Barristter07:


A student reported to you " The French teacher wrote some words on the board in French but nobody in the class could read it "

So your little brain would include the teacher ?


Seriously pathetic


Let it sink that God is not in the category of his sons/holy ones. Psalm 89:6,7

Barristter07:


It clearly said they are made Complete/Full in Jesus , Explain how they are complete ?


Read what you wrote and judge yourself, Who is the drowning man ?

John 6:69 said Jesus is an Holy one of God, his holy ones.

Psalm 89:6,7 said God is held in awe among his holy ones.

Proving it clearly that no son of God is in the category of Jehovah.

BassReeves:
Wallow in your ignorance

All you are doing is proof text with 2 Corinthians 3:17, which means you used that verse from the Bible for the purpose of accomplishing your wuru wuru eisegesis

God, we know explicitly in the Bible, is worshipped. Jesus, we know explicitly in the Bible, is worshipped (e.g. the Magi etc worshipped Jesus) Now show where, explicitly in the Bible, that the Holy Spirit is ever worshipped.

Olodo24:
I get really scared any time a loved one dies. Like I just get scared of everything. I won't be able to sleep alone in my room for a long time (like maybe two years). It gets worse once it's dark.

When my mom died three years ago, I couldn't sleep alone or be alone at home. Even when we travelled to the village for Christmas that year (my mom died on December 1 that year), I couldn't even be alone in the kitchen. I was just scared of everything. Same thing happened when my elder brother died a year earlier.

My brother in-law died three weeks ago and I'm scared of everything again. It's really traumatising. I went to see his remains at the morgue today and it looks like I'm having PTSD already. Too many creepy things running through my mind and head. Seeing dead humans covered up in large black nylons really dealt with me mentally. I didn't spend up to a minute in there, but the few seconds feels like twenty minutes. I still feel like I was surrounded by dead people.

How do I overcome this? It's not a really good feeling for me. It hurts badly.

Note: I'm 27....so it's not as if I'm so young.

Help me, Nairalanders

BassReeves:
You can say this to the anti trinitarians, when you face them

You're merely re-instating my every points for me, but you're unable to deny that its the RCC that added 'in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost' forgery into Mathew 28:19, taking out the original ' ... in My Name' words.

What Jesus commanded His disciples to do, was to baptize in His Name, Jesus, without any other person or thing added and this is the reason why every time anyone is baptised after His resurrection, you'll find in the bible, that it was always done in the name of Jesus only and not 'in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'

The only Spirit we worship is God, we dont worship the Holy Spirit. God has never instructed anyone to worship the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has never in the bible, in any shape or form ever being worshipped

BassReeves:
You are someone not to be taken seriously. You're a learner with a big green letter L hanging round your neck.

Your gullibility, scripture deficiency and biblical truth decay betrays your ignorance that, for a very good reason, trinity isnt a word found in the bible.

Also you have no idea, you are not aware that it is the RCC that added 'in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost' forgery into Mathew 28:19, taking out the original ' ... in My Name' words.

Barristter07:


DONT Forget they share that same Divine nature and now it says they are complete in him, how are they complete if they don't possess Same fullness ?

How quickly you forgot.

" We believe and know that You are the Holy One of God .” John 6:69

Jesus is also God's holy one.

Holy ones in psalm 89:6,7 are all God's sons, and none of them is like Jehovah

BassReeves:
The Spirit of Truth guides all believers to the knowledge of all spiritual truth

God is infinite. [s]God is infinity, not necessarily just plain and ordinary trinity.[/s] God is trinity and more

our terrestrial ecosystem, the totality of the persons of the Godhead is expressed in three dimensions because of the kind of dimension we live and operate on earth

Its funny seeing you making out thatGod is limited to those three expressions of the Godhead, when God Himself described Himself as I AM that I AM. Do you know the meaning and/or implication of ''Ehyeh' 'Asher' 'Ehyeh'' aka YHWH or Yahweh at all?

Jesus NEVER said His disciples should baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which are all the persons of God no other. That is a lie from Rome!

Now, correctly what Jesus commanded His disciples to do, was to baptize in His Name, Jesus, without any other person or thing added and this is the reason why every time anyone is baptised after His resurrection, you'll find in the bible, that it was always done in the name of Jesus only.

The word of God is Yes or No, at the other times its equally polysemous. The word of God is at other times, is deliberately hidden, mysterious, buried or concealed, high reaching etc

BassReeves:
He who asks a question(s) is confused for five minutes, while he who does not ask a question(s) remains confused forever.

If you know, you know that there isnt anything mysterious about trinity. It only turns to be a mystery if you dont know.



You see from the H₂O states diagram above, I can tell you, at what temperature and moment in time a H₂O molecule becomes fluid, liquid or water, and what temperature and moment in time H₂O becomes, gas, vapour or steam water or even when H₂O also what temperature and moment in time it becomes solid ice block. Each stage and/or transformation of the H₂O molecule change in states, are distinct from each other, but you never can take it from each of them, that they each aren't H₂O.

Now using the changing state of a H₂O molecule, I can tell you:
1. At what moment in time did God become Father
2. At what moment in time did the Word, God become Jesus Christ, Son of God
3. At what moment in time were we in the Bible introduced to the Holy Spirit

Unlike the three changing state of a H₂O molecule, the 'Eggwhite, yolk and shell' sic, has only two states, and so inadequate to make clear trinity to someone with

Confusion, is a word we often embrace for an order which is not yet understood and so an order such as, trinity, becomes confusing for many because they dont understand it

Genesis 1:1-5
'1In the beginning God (i.e. Elohim) created (i.e. by forming from nothing) the heavens and the earth.
2The earth was formless and void or a waste and emptiness, and darkness was upon the face of the deep (i.e. primeval ocean that covered the unformed earth) The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters.
3And God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
4God saw that the light was good (i.e. pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it; and God separated the light (i.e. distinguishing it) from the darkness.
5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day'

John 1:1-5, 10-11
'1In the beginning [before all time] was the Word (i.e. Jesus Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.
2He was [continually existing] in the beginning [co-eternally] with God.
3All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him not even one thing was made that has come into being.
4In Him was life [and the power to bestow life], and the life was the Light of men.
5The Light shines on in the darkness, and the darkness did not understand it or overpower it or appropriate it or absorb it [and is unreceptive to it]
10He (Christ) was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him.
11He came to that which was His own [that which belonged to Him--His world, His creation, His possession], and those who were His own [people--the Jewish nation] did not receive and welcome Him.'

It is because we live in a three dimensional world on earth, that the Godhead, in this our terrestrial ecosystem is expressed in three, namely God the Father, the Word Jesus Christ Son of God and the Holy Spirit

It is in Genesis 1: 2 above that we see the Spirit of God doing a preliminary surveying of earth before actual creation work that was done by the triune God began, so the bible does supports the idea of trinity, but it doesnt stop and park at trinity's doorstep, as God goes beyond trinity. God is infinite and/or infinity. So trinity is a means to an end, it is not the end of what the Godhead is

Matthew 14:33
'Then those in the boat worshiped Him [with awe-inspired reverence], saying,
“Truly You are the Son of God!”'

Jesus, right from being a baby accepted worship of all manners or kind

Acts 5:3-4
"3But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
and [secretly] keep back for yourself some of the proceeds [from the sale] of the land?
4As long as it remained [unsold], did it not remain your own [to do with as you pleased]?
And after it was sold, was the money not under your control?
Why is it that you have conceived this act [of hypocrisy and deceit] in your heart?
You have not [simply] lied to people, but to God.” '

Acts 8:29
'Then the [Holy] Spirit said to Philip, “Go up and join this chariot.'"'

The Holy Spirit is a Person albeit not a Person to be worshipped. Now from Acts 5:3-4, Acts 8:29 etc we see that there is nothing impersonal about the Holy Spirit, as the verses shows that the Holy Spirit has personal feelings because it speaks, is lied to, is grieved etc. Mind you, it, is interchangeably used with He.

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The trinity is not dimensions or functions or offices of God but rather [b]persons[/b]I am sure to you know that you are re-stating for me what I've already said before that the Holy Spirit is a person, albeit not a Person to be worshipped

haddeylium:


@livingchrist
What makes you think that your definition of 'Trinity' is the correct one?
Shouldn't you allow Constantine be the judge of that?

haddeylium:


The highlight is 'You worship the holyspirit too'

Barristter07:


That Fullness his disciples also possess. Read verse 10. So it wasn't about him having all the nature Jehovah possess.

Verse 7 answers that Jehovah stand out among his holy ones. Answer to verse 6 none

BassReeves:
Though the Holy Spirit has the attributes similar to a human being as a person, the Holy Spirit has never anywhere in the Bible seen or read to have been worship. This is the important reason why we can not worship the Holy Spirit.

The reason why the Holy Spirit is in trinity is because we live and operate on earth in three dimensional, hence why the Godhead is expressed in trilogy, albeit God, in reality, is not limited to three

Nuttella:
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one. 3 in 1. They have different functions but they are one person being.

1 John 5:7
[7]For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

haddeylium:


Didn't that dispute what trinity means?
Isn't the holyspirit co-equal with other two? Why deprive the holyspirit of your worship ?

asainco:

If we can not worship the Holy spirit why then is he in the trinity?

BassReeves:
Ephesians 4:30
'And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.'

Acts 5:3-4
3But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
and [secretly] keep back for yourself some of the proceeds [from the sale] of the land?
4As long as it remained [unsold], did it not remain your own [to do with as you pleased]?
And after it was sold, was the money not under your control?
Why is it that you have conceived this act [of hypocrisy and deceit] in your heart?
You have not [simply] lied to people, but to God.”

I agree with all you wrote hence why I liked the post, but I will complement it with saying the Holy Spirit albeit is not worshipped, which is correct, it and/or He, however, is a person, because the Holy Spirit can be grieved, can be lied to, teaches us, tell us things like where to go or where not to go, reveal things thus, leads us go in certain directions, empowers us with gifts etc. Does all these just as any normal human being would do albeit on a supernatural level than humans would or are capable of doing.

Lastly, notice in how when Acts 5:3-4, in verse 3 said the Holy Spirit was lied to, later on verse 4 qualified who or what exactly is the Holy Spirit, meaning that verse recognised the Holy Spirit to be God