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lordfalcao:
if we play this formation it will be cut down the speed of our electric forward .. In this formation we need a speedy no 9 to play with hazard upfront..

TheGoodJoe:
Stop the cries. The point is a simple as accepting the truth. Lewandowski has played the ten role and can play the ten role. Simple. Modern day forwards can play multiple roles. That is why Lewandowski can drop into different pockets off spaces during play. That is what makes him exceptional.

Finish. You can continue arguing forever or learn and move on.

Loogan, do not mind some of them here. They will rather take a bullet to the head than learn if it means they were wrong.

goldfish80:
Me sentimental? Coming from a guy who believes Iwobi was having a better game than Moses Simon and I'm the one being sentimental.



I think this thread have indoctrinated some people wrongfully into the belive that some players must not be criticised at all cost. Anyone with a contrary view to such performance by such a player is called out which often ends in name calling.

This is not a women's support group, this is a football thread. Objectivity,criticism, truth and tactical analysis backed up with facts and data should be sold here.

Labelling Lewandowski a no 10 is just an elaborate desperate bid to save face and down play the calls to have a more powerful centre forward for the Super Eagles.

TheGoodJoe didn't even realise that his lewandoski comparison with Batistuta and Shearer points to exactly the big, strong, classic centre type we have been clamouring for to suit our formation.

jihday:
you just shot yourself Pep did ask within his powers including swapping Etoo to bring Ibra who is a target man to Barça

goldfish80:
Your gut feeling told you that he can play as a no 10 and you basically want to impose your opinion in a public forum, which isn't guided by any laid down fact but merely on your gutt feelings.
However, I'm not surprised. You're the same guy who tried to shout me down with an unfriendly comment when I said Iwobi was having a bad game against SA. Not until Rohr substituted him that you ate your humble pie.

Seriously friend, stop making sentimental judgments. Don't run opinions on just how you feel. At home, it is cool but in public? You should be more calculated and screwed on.

BascoVanVeli:
Sure and he could probably play goalkeeper too if need be.
He is not just a target man he has a great football brain with skill to match but that doesn't change the fact that he is great at holding up the ball. I would want my striker to have every trait possible but there is no need to nitpick.

goldfish80:
Who told you big strikers aren't dynamic and skillful? Have you watched Berbatov play? Ibrahimovic? Cavani? Luca Toni? Kluivert? The list is endless, these guys are the proper decision of centre forwards who are dynamic, skillful and all that.

I wonder where you guys got this idea that lewandoski is a no 10. Cam you mention the game he played as a no 10 for club or country? Can you list any stats website that lists him as a No 10?

I don't know how you guys come about some of the things you say here.

BascoVanVeli:
Lewandowski can't play 10 that's taking it too far o.

goldfish80:
Lewandoski is the real definition of target man. Big, strong, good shot to booth, win headers, brings people into play and all that classic no 9 move.
Where people are getting the idea that a good all fashioned, big, strong striker model is going extinct defiles belief.

Not when one of the hottest players in the transfer market who clubs are falling over themselves to sign up with about £80M transfer fee quoted in the person of Torino striker, Belloti is the definition of a proper big centre forward.

Amongst the top rated teenagers in Europe is Alexander Isak of Dortmund. At just 17 he's imposing figure stands at 6ft 3.

It's not like I'm at loss why people are running with the view that the big centre forward type is not fashionable. Obviously all in view to make a case for Kelechi starting for the eagles at all cost.

komekn:
Tell me which defenders will not describe playing against any of these players as a nightmare.

Players listed below are a defenders worst nightmare first of all they do not need a lot of support on thier own they can unsettle, disrupt and dismantle am entire defensive line up.

Kane
Ibrahimovic
Benteke
Lukaku
Conte
Balotelli
Drogba (in his prime)

I would consider your proposition as being without any substance what so ever.

You suggest that target men are devoid of skill, speed, vision and lack creativity. The opposite is the case the best of them simply bring everything to the table.

Joebie:
My point was Onyekuru was quoted as saying the CF role is his preferred role. I had seen it in him that he will thrive even better in that role. The modern day forward can play all 3 roles. We need to bury that idea of a natural number 9. In fact today's modern coaches have different preferences as to the qualities their chosen number 9 should have. Football is evolving faster than we think.

goldfish80:
You can see why ure just an arm-chair analyst. Rohr could see Iwobi have been piss poor and promptly subbed him off. Dont watch football with sentiments. Nothing good is achieved with sentimental desicions.

goldfish80:
I'm a big fan of Iwobi, any regular here can attest to that. Unfortunately, I don't get carried away with sentiments. He's been poor, haven't looked threatening like Simon on the other side.

Icon4s:
Rohr is such a very smart coach. He has tactfully sidelined Ighalo and Ideye while at the same time been preparing there replacements.


He is using 'keeping faith with strikers in France camp ' now. Next time he would use a phrase like 'you don't change a winning team'.
He has tactfully kept Ideye and Ighalo as standbys just in case the young ones fail to impress. Unlike previous coaches who will just dump some players and make some harshcomments about them.
Why would I not like this man?

Joebie:
That Pozzo (Ponzi ) family sef, their own too much. They own both Watford and Granada. So in reality it was just like switching the player. Same applies to Uche Agbo.

Success was progressing well in La Liga. He has played against the likes of Real Madrid and did not disappoint. His development would have been better there. La Liga suits him better.

I do agree with you, that pozzo family mean business, they sacked two coaches in their two years in the top flight meaning they want success but them no try for this Granada team that relegated sha, they got our success whom will eventually lead them to success, I think it's good for him that he came to the epl because it suits his game perfectly and with good experience we would have a beast like none... I think he is the strongest SE attacker that added with his unpredictable footwork, he will dominate epl.

Joebie:
I think people's issue with Ideye is he has been tried, retried, dropped, dusted, tried again, ran the rule over again and again.. hahaha.. and now he is in China. Seriously Success dey fall my hand. He use to be my main man.

edi287:
Mbappe is more talented than Nacho. End of story. The guy has slotted seamlessly from youth football. Go watch his highlights at youth level and compare how he is now. Don't let patriotism blind you.

Mickael2:
Even last season when Nacho had the chance, his stats were nowhere close to that of Mbappe and Mbappe has played more games as a winger. Last season's UCL, what was Nacho's contribution? 1, 2, 3 offsides against Madrid and he did get game time so don't go there.

Ok you mentioned all these clubs as reported by owngoalnigeria. Let me repeat that for emphasis OWNGOALNIGERIA, yeah quite a reliable site. Every single day I browse through skysports and other notable sports sites and the only club coming for him is West Ham and previously Hoffeinhem, Dortmund did not want him and that was why they rejected the 90million plus Nacho bid Man city tabled, to show you that I have been following that up but I didn't want to bring you down from that your cloud nine.


Nacho takes 5 mins to make an impact? Let me not start, just a word of advice, go and check how many goals Nacho has scored as a sub compared to Mbappe then come back on your knees and admit the truth.

And finally, Nacho might be the brightest prospect(in your mind atleast) of his generation, that doesn't mean he will turn out to be the best. I have seen you guys deride other players that are presently performing better than him, I wish the young lad the best but the truth is that he is a good player but nowhere close to the likes of Dembele, Mbappe or Gabby J

EmmGee:
Oh well. I was talking to friend and he said he smokes weed.

Maybe that's the reason for his issues.
But then again, people will always assume

diggz:
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It is ok to have an opinion but it is not ok to argue against reason especially when you do not have proven facts to back up your argument. if I should ask you how many coaches will sacrifice a striker of agueros calibre for Gabriel at the moment,i am sure it is only Pep you will mention. No right thinking coach will do that for the record so, don't come here and start telling us what is not please!

Where or when did you develop all this plenty grammar for a striker without any substance attached to it? Abeg Bros, football still carries the most basic duties and responsibilities for each and everyone on the field of play. This should not be confused in anyway........

For alll the height, reflex ,vision and co. Courtois has, if he is not doing his primary job by keeping the balls out of the net he is useless. There is a reason ramirez, oscar and co. are plying their trade in china at the moment even with all the determination,aggression, work rate ,stamina etc they possess. If Kante runs like a headless chicken all through a game without properly shielding the back 3 from attack,he is useless and same will be said of matic when or if he fails. The duty of a striker is to score goals.....! I repeat, score goals........! anything extra is a plus. Abi, will you in all fairness compare drogba to Ronaldo de Lima?


I am sorry to say I do not know what you guys are on about but, I am very certainly not buying it. Torres was determined,he had xter,he could keep shape and many labelled him a more intelligent player than drogba but he failed for us yakata......,!

I asked for you to stop mentioning Gabriel because it is ridiculous to base all your argument solely on him. There is only one ideologist in the world of football today and that is Pep. No sane coach will sacrifice a striker like aguero for Gabriel. As a matter of fact,if CFC had bought Gabriel, by now he will be on his way to vitesse , championship, psv or playing with the under 21s.

Lastly, I think we should die this matter. Conte and the board will buy whoever they want at the end of the season abeg.

Dhelake:
How do you know what I understand and what I dont??

It's like this belotti guy doesn't have attributes that can be described. The first job of a striker is to score goals and Belotti hasn't done that consistently enough.

You even classed him with Suarez and Lewy . Someone that is not on Harry Kane's level yet. Just agree even you haven't seen Belotti play. You read one or two article and you are coming here to form expert opinion

Nihilist:
I keep asking you what Belloti has and instead of mentioning something sensible, you've said things like 'check their all round game' or 'go and check lewandowski'

Is Belloti so arcane that his attributes cannot be articulated?

I checked out the Belloti guy and the only reason we are hearing his name is his relatively high number of goals. 15 goals in the league to be exact, 4 of which are penalties sef.

Go and sit down somewhere at the back please since you don't have anything useful to contribute anyway.

diggz:
In essence you are asking the club to buy a player with a price tag of over 70million pounds out of potentials? And the potentials you refer to are not more than link up play with goals not guaranteed for a supposed 9?

Please stop the hype over Gab Jesus already. I don't think couple of games with some goals and assist is worth it to start with. I am not denying he could be something but not just worth the plenty noise yet! Martial did something similar just a season ago. Rashford couldn't stop scoring as well. So make we calm down small braaah.......

The Costa you placed in your list is not even on Suarez kind of level. Costa is better known to be a very good finisher, not for his all round skill Bros. Except that which they all have in common is being a battling ram, i don't see how Costa falls into the bracket of them Suarez.

Except your boy will come for less than 35million, I don't see why we should get him. If it's strictly based on potential, We have traore, batshuayi, add Tammy and RLC self......this boys have potentials and won't cost us an extra penny.