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BykeLaByke:
Neymar not able to hack it in a CL final under the brightest lights??


I guess finals MVP just isn't for everyone.

Dey there dey troll, no go follow Barto find 5m for safe wire give Liverpool...

At least Neymar no chop 8-2.

-Lord

Virus99:
I wish my boy all the best tonight

Darn, I miss the cat.

-Lord

Adiwana:
First things first,salary was never an issue. If not Madrid would never have gambled a fit Ronaldo that had a balon dor winning season and has at least 5 years left that will bang at least 30 goals a season to an unfit Bale that is unreliable and is week in,week out of the hospital only to turn around and make Bale the highest paid player in the squad while he's somewhere playing golf even denying him a move to China. They made a move for Hazard knowing fully well he will never deliver like Ronaldo. The whole salary excuse they gave was just to appease the media and fans

Secondly,Ronaldo leaving Madrid had nothing to do with what happened on the field. He complained that he didn't feel the love he once had received at the club which is what is currently happening with Messi at Barca. There was a clear disconnect between him and those who run the club and that's why he pushed to leave. The aftermath of the Balon Dor was just a ripple effect of the whole issue and that's why he didn't attend those awards. Perez could care less if Modric went to Inter and giving him the award juat to make him no leave yet made more sense. You just can't lose Zidane,Modric and Ronaldo at a go. It was disaster waiting to happen and we saw how that went last season till that same Zidane was called back to make that transition/rebuild much easier

Thirdly, Winning the champions league 3x in a roll also meant that Madrid could afford to lose him. Cashing out 100M+,cutting his huge wage off the bill ,Bale finally stepping up after that goal against Liverpool,bringing in Hazard and knowing that Benzema and Ramos are also there made more sense so why not afford to let him go. It was a good business for both Juve and Madrid and am not doubting that


Barcelona's problem on the other is so deep that this is not just some problem with Messi and the board or one player against his manager. The club president pays media outlets to run propaganda against the squad, whether Neymar comes back or not has split the club as some people don't want him back while players like Messi,Pique,Suarez wants him. Rumors that Griezmann continues to get isolated by Messi due to issues that surrounded his signings. Valverde has a disaster against both Roma and Liverpool and somehow started this season as our manager. Messi and Abidal fallout,etc etc. The issue is so multi-faceted as you said that there's no one cause to point to. We just look like random 11 players that was thrown in to play for the sake of playing week in week out and yesterday was just what brought attention to those issues. The result was shameful to say the least but nobody who understood the mess we're in would be surprised by yesterday

Messi on the other hand as a captain will sure partake in the blame. At least as a captain,he should be able help the team separate what happens off field to what happens on the field. But the truth is that the problems are way beyond him and we need to at the very least start by weeding out those who run Brarcelona

Oh, salary was a big issue. Perez delayed salary talks for 18 months. And you don't know what was in Perez mind when he bought Hazard. This is a man who was so clueless that he bought Mariano as a replacement for Ronaldo (and gave him the #7 jersey) and sacked Lope because according to him he was unable to utilize a team with several players who were shortlisted in the Balon D'Or team of the season. The same players who would later crash out of all competitions in a single week.

The salary was not an excuse.

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You cannot say it had NOTHING to do with what happened on the field, when he publicly criticized the front office on transfer policy.

The friction between Perez and Ronaldo did not start in 2018. It was a perennial niggle but he did not leave until our sporting situation looked like it'd spiral out of control. He had already been booed in the Bernabeu because there was a section of the fanbase that believed he was part of the glaring problems. Yet there was no sense of urgency from the front office to remedy the problems. It was after the Lope catastrophe that Perez saw what everyone else was seeing.

Zidane left too. Neither Zidane nor Ronaldo would have left if RM still looked like world beaters. That's the reason I said CR7 time with us had ended. You either die a hero, or live long enough to be the villain. Messi is living out the latter part.

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Dazzall. Of course, the blame does not ONLY rest on Messi.

My issue is with the "exoneration" by his fans of ANY culpability. After FIVE consecutive years of embarassments... That makes no sense!

Seriously, a coach with a working brain, change in mentality, 2-3 new players and this Barca team will be VERY different.

-Lord

tesppidd:


Ooh I get it now;

His own leadership is not to lead the team to win the champions league.

But to lead his team to not lose by more than one goal or only lose by the way goals rule.

Pardon me, I understand it better now.

Beats conceding the most knockout-game goals in one game in UCL history...

But if masochism is your jam, why'd I discriminate. Don't worry I'm sure Messi and Friends are already preparing next season's bottle of misery. It should be tastefully bitter and we'd be here to celebrate another disastrous record with you.

-Lord

tesppidd:
Points to decipher from the bolded portion above.


Ronaldo knew his team mates were not good enough.

He didn't want what happened to Messi to happen to him.

He left to avoid the humiliation Messi is facing today.

But Messi refuses to leave the last 5 years because he felt loyal and thought he could do it all by himself even with under performing
players.

So Messi actually refused to leave despite seeing that the team was deteriorating.

You've said it all.

Case closed.

Not having sufficient back-up is very different from teammates are not good enough.

And he read the riot act; not stay, swallow fat salary, protect his friends in the team, drop consecutive disasterclass for 5 years straight; then turn around and play the victim.

Staying is easy. Just sign a new contract.

However, if you're choosing to stay, then you must be part of the solution to whatever problems exist. Not making the problems worse which is clearly the case here.

Anyway, I don't have any skin in the game. It's your club, he's your MCM, and you can continue to exonerate him. Next year Barto will be voted out and if Barca is lucky, his replacement will not be a brown noser. It's just unfortunate you have someone like Messi in your team and all this calamity is progressing at a frightening rate while he's behaving like a bystander.

Even Pique is saying if change is coming, he'd volunteer for it to start with him. That's Pique o, not Maldini.

-Lord

pu7pl3:
All these your Perez conspiracy theories na the only issue wey I dey get with your reasoning...

You would be making soomuch sense and then boom..you drop the stinker that spoils the whole soup

That's your own cup of tea. Everybody on the forum know I don't like Perez. I only tolerate him.

If Zidane no kon save our a$$ and Barca no zuzu, na we and cules for dey share tissue paper this year.

And we all know he'd have sacked Zidane or whomever and continued his compulsive gambling. But that's not the topic of discussion...

-Lord

tesppidd:
What should they be over reliant on Messi?

Cus they lazy as Bleep. That's why.

We saw how Neymar came along and that dependency was reduced.
Even with Dembele there were good signs but he was hampered by injuries.

Neymar and Dembele brought a new dimension to Barca.

The rest simply couldn't cut it.

Take last season as case study.

Messi scored over 10 goals in the UCL plus 2 against Liverpool.
Barca had 2 own goals I think.
Then Suarez had 1 goal or something.

As for your question; What has Messi done about it?
This is ridiculous! Is there an answer to this?
Done about it as team coach or as board director? Which? Lol.


Which one is 1 year or 2 years or 5 years?
Is it Messi that keeps breaking Dembele's legs?

Or is it Messi that turned Arthur into a round about midfielder.

Or is it Messi that makes Griezman can't buy a goal to save his career?

Whether you like it or not Messi Mess and to an extent Ter Stagen have contributed 80 percent to this Barca side for the past 5 years while the entire team have not contributed more than 20 percent.

It's all too glaring to see.

Its become a cliche to say that Barca problem is Messi-dependent which means we must exhornorate him.
And that you must do willy nilly.

Like I said before if I were Messi would leave the club immediately.
I won't sink any further with a bunch of players collecting salary and setting me back when there are many top clubs willing to pay me well with a guarantee of winning major trophies.

Leader or no leader if you win you win.
If you dont win you lose.
It doesn't stop you from winning.

We saw one leader get dumped out by small Ajax last season.
We saw one leader get dumped out by Lyon this season.

So if you're given the choice of losing by 1 goal to semi-finalist Ajax, losing by an away goal to semi-finalist Lyon and losing by 3 unreplied goals to Juve, 3 unreplied goals to Roma, 4 unreplied goals to Liverpool, and a whooping 8 goals to Bayern; you'd choose the latter?

You're not just losing, you're falling apart and bottling on a yearly basis. But according to you, leadership is overrated.

Don't worry, if the last five years is any indication, Barca would do something worse than this 8 2 loss next year. Don't ask me what it is, I'm waiting for you guys and Messi to surprise me.

Last last, Messi fans truly deserve this horrible run of events. I don't know if Barcelona as a club deserves it, but the way you make your bed...

-Lord

Adiwana:
Ronaldo left cause he had a falling out with Madrid not cause he wanted to leave. We saw how the whole Balon dor and his unceremonious exist went. Besides they could afford to lose him knowing fully well Benzema,Ramos were still producing results. Bale just scored goal of the season and with his rant and inclusion of Hazard,Madrid could easily afford to lose Ronaldo

Juve buying him was perfect business for both clubs. Madrid could afford to let him go after all 3 Champions leagues were already in the bag and Juve just needed that final piece in the puzzle

Barca on the other hand is in a way different mess. Losing Neymar,Valverde being at the helm of affairs even after showing he had no business with this club.,Suarez is now a bad player but for God knows what still starts ours games Falling out between players and club administrators,spending big on players that the club has clearly no plans for etc. Way different situations

The falling out is what a non-RM fan will see.

Look closely and you'd realize it was much more than that. Ronaldo wanted to leave for the same reason Zidane left. On the one hand, there was the salary issue, but on the other hand there was the sporting issue. If we hadn't won the UCL in his last season, we'd have ended the season trophyless. We lost the league to the worst Barca team up to that point, were harangued out of the CdR and there were humongous issues in the team.

Earlier in the season Ronaldo criticized the front office for not having sufficient back-up; particularly with Morata and James. He knew if he had stayed, what's happening to Messi now will happen to him. All that Lopetegui and Solari drama, na CR7 name dem go dey call up and down.

Ron's exit is the Madrid way. I wouldn't call it unceremonious. The Balon D'Or was to keep Modric who was on his way to Inter Milan. Now Modric is about to be discarded like Perez had planned to do to Ronaldo if he hadn't pushed to leave.

All parties, Juve, RM, and Ronaldo got something positive out of the deal. There's no guarantee that Juve without Ronaldo would have won the UCL instead of Liverpool last year and this year no one is getting past Bayern. There's no guarantee either that RM with Ronaldo would have won the UCL in both years either... It's hard to keep winning after 3 consecutive successful runs. And Ronaldo gets his salary and a grateful board.

Barcelona's problem is multi-faceted, so it's easy for anyone to pick one party and build a case against them while shielding another party.

I refuse to buy this idea that a player of Messi's standing in Barcelona has very little if any blame in their current predicament. Talisman, captain, and club legend is not only about receiving fat salary and having club official accounts like your wife's social media post. He is either part of the solution or part of the problem; right now it doesn't look like the former.

-Lord

BykeLaByke:
Pep can't hack it against Lyon in the CL quarters.

Wow...such a chequebook manager ffs.

Lyon are lucky. Pep is unlucky. But I'd always relish another Barcaverse personality having a disasterclass.

-Lord

tesppidd:
See ehn; if I was Messi i would leave immediately.
In order not to destroy my legacy and have a chance to get more glory before I retire.

In the past 1 year he has banged goals against Liverpool, Tottenham, Man U, Sevilla, Athletico, Napoli, Inter.

So when you reference Levante, what exactly are you talking about?


Barca's over reliance on Messi could never be over emphasized. You can't pretend it doesn't exist.

But that's a story for another day.



But back to the main issue;

Am sure PSG, Man City, Juve and even Bayern would sign him immediately he declares; screaming hallelujah.

That way he makes life very easy for himself, win more accolades and probably shatters more records.

So if ddippset was Messi, I don waka be that.
If I be Messi Papa, I go even kidnap am force am to leave Barca.


But am neither Messi nor his Pops.

It is me wanting him to stay.

Because I honestly believe that despite everything Barca would be making a grave mistake letting him go now.

Messi himself wouldn't want to take the easy way out and run to another billion pound club.

He would rather sink and swim with Barca.

Such loyalty is rare, and difficult.
It's a much bigger challenge than running to Madrid when they are in form or running to Juve because you can win 10 consecutive scudettos.


Forget what the fans think, even the club and the board would die to keep Messi.

Barca is shiit right now I concede.

But Like i elaborated above, the required clear out would be too massive to do in one fell swoop.
Sure It's long overdue but better late than never!

We need a coach who can build a fresh team while still working to curb the infamous Messi-dependency.

Why should a team with Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho, FdJ, Arthur, Puig, and Fati be over-reliant on Messi?

Is that not a problem? If it's a problem, what has Messi done about it instead of establishing a Messi and Friends Old Boys Association?

You folks will be talking about the over-dependency like it started today or Messi is not directly contributing to it.

And I don't think you should be using the board as a yardstick. If Barto tells me it's about to rain, I'll carry sunglasses instead of an umbrella.

Messi is ruining his legacy and it has nothing to do with seeking a challenge. It's about responsibility. Two seasons back, I was here talking about how Messi is not a leader and it's why I don't rate him much, many cules were saying it's overrated and I'm picking on him because he's not expressive. Here we are two years later and he captained a 8-2 dismantling.

And right on cue, the Messi FC response is "he doesn't deserve this"...

This is not 1 or 2 yrs, na 5 years...

-Lord

tesppidd:
You think you have arrived because you have Vinicus.

See how you got dumped out of UCL home and away by our wife Man City.

Let's see how you will ever smell the UCL again without Ronaldo.

You dumped Ronaldo and Juve snapped him up.
Today Ronaldo is the best thing that has happened to Juve and their next project is to build a team around him.
Juve are keen on building their team around man going to be 36 years old in February.
Let that sink in!
Don't be fooled by your VARliga. Real Madrid without Ronaldo are not special anymore.


The day we let Messi go at 33 is the day we become a very average team that will struggle to be a top team and challenge for la liga.

Griezman and Dembele are not at the level of the next line of superstars like Mbappe, De Bryune, Sterling and Neymar.


Look at the stats Messi posted in la liga this season!
Messi practically bossed the whole of la liga in terms of all the individual stats you can think of.

We let Messi go and a top top top Euopean team will grab him amd build a solid team around him for another 3 years.

You don't get it do you? The world will most likely not see players like Messi and Ronaldo in another 50 years.

They must be pampered.

If you guys had only pampered Ronaldo perhaps with the solid team you have with a lot of fresh blood, both parites (Real and Ronaldo) won't be flopping separately today in the UCL.

They might have even win another UCL together.

Even at 33, I could only think of maybe 3 players with greater ability/value than Messi today.(and that's strictly because of their ages)

Neymar
Mbappe
De Bryune


Barca has 2 options now;

1. Keep Messi and rebuild another fresh team around him for another 3 years.Replace The oldies like Suarez,Rakitic,Alba,Busquets and co with younger better faster players.

2. Let him go to another big European team which would build a solid team around him and try to get the best out of him for another 3 years. Then manage Dembele and Griezman whom we think are our next superstar after Ronaldnho and Messi.

You dey use back hold dam wen 1 burst. Don't say you were not warned.

2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, now 2020. That's five straight years that Messi has been unceremoniously bundled out from UCL. Same Barcelona team.

If this repeats next year, na your fellow cules go begin loud am say e don overdue to comot. And you Messi fans will not be able to stop it. The sentiment is already there. It's bubbling underneath. Every FCB online community has a rapidly rising half who feel the same way. Many are masking it with "other players are awful so he should leave." Very soon na finger dem go start dey point.

Madrid, Juve, and Barca are not on the same page at all. No let results deceive you.

Madrid is rebuilding and things are already looking up.

You can't replace a player like Ronaldo. His time with us has ended. And getting to the UCL SF consecutively is not the norm for any club. That consistency is only possible when stars align. Elite clubs with WC players fumble all the time. That's perfectly normal. Look at Bayern: After this yr, dem go cold. Like Liverpool don cold after two years. Then until 3-5 years before things go click again.

That's where Madrid is at now. And have two trophies, an elite core, and a legendary manager to show for it.

Juve has been punching above their weight. If it wasn't for Allegri's masterclass and a very good core, they had no business getting to 2 UCL finals.

They got Ronaldo for 2 reasons. Commercial appeal to raise revenues and out of desperation after 24 years of lack of success in the UCL. They've got the first. They might yet get the other. They're already rebuilding. They have a core midfield of Rabiot, Bentancur, and Arthur. De Ligt and Demiral are favorites to replace Bonucci and Chiellini. Kulusevski and Dybala are up front. And they're seriously looking to replace Higuain with a young 9.

That's not a board that's building around a 36 year old. They're building a team that'd have a winning mentality, keep winning the scudetto as a baseline, and be favorites for the UCL even after CR7 leaves. They want to be at the level of Madrid, Barca, and Bayern, where every year they're favorites, not have one good year and then drop off.

Ronaldo for his part has single-handedly transformed how the entire top office thinks and hastened the dismantling of the old guard. Mandzukic, Khedira, Pjanic, Matuidi, Barzagli, Buffon. Cuadrado was on his way out, the Cancelo flop got him back in the team. Costa na from operating table to outbound jet nai remain.

Sarri came out after the Lyon ouster and said in the press conference that he was satisfied with how the team played. Bonucci said after the game that they had achieved their season objective (Scudetto) and the UCL is a dream. Hours later, CR7 said on Instagram that a club like Juventus cannot be thinking like that.

Next day, Agnelli (President) said the UCL is no longer a dream but an objective and sacked Sarri. Days after the Sporting Director Paratici said Sarri would get another year.

In comparison, Barcelona is a clusterf*ck. What are you guys doing? What is Messi doing? What is the fanbase doing beyond making excuses for favorite players? You had four whole years to build around 29-yr old Messi after Puyol/Xavi/Neymar/Enrique. I 8-2 point it out that it did not work. Now you want to build around and pamper a 33-yr old Messi? How about you build a very good team and let Messi be the icing on the cake?

This is how Messi destabilized the Argentine national team when talent is overflowing in every region of the pitch and why Argentines have a love-hate relationship with him.

Messi winning Pichichi and assisting in the double digits against the likes of Levante is WHAT YOU EXPECT from a #10 of his caliber. Na Benzema b e mate b4?

Them give am armband, give am highest salary in all of world football, remain small them go rename stadium to Camp Leo; yet for five consecutive years dem just dey embarrass the crest of the club and he's comfortably strolling and dropping shoulder. And you guys are saying he has paid his dues; like the club hasn't also overpaid his own dues. Would Maradona, CR7, Pele, or Zidane accept that nonsense. Na him mates b that... Mk e allow 13 yr-old virgins dey confuse am with adulation.

Mk e no worry, na e legacy e dey destroy. Barcelona is all he has. If na disgrace him use tk comot, na Zidane dem go dey compare am with.

For as long as Messi has stayed, the least Barcelona deserves is him leaving the club better than he met it. Not this dumpster fire that he's engineering. Everytime Messi does not deserve this... Barcelona nko?

Seriously, nai mk me no troll una with the loss, na d club I dey pity... I mean, as a Madrid fan, I couldn't have imagined better entertainment. But it was funny the first 4 years while we had our fairytale B2B2B, now it's just sad.

-Lord

Dickeyrider:
Your bastard Ronaldo got dumped by Lyon so eat my menses

Let it all out... Let it all out...

Here, take a wipe. You go dey alright las las.

Abeg who go escort am go house. SMH. This is just wrong. 8:2. One game.

-Lord

Me I won't troll.

E pain me for una. Chai!

Good night all!

-Lord

BykeLaByke:
If Setien fails to make subs immediately but instead waits till the 80th minute....draft his sack letter.

If Setien fails to put on Dembele or Riqui Puig or Ansu Fati immediately but instead puts any of Rakitic or someone irrelevant...draft his sack letter.

If Setien fails to use his five available subs and turn this game around.....draft his sack letter.

E sack letter suppose don dey transit now...

I had to resurrect for this one. E loud!

Cules kpele! I hold my chest for una... #MeinGott

-Lord

Miremoses1:
Pure joy

ECSTASY!

Congrats to the team, Ser Zidane, and Flo P!

-Lord

Ex Madrid players doing their all to secure our objective.

Gracias Llorente and Morata.

-Lord

PARTE AFTER PARTE!

-Lord

YASS!

Lock that vault. Throw the f*cking key in the River Thames!

-Lord

Upnepaa:
See guy, You can never understand Messi's predicament because you chose a penalty box merchant as your MCM

Since Messi was young and now that he is getting old, he has been man marked and crowded all over the pitch.

Need I remind you that grizemann was the first barca player beside Messi to score a UCL KO goal away from home since 2015. Football is a team sport, even your MCM rely on his teammates to win, in Madrid's last UCL triumph, the last time Ronaldo scored was a penalty in the Quarter finals, his teammates did the job in the semis and the final.

Yet he always dictate the play as a playmaker, exchanging passes with the defensive midfielders. To be a Messi is not a day job, Messi has carried the burden of a club as big as Barcelona since he was young like a young child that lost his parents and was made to fend for himself. Yet Messi is still competing with your MCM goals wise

Please bring forth any moment of Ronaldo being crowded like this, even if it is photoshop, I bet you won't find one because your MCM spend more time in the penalty box more than the penalty spot itself

I don hang boot before but I had to come out of retirement for this.

Ronaldo has been crowded more times than you can count. Attached images.

The best players have multiple opponents on them to cut out space. Everyone gets the same treatment from Iniesta to KDB to Dybala.

There is nothing special about a #10 who's sphere of influence is at the center of pitch having multiple players around him. Where the f*ck do you want the players to be? Whenever Ronaldo is in a position to receive the ball at the middle of the pitch, plenty of players are also around him. When he drifts wide as a primary winger, two men are on him, even though there's just the byline and space is tight.

Watch his games.

No normal player will give Messi, CR7, Neymar, or any elite player space in the modern game if they can help it.

So throw those images in the bin. And stop disgracing people who have more than average knowledge of football.

No, Messi shouldn't be surrounded in the middle third of the pitch. The opposition players should band together at the corner flag. Sometimes the way you guys reason, e b like say na fufu full una head.

As for Ronaldo in the penalty box. Take today's match for instance. He put in at least two superb crosses into the box (chances created), no one could connect to them. But if he's the one at the receiving end in the box, it suddenly becomes a problem.

Why should a 6 foot 2 super-athlete who's the best header in the game not occupy the box? Precisely who should take his place?

Even Dybala and Higuain had tap in opportunities, they couldn't get it on target. Ronaldo gets same opportunities and scores, that becomes a problem.

Both Messi and Ronaldo have honed their games over a decade and play to their strengths. That's why Messi is stat-padding his assist tally by taking corner kicks, while Ronaldo stays in the box to head in corner-kicks because of his height. That's how you guys were complaining about Marcelo-Ronaldo cross-and-nod connection. But not once have I ever heard a complaint about the Messi-Alba lob-pass-cut-back connection.

In no way, shape, or form is Messi better than Ronaldo because Messi has mastered the art of playing through the middle thanks to his long stay at Barcelona. Ronaldo has been there and done that under Ferguson. Instead, CR7 mastered the art of stealth goalscoring. Where you can surround him with players all game long, but just one perfectly measured cross and like a cheat he can tower above and put the ball at the back of the net. EOD!

-Lord

hulk616:
ok when it ends 4 - 0 to Manchester city. I hope you relax well

Zidane should be flogged if that happens.

Pep is starting Otamendi, Gundogan, and Rodri. No Fernadinho, Sterling or Aguero.

Their defense is shaky.

We couldn't have selected a worse lineup for City if we tried.

-Lord

ddippset:
Well then let's say Liverpool and Bayern.

If Liverpool cross Athleti, they could go all the way.

This year is open.

True, Bayern is the scariest at the moment; but I wouldn't sleep on any team that reaches the SF.

E get how Madrid fit display or Messi go wounjure for Camp Nou or Ronaldo go carry form enter UCL; fear go enter Bayern and Klopp body.

-Lord

Igbosmoker:
thank you bro. When you watch their games you'll start thinking how this poor teams are able to win Seria a 7th times in a row.

They can't handle fast attacking team

For the longest time they had by far the most stacked team in Italy.

Also Allegri hacked the league. Score one or two goals, then let the opposition fire blanks at Buffon, Bonucci, Barzagli, and Chiellini for the rest of the game.

-Lord

ddippset:
Hmm

Are you sure?

Their squad depth nor be here.

No let the depth deceive you.

Na noise to intimidate. Simply press the team and you've nullified 95% of their threat.

They're only dangerous when you give them space to operate. Even then, they practically start every game a goal down. So outscoring them is relatively easy.

Juventus are only favorites on paper. If they go all the way, it'd be because it's their year, not because they're exceptional.

-Lord

jpmoriarti:
I hate the way they were always having 10 men behind the ball. For me, that's not football. I think this is the worst park-the-bus I have seen so far. And to think they are playing at home, in front of their own fans. So pathetic! Now these kinds of tactics are now applauded because it gets some result but it is ugly to watch.

It is called Catenaccio. And it's beautiful to watch. It's like watching a hamster frantically try to pry open a jar.

Italians as a collective base love it. They're only changing now because of the global appeal of fast-paced attacking football.

I'm not sure why Gattuso decided to change tactics at half time.

Spanish teams are masters of open space. It always surprises me when teams from other leagues play to Spanish strengths.

-Lord

pu7pl3:
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God damn..who owns this kid? Na you start to dey threaten,
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E no work, now you trying to insult my appearance on a faceless forum, dude you just making it too easy ..I'm forever in your head and nothing you can ever do will change that..you should be grateful,I'm the only semblance of sense your brain can ever know [img]https://media./images/8599601e72d0fac95cdbf6396094687f/tenor.gif[/img][/s]

Still bleating I see.

Incorrigible f*cktard!

-Lord

pu7pl3:
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Sensibility is not your own strong suit...you can never make any sense on this thread again(that's even assuming you used to make little sense in the past) I wonder how these guys here coped with a chronically stupid and senseless bastard like you...

And the more you showcase how stupidly senseless you are the more what I said earlier becomes more and more factual, you can't make any stinking and senseless opinion on this thread anymore without remembering me and how ive put you in your place, Fvcking Clown that you are[/s]

Amateurish Id*ota!

Look at me quaking in my boots. It's as tho' you weren't made to drink enough toilet water or shoved in a locker often enough in elementary school.

[i]Na fan thread you 1 kon show yourself. Dey pump all your mosquito muscle.

Mtschewww!

See as e dey raise shoulder. As I dey c u so, na hunch-back remain.

-Lord

monerozi5590:
Bale is the better goal scorer.

But in Zidane's last season, Bale was on the pitch when we crashed out the CdR.

Everyone knows you're Bale's biggest fan on here, but him playing may not have been enough.

The CdR may just continue to elude Zidane. Even if you eliminate Areola's errors, the opposition had way too many clear-cut chances.

And as far as the lineup is concerned. That lineup should be dispatching Sociedad at home comfortably.

It's one of those freak matches. Nothing much to analyze. That's classic Madrid in a domestic setting.

-Lord

pu7pl3:
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But I own you,[img]https://media./images/dce0863ad3dd0441a6e277ce2c5b0c8e/tenor.gif[/img] and il forever be in your head whenever you want to drop your stinking opinions

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You wish!

Perez is a gambler. Tactics is not Zidane's strong suit. You're a nobody.

Now eat crow!

You no even get shame. Na on top NL fan thread yotu dey form social media influencer!

Agbaya 100%.

I go leave veterans for the thread and section kon dey reason minor thing like you. No heed the warning wen I give you first, d way I go treat your fck up go shock you.

-Lord

pu7pl3:
[s]

Lmao..you keep proving how big of a clown you are do I look like I give the least Fvck about your silly opinions? A clown that can't understand sarcasm...You were the person that crawled out of hiding after weeks to reply me so you can feel fulfilled...

Nigga just stfu..you can stand by your silly backyard opinions, nobody cares, I replied those your comments about Papa Flo cos I wasn't privy to how dumb and petty you were but now you have proved to be an absolute badass in clownery you are no longer afforded that luxury..so even if you want to open your own circus, carry on[/s]

And you keep typing tirades.

B*tch-a$$ nigga!

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:
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I'm now almost certain you do have a crush on me. I notice girls/women tend to use insulting words on me when they like me but don't have the confidence (?) of coming to me and telling me how they feel. I know it must be very difficult going to bed everyday thinking about me but I don't do fellow men although I have nothing against those that do so long they don't try to involve me[/s]

What a twisted a$$wipe!

Here's the easier explanation: They were insulting you because they find you repulsive.

Which explains a lot. Including you stalking me.

If you like drop my moniker again in the future because your finger is itching you. Anuofia!

-Lord

pu7pl3:
Long story short you want us to leave you to always wail and lament in peace like a recently widowed Edo woman at any/every decision and anytime we lose it means you were right all along...got it

In case you haven't noticed I don't give a flying f*ck about what you think I want.

If it wasn't for that demented fagg*t name-dropping my moniker, this conversation would not be happening.

Now that I've set my red line, you'd do well not to cross it in the future. If person nva craze follow una, una no dey knw wen to respect una old age.

-Lord

hopefulLandlord:
[s] you mentioned me twice in one post yet I'm the one that has a crush on you? You made that long sermon only because of me? your reverse psychology is failing woefully. I ain't gay so your crush on me would go nowhere bro[/s]

Nincompoop, I was replying a legitimate question from a fellow who I suspect may not be fully aware of your antecedents.

Little did I know you were counting how many times I had to state your moniker for clarity.

What are you going to do now, being the obsessed tw*t that you are?

Highlight the mentions and frame the post on your bathroom mirror, you sick f*ck?!

-Lord