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lolz

according to somebody, fayose be like,
"my brother, You don't need to sack those teachers and competency test is not necessary. Your friend Fayemi tried it here in Ekiti, he failed. Don't let him (Fayemi) mislead you.
Now the same teachers are giving us the best and I didn't force them to write competency test.
Let me teach you how to handle Education and Kaduna, your state will also become one of the best in NECO and WASSCE Exams just like Ekiti State is now the best."

salvation101:
I'll rather not be specific but its one of the above..

whts wrong with being specific? dlbc or mfm. u sound to be a member of one of these

salvation101:
u are probably from a very privileged background. I was born a pentecostal but got born again in 2008, between then and now i can tell you the difference. Wen my church were building their expensive higher institutions i gave knowing that even though i didn't attend one my protege will and day by day it is becoming a reality. The richest ppl i know of today are tithers funny thing is those who give most in these churches don't even complain.. even the American jews (tithers) still control their financial institutions and all their key institutions

pls, which denomination? dlbc, rccg, mfm or living faith

PaChukwudi44:
I have also made millions without ever paying tithes. God blesses whomever he choses to bless.Even atheists,Muslims, pagans etc are also blessed by God

do they pay tithe in Qatar?? yet, the current richest country. pagans and Muslim anchor our economy,
dangote doesn't pay tithe, yet he is the African richest.

Jesus pronounced salvation upon zaccheaus when he says this
Luke 19:8-9 KJV
And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. [9] And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house...

salvation101:
you must be joking.. Or u r a barefaced liar. I stated clearly that torah meant all the book the jew considerd to be the inspired words of God starting from tge laws of moses cos dat was d first Torah. The jews considers all tge books in todays old testament as torah nd i gave u a link why pretend likeu didn't see it in black and white

so that is wht the apostles used to teach the gospel of Christ??

salvation101:
i mean they were working. They too worked under the Egyptians before their exodus so how were dey different before that day dey were separated cos dey chose to stand on the side of the Lord.. Inheritance was shared after God had separated them.

Jesus!!! so dey were working and earning salaries like ur pastor is doing abi so servitude is wht u called working
slavery is now defined as freedom in ur dic.

just accept that u dont knw wht u are talking abt.

PaChukwudi44:
did you even bother reading that link?
It gave you thooks of the Totah as thus

TORAH (The Law):
•Bereishith (In the beginning...) (Genesis)
•Shemoth (The names...) (Exodus)
•Vayiqra (And He called...) (Leviticus)
•Bamidbar (In the wilderness...) (Numbers)
•Devarim (The words...) (Deuteronomy)

she doesn't even knw the meaning. her understanding of Levites and pastors proved that she is ignorance of the concept.
half baked Christians everywhere.

salvation101:
yeah. D levites were like all the other tribes of Israel till the day God asked moses to separate them Infact moses Aaron and Miriam were all levites.

u mean Levites were working or hav inheritance

salvation101:
why shouldn't dey when their master always quoted from there. During the temptation of Jesus two of the scripture he quoted were from deuteronomy and one from psalm

u are even contradicting ursev. using bible to teach in church is diff from quoting from bible for some reasons. Paul was a teacher of law bfr conversion so he knw the law so much. most tym the quoted it to condemn some laws. that is Christ will say " u hav bn told by the prophet that thou shalt... but I say..." same with other apostles. go and read heb u will see where the distinction was made btw the old priest and Christ.

try and learn my sis

salvation101:
i told u full time pastors were asked to resign. The church only caters for full time ministers. If you av a business you aren't full time.

was that same with levite qualification?? did they resigned from farming or other tin.

at least some body that resigned from work must hav some entitlement. they have bn recievin salaries bfr resignation. their wives or children may be working. did all these allowed for Levites

be objective in ans my question. no pastor is equivalent to Levite.

salvation101:
The Torah are the books the jews regarded as inspired words of God. Starting from the books of moses to dat of the last prophet in the old testament (Zachariah).. It is known today as the old testament only that it was rearranged into law, historics, poetic and prophet

if u say Torah contained the law, how come the disciple were using Torah to teach the gospel of grace in Christ Jesus.
besides, Torah were kept in the synagogue. not mobile. so hw were pple on missionary Joni able to carry it along

salvation101:
now that is where most ppl make the mistake. Levites where a people not a position or post. The highest rank in the tribe of levi is the position Aaron occupied. High priest.. There weee also priest and several other levites who worked in the temple. The entire tribe were not to do any other work but works in and around the temple. The tithe was a provision for the entire tribe since they didn't and mustn't engage in any work except the work God asked them to. In the church today Jesus is the High priests, the full-time pastors are the levites. My church in particular encourages pastors to work but there are some positions which cant be combined with any other work and these pastors have families to cater for.. Some of these pastors had very successful careers before they were appointed full-time positions wch dey had to resign. Many pastor still av successful careers and dey avnt been called to full-time service in the House of God.

if u say full time pastors are Levites then, u got it wrong ma. go and read the qualification of a levite very well u will knw that they didn't hav any tin as their own. u just said some full time pastors retired from work, etc. some pastors even hav businesses.
levite dont hav anytin aside working in the house of God. that is why tithe is their inheritance. the dont hav anytin of their own. so tell me hw modern full time pastors are related to Levites

salvation101:
so wch scriptures did the Christians at berea go back home to study according to paul? Check my other thread about the Jewish educational system.. A jew dat didn't go to school at all knew the 5 book of moses, someone like paul who made it to become a disciple under a rabi could recite the entire old testament off hand.

pls just ans this question. wht is Torah

this the essence of tithing
Numbers 18:24 KJV
But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the Lord , I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

at a point David stopped the Levites from doin some services.

pls explain this portion in relation to modern Christianity bearing in mind the diff BTW "Levites" and "pastors" and justify who is entitled to tithe

salvation101:
i wished to be proved wrong. Wat scripture was used by the early church even according to the new testament

pls my sis, kindly take ur time to knw wht Torah means.
Torah was the book that contain the law especially the mosaic law. torah was not mobile, always kept in the synagogue. its not everybody dat can read it.
the apostles didn't use it bcus most of them were on missionary Joni preaching the gospel of Christ.
Paul quoted several times from it bcus he was a teacher of the law bfr he was converted. apostles did not use it my sis. they didn't teach the law but the gospel of christ.
find out what's Torah pls.

salvation101:
i wished to be proved wrong. Wat scripture was used by the early church even according to the new testament

pls my sis, kindly take ur time to knw wht Torah means.
Torah was the book that contain the law especially the mosaic law. torah was not mobile, always kept in the synagogue. its not everybody dat can read it.
the apostles didn't use it bcus most of them were on missionary Joni preaching the gospel of Christ.
Paul quoted several times from it bcus he was a teacher of the law bfr he was converted. apostles did not use it my sis. they didn't teach the law but the gospel of christ

salvation101:
you got it wrong. Jesus was crucified out of Jealousy and because he claimed he was the coming messiah wch dey see as blasphemy

I doff for ur ignorance of the world. u are just arguing to win not to learn or established fact. if u claimed that Jesus did nt go against the Jewish tradition then, its either u dont knw the Jewish tradition or u dont understand deviance from tradition.
wht can u say abt healing the sick on Sabbath day? wht do u say abt his teachings in the synagogue?? wht do u say abt his judgement on the woman caught in adultery?? hw abt his teaching on retaliation etc.
explain all these in accordance with the Jewish tradition and tell me if he deviated or not.
if Jesus had nt deviated, we wud have continued practicing Judaism or is Christianity a Jewish tradition

salvation101:
u err not knowing d scriptures.. Are u inferring dat Jesus who was a jew went against Jewish traditions because his disciples didn't document it in their letters or reports? John himself mentioned that if he was to write all Jesus did, d whole world wouldn't contain the volumes of books dat would av been written....do u mean its only the things on record in d new testament dat Jesus did?

yes. Jesus practically went against Jewish tradition and that was why he was crucified. tell me if Im missing it.

salvation101:
just tell me any of ur questions i skipped? It would definitely be by omission nd not intentionally..
The difference between Judaism is we are no more bound by the law. Even in the the early church there were two schools of thoughts. All the apostles that studied under Jesus were jews....Apostle paul wasn't even one of the twelve apostles... There were usually disputes between jewish and gentile Christians.. Christians are followers of Jesus, Christianity is following the teachings of Jesus.
Tithe is a 10th of ur wat God blessed u with, offering is any part of wat God blessed u with dat u willingly give out whether to God..
Jesus brought Christianity and i am a Christian

u have not answered all. I wish u can then, I explain some part u are missing.

salvation101:
needless jabs. I sited Matt 23:23 where Jesus supported the pharisees payment of tithes u guys were quick to say it was meant for only the pharisee nd i should point more scriptures in d new testament (dat hadn't even existed during the early church) where it was recorded dat he early disciples paid tithe.. I den told you it was impossible that they wouldn't av paid tithe because their only scripture as at dat time dey used in the early church was the same torah these pharisees read and practice albeit according to the teachings of their master

if u say the disciples used Torah in the early chrch then, I'm glad to inform u that u dont knw wht u are saying or maybe u don't knw wht was Torah. u only ague to win not to learn.

salvation101:
john Rockefeller the first American billionaire never played with his tithe.. Wat i would say to you is exactly what Rev Ken Hagin said..if u don't believe in tithing do not tithe cos without faith you won't receive any blessings for it

dont deceive ursef my sis, tithing doesn't make u rich or poor. contentment is the motto. Jesus told the rich to see his property and give to the poor and follow him, he pronounced salvation upon zaccheaus immediately, he said " half of my goods I giv to the poor..."

as a matter of fact, bill gate spend larger percent of his fortune on charity. Qatar is presently the richest country and they are Muslims. those who control our economy are mostly pagans and Muslims. Jesus never supported tithing my sis. dont argue to win but to learn

Collinz2:
hold the power button to power off the phone, when off on it again and make sure u dont press any volume key while holding the power button.

if it still boot to that place again then

Use the volume down to highlight normal mode and use power button to ok it and it will boot. If not return the phone.

tnk u sir

I hope I have nt wasted money

sparkle12345:
even my own itel a12 less dan 1 mnth is stuck on d logo while i was chargin til nw.

haaaaa. till nw

iPrevail:
Are you sure it's brand new? You unpacked it yourself? ...Just wait for the battery to drain out sha

yes, I did. just bought it dis evening

JeffreyJamez:
Then return it.

alryt sir. will do dat tomoro morning

iPrevail:
Are you sure the buttons ain't moving? None? For new phone?

Well, try this... Press and hold the power ON button. If nothing significant happens.. return that piece of garbage

notin apen sir

JeffreyJamez:
Did you buy it brand new?

yes, less than 3 hrs ago

pls help,

I bought Itel p51 newly dis evening. I tested it at the point of sale and it worked fyn. on getitin home I tried to on it but showing me this

select boot mode:
recovery mode
fast boot mode
normal mode
console mode

=fast mode...

pls help me, the bottons are not working and the battery is inbuilt. pls help me