Jodera:
Lol,
Show me where I claimed I understand Hausa or quit beating around the bush.

That I said I know what you wrote is different from me saying I understand something. There's difference between knowledge and understanding.

You want to use it to deflect shebi?

Translate what late Deborah says and stop Lying that what she said deserve her death. Translate it the Sokoto way let's see it or keep on lying and grasping at straws.

Check your previous comments you'll find out where.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. I won't translate anything to you. I can't repeat what she said.

Get yourself someone that understands Hausa to translate to you what she really said.

specialmati:
:- that's why I said it's a religion of murderers a group of insane people hiding under religion to commit murder. That's madness. I think a good Muslim should be the one that accept to murder anyone that says anything about his religion or god. So they should remove the religion of peace and put religion of murderers to make it clear

You said what you said, and you're entitled to believing what you want to believe.

killmods:

Exactly.. where is that idiot quoting me upandan. Logiccal when no get sense come here and defend ur killer Allah

What are you even saying here?

foolbuster:


You must be mad. Seriously you need to seek help. Did she deserve to die? especially the way they killed her. No single blame to the murderers, may you or your relations meet the same fate. Fool.

I didn't say anyone deserved to die or not.
what I said was... What she did was stupid on different levels... And I still stand by that statement.

killmods:

And I gave u a few examples to Muslims publicly insulting the Christian belief. Yet still u claim u haven't seen any? Now show me any Christian public figure openly insulting Islam.
2. How exactly did she mess up from what I know there was even no insult or blasphemy.
3. Even if there was, supporting the killing of that girl by those extremists makes u nothing but another bloodthirsty fool.
So she messed up and should be murdered in cold blood and burnt? You are very sick

1. I didn't say it doesn't happen, I said it's not often. And if you people have take a stand that you won't let anyone disrespect your religion and get away with it.. It wouldn't have happened the 2nd time. Why did you let them get away with it?

2. She really did mess up, for a. she knew the community she's leaving in. b. she knew how intolerant they are when it comes to religion. c. She knew the weight of what she did, and yet she refused to apologized. d. she came out despite knowing what was about to go down... based on a-d I mentioned above, we all will agree that she really did mess up. Big time.

3. Did I tell you I am in support or not? Don't try put words into my mouth. I don't appreciate that.
As late Sheikh Ja'far of Kano said, the law isn't in my hand or your hand. It's in the hand of the government.

Muna400:
u are kinda of right shaa.. She should not have said wat she said but for de sake of mercy and love, they should have just spared her instead of killing her like dat.. It's too painful

That's what I keep telling people here, considering where she was, she shouldn't have said what she said.

She's fluent in Hausa, by that alone I presume she knows when it comes to religion northerners are intolerant. as some Imam said, "when it comes disrespecting our religion, we are all insane human beings." I'm sure she heard that before, on more than 1 occasion.

Connected1:

Wow.

Now I can't have a civil conversation, it's alright.

Let civility rule around you, I believe in an eye for an eye and not civility.

I can't agitate for peace when I am bleeding.

Do you also want my location?

Jodera:
I didn't claim to understand Hausa. I just said I know what you wrote up there. Simple.
Even my previous post to you, I didn't claim to understand Hausa.

So if this your Sokoto Hausa can be translated, why then is the one she said that caused her death can't be translated.
It's simple... You're not being transparent and you're not saying the truth

Oga, you claimed to understand Hausa.

You said you know what I wrote there, which is another lie. You went to Google translate, even then you got an inaccurate translation.

You're a liar.

I'm transparent. I said my statements without any lies.

Between you and I, who was caught lying through their mouth?

It's simple. Deborah did the insult, and considering where she was living it was a stupid thing to do. That's my statement. and I am sticking to it.

Please stop lying, you're an adult.

Connected1:

Let's have it live.

Drop your location.

Drop your location, I'll come to you.

Connected1:

Where do you live?

Drop your location, I want to visit you and have this conversation live.

Drop your location, I'll come to you.

specialmati:
we are still saying the same thing na Muslims are murderers when it comes to issue of their god and religion. Then I said that's the worst religion to practice as a sane person.it's never a religion of peace but murderers. Since they murder for their god. If Christian or other religion kills for their own this madness for don stop.the other day it was a woman preaching on the streat they killed. well nothing to say you lots keep on showing why terrorism is the bed rock of that religion

Okay.
it's your fault you tolerate disrespect towards your religion.

Muslims say "we don't let anyone be comfortable disrespecting us"

sharpchap:

PAINFUL AS IT IS NA TRUE YOU TALK. WHAT THEY DID WAS VERY WRONG. NO ONE IS AT LIBERTY TO TAKE A LIFE, BUT SHE POKED THE BEAR.

Oga, that's it. People don't want to accept the fact that she caused all of this.

She was living in Sokoto for a long time, why wasn't she killed all this time?.

On your first statement, Late Sheikh Ja'far Mahmud Adam of Kano once said "Whoever insulted Prophet Muhammad, his punishment is death. BUT the law isn't on my hand, it isn't on your hand. It is up to the government/judiciary to punish that person. Not you not me, but the government."

KingWarri:

You haven't seen b'cus you're a Muslim too.
I once live in Auchi town and I was shooked are Muslims describe pastors and Christian programs. Calling our sermon noise and our services places for infidels.
I know You are just a pawn trying to defend the ill of your religion I get it. I'm not here to convince you otherwise so likewise you can't convince me otherwise. ✌️

I haven't seen any not because I am a Muslim(if I am) but because it doesn't happen often (if it happens at all)

I am not trying to defend anyone. What I said was... what Deborah did was stupid. Considering the community she lives in

DEADALIVE:

If the usless guy that felt fighting for his useless religion was right ..why did he not wait and explain to the authority...you are blaming the girl to apologise for crime she did not commit.
...omo make everybody de get sense oooo...no just type rubbish think say people de happy...
Abi you think say if na my sister me go keep calm...omo Nigeria will never know any peace...police must find that idiot and me gk burn am alive too.
Nothing concern me with imam or pastor...if do any how u see any how...u go collevt worto worto.

Say what you want.

I still stand by my statement.

Considering the fact that she's fluent in Hausa, which means she knows how dear Prophet Muhammad is to the Muslim community. And considering the environment she lives in. WHAT DEBORAH DID WAS STUPID. PERIOD.

Connected1:

Yes I resort to name calling and trust me if we are having these conversations live then you would have been admitted in the nearest hospital by now.

A rough 37 persons estimate of my colleagues are Muslims (not all Northerners) and a rough 50 persons estimate of my course mates are Muslims of which I am friends with 15 of them.

We have a Muslim cobbler who amends our shoes and we Interact like family.

Muslims raise daggers here on people over arguments and nobody does anything to them because we assume they must have been provoked but if anything of such happens again.

You no go believe when you see am for newspaper.

Are you triggered by my statements?
you know what I said was right. What she did was stupid. Period...

I don't have any intention of physically fighting you.

Have a good day Sir. You can't have a civil discussion.

KingWarri:

No matter what you say, is still not enough to justify the murderous act of those Muslim mobs.

Islam claim to promote peace but always turn out to be the direct opposite worldwide.

Every Muslim is a potential murderer, pedophile, and rapist.
Death to Islam!

Okay.

Johnnoah1st:
thunder fire u there

Okay.

Connected1:

Making money is difficult and stealing from someone puts that person in hunger, agony, pains and possibly death from depression of how to pay up debts.

Putting one in flames because she condemn your prophet is wickedness, the table would turn around, just watch.

Faiths and beliefs are condemned everywhere, only you Muslims act barbaric about it and also forcefully force others to join Islam when you are majority.

Are you justifying burning people to death for stealing?

Answer this, and we may have a conversation.

Jodera:
Lol, you think I don't know what you wrote in bolded( but let me see if you can figure out what it is and write in Hausa).

Like I said, the translation I heard, translated from and read... Nothing insulting was there.

You know that too, but just because she called Muhammad name without insult, it triggered you to label it insulting and you termed it stupid. No core evidence she did insulted your prophet and that's why you cannot defend it, instead you're just beating around the bush.


And oh, in terms of ignorance, you're really the ignorant one. When you didn't research to read the story from the beginning but only decided to pass judgement Because of voice note, what do you call that. Is it not pure undiluted ignorance?

Once again you're caught lying. You're a LIAR.

You claim to understand Hausa, but all you did was copy what I wrote and went over to Google translate, and copied exactly what was there... See the screenshot I attached. I intentionally wrote that Hausa in Sokoto dialect, which I know isn't available on Google translate.. JUST TO CATCH YOU LYING

For the record, what I wrote translates to But, let me see if you're able to understand this statement I wrote in Hausa

Oga, you don't understand Hausa at all... the translation you have was wrong.

She didn't call name, she outright insulted Prophet Muhammad.

You're the ignorant one here. You're caught lying red-handed.

Oga, let people that understand Hausa to discuss what she said.

Peace.

killmods:

Now its clear u are really stupid. So Muslims don't insult Christianity? U are obviously a one sided monkey. I have entertained ur stupidity enough. U can jump off now!

You see, I asked you a question and you resort to calling me stupid. Because you don't have answers.

I said, I hardly see a Muslim publicly insult the Christian belief. In fact I haven't seen any.

But you Christians are always insulting Islam.

My statements are free of bias.

I still stand by my statement. What Deborah did was stupid considering the environment she was living in.

Also, (I heard) she was given the chance to apologize. But she didn't. She chose to be arrogant.

They dared her to come to college on that day, and she stupidly did.

No matter how you view it.. She messed up big-time.

Connected1:

You are a fool.

Why can't Muhammad fight for himself.

If you say Muslims don't criticizes Christians then tell me your house address and I will kill 4 Muslims and drop their corpses at your house.

Do you know how many Muslims I have met that criticized my traditional faith and also my christian belief when I still believed in it.

Nor provoke person.

We are just waiting to see the actions of the president and for now Atiku is out of the Presidential Race, A Coward cannot rule us.

Liar! You are a Liar!

You haven't met any Muslim in your life. Tell me, what did they say to criticize your religious beliefs.

Also do you know there's a difference between criticism and insult?

I don't even believe you had any religious discussion with any Muslim before.

You see, you always resort to calling names. you can't have a conversation without calling someone fool or something like that for having a different view.

I still stand by my statement. What Deborah did was stupid considering the environment she was living in.

Also, (I heard) she was given the chance to apologize. But she didn't. She chose to be arrogant.

They dared her to come to college on that day, and she stupidly did.

No matter how you view it.. She messed up big-time.

Jodera:
You still didn't come out with evidence.

You said she did wrong, what did she say that made you feel she insulted your prophet? Simple.

Maybe your own translation is different from the translation I read which itself is no insult

Oga, you're not a native Hausa speaker... I'm not sure if you even understand anything in the language. amma bar in gani in kana gane wanga batu da nir rubuto da Hausa

Yes, what she did is wrong and stupid. Once again, I'm not going to repeat what she did.

Get yourself a Hausa person that's willing to translate it for you. I won't.

You don't even understand anything in Hausa and you're here telling me there's no evidence.

That's ignorance.

killmods:

Yes Christianity is built on nothing but love hence the tolerance. We value human life even that of a condemned one. It's how any sane and rational person should live else there will be chaos. It's the reason any where u find Islam being practiced u need look no further for extreme violence that is being fanned by the religious extremists of Islam. Take a look around the entire globe 80% of war thorn nations have one thing in common.. Islam. That Christians practice and choose love nd peace over violent bloodshed doesn't make them foolish or slow.

If Christianity was really built on love, why do Christians always love to insult Islam and Prophet Muhammad.

Tell me, is insulting and ridiculing people love? is that what love is in your understanding of Christianity?

Wow!

specialmati:
so your are implying that Muslims are all murderers when anyone talks about their god and religion. So what it means is that they teach them to kill anyone that talk about their god and religion.i think that's the worst religion to be practised by sane people. Someone said Muslim is a religion of peace but with this its a matter of time. Its best to say its a religion of murderers only time can tell.no wonder every terrorist is a Muslim because they are taught to kill people for useless cause

Say whatever you want... I don't want to indulge in religious arguments, for obvious reasons. But you're making me do.

You southerners, "the peace lovers", burn people to ashes for petty thefts.

You beat people to death for stealing foodstuff to eat.

If she really wanted peace, she wouldn't have insulted Prophet Muhammad while living amongst the northerners.

It is a life and death thing.

Unclesamo:


LISTEN TO THE AUDIO AND READ THE GROUP CHAT. WHERE EXACTLY DID SHE INSULT THE PROPHET.


WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE.

COME OUT WITH THE EVIDENCE.

Oga, if you don't understand Hausa, get someone that does to translate for you.

If you listen to the audio, at the end just after she made the insult you'd hear some girls in the background gasped. Which will tell you how serious what she said was.

Also, (I heard) she was given the chance to apologize, but she didn't. She chose to be arrogant.

I'm sure she regrets her decisions.

Dotman2210:

Something must be fundamentally wrong with you, there is no justification for those lunatic to kill her, is Nigeria no longer a secular country? And what exactly did she say that is blasphemous and mind Christians will not stoop that low constituting nuisance,don't worry nemesis will soon catch up with you lots, bunch of murderous vermins

Being secular doesn't grant for insulting other religions.

You don't see the justification for that, but they do.

If she had refrained from making that insult, if she had apologized when given the chance. This wouldn't have happened.

But she didn't, she believed nothing was going to happen.

I still stand by my statement. Deborah, as someone who's fluent in Hausa, as someone who has lived amongst Muslims for quite a long time... What she did was stupid. and she was well aware of what she was about to do and the consequences.

What happened has already happened... The best thing is to tell our Christian brothers and sisters to please refrain from insulting other people's religions, especially if they are living amongst them.

killmods:

You are a fool and a coward along with the 12 that liked and shared ur useless post.. We have been hearing about Followers of Muhammad the useless prophet killing Christians for useless reasons yet not one Islamic bastard killed for insulting and making a mockery of Christian beliefs. U still have the nerve to type nonsense. No Nigerian Christian has ever publicly made a mockery of Islam like these idiots below did to Christianity :

For example, on 27th February, 2013, Nasir El-Rufai stated via Twitter thus: "If Jesus criticizes Jonathan's govt, Maku/ Abati/ Okupe will say he (Jesus) slept with Mary Madgalene" yet Christians kept the peace.

During Easter of 2021, the CEO of Serling Bank named Abubakar Suleiman compared Jesus Christ to our local Agege Bread thus: "AGEGE BREAD, HE ROSE". The Christians' response to his comparison was captured in the Punch News Paper thus: "AGREE BREAD ADVERT: YOUR SINS FORGIVEN, CAN TELLS STERLING BANK".

So u see u are big idiot

Don't call people idiots for having different views than you.

I hardly see a Muslim make fun or insult the Christian religion publicly. But you are always insulting Islam one way or the other.


Someone calling your "God" agege bread, it's your fault you let it slip.

In fact you Christians make mockery of your "God" by yourselves... YOU TOLERATE TOO MUCH DISRESPECT, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM.

if it was the other way round (Bank MD disrespecting Islam)... I'm sure by the end of that week all northern Muslims would have closed their accounts with that bank.. But you people didn't.

I'll never let anyone be comfortable disrespecting me

holsconcept:

Can u say exactly what she said that insulted the prophet?

I can't. Because I don't want to insult anyone's religion.

But if you have a friend that do understands Hausa, and is willing to translate for you. fine. But I can't.

I still stand by my statement, as someone who speaks Hausa fluently, what she did was stupid. and she knew the consequence beforehand.

miketayo:


What you typed is stupid. Someone just compared Jesus (God) to agege bread did we kill anyone. Ur religion is evil face it. I have seen similar case in India, Malaysia and Congo. You can't even live peaceful amongst urself Iran is an example, not to talk about accommodating others

It's not stupid, you're just blinded by hatred.
You guys burn people to death for stealing phones and foodstuff, you beat to death suspected thieves without even confirming it... Yet you're here calling others barbaric ignoring what your people are doing everyday.

Iran matters are political. Read about it and you will find the truth.

Someone calling your "God" agege bread, it's your fault you let it slip. In fact you Christians make mockery of your "God" by yourselves... YOU TOLERATE TOO MUCH DISRESPECT, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. if it was the other way round (Bank MD disrespecting Islam)... I'm sure by the end of that week all northern Muslims would have closed their accounts with that bank.. But you people didn't.

I'll never let anyone be comfortable disrespecting me

There's a high chance he's from Niger Republic.

If you live in that part of the country you'll see how people of neighboring countries flock into Nigeria at will, legally and illegally.

Sometimes I wonder what our immigration and border police (if we have one) are doing.


Anyways, I don't understand what Christians gain by insulting Islam and their religious figures. I hardly see a Muslim publicly insult the religion of Christianity...

Y'all keep saying how barbaric and inhumane these people are, yet you keep provoking them.

Like it or not, what Deborah did was stupid.

and judging by how fluent she is in Hausa language, she already knew the weight of what she was about to do. She already knew Muslims would do anything if she insulted Prophet Muhammad ﷺ yet she went ahead with it.

(I heard) they even requested her to make an apology so that everything will be gone, but she refused... For whatever reason known to herself.

If you're in Rome do as Romans do, you can't be in Sokoto and think you could get away with insulting the Prophet and ridiculing him.

Even if she had managed to escape on that Thursday, as far as she's in Sokoto they would find a way to get to her.

Sleekfingers:

How is she naked?

I said half naked... It's up to you to think for yourself... If you don't see her dress as being half naked or inmoral, it's fine. To you your thoughts and beliefs.

I wouldn't want my daughter to be going out in that dress.