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Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 11:31pm On Mar 10, 2011
We spend less on defense then Ireland. Nigeria's priorities are fine.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 6:44pm On Mar 08, 2011
kikuyu1:

Fantasy-why do you say that!!? 30 years from now you're slated to be among the top 20 world economies. Can you keep that position without any meaningful indigenous warfighting equipment manufacture capacity including shipbuilding?? I think not,son.
A favourite onyibo tactic is exploiting regional rivalries into war then coming to the 'rescue' with arms embargoes when the victims have already gotten their collective sausage well and truly stepped on by aggressors armed by-guess who?
If I were the prez I'd insist the admirals start with corvette building using serving and ex-navy marine engineers. After maybe 5 or so years of experience they can then begin larger frigates,
My bad, sorry there kikuyu. Your not talking fantasies, I am talking about designing your own navie being a fantasy not your ideas. I agree with Nigeria being a clear African super power in a decade or so, it's going to need strong industries driving it, yet it also need's cooperation. A ship building enterprise can't be set up over night. But there should be a good market for it in Nigeria. If it can build a space programme, give me one reason why it can't build a ship building programme to rival the likes of Germany, that's if Nigeria's government can get it's act in gear.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 6:07pm On Mar 07, 2011
Mariory:

Aren't destroyers obsolete? Frigates are the way foward.
They take more of a beating from missiles then frigates, they can carry more heli's usually. They lay out a political message. They can carry more arnament and can perform more duties. Britain has destroyers for escort duty of the up-coming super-carriers cheesy
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 5:58pm On Mar 07, 2011
@kikuyu1
Good analysis. Like it, but this is fantasy.
Besides Nigeria doesn't really need a ship building industry. Pretend your the president or minister of defence. Your admirals come to you with a nice long list, what would be on that list? grin
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 10:50pm On Mar 01, 2011
So who's up for a bit of fantasy grin
Basically we come up with a our own Nigerian navy like the ships we would want in it.

I'll bravely risk the scorn of Nigeria first wink

2 LPD- Probebly the Galicia class
2 Destroyers- Similar to British Daring class
5 Frigates- Meko A200SAN (Valour Class)
8 Missile boats- Stick with the Combattante III
4 Hunter-Killer subs- Diesel Type 214
2x Fleet AOR- Fort-class replacements
2x Fleet tanker- Leaf class
1x Forward repair- Based along the lines of future Diligence class
2x Ice breakers- For research and fun wink

This list wont include OPV's and other ships not meant for war. Nigeria is the next in line for super power status in all of Africa. Europe has lost it's influence and power ( angry) and now it's Nigeria's turn to take Africa forward. I know Nigeria needs to work on poverty first but like I said, fantasy. Don't get too workerd up and have fun grin
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 11:03am On Dec 23, 2010
xterra2:

^^ My first line meant that no one would send peacekeepers there , he ordered them out, by reality no one would send any peacekeepers in
Sorry my bad, thnx for clearing that up.
Why do you think that though? I am only saying ECOMOG might go in if there is civil war in IC
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 12:53am On Dec 22, 2010
xterra2:

^^^ When he ordered Peace Keepers out of his country?
So should we be like US that interfere with matters of other countries ? No

always go to Cnn.com everyday, and read the news
errr what does the first line mean?
I was also reffering to Nigeria participating as a peace mission for ECOMOG. Possibly the first test of the African standby force. And only if the coast went back to civil war which it has shown strong signs of severe violence.
And what does your last line mean?
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2010
ECOMOG might be heading to the Coast soon if things boil over there. Nasty scenes right now.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 11:59pm On Nov 28, 2010
lol the Nigerian Police have stretch limo jeeps in armoured plateing. Wouldnt mind getting arrested in that smiley
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 7:29pm On Oct 20, 2010
So who's excited about that new proposal the navy made to the money men cheesy
Imagine Nigerian navy=
2- frigates
12- OPV's
2- LPD's shocked
3- Subs
1- hydrographic ship
2- Mine counter measures
2- Corvettes
20- Helicopters
20- Long range helis

Nice huh? kiss
But do you think they will get all this stuff or some of it or well nothing. cry
Ah well until then, keep on floating Aradu cool
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 9:07pm On Oct 14, 2010
Nive pics of those guys in uniform. cheesy
wink
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I refuse to help you angry











damm, May as well count me in cheesy
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 10:24pm On Oct 06, 2010
Onlytruth:

^^

I'm laughing. sad sad

Nigerian special forces look like MEND. undecided

When they enter the creeks, they will meet people who are similarly kitted, and armed with the same field rifle (AK-47).

I wonder why Nigeria has not been able to design a field sub-machine gun for 40 years.

Biafra was able to design one and used it during the war.

Anytime I see Nigeria military parading AK-47s, I simply dismiss them. undecided

Until I see a Nigerian weapon designed for African operations -rain, mud, sand, dust, rust, and designed to function in support of our best instincts (as Africans, no pun intended), I will remain unimpressed.

If they don't know that there is something known as "empathic design" even in weapons, then, we are still not serious. cool
The AK-47 can support in all those enviornments you mentioned. As for "African", what do you mean? Whats the difference between you and a Russian? I was actually impressed with the camo and armour the troops were wearing in the parade.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 12:53pm On Oct 02, 2010
Any moretributes to be made?
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 7:27am On Sep 09, 2010
I'm sorry but saying that in the future you will have threats is not sufficent when you are asking your country to cough up billions for unknown threats? undecided
As for the Uganda thing, the Russian press and the producers of the plane have said they sold them some. However Ugandan generals have denied it. Right now it is very confusing. There is no real way of telling.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 5:44pm On Sep 07, 2010
xterra2:

Okay yeah infact let the government not buy typhoons they are expensive if we can lease Flankers it would be better some europeans countries dont have a single fighter jet of theirs or some lease jets shocked
Even buying any fighter jet not 5th gen is kinda a waste of money (not exactly if its on an aircraft carrier)
Let us just buy 100 PAK-FA for $1billion wink wink common seems like a little money to Nigeria
IF we are to join the 20 topmost ecocomies by 2020 ( to me seems achievable) we need a formidable military with PAK FA it is a good investment as they only jet matchable to is is the Raptor not even the JSF is better than it (from what iv read from 20 different websites )
With that no country can talk poo to nigetia knowing 100 stealt aircraft in its inventory, just as we now they said camerooun wants obudu right ,
PS we need to invade and collect bakassi back.nigeria as a great country needs to be military strong even uganda wants 6 flankers as useless as they are to do what ?
And part of having a good military we need an aircraft carrier

First off some Euro countries dont need permanant jets. Some are too small or have economic probs in the east or are part of allainces such as NATO, CIS or even the EU (has some military jurisdiction for euro countries to protect euro countries). Not to mention Europe has no real threats from military.
Secound, 100 PAK planes are not 1 billion. shocked
If you look at wiki for a general sum (never going to be accurate) then 10 PAK's would make 1 billion. That would not include maintainence and training which would triple that probebly.
Third,Becoming part of the top 20 (which I seriously doubt by 2020) means showing responsibility. Try getting into the top 30 GDP per capita countries before you think you have money to throw around. In other terms feed your people. Buying an air-craft carrier is NOT reponsible at your current economic situation!!!
Finally the Cameroon will not attack you militarily to get the places it desires. It will use the same methods it did to get the first. Peacefully, so tell me a real threat that is on Nigeria's door-step,

PS: Uganda is not getting those planes. The reports appear to be false. They have claimed that they are sending Mig's back to Russia for overhaul. If they were true though, they would be laughed at and treated as a disgrace. To put so much funds (approx 1.6 bill) to pay for those planes when Uganda is struggling to feed it's kids as well, would tarnish their reputation and basically they would be an epic fail. Do you want Nigeria to look like some gun loving piss house? Not even your Military leader back in the 20th centuary did that.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 9:14pm On Sep 06, 2010
odumchi:

There is no Question about the bravery of our troops but I have a question. When will we begin to use modern equipment. The only modern thing I saw in these pictures are our artillery trucks other than that everything is outdated. Even our planes MiGs are planes of the past and we need new fighter planes and bombers. If we maintained close relations with the U.S. maybe we could get some F16s.

We need modern cruisers, heavy tanks, if we had enough money we could have bought an aircraft carrier. Im tired of seeing MiG 21s everywhere (MiG21s are over 40 years old).
Body armorf will also save hundreds of thousands of lives and by looking at this picture i see nothing like that.
Another thing I dislike seeing is our troops packing themselves and riding in pickup trucks that are loaded to the limit. You will never see professional armies like that of Britain or the Untied States doing that. Other than that Good Luck army
grin
1. Bombers are for strategical use, multirole fighters hit tactical ground targets
2. Only 5 countries have cruisers, they are expensive and in your case, an unessasery toy
3. Heavy tanks are no longer used, MBT's (which you have plenty) are primiry along with light tanks for some.
4. Air-craft carriers are not needed by you, get that straight. You can transport planes by re-assembling them at bases in the foreign area, not even China has one. Your navy has put forward a serious request it seems to your money men for new nvy equipment like LPD's which if they go through, will create jobs and allow you to transfer armour on peace-keeping missions.
5. You dont lose 100s of thousands of men. I dont think Nigerias lost more then 50,000 men in its entire military history as a nation. Also Nigerian troops have body armour.
6. Britain uses WMIK's, these are pretty much jeeps with machine guns. Similar to what you described as what would never be seen. And they are used not only in N.Ireland but also in Afghanistan. Infact the UK used them to great effect in WW2 in N.Africa. I dont know about the US but they have a GDP above 14 trillion. Nigeria is still in the billion catergory.

You see most of the stuff you demanded was useless. Why dont any of you give explanations as to why you need this stuff? Like Ethiopia has to worry about Eritrean build-up so they need high-tech weaponry. Can Nigeria claim that as well? Oh yes I hear Benins quite the menace (LOL) grin undecided
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 6:14pm On Sep 06, 2010
xterra2:

It would be best if we buy 12 Eurofighter Typhoon (or more ) though Very Expensive it is just behind the raptor at the moment and slightly better than the fulcrum or flanker
Then we place an order for PAK-FA when the russians are done building it and we give the typhoons to the navy and out it on an aircraft carrier , F-16, is being replaced with the JSF, but we have to make sure we get the PAK-FA as the JSF is below it
Lol you want Typhoon's? Why? It's kind of a kick in the teeth to have people asking for aid then their governments spending millions on some jet fighters that bear no reality of the threats facing Nigeria now. You then want the PAK-FA?! I'm going to throw up with these sort of comments. 5th generation!!! You getting that? 5TH GERNERATION = BILLIONS!!! My god! Someone really needs to take a look at the world with a more serious view. Now I could have said a lot more shit then that about your thoughts but something tells me it's not going to get through to you. Remind me again why you need an aircraft carrier?
Heres what, you can give away all your money, everything you own, go live on the street and be the first to declare you gave your money to a "good cause" (the military stuff). Then say whether you are so eager for weapons. Give me one example of a formiddiable enemy operating anywhere near Nigeria? Or even one that has 4th generation+ fighter craft in west Africa (Excluding Algeria/Morroco who would not be able to project their forces to Nigeria)?

Anyway, anyone got any more pics to cheer me up cry
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:15am On Jul 30, 2010
texazzpete:

@Beaf
The chinese use them as a mass deterrent. They know the F-7 is drastically inferior to any modern fighter, but that disadvantage is really reduced because the chinese can put swarms of them in the air at a time.

To put things in perspective, a handful of Egyptian Air Force F-16s will comfortably destroy most of our chinese F-7s in minutes.

Fun fact: the egyptian air force has and can use Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles. What were you saying about the NNS Aradu again?

Wow thnx for the info on China. I see what your saying though I am struggling to see why they would keep upgrading the F-7 and buying newer models just to deter when they can keep the numbers of the old ones instead of throwing them out.
And as for the F-16's, may be they will and they will no doubt have air superiority but are they capable of hitting Nigeria? Does Egypt want to hit us? Like Blemhein said:
"Defence acquisition is based and interplay of threat assessment, threat evaluation, foreign policy, geopolitical posture and economic standing."
Also about the fun fact, I dont see why you included it? I mean Nigeria has Otoman missiles which can also take out Egyptian war ships. The Otoman has been known to penetrate even modern US ships defences in test runs and since the Egptians are using old secound-hand ones, Were you getting that idea of when we were talking about the Aradu and it was close to when I mentioned Nigeria COULDNT take on Egypt if they were right next to each other?
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 1:47pm On Jul 29, 2010
Beaf:

The F-7 is a MIG-21. Period.
It is an old, crancky and useless plane. You know why the Iraqi's buried their planes in the desert and flew the majority they didn't have the time to bury off to their mortal enemy, Iran? Because they are useless planes; no serious country flies that rubbish and all those who flew it are phasing it out (including the likes of Pakistan).
Yes the F-7 is the Chinese one of the Mig-21 but you are getting modern versions
If they are getting rid of the F-7 (Chinese) then why have they made a recent purchase of them in 2003?!
There are nations getting rid of their J-7's but they are the likes of Pakistan and have you seen their neighbourhood. They're "best friend" India is getting all these 4.5 generation fighters and the US is right on their doorstep. China sits on top of them and they have an insurgency where they need accurate ground attack units.


Who will attack us? Perhaps you haven't heard the latest that Cameroon is no claiming Obudu ranch in addition to Bakassi. If we had MIG-35's and other equivalent weapons, they wouldn't have dared.
So what if they are caliming it? You think they will try and take it by force?  undecided
You could hold them off with our F-7's, your Jaguar's or even your Alpha Jets, you have 4x more then them, of those jets.
You could invade them if you wanted to, do you think they could stop you?


If the rationale for decripit weapons is that nobody will attack us, then we are better off arming our brave souls with sticks and catapults to save money.
Im saying who would attack us in the state we are in now? No one, 

Answers in Bold
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 7:58am On Jul 29, 2010
Beaf:

The Chengdu F7 is a glorified MIG-21. . .And MIG-21 entered service in 1959!!! WWII tech. embarassed
Why can't we have MIG-35 equivalents, if since the 70's we have had MIG 21's? If cost is the problem, we can buy advanced aircraft from South Africa, Pakistan, India etc. We don't need planes that start with "car keys" in this high tech day and age. How long will we defend this backwardness?

I am glad you mentioned Iraq and how their airforce was taken to the cleaners in less than two days. We are an oil producing nation like Iraq, there is no example more apt of why we need a modern airfoce, navy and army. lets stop hailing the crap weapons our men risk their lives with. We owe them much more.
The F-7 was made in 1966 and was different (not completely) but it was defiantly better if only slightly. And why would the likes of China, Pakistan and Egypt all be using them (along with just under a dozen other nations). Nigeria has bought modern F-7's that meet the needs it has. Why does it need Mig-35's? Who will attack them?
Also Iraq gave up theirs after 2003 when they were invaded. The air force was disbanded and it would have been impossible to maintain 80 F-7's with no piolets or maintainance crews,
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 7:53am On Jul 29, 2010
Paca-Z:

South Africa Southafrica, they are always boldly saying 50% of the population is poor , 90%+ are "the owner of the house" @ lordangers , yet (they)-(90%+ the strangersAt Lordangers) have and are producing such weapons.

no body is unnecessarily blowing Nigeria's trumpet all we r saying is a little wow, cos most African nations dont't have up to that and pls i said most, 40/53 at least is still most. So if Nigeria is trying to get its priorities right y be negative? People are hungry, homeless, without regular light and drinking water, plus the regrettable corruption here and there, regular crisis, and u want them to go and buy such expensive stuff?|

for your concern with the soldiers in fact from the pictures and in reality those going on missions are well equipped no-one sends them with hunter's gun. that's why like i mentioned there are allies and organizations like UN and Au fyi.
SA is run by a black nationalist group. Thosse whites you are reffering to are Africans. They built up thee industrys and are not strangers. They have been there for well over a centuary and instead of them owningthe diamond mines, it would be rich foreigners taking money and resources out of the economy. White SA keeps the money in the country. South Africa produces some of the best weapons in the world. The US have used their design's even and they are a world-wide distributer. This market they have forced themselves into has created jobs, increased trade and of coarse supplemented the SANDF (Their military). Now I am not saying Nigeria should start up an industry or buy loads of weapons. I've been saying in other posts how you must counter the threats most well known to you and since Nigeria has no well known external threat, it doesnt need the latest equipment. It needs to keep it's people's needs in mind to stop civil unrest by giving them a good standard of living. Air craft carriers wont do that.
And I am sorry but what were saying about the 40/53 thing and what does it mean?
Also Nigeria is well equiped enough to go out on it's own peace-keeping missions without the need for UN and AU support, they are well equiped for those.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 1:59pm On Jul 28, 2010
wooooah whats all this about F-16's and Apache's?  shocked
About the J-7's, it came out about 2/3 decades after WW2 and production was only halted in 2008. It has seen sucsessful service in Africa with Zimbabwe (It's involvement in the 2nd Congo war) and with Tanzania (Ugandan-Tanzanian war in stopping Libyan Tu-22's). Only three air forces in the world have given them up and stopped using them altogether. Mozambique, because of it's civil war and being unable to maintain them. Iraq because of how it was beaten and Albania because it didnt see the need to maintain the size of it's armed forces. Nigeria has bought 15 modern versions of the jet (3 appear to be advanced trainers). They aint bad and Nigeria doesnt really have an air force to contend with in the region? You dont really need interceptors in peace-keeping missions and these are replacing older versions of the Mig-21 which is a sign of progression.

As for the rest of the Nigerian air force, well other fighters are sitting on the ground and will probebly be taken out altogether soon, you have plenty of light attack aircraft such as Aermacchi MB-339 (12) and even your nearest rivals (Cameroon) jets are your trainers as the Alpha Jet (24). Theres between 100-200 basic trainers, well over a dozen heavy transports. Your helicopters are found in a few modern armies such as Europe, Russia and the US. And theres well over 50+. Now where does Nigeria need F-16's? If they've got them then thats well ok. A bit unessasery but whatever. Anyway Nigeria if the big daddy in the region. Even if you brought all the air forces in West Africa together they could match this or come anywhere close.

Paca-Z:

oh ok, if u guys are nt racist why don't u allow a Nigerian into the throne of England and /or become your prime minister? Does it mean u r Racist , no! because its your country. you won't build a house and leave a total stranger to come live and control u in YOUR house, would you?
Lol the throne is inherited? wink
Also we have a black labour candidate going for the leadership to lead the secound biggest party in the UK (they only lost by a margin)
Theres the black president of the US kiss
And if you woulnt mind showing me any significant white person at the head of your country? Or may be the leader of your local area. Also should we stop letting blacks settle in Europe and the US because we built our "House" and we dont want you in it? May be we should deport all the afro-Americans? I wouldnt want that but by your way of logic that would be the best soloution?
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:50am On Jul 28, 2010
Paca-Z:

I want to believe you are not insinuating i am racist. am a realist , and i do not judge people by their skin color,or nationality. angry

Pls give some respect to the (THE) slave trade, where people wer packed like sardines for weeks living on bearly nothin, no need to go into that it serves no purpose.

Posted by: lordangers
Posted by: cap28
For me , ironically i find it funny that u guys make such remarks, because i wonder how perfect the other countries who you guys love so much have been to their people and others outside the life's they have destroyed, in many different WAYS , pLS all "normal ''people here, including our dear poster, know about the downs of nigeria, (Noting , your statements are barely true) but we want to publicize the good on this thread, pls take the bad of Nigeria and the good of the "Perfect" countries u love so much to another thread , oh or better still their national website lets see if the perfect people will allow u to do that.

First off you were the one who said you were proud to have an all black leadership. In most other countries they strive to have equality where you arnt blocked off from politics for example just because of your skin colour. You dont like any non-blacks in your leadership. You said that, not me.
I gave respect to the slave trade. I said it was bad but we stopped it (because we knew it was bad) and tbh you never bothered to stop your own slave trade in Africa. Today it is reduced which is great but dont stick two fingers up to America and say it is a super-power merely because it had a slave market. I mean look at Africa, where's its super power?
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 12:34pm On Jul 27, 2010
MandingoII:

All little boyz like to play G.I joe, Until they are in Combat and despoiling and pisssin on themselves

not to mention watching their comrades get their heads blown off.

keep dreaming of being in uniform. your dream just may come true.

the U.S. Army is looking for Igbo volunteers.,,,,,,,,,,,google it.
This is a tribute to the Nigerian forces. We aint day-dreaming just bringing up public knowledge and some cool looking pics. You may be in the army (by the sound of your post i'm guessing you are) but that doesnt give you the right to rant and rave about what people wish to do with their time. Thats their concern.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:41am On Jul 27, 2010
Paca-Z:

It is very necessary for Nigerians to travel outside. u talk of local champions? When u come OUTSIDE u realize Nigeria is actually great!

one cannot compare America and Nigeria. they are simply incomparable! if we had their ancestors for almost 400 years of slave trade , build all the road networks, our "Black House" in Abuja, bus system, rail ways, primary military and other amenities, probably we will not be doing those things now we have returned to build our country!

What of Southafrica? The person who posted the picture of the equipped police is nt even ashamed of the color of the person in case u r suffering from temporary blindness the person is white.For your information if u remove the white influence from southafrica they r nothing. Look at the top 4 banks in Africa for example the top 3 are south African_ ALL FREAKING DUTCH CONTROLLED but to the best of my knowledge i do not think the CEO of Intercontinental Bank- Nigeria is White, the no4 , actual No1 In Africa operated by Africans.When u allow the white people to control you that is wat u get A well developed military equipments and all. Another Example is senegal. They don have close to the whites but the whites are getting their maximum resources!


no one is saying Nigeria is the best but don't compare wrong countries , Nigeria to the best of my Knowledge had Biafran war, Niger delta crises , and other daily problems, but still has this? All those criticizing what have you honestly done to help get the dream weapons? After all people like bill gates started from his father's garage so u do not need millions do you?

Nigeria like every country has its up's and downs, but as a 90% black controlled country deserves praise and credit for such development even if they are minute.Slowly but surely we will get there if u give Nigeria 400 years of slavery time lost plus 50 yrs i think America of now will nt be a village but a HAMLET.

We have work to do but if u do not recognize your accomplishments the country can never move forward. the bad is always more than the good. the Bad is always published everywhere, someone tries to publish some good and all people can do is post nonsense? post southafrica stuff on their website, get their passport and join them as a black maid or houseboy cos that's wat all the blacks are doing if u don't know.]

Thank you dear poster , you realize Nigeria is not perfect has so many Problems like the irritating ignorant fools bark about it but you post something useful and hopeful and those with proper brains will see how to improve what we have as we are still the greatest REAL AFRICANS with all our Alexander the Great weapons. thanks man u r a true Person not just patriotic but u have lot of common sense which i have seen is very uncommon to some people.

Can u imagin comparing a country that virtually has the whole world as their enemies with Nigeria? why don't u compare baby us and its mother UK? Pls keep us posted i enjoy the pics. The country i live in in Africa does not even have a military airport. And they believe they are the best in west Africa.

Pls for God's sake don;t "Quote "" me in the box thingy, just reply @ me and type your Quote it is ignorant and illetrate and foolish to repost what i posted entirely. Thanks No dis-respect intended.
God bless Nigeria We have 400 years + i think America was nt near this 100+ years after Amerigo Vespucci discovered it.

Well I wasnt comparing the US to Nigeria. I said neither could prepare for every thing that is thought up as a threat. I wasnt comparing them in what they had in military terms.
Also I dont really agree when people talk about the slave trade and say white's were the only bad ones. Yes it was bad and we stopped it. But you did it to blacks before we came and to a much worse extent. Whites didnt just enslave blacks but whites as well. Every culture has had it, the slave trade is a black person tring to make a link to the US. Even nowadays you have a slave trade in Africa again, to a far greater extent then anywhere else on the planet.
Dont get me wrong I dont like it when you cant control your own country's wealth like the banks you pointed out, but does it matter what colour they are? I mean a white S.African is a S.African. The money the bank makes get's channeled back into your economy. I dont agree with foreign owned banks in a country but we have it here in my country (UK), it's in every country (with the exception of a few along the lines of Zim and North Korea) where a buisness is foreign owned. Africa is no real exception except you can see whether their foreign owned because you base them on their skin.
You also do need millions to by weapons. Bill Gates was an entrepenur who had a unique idea, you cant really get unique ideas when purchesing weapons, it's pretty much straight forward, then maintaining and training crews for them and whatever. I'd rather you had loads of money so your military didnt end up degrading the standard of living in Nigeria but hopes will hopefully not turn to dreams rather instead reality. And i find it kind of unerving how you can refer to weapons as "dream weapons". Although I like it that you have great security lets not try and get to proud in pulling resources to kill people.
And yes well done for having black people in charge of your country. You must be so proud to not be able to look behond someones skin color. kiss cry
Finnaly some positive thinging with how the good is always greater then the bad. grin
Ooops and sorry for quoting you but tbh I dont really care when you think to belittle others merely because they disagree with you and you give a hate speech about other countries including my own. lipsrsealed
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:30pm On Jul 25, 2010
Thnx Homerac

texazzpete:

Always laughable to see you people hype these outdated armament here. Of course it's a no-brainer that the Nigerian millitary will cream Ghana. try taking on the likes of Egypt and Ethiopia and you'll see the difference.

NNS Aradu? Please. All the Ghanaians need to do is cough up $10 million for a pair of Exocets.

it's one thing to be patriotic, but don't try and hype the Naija millitary any more than the 'local champions' they are.

I can see what your saying about comparing with other militarys of Africa. But tell me where is the need for Nigeria to get Abrams so it can fight rebels in the delta, or going on peace-keeping mission's to Liberia where right now that sort of heavy armour isnt needed. Egypt hase problems with Sudan in the South and it is the stepping stone for Africa into the middle East. Whilst Ethiopia has done numerous peace-keeping missions (e.g Somalia) where heavy weapons have been used and the need for maximum force has been required. There is also the small fact that their once friendly neighbour fought a 2 year war that led to the deaths of 70,000-100,000 soldiers and is still looking for that land they never got. Nigeria doesnt nessarily live in a peaceful part of the world (at least it didnt compared to the rest of Africa at one point) but it has different critereas then those two you mentioned. You cant prepare for every threat, just the ones which are the more realistic. No nation can get ready for every type of threat. Not even the US.
But if they were right next to each other and had a little bit of push and shove, then yes Nigeria would have a few disadvantages but not against Ethiopia. May be their Su-27's would be hard to take down but Nigeria could probebly do it all in the end.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:52am On Jul 25, 2010
xterra2:

^^^^well it seems you are a bad belle embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
As the page said There are two units of this (two of same type as NNS amabe and this was taken before refurbishment as you forgot to see the description maybe,,,,but anyway are you saying that Ghana would defeat us or we can defeat them I think we can do so

Well they obviosuly couldnt invade you but I would say you would have a tough time trying to take over all of Ghana. Those Amphibeous ships look good but how many trips with those 2 ships have to take from Lagos (or if there is a port nearer in Nigeria to Ghana) to Ghana, to get at least say 50 tanks. Then you have to continuasly supply them. Then you also need artillery, other armoured veacils and if things go bad an escape route. And they cant just shift all that stuff back, along with troops, But I'd say they could do it, hard but Nigeria could do it
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 10:25pm On Jul 24, 2010
Well homerac7,
Nice post. Didnt know some of those great facts like the support ships. Good to find out. Hopefully someone can bring up some pics (this page has a good few pics, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=676834&page=11). Though there are some things. Like you mentioned the firgate (Aruda) and one of the corvette's (Erin'mi) as being capable enough to single-handly remove the Ghanaian navy, which I would agree with if they were combat ready. Infact at many points, due to poor maintanance, Aruda struggled to move. Both have been classed as sea-worthy not combat able. As for your fast attack craft well it's yet to be determined whether they are within suitable range. Even if they are, only one of them is operable (Ekun, P183) according to this site (http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/africa/africa.htm#nig).
About the jets I dont mean to be rude but how many Kilometers would a Nigerian J7 have to travel to avoid crossing over Togolese or Benin air space. You would go round the south and target lets say Ejura in the south Central part of Ghana if you felt like being mean. Then you have to return. Me being the idiout I am did not bother to thing about airal refueling (I presume you can obviously do it lol) and other means such as the extra fuel tanks you mentioned so no point in me trying to defend that anymore. grin
So if you have anything else to say I will shut up and respect it and move on lol. lipsrsealed

@Daffur,
Nigerian troops are not in Somalia. You offered but decided not to send. Also yes you did well in Liberia but it wasnt all you, remember that. Then there is Darfur. You say you are the only ones there. Fraid not. If you do a quick check-up of the peacekeeping mission in Darfur you'll find the full list of countries involed.

As for you paddy  angry
Great pics as usual  smiley
Never knew they had UAV's and I think you described it as home-grown as well which is nice to hear. Looks a little frail so I wouldnt know whether it could take much of a battering from the elements but again some really good pics.

Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 1:25pm On Jul 09, 2010
funmi2010:

They deserve praise for preserving democracy
Yeah your right. They've made mistakes but it seems like Nigeria is trying to make amends. Anyway some great pics and info mariory.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 4:34pm On Jul 04, 2010
Mariory:

@lordangers
Please try your best to ignore these people. An argument is exactly what they are after. It is the best way they can derail this thread. Do you see that this thread has now moved to discussing things totally unrelated to the topic. This is what they want.

So please, let them post their filth, it won't last long. smiley
Sure thnx Mariory. I think I'll go look for some new pics. May be of the navy but I dont think I'll find anything much better then Paddy's lol.
Politics / Re: Tribute To Nigerian Military In Pictures by lordangers(m): 8:05am On Jul 04, 2010
mens dept:


You cannot have a "tribute" without persons having a response. I guess you guys thought you could bombard us with deceptive facts and overload us with millions of bright pictures and we would smile and agree like ZOMBIE,

Yes you can give your opinion on the Nigerian military. You dont have to agree. Paddy_lo would try and convince you about the Nigerian military and you would either agree or disagree with him. If you dont agree with his thoughts on the Nigerian military then sure post. If you have anything else other then that and/or how you agree with him then piss off. Set up a thread of your own. This one was going great till then. People were saying what they thought on the Nigerian mil and we were getting on with it.

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