodo Omo kwerekwere.

DictatorZAR:
Lesley-Ann like I said before you ugly old poverty stricken f@ucktard shem@le, you will never be on my level. Comprehend what exactly? You incoherent fool.

Every f@ckn thread you on you turn it into a SA vs Nigeria bashing session even if the above has nothing to do with Nigeria. You only have "zulu" and ANC on your cheap palm wine brain.

Calling me kwerekwere won't gain you any favour.

I'm done enjoy it here you poor shem@le.

Is this your tears of frustration Zulu? You rant like a woman in menses.

When you're presented with facts, you try to wiggle your way out with wailings and complaints.

You said no where did the south African government delve into the Ukrainian matter. I showed you it
did. In this very post by the OP which you read. When I pointed you to the facts, you switched tactics and wail like the Zulu pig you are

You are alien to grace and shame. You are a zulu kwerekwere of a polluted bloodline; A slave-magnet.

A sub-normal homosapient a level above the stratum of a wild primates.

Let thunder strike your oblong head for being big and empty and useless. Stu.pid , blame trading, responsibility-evading, perennial slave of a Zulu.

Born-fool with an ego that is an overwork for your brain size.

You're a roach. I should step on you and spill your pap - filled guts on the floor.

Idiot!


OH, and lastly. If I hear you mention "level" one more time, I will feed your sister drugs and use her as my south American courier.

Zulus are at the bottom of the ladder in all the tribes of Africa. Even Zimbabwens have more balls and respect than you slaves.

Your father's land still belong to foreigners
Your women are taken by foreigners
Your gold is used to build the skyscrapers of joburg and Cape Town by the Anglo - Dutch
Your economy is owned by settlers
You are death poor with rat feeding on your babies
And your brothers are running errands for Nigerian drug lords


You come here to tell me about levels.

Even the devil will feel sorry for your wretched soul.

You're a maggot.

DictatorZAR:
F@ucktard every SA peeps on this site who call your bluffs are zulu according to your tribalist Igbo monkey mentality.

Well what's your take on your lack of comprehension after I just proved that the ANC is composed of Zulu i.diots. you can't read and your deductive abilities are that of a squirrel ?

You're nothing but the shadow of a man. Empty Zulu with pap for brains. Olodo.

Omo kwerekwere

madridguy:
@ OP, if you like list 100 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets all I have to tell you is that " GO AND MAKE YOUR MONEY " and leave this men alone. If I have the money I will buy one for my Chief Imam too. We all need comfort. Both Prophet Isa/Jesus Christ ( PBUH ) and Prophet Mohammad ( PBUH ) laboured for us to enjoy. Jumat Mubaraq.

Stop deceiving yourself. The bible says workout your salvation with fear and trembling. ....also, in another book, carry your cross and follow me.

The Prime minister of the UK. .. a country that is richer than all of subsahara Africa doesn't have an official jet.

Majority of Nigerian pastors live off the sweat and ignorance of their members while running the churches as a family business.

Behira:
But dis lady is sincerely prettier dan rukky....natural and beautiful not all artificial. I dnt kno why rukky had to call her ugly

That's because her vocabulary is as cheap and empty as her sense of clothing.

EVarn:
Running over SA?,ha,you wish!....
when even big multinationals like MTN and tata are considering running out of SA,why will nigerians be running over SA like an european migrant crisis?.
The journalist arrested last year was an aljazeera journalist who ventured into a cordoned-off warzone without proper military permit and escort,his action was against standard international best practice and professional ethics.
If BH had captured or hurt him,the whole world would have cried foul.

That Zulu(dictatorzar ) is intellectually crippled. He can't even read and understand a written piece to save his confused life.

He also can't hold an intellectual discuss without lying and posting a wrong source.

That Zulu has been busted time and time again it's getting boring.

DictatorZAR:
Excuses excuses but hey I expected nothing less from you this is what you do. Did you forget you also arrested a journalist last year or should I remind you with another source.

Anyway does the name Donu Kogbara ring a bell.

I'm not here to dispute your claims of nigeria not being a true democracy in fact I'm quite relieved you are, otherwise your military would've gotten away with even more atrocities with impunity and more f@ucktards like you would've been running all over SA.

This hollow slave with economic and social chains is still ranting from the caves of soweto

NairaMinted:
Point taken. South Africa wasn't part of BRIC but later joined and it then became BRICS. Semantics. Bottom line is when BRICS grows like the IMF and takes in more members, it would be on record that South Africa is one of the early members of this organization so much so that the S in BRICS stands for South Africa.

About South Africa's government's view on Ukraine, I never mentioned anything in that light.

I thought you opined below about the ANC.

[/quote]2. The recent article penned by the ruling ANC party disputing the official narrative from the putsch regime - and its master, America - about the happenings in Ukraine. [quote]