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Pierohandsome:
common sense is in that verse. If the bible says that shall not steal, and u are in possession of what does not belong to u. Do u need a bible verse to tell u to return it, do u hold on to the stolen item? Common sense wil tell anyone to return it if u really want to repent.

U said it is marriage process, the vers said they 2 shall become one, is that a process or makeup?if he says 2 why making it 3 or 4? And if u have already made it 3 instead of 2 that he commands, do u need Jesus to come and write another bible for u on what to do? The bible says wisdom is profitable to direct.

Pierohandsome:
Mat 19:4-6

The above scripture gave us a clear picture abt hw many partners should be involve in marriage. The above scripture clearly stated that it is between a man and a woman ,not women. It said they two shall become one ,not they 3 or they 4 shall become one flesh. If the bible says 1 and u married 2 or 3, must u wait for the bible to tell u to return them b4 u believe it is not right?
Whn u miss ur way u have to retrace it and not continuing in it. As far as the scripture is concerned the other 2 are not recognized by God because the bible made us to uNderstand that it is only meant for a man and a woman ,so the other 2 are jst in adulterous relationship as far as God is concerned.

D1official:
Gr8 man, this tithe debate obviously will keep us going round in circles.
This topic wasn't actually meant for this argument, but to validate the calling and fight of Daddy Freeze and to let the world know that he's not working for God as there are no scriptural backup for him wheresoever.
So if you must continue to quote me, I would appreciate you stick to the points initially raised.

Pierohandsome:
i dnt knw why u are arguing. If u knw it u shouldn't have bothered asking. U asked for clarification and somebody is giving u answer and u are argueing in it again.

U are not getting the point. Dnt call them wives they are not wives. The only wife among the 3 is the 1st one, the other 2 are not recognized by God as wives but adulterous partners that is why it is a sin.

The bible is clear on this issue, under the new covenant it is only one wife that is allowed any additional one is adultery which u must return them to go marry their own husband properly because by scripture u are not their God's ordained husband.

Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife

Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

orunto27:
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Abraham's Blessings!!!

Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry

lonikit:
pls, I want to knw bcus it is practise in many Pentecostal churches. if you marry two or more wives before you got born again, you hav to leave one and live with just one. this act of forsaking is known as restitution. I really want to know if this is scriptural.

petra1:
Malachi 3:10-11 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse,
that there may be meat in mine house,
and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven,
and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,
and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground;
neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.


Every act of obedience has its blessing .

D1official:
Point of correction, he used the negative lifestyle of Gomer to enlighten prophet Hosea.
Gomer never preached to any prophet neither did she correct God's people.

D1official:
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
His mission was to fulfill and complete the work of God sir, not abolishing d law.
Yes many places in the new testament spoke against that. Read Heb 10:1-10.
Tnks.

aigboeben:
I am glad you know

aigboeben:
This is an ignorant statement obviously!

Deprofessional:
Chief, stop being mischievous. God can use anybody.

I am surprised you have not noticed that pastor are preaching heresy by pointing to Malachi alone without talking about Deautronomy.

Are you aware that God commanded that you must partake in eating your tithe in the church?

How many times have you and other members of your church sat down to eat your tithe in the church?

D1official:
However this tread, is not based on d debate of tithing but on the validity of Daddy freeze being used by God to correct his church.

D1official:
All the ones recommended by Christ we still practice,and the ones abolished by him we stop practising.
where did Christ abolish tithing?.
However in Matthew 23:23 he recommended it.

D1official:
point 1.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Here Jesus supported tithing.
point 2.
Jesus supported it and his disciples never contradicted that,and on there on part supported giving to the church.
Point 3.
What the scripture does is lay foundation upon which we are to continue thereby.
where in the scriptures have you seen microphones used for sermons or fliers being shared, you can as well say it is not scriptural to make use of them in our society today.
You and I will agree that livestock and crops can't be used for tithing anymore.
If it was to be practiced and that God won't be against money because that's the only way to get the correct 10% today.
Point 4.
Every child of God is a spiritual jew,and levites are part of Israeli family that was separated.
So therefore yes, genuine pastors are spiritual jews that has as well being separated for the work of God.
However this tread, is not based on d debate of tithing but on the validity of Daddy freeze being used by God to correct his church.

aigboeben:
Do they pay tithes to pastor?

OkCornel:
You "tithers" have been asking if Jesus abolished tithes...and I asked if Jesus also condemned animal sacrifice. Yet you have not given me any clear answers.

1) If God said tithes are 10% of crops and livestocks, who is preaching this false doctrine that tithe is 10% of gold and silver (money)?

2) Why is the Church disobeying God's instruction on how tithing should be done as He instructed? Israel had a glorious era under Solomon where gold and silver was common. During that period, tithe was still 10% of crops and livestock. If tithe did not change into Gold and Silver back in those days, why should it change into money today?

3) Are you aware that there were conflicts similar to this tithing issue in the early church? Where some Jewish Christians preached false doctrines that circumcision is essential before you can become a Christian? What was Paul's response to this issue and how can this be applied to the obligatory doctrine of "tithing" falsely preached by Pastorpreneurs?

D1official:
What is the Truth?. D truth is simply the word JOHN 17:17.
If Freeze has said the truth, why not give us a scriptural backings of his truth.
All I can see in the old and new testament is Christ applauding those that give to the church, even the lady that wasted an expensive oil on Christ was applauded by him.
Since you know the truth, why not show me where tithing was abolished in the new testament, or where giving to Christ has no more blessings attached to it.

aigboeben:
Beloved you have implied that I don't understand English. When I wrote my O Levels I guess at the most you were still a foetus. You wildly accused pastor of fornication including your pastor, all because of Daddy Freeze. I told you about Deuteronomy that there was a need to convert it to money. And you ignored my mention of Hebrews 7. You didn't respond to my question whether the pastors eat the tithes. Go and ask for forgiveness for calling your pastor a fornicator. Learn decency of language and don't allow Daddy Freeze's blood flow through you. Be objective and not biased

sir, did Bible say u can convert it to money and give to pastor

annie74:
Finally, I have been waiting for a member to actually acknowledge that some points raised by the OP is true. I have attended the church for five years and yes three or four points are true. Problem is labelling the church a cult. That's so derogatory

PointZerom:
God used harlot, raven, snake, shadow etc for diff. purposes but He cannot use a chronic sinner to correct an 'offending' minister.

eyah!!! so you are now in position to decide hw God operates. you are STil a baby spiritually for saying this. have u forgotten the portion that says "he hath chosen the foolish tinx to confound the wise, the weak to confound the mighty" even if u dont understand this, av u forgotten the story of Hosea that God directed him to marry an harlot to pass his message av u read the story of Rahab the harlot?? do u knw Jephthah is a product of fornication that God used to save his pple
besides, daady freeze u stil see as sinner might hav made his ways right with God which u may not knw.

tell us why Jesus never practised tithing.
tell us why Paul who was a learned Jew that knw the law never practised it or is any of ur pastors greater than Paul and Peter??

HallaDaTruth:
Satan can only attempt, the church can never be defeated . There are real pastors and fake . But one fact you all must understand is that God is not looking for crowd to do his will. As long as there are a few good pastors out there, God's will shall come to pass

mazimee:
Don't mistunderstand me because I myself don't believe in tithes . This has nothing to do with freeze because never knew he was in existence when I made this decision.

What I was trying to say is that if this pastor was called, he doesn't need a freeze campaign to show how to be a shephard since that is the duty of the holy spirit