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Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 10:16pm On Jan 19, 2016
Nubian113, the rain is still falling so I'm using an umbrella. I'll take it off when it stops drizzling.
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 10:12pm On Jan 19, 2016
Bumbae, I luv the sound of ur moniker, and the choice of ur colour. Are u an early sleeper?
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 10:04pm On Jan 19, 2016
Nubian113:
You're dumb since we playing observations
You've been a very bad, bad girl. Daddy's gonna lay you across his knee and spank your ass for being a naughty girl.
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 9:59pm On Jan 19, 2016
Nubian113:
Bumbae

Know who you chatting to? Have you read the thread? Don't come in here wiv your pervy attitude or piss me off because this is my party. That's my mate you trying your lame perv lines on. #No offense angry
grin grin grin babe sure got some claws. You're very aggressive. I don't like you.
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 9:37pm On Jan 19, 2016
Nubian113:
Not you that's for sure. Bumbae don't take his bait.
how does this concern u ?
Politics › Re: South Africa To Stop Buying Crude Oil From Nigeria, Opens Talks With Iran by Lezzlie(m): 7:29pm On Jan 19, 2016
MduZA:
All the south african companies you are mentioning are scattered all over the continent...nigeria is not special
Lame submission. Mention how many countries these companies generate more profit than Nigeria?

Must you opine shallow points just to be seen?
Politics › Re: South Africa To Stop Buying Crude Oil From Nigeria, Opens Talks With Iran by Lezzlie(m): 7:14pm On Jan 19, 2016
Okanokan:
$26 Dollar per barrel here we come. The South African Government has just done the needful, a TIT FOR TAT policy, which the Buhari Government employed in 1984 successfully. You can kill Mtn and expect us to pay you.
I don't feel mtn's got anything to do with this. But if it is, then it is a shallow calculation. While Nigeria is mtn's largest and most profitable market, south Africa isn't Nigeria's largest oil exporting country. As a matter of fact, south Africa's crude oil export from Nigeria is near insignificant and recently commenced.

If it becomes tit for tat, it will bee sheer fun creepling stanbic bank, dstv, shoprite, games etc.

South Africa is in no position to play economic games with Nigeria. We have the market. #fact


In the next gazillion years, all your multinational firms will have Nigeria as their top destination to do business in.
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Tea With Lola by Lezzlie(m): 6:50pm On Jan 19, 2016
BumBae:
Red
Red is the colour of passion. If you don't mind my saying, I think you're very good in bed.

And where is lezz?
Car Talk › Re: Checkout The Features Of The Mercedes-benz 2017 E-class by Lezzlie(m): 3:59pm On Oct 28, 2015
wearobo:
No doubt the S-class is a nice car but the 2017 Mercedes-Benz E-Class with all its technological features would make its older brother look like the last child in a family. It packs some of the features of the 'car of the future' like automated driving and automated parking etc. which I believe, that's what you and I want to see in a car. And the E-Class sedan won't disappoint. AutoBlog revealed the features of the 2017 E-Class sedan.Check them out below.

Semi Autonomous driving

The Mercedes-Benz E-Class, which will make its official debut at the 2016 Detroit autoshow, is a semi autonomous luxury car. In other words, it is able to drive on its own without any input from you. Like Tesla Model S cars that drive themselves on the highways, all thanks to its autopilot system and the V7.0 software update, E-Class has what the German car maker calls 'semi automated assistance system' that consist of smarter adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist. It takes the driving from you in certain situations, while still allowing you to be in control by having your hands on the steering wheel. Unlike Tesla cars with autopilot software update that pilot themselves on the highways with lane making, the 2017 E-Class does so even on public roads with no lane markings.It does so by following the car ahead and by scanning for structures such as guardrails and even buildings at the side of the road.

Park with a smartphone

Owners of the E-Class luxury saloon will be able to park their vehicles with a smartphone via an app called ''Mercedes connect me'' developed by the German automaker. This capability is a feature called autonomous park pilot. Mercedez autonomous park pilot is similar to the remote parking found in the BMW 7 series. Once you arrived at your destination, just activate the parking system and step out of the car. When you find a parking space, you can control your car into the spot by circling on the phone's screen within 10 feet of the car.

Your smartphone now your car key.

It's turns your phone into a car key.You can unlock your E-Class door with an NFC-enabled smartphone like the iPhone 6s or Galaxy S6, instead of your car key. Just point and tap your phone at the driver's door and it will open. This is very similar to BMW's take on the 7 series that offers a key fob and touchscreen. It also has a cradle that offers wireless charging to a NFC handset with a secure SIM card.

Share information with other vehicles(V2X communication)

The 2017 Mercedes-Benz E-Class sedan will come pre-installed with what is known as V2X or vehicle to X. This X stands for other vehicles and infrastructures.It will allow the 2017 E-Class to share information such as traffic with other vehicles via a Mercedes server. This will help improve vehicles safety. The E-Class also has Active Braking and Evasive Steering Assist to assist you detect and avoid hitting pedestrians that jump on the road out of the 'blue' and also to avoid collision with the car in front by slamming on the brakes when the system detects that an evasive maneuver is not possible.It also adjusts if you put in too much steering to keep the car E-Class stable.

Adaptive LED Matrix Lighting. Introduced on the CLS for 2014, Mercedes’ Multibeam LED headlamps are enhanced for the 2017 E-class. The individual LED count increases from 24 to 84, each individually controllable—switching between high- and low-beams, and the curve-following adaptive-lighting functions are now achieved entirely via electronics. The light pattern is also altered in city driving or via information from the navigation system (such as when approaching intersections). Additionally, the light unit glows blue, which just looks cool.

Credit: http://www.wearobo.com/2015/10/check-out-technological-features-of.html#sthash.Z7V5G4V2.dpuf
impressive. It is either a Benz or never.

But by the way, why say the S class is a nice car? That's sacrilegious. The S class is the pace setter of automobiles. Benz all the way.
Crime › Re: Policeman Kills Beauty Mc-Cleod, Tennis Star After Argument (Pictured) by Lezzlie(m): 10:22am On Oct 28, 2015
dre11:
http://newtelegraphonline.com/policeman-kills-tennis-star-after-argument/
Demons in black uniforms. Criminals with State powers. Cowards who can't stand to defend their actions. May the remainder of your days have you wishing you are dead. Same with every policeman that kills innocent, defenseless citizens.




** Time for Nigerians, especially doctors to purge themselves off the disease of ignorance.

There's no law in Nigeria that forbids doctors from treating a patient with gun shot wounds; there are no laws that even mandates the doctor to inform the police BEFORE treating such patients
* *
Family › Re: How My Late Aunt Maturely Dealt With Her Cheating Husband.........ladies LEARN! by Lezzlie(m): 10:10am On Oct 28, 2015
bukatyne:
Pastor,

What do you advise the husband of a cheating wife?
I like the allusion of pastor grin grin cheesy


A woman who cheats on her husband is the equivalent of a violent, cold-blooded and remorseless murderer grin grin grin cool cool cool Now how do you feel, Bukky?


Am I joking? Nope.
Am I trolling, if truth is trolling, then I am.
Family › Re: How My Late Aunt Maturely Dealt With Her Cheating Husband.........ladies LEARN! by Lezzlie(m): 10:03am On Oct 28, 2015
daretodiffer:
.

It is an analogyundecided
A very unsuitable one I think. One that gravely throws the debate into a distasteful context.
Family › Re: How My Late Aunt Maturely Dealt With Her Cheating Husband.........ladies LEARN! by Lezzlie(m): 9:54am On Oct 28, 2015
daretodiffer:
Bwahahaha

Fact created by the same people who believe in human sacrifice.

You are losing it brocheesy
Human sacrifice? ?? What has that got to do with anything on this topic?

Keep the rail or take the plunge, commentary isn't by compulsion.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 9:03am On Oct 28, 2015
FTBOY:
dang!!! this guy can literally stab someone to death with his adam's apple...
lolz, that guy has managed to redefine ugliness o.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:37am On Oct 28, 2015
Captainswag225:
hahaha what's s4 when s5 and s6 are out? Don't tell me u are too broke to afford it cheesy. My slave, show me more pics. Obey e command. grin grin cool
Lack of nutrients is still affecting your memory, scrum of humanity.

You couldn't recognise galaxy S4 when I showed you.

You proclaimed, and I quote: " you think I don't know how sharp that phone's camera is? "

That was a dead give away of your impoverished existence and lack of basic requirement.

The galaxy S4 camera has become average over time giving way to iPhone 6, note 3, S6 , Nokia lumia 1020 and Nokia N8.

But it was a dream phone for you, unsurprisingly, it shouldn't be newsworthy, your image of absurdity depicts your slumming existence and economic deprivation.


Bwhahahaha. Wretched boy form a wretched country.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 10:00pm On Oct 27, 2015
Captainswag225:
hahaha u call dis little attack I gave u ranting? cheesy cheesy i havent even started and u are already shivering grin grin u see why I don't wanna engage u in a full battle. Ur health is too frail for dis..... Btw am loving e pics keep posting more my slave. I order u and u comply coz my wish is ur command cheesy cheesy grin cool
You're still a beginner and a novice one at that.

Your ostrich long neck deprived of basic want is a dark reminiscent of your slaving and wretched ancestors who walked porridge in Lagos scorching sun.

While your male forebears where gate keepers. You're a mediocre in all measurement of human development and index.

You're a slave my evlusion, design and purpose.

Your parents were eventually shipped off like parasitic sardines out of Nigeria because there were of no economic and human value. And you're dying to slave where they have been sent parking.


When I take a look at your picture, I see a fool who isn't even sure of his future or direction- just like your ancestors


A slave who indirect confessed old galaxy S4 is out of his means and reach.

You're the offspring of slaves and parasites and it's not within you to rise above your fathers.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 9:01pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
u like what u see ryt? Am handsome than u 100 times. Big headed gorrilla. Jobless grandpa
This is all you got? ?

Same old weeping lame dog. Your literary prowess is as shallow as you're genuinely ugly. No fault of yours.

Nature didn't burden you with much.

Now you're boring as always, I thought you had equipped yourself with some new materials.

Same old giggly, brain dead zombie.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:57pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
i heard u also established a 5 billion dollar business in ghana so u own our economy now ryt? Hahahahahahaha disillusioned fool.
We built the gas pipeline for you which you use to receive our gas.

That's like buying you the begging bowl with which you use to beg.

How pathetic! !!
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:54pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
stuppid gorrila, dont make me upload ur dirty pics here. U have no facts. U keep repeating trash.
......and let the pic- war begin. Below is you.

You're a poster child for uncommon ugliness.

Oya, start posting mine.

Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:51pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
s.
Drooling _imbecilic _pussy.

Do be spontaneous. Stop peeping till I'm offline before dropping your comments. Swine_ ass.

Ghana isn't even in the top 10 economy of Africa.

Lame dog of destitution.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:46pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
stuppid gorrila, dont make me upload ur dirty pics here. U have no facts. U keep repeating trash.
I have no facts ? Says who? A neandatherloid chimpanzee like you who has no more use for mankind than a sewer reservoir.

Empty headed recluse buffoon. Dare me. I will slaughter you on the alter of facts and feed your flesh to the dogs of trolling. _Idiot! Fugly waste pipe.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m): 8:15pm On Oct 25, 2015
Captainswag225:
so this fool is alive and still spewing trash.
I think you should disprove my claims and source, that's if you can.

Fugly slave with bipolar malady.
Nairaland General › Re: Ghana Agrees To Pay N33.8bn Gas Debt Owed Nigeria By Feb. 2016 by Lezzlie(m):
achimotan:
Conjuring figures to boost your as usual. In 2013 the percentage was 3x higher than you even alleged

[color=#000000]Ghana’s Internet Penetration Inches To 40.7%


Figures from Ghana’s National Communications Authority (NCA) have revealed that the overall internet penetration rate in the country increased from 40% to 40.7% as at the end of August, 2013.[/color]

This shoots up the number of data subscribers in Ghana to 10,564,180 at the end of August, 2013 from 10,344,322 at the end of July 2013, depicting a growth rate of 2.1%.

According to the Paarock Vanpercy-led NCA, MTN subscriber base increased from 5,968,583 in July 2013 to 6,053,183 at the end of August. The share of MTN’s Subscriber base has marginally decreased from 57.70 % to 57.30%.

Similarly, during the period under review, Tigo’s subscriber base increased from 1,415,710 to 1,468,383 representing 13.90% of the total market share.

Also, Vodafone’s subscriber base increased from 1,086,912 to 1,139,306 representing 10.78 % of the total market share.

The telecom industry regulator was quick to add: “Airtel’s subscriber base increased from 1,532,112 in the previous month to 1,615,729 as at the end of the month under review, this figure represents 15.29% of the total market share”.

Glo’s subscriber base reduced by 293,740 to 241,437 which represents 2.29% of the total market share as at the end of August, 2013.

Expresso’s market share also declined from 0.46% to 0.44% as at the end of August, 2013. Their subscriber base totaled 46,142 at the end of the month under review.

Meanwhile, subscriber base for mobile voice telephony has shown a growth rate of 0.1 % from 27,244,579 subscribers recorded in July to 27,511,659 as at the end of August, 2013.

MTN maintained its position as the dominant mobile operator, however, its subscriber base reduced from 12,792,148 to 12,740,003 as at the end of August, 2013, while Vodafone’s subscriber base of 5,792,061 in July increased to 5,834,004 in August 2013, representing 21.21% of the market share.

The NCA noted that tiGo’s subscriber base shot up to 3,785,738 representing 13.76 % of the market share. Again, Airtel’s subscriber base at the end of August, 2013 also indicated an increase from 3,117,543 to 3,366,252 subscribers which represents 12.24% of the total market share.

Glo’s market share from July reduced from 6.00% to 5.92% as at the end of August 2013, with a subscriber base of 1,629,369.

Expresso maintained a market share of 0.57% with their subscriber base increasing from 154,824 to 156,293 as at the end of August, 2013, according to the regulator.
This is lezzlie and I troll with facts. When I say only 12 percent of Ghana are REGULAR internet users, I was giving up to date statistics and figures of 2015.

Seee here: http://www.theafricareport.com/West-Africa/ghana-mobile-phone-operators-drive-telecoms-boom.html
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 11:37am On Oct 05, 2015
Patchesagain:
3 sources that blow your entire argument out of the water:

The ACIRC will serve as an interim measure ahead of the establishment of a permanent African Standby Force, which was originally expected to be operational by 2015. Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl



Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb

And, ACRIC is supported by Africa's big dogs

In May last year, South Africa, Ethiopia and Uganda were the first support the initiative and pledged to provide troops should the need arise.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3necoHMsF



ACRIC = ASF

ACRIC is not an alternate system, it is "an interim measure ahead of the establishment of a permanent ASF" and will be integrated once the ASF is operationalized this year.

With regards to your "dont have the men or money for ACRIC' - $400million and 1500 men say otherwise

All we have here is a little boy who doesnt understand ACRIC but doesnt like it because yet again, South Africa has put its money where its mouth is and Nigeria cowers in its shadow.... we have pulled of something, we have created something, while Nigeria does nothing but resists just for the sake of resisting, because Nigerians are an irrational and emotional people... now hurry up and send your boys to our Battle school so that we may train you!
Now you're shifting the goal post. In your last post you claimed integration of ACIRC has been on the plan since the beginning. Yet again you contradict yourself up there by saying ACIRC is only serving as an interim measure. Seems you're as confused as usual,boy Patrick.


And please south Africa is training no one. What is happening is a military exercise training which originally was billed to take place in Lesotho before shifting to south Africa due to crisis in that country.

What a petty, desperate glory-bandit you are!!!

Here's a cardinal reason ACIRC can't be integrated into ASF.

The ASF isn't an African force by the true sense of the word. It is a regional army grouping made up of ECOWAS and other economic communities of Africa under funding by the AU. It can only be deployed by AU under the approval of the region whose troops will be used.

So the southern African countries troops is still separate fromantic that of East Africa or ECOWAS; and they converge as separate formation in the training exercise.

So how will ACIRC be integrated into ASF which is comprised of the 5 regional armies of Africa?

Patrick the dullard. The best scenery is ACIRC will be morphed into the southern African development community as part of its formation of ASF. This is the fact you have been trying desperately to confuse in your usual obscure argument. Shame on you.


Your selective amnesia conveniently omitted this remarks from the ASF meeting in July 7th this year:

Delegates to the three day event also heard that ASF will "not be an African army". Explaining the ASF Colonel Cheik Dembele said it would comprise elements from the various economic communities on the continent.


About 4,000 troops from groupings including SADC, as hosts; ECCAS (Economic Community of Central African States), ECOWAS (Economic Community of West African States), NARC (North African Regional Capability) and EASF (Eastern Africa Standby Force) will move onto the training areas at Lohathla in Northern Cape for the exercise which starts on October 19 and ends on November 7.


Let me close this circle of argument with this excerpt that one again shows than Nigeria is always a bigger brother tho south Africa. Enjoy:
[b]
Champions of the ACIRC were disappointed by the response from other member states. The resolution calls for countries to be ‘encouraged to volunteer capabilities’. Perhaps the biggest loss to the cause is Nigeria. Initially supportive of South Africa’s plan, President Goodluck Jonathan changed tack and called for tight controls by the AU Peace and Security Council on the force’s deployment and mandate. A proposal that the force be independent of the AU Commission with independent command was also defeated in debate. Opponents argued that the AU constitution gives the PSC final responsibility for security on the continent: it will determine where and when the force is used.

The diplomatic problems don’t stop there. Sceptics also worry that the force could divert attention from the long-running attempts to establish a much bigger African Standby Force, with several battalions of peacekeepers to serve in AU operations across Africa. First mooted in the 1990s, this force was meant to start work in a year’s time. A committee led by Nigerian former Foreign Minister Ibrahim Gambari reported that preparations were well behind schedule. The Standby Force also needs money and troops over a fixed period and with an agreed budget. By comparison, the ACIRC is like a volunteer army but leaner and meaner.
[/b]

You have seen that your own press are always eager of the opinion of Nigeria; it can make or mar south Africa.

Take a break now and heal your broken soul. You have been out fact yet again. I have not quoted any source from Nigeria. All are from your own press. Are you indicting dozens of your own press because they exposed your vulnerability and weakness?

Heal yourself, Patrick.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m):
Patchesagain:
1. Intergration of ACRIC into the ASF has been the plan from the start- read the citations

2. ASF does not yet exist - hence we stood up and filled the capacity gap while we waited for ASF TO COME ONLINE IN DECEMBER 2015

3. Nope, only South Africa and East Africa have actual standing formations

4. What are you talking about? South Africa is the only ACRIC contributor... and has said the force will be our ASF contribution when ASF comes online

5. ACRIC is not duplicity. ACRIC = ASF

Again, congradulations at showing you have no idea what you are talking about.

ACRIC and ASF are not two seperate things... they are completely interrelated. What has happened is that South Africa has stood up and (at great personal expense -$400million) fulled the continental gap in capacity while we await you vagabonds to get your act together.

Now hurry up and send your men to our battle school so we can show teach you how the ASF will work
BIG FAT LIE!!!

1)if ACIRC was formed to integrate into ASF. If it were so ,why this comment: Critics are also concerned that the ACIRC may draw attention away and undermine the investment that has been put into launching the ASF. If the AU has been unable to agree on a standby force for more than a decade it remains doubtful it would be possible to organise a more complex and costly rapid reaction force since the fundamentals are not very different for both of these forces.

3) You deserve to be banned for life. you're a disgrace to online debate . Boring, tactless troll. Read here : In 2003, the AU finalized plans for a rapid reaction unit, the African Standby Force (ASF), that could be deployed around the continent in the event of “grave circumstances.” Yet today, only three of five African regions – Western, Southern, and Eastern Africa – have their brigades ready to deploy .

file:///storage/emulated/0/UCDownloads/What%20to%20Expect%20from%20the%20African%20Union%20Summit%20%C2%AB%20Africa%20in%20Transit.mht

2) I skipped number 2 because it's not under contention. You're saying the same endless repetition.

4) South Africa isn't the only contributor read this: The ACIRC is a 'coalition of the willing'. Contributions and participation are voluntary and countries will be using their own troops and money when called upon to respond to future missions under the aegis of the ACIRC. South Africa isn't even buoyant enough to fulfil its own contribution. Sandf begging for funds as I type this.

file:///storage/emulated/0/UCDownloads/Africa%20Watch.mht

5) ACIRC IS A STUPID DUPLICITY ONLY A NOVICE COUNTRY LIKE SOUTH AFRICAN CAN DO: ACIRC will continue to play its part - at least on paper - until the Rapid Deployment Capability is up and running, the ISS PSC Report suggests. 'As soon as the ASF can operationalise its own Rapid Deployment Capability, ACIRC will have served its purpose and is likely to be dismantled,' it concludes. An honourable discharge, no doubt, for saving, if not lives, then at least face.

Written by Peter Fabricius, ISS Consultant


Lastly :

“The big challenge and this is the big irony is that SA which is championing ACIRC doesn’t really have the capability to support ACIRC… There’s a disjuncture between the capabilities that SA has and its ambition,” said Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of the Institute for Security Studies.
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-01-14-playing-the-african-statesman-with-teeth-is-president-zumas-new-fighting-force-such-a-good-idea/#.VhFp4Zgo8uo
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m):
Patchesagain:
Intergration of ACRIC is a fact - confirmed by the SANDF

Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb



No, ACRIC is capabilities are being provided by South Africa alone, and again, it will become part of the ASF.

ACRIC was created to full the capacity gap - and was done so with the full support of the AU




They arent supposed to adopt it - because they will be adopting the ASF

ACRIC was adopted to full the capacity gap while ASF was being operationalized



We know, and when it is ACRIC will be absorbed into it

Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb

So, it seems what has happened it that you dont actually know what ACRIC and you seem to be of the opinion that ACRIC is being offered as some alternative to the ASF - which it is not, ACRIC IS THE FVCKING ASF

Well done on showing us that you have literally no idea what you are talking about

A world class clown, a self proclaimed troll who cant even troll properly.

Pathetic
Dummy, merging ARCIR with ASF is not in the purview of Zuma or your ill-equipped SANDF. Are you a drooling newt?

There's nothing like a merger. ACIRC and ASF are like oil and water. They can never mix. Let me brake it down for you again. Stay away from your pap so that you can get this in.

ASF is been drafted technically since 2003 and its forces will be from the 5 regions of Africa, ECOMOG in West Africa and it counterparts in North, South and eastern and central regions.

It will be deployed solely by the AU but with the approval of the regions in question. Now 3 regions have been ready since namely West, South and East or Central (can't be sure). Only two region have been delaying the deployment. Thankfully it is set and preparation has already began.

ACIRC on the other hand is meant to fill the gap until ASF kicks off. But its motive has been doubted. It is on purely contributory and voluntary basis with no means of financial support other than the voluntary countries themselves which are just 13 in number most of whom are pauper state.

Ghana, Chad and Senegal are amongst the countries that have indicated interest. These countries can't even shoulder the burden of ECOWAS in their region. NIGERIA CARRIES MORE THAN 70% OF ECOWAS EXPENSES. So who is fooling who?

ACIRC is a futile attempt at duplicity. It is dead already.

ASF kicks off in a few months and south Africa is turning over their weak army and equipment into the kickoff of ASF. Is that what you call a merger?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m):
Patchesagain:
1. ACRIC was founded as a interim solution to the FAILURE of African states to mobilize the ASF. ACRIC will be incorperated into the ASF when the ASF is operationalised.

The ACIRC will serve as an interim measure ahead of the establishment of a permanent African Standby Force, which was originally expected to be operational by 2015. Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl

Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb


2. ACRIC has the full support of the AU - unless somehow only 13 countries can impose their will on the entire AU!!!

Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl


3. ACRIC does not need Nigeria's support because ACRIC is a SOUTH AFRICAN formation that ALLREADY EXISTS - it has come into existance despite Nigeria's lack of support... which just goes to show what a lame duck Nigeria is.

4. With 5 C-130's operational and 2 on dedicated permanent standby for ACRIC, as well as multiple charter aircraft held on retainer, we have more than enough airlfit

5. " South Africa don't have the manpower and financial muscle to pull it off"

Lol - we spent $400 million on ACRIC allready
https://www.enca.com/media/video/sandf-ready-take-continent%E2%80%99s-troublemakers

and have 1500 men, complete with armor/artillery/airdefecnce, 2 Gripen, 2 Oryx, 1 A109 and 2 C130's permanently deployed under the ACRIC formation.

We quite obviously have the finance and manpower for it.

Lezz, you pathetic boy - it is quite obvious that you have no idea what ACRIC is or how it works.

It is abundantly clear that you are deeply hurt by the fact that South Africa is leading the way for the formation of the ASF and that we have completely outshone "mighty" Nigeria by not only meeting our commitments to the ASF... but exceeding them grin
Multicoloured text won't substitute for facts, Patrick.

Here are the facts from your own journalists :
There are serious challenges.

Reaction from the continent’s other powerhouse, Nigeria, whose support is indispensable, has been lukewarm despite deputy foreign minister Nuruddeen Mohammed’s assurance that Nigeria was by no means “allergic” to military intervention in resolving crises
.

In the AU submit in June 2015 in S. A ACIRC was almost scrapped but heads of government decided to spare the host S.A the humiliation grin


‘It would be tricky to dismantle ACIRC, which is spearheaded by South Africa [the country hosting the summit]. If there are changes then they could be in name or integrating ACIRC in the [ASF]. It will be humiliating for the host if ACIRC is dismantled,’ said Norman Sempijja, a post-doctoral researcher at the University of the Witwatersrand and co-author of an upcoming policy brief on ACIRC’s effectiveness. ‘We also need to remember that [ACIRC] was a temporary measure. So I think they may find a way of integrating it in the overall ASF.’



Now, Patrick dummy, ACIRC being integrated into the ASF is merely speculative #FACT.

Both have a very different structure. ACIRC is a VOLUNTARY OUTFIT FOR WILLING COUNTRIES. ASF is not. It is fully incorporated inside AU and only the AU can deploy it with regional approval.

Now the entire budget of AU is carried on the shoulders of only 5 African countries , namely the big 5. Nigeria, Egypt,Algeria, South Africa and Libya. The other AU expenses come from international donors.



Now since the ACIRC is a VOLUNTARY outfit that won't be financially supported by AU so how can the rest of Africa adopt it.

Beside ASF kicks off this very year. All the regional armies are to meet in Lesotho but crisis in that country had the exercise shifted to south Africa.

You're a vain dummy dum-dum who loves vain banter and pointless back and forth.

You will always be endlessly out fact here by Nigerians.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m):
Patchesagain:
My citations were clear and consice

All you have is one misguided article writted by the Daily Mavrick... you may as well be quoting Sahara Reporters.

According to Zuma and the SANDF, ACRIC is part of the ASF, it achived majority support from the AU and when the ASF comes online ACRIC will be absorbed by the ASF

Why are you still maintaining this ludicrous line of argument?
Oh desperate Patrick, why do you still question facts in the face of undeniable evidence?

You know not the meaning of shame or grace. You're without the slightest bit of honour. You view your arguments from the tattered rags of your bruised self-esteem.

Shake it off, Patrick. Humbly call me your tutor.


ACIRC IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL. AS THE ASF IS MEANT TO KICK OF IN 2015.

ACIRC without Nigeria's nod will be epileptic and stillborn. Also South Africa don't have the manpower and financial muscle to pull it off. It is all a dream of a desperate president mired in the mud of corruption and the desperate leadership ambition of South Africa which always chew more than it can swallow. Your forces are stretched to limit already.

You have no airliftign capabilities.
Zuma went to Russia behind closed door meeting to secretly beg for Russia's spare and suplus airlifting aircraft but Russia declined.

Before turning to Angola which has a better airlifting capabilities more than South Africa.

Here are the sources by which I have had you murdered. I don't do Sahara. It's anti-Nigeria.

file:///storage/emulated/0/UCDownloads/Africa%20Watch.mht

file:///storage/emulated/0/UCDownloads/What%20to%20Expect%20from%20the%20African%20Union%20Summit%20%C2%AB%20Africa%20in%20Transit.mht

file:///storage/emulated/0/UCDownloads/Rapid%20Response%20is%20an%20Illusive%20Political%20Issue%20%20African%20Defense.mht


Do you want more?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 3:19pm On Oct 03, 2015
Patchesagain:
1. "ACRIC has nothing to do with ASF"

The ACIRC will serve as an interim measure ahead of the establishment of a permanent African Standby Force, which was originally expected to be operational by 2015. Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl

Bah told delegates the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC) would become part of the ASF. This means ACIRC, which SA Army Chief Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo said would be operational this month, effectively has a shelf life of six months if the December 2015 deadline for operationalisation is adhered to.

-DefenceWeb

2. "Only 13 countries support ACRIC"

Zuma proposed the concept of the ACIRC at last year's African Union (AU) summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where the proposal was endorsed.
http://www.southafrica.info/news/international/au-270614.htm#.VgqjuHqqqko#ixzz3n8g95ofl

Weird how all it takes is 13 countries to get something endorsed by the AU...

3. "S.A can't even pull ACIRC off. No money, no troops and no airlifting capabilities"

You want me to post the deployment again? Cuz guess what... we have all of the above.


So, apart from not actually knowing what ACRIC is... you seem to have a problem with ACRIC because South Africa is (as usual) leading the way and Nigeria has yet again been overshadowed.
What is the state of continental rapid reaction forces to preemptively stem violence?

In 2003, the AU finalized plans for a rapid reaction unit, the African Standby Force (ASF), that could be deployed around the continent in the event of “grave circumstances.” Yet today, only three of five African regions – Western, Southern, and Eastern Africa – have their brigades ready to deploy. Because of the failure of the ASF to act in the face of state collapse in Mali in 2012 and the Central African Republic in 2013, South Africa proposed a new, slimmer rapid-reaction force, the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC), in July 2013. The ACIRC has been critiqued by some as being remarkably similar to the ASF and thus needlessly duplicative. As such, the AU summit will inevitably discuss the status of these forces: regarding the ASF, there will likely be pressure on countries in North and Central Africa to accelerate their progress, whereas discussions on ACIRC will center on the question of duplication and the current state of contributions.

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For its part, Nigeria has been steadfast in its assertions that it can address the insurgency alone. Whether the question of external intervention in Nigeria will arise at the AU summit is unclear. While the Boko Haram insurgency is indeed one of the continent’s most pressing security challenges, Nigeria, which is one of the AU’s most powerful members, has historically been quick to foreclose discussions of its domestic problems within the Africa Union. It might veto discussions again.[/size]




The idea of a rapid response tool under the AU Commission – as opposed to a region-based ASF – can be an innovative tool, as most conflicts do not neatly fall into regional categorisations. De facto the ACIRC is intended to address gaps and flaws in the existing security architecture.

However, in practice it is confronted with significant challenges that endanger the whole project. At the forefront is political disunity. Although the ACIRC was adopted by the AU assembly it rests only on the support of a minority of African countries.

So far 13 countries have committed to the project. With the opposition camp being filled with political heavyweights such as Egypt, Ethiopia, Kenya or Nigeria (all four are major troop contributors to peacekeeping missions) it is doubtful if the ACIRC can gather enough political momentum and military capability to get off the ground quickly. Additionally South Africa’s spear-heading of the initiative and its leadership ambitions are not well received everywhere.


The second major challenge is the open question of how to harmonise the ACIRC with existing peacekeeping structures such as the ASF: while the ACIRC is supposed to be only a stop-gap instrument until the full operationalisation of the ASF, which from the beginning was supposed to have a rapid response capability, de facto it is much more.

The idea of a rapid response instrument under the direct administration of the AU runs against the design of the ASF which is based on regional support.


There are serious challenges.

Reaction from the continent’s other powerhouse, Nigeria, whose support is indispensable, has been lukewarm despite deputy foreign minister Nuruddeen Mohammed’s assurance that Nigeria was by no means “allergic” to military intervention in resolving crises.

Critics are also concerned that the ACIRC may draw attention away and undermine the investment that has been put into launching the ASF.
If the AU has been unable to agree on a standby force for more than a decade it remains doubtful it would be possible to organise a more complex and costly rapid reaction force since the fundamentals are not very different for both of these forces.




Two things are clear: ACIRC is nor meant to morph into the ASF as you claim.

Also the countries supporting ACIRC are so few. All my sources are from YOUR OWN PRESS.


So there we have it, little minded,quivering Patrick. You will always lose.

No matter how hard you try to twist reports and facts, I'll always smoke you out.

South Africa is struggling desperately for relevance my dear boy.

And enjoy this monent; you're living in the midnight hours of the last vestiges of the glory of your masters Botta and De Klerk.

Everything is falling aways fast and south Africa is falling with it.

But you always claim it was a jump not a fall.

It's a long way down to nothing for you grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m):
Patchesagain:
1. ACRIC is not a stand alone formation, its part of the ASF... its the vangaurd
2. ACRIC has MAJORITY AU support
3. ACRIC from its inception was planned to be incorperated into the ASF

So apart from proving you have literally no idea what you are talking about, what is it that you think you have achieved here?
No words can do justice in describing your buffoonery -cum- below par deductive reasoning. I should also add sophistry to your list of vices.

ACRIC has nothing to do with ASF. It is Zuma's desperate attempt to leave a legacy other than corruption and ineptitude.

Only 13 countries supports ACIRC so far

South Africa is dying for relevance and are desperate to be seen as what they are not. S.A can't even pull ACIRC off. No money, no troops and no airlifting capabilities.

ACIRC was almost scrapped at the AU meeting held in South Africa but to save the host's face it was shelved.

Read below another excerpt:
[/quote]The idea of a rapid response tool under the AU Commission – as opposed to a region-based ASF – can be an innovative tool, as most conflicts do not neatly fall into regional categorisations. De facto the ACIRC is intended to address gaps and flaws in the existing security architecture.

However, in practice it is confronted with significant challenges that endanger the whole project. At the forefront is political disunity. Although the ACIRC was adopted by the AU assembly it rests only on the support of a minority of African countries.[quote]
Foreign Affairs › Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Lezzlie(m): 3:33pm On Oct 02, 2015
agaugust:
Southies claim to be expert in any topic under discussion, we don't even know what they are again, a South African haircut salon barber will claim expertise in aerospace engineering here on Nairaland.
grin Just to force their opinions and lies on others.

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