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Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 5:37am On Oct 29
erico2k2:
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​Adam — Married to Eve (Genesis 2:22–25).
​Noah — Married to his unnamed wife, who entered the Ark with him (Genesis 7:7).
​Isaac — Married only to Rebekah (Genesis 24:67). Unlike his father Abraham or son Jacob, Isaac remained strictly monogamous throughout his life.
​Joseph — Married to Asenath, daughter of Potiphera (Genesis 41:45).
​Moses — Married to Zipporah (Exodus 2:21).
​(Note: Numbers 12:1 mentions a "Cushite woman," which biblical scholars debate as either a descriptor/epithet for Zipporah or a second wife, though Zipporah is his only explicitly named spouse).
​Boaz — Married to Ruth (Ruth 4:13).
​Job — Married to his wife who survived his trials (Job 2:9, Job 42:12–13).
​Hosea — Married to Gomer (Hosea 1:2–3).
​Isaiah — Married to "the prophetess" (Isaiah 8:3).
​Ezekiel — Married to his wife, referred to as "the desire of his eyes" (Ezekiel 24:15–18).

So we can see clearly the Bible also supports monogamy, your assertion that it is merely European innovation is defeated.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 8:50pm On Oct 28
erico2k2:
SO how did Adam and Eve bare kids?
The Bible presents Adam and Eve as the first human couple, joined by God in the Garden of Eden. Genesis 2 describes God creating Eve from Adam’s rib to be a suitable companion, emphasizing equality, unity, and partnership (Genesis 2:21-22)
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. When Adam first saw Eve, he recognized her as “bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh,” marking the beginning of their marital relationship (Genesis 2:23)
christianfaithguide.com
christianfaithguide.com
. The text refers to Eve as Adam’s wife and Adam as her husband, confirming their marital status (Genesis 2:25; 3:6)
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This is irrelevant to the issue. Adam had one wife or can you point out to anywhere on the Bible where it says he had more than 1.
Politics › Re: ‘₦70,000 Can Just Buy 50 Litres Of Fuel’, Atiku Mocks Tinubu’s Relief To Workers by LordReed(m): 8:48pm On Oct 28
dre11:
Atiku's Aide, Phrank Shaibu



Source
Which last less than 2 weeks in a Toyota Corolla.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 8:43pm On Oct 28
Dtruthspeaker:
Oh, 🫢you mean you were replying him that several prophets had one wife and you were listing that Isaac, Moses, Isaiah, etc.had one. Oh sorry. 😬
I did not expect you would ever say this. I am most most sorry for calling you a liar.😭😭😭
Please forgive me.😬
LoLz. Forgiven.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 8:42pm On Oct 28
erico2k2:
it is, even people marry thier sister like Adam and EVe
That is not supported by the evidence. Unless you want to show me Isaiah's other wives then your point fails.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 3:02pm On Oct 28
Dtruthspeaker:
You have come with your lies again Isaiah never had 2 wives

AI Overview
The Bible does not record that the prophet Isaiah had two wives.
• Wife's Identity: Isaiah is mentioned as having one wife, whom he refers to simply as "the prophetess" in Isaiah 8:3.
• Children: Scripture records that they had at least two sons with symbolic prophetic names: Shear-Jashub and Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz (Isaiah 7:3, 8:3).

Moses never had to wives like Rasak Okoya and co

If at all, the worse is that he was married twice just like Chris oyaks and chris okotie and no one calls that polygamy.

And isaac had only one wife. And he was not a prophet.
AI Overview
According to the biblical record, Isaac had only one wife, Rebekah.

But I'm sure you meant to say Jacob. And Jacob does not count because he was deceived into having it. "Deception invalidates an action".

AI Overview
In legal, ethical, and contractual frameworks, deception inherently invalidates an act or agreement because it destroys the core requirement of genuine consent. When one party relies on a lie or a misrepresentation, their choice is no longer truly voluntary or informed.

And then Deuteronomy 17:17 shows God completely bans polygamy which by the time the Bible reaches Malachi you no longer see any Israelite with more than one wife.

So, you see, you are lying as you usual do
Is it reading comprehension or blindness that is giving you issues?
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 2:59pm On Oct 28
erico2k2:
YOu amongst the few these pastors use to cash out, who told you MOSES had just one wife? your Pastor I guess and I also guess you was too lazy or ignorant to read your Bible yourself and get your own knowledge. Bro go and read the bible well, Moses had more than one wife.
Bro I don't believe in the Bible so try not to be condescending towards me. I am taking an objective view of the subject so I am not coloured by belief or the need to defend the text.

Yes there is disagreement about how many wives Moses had and there is no consensus on the matter.

Even if you discount Moses there are still others plus the married Apostles apparently only had one each. So the claim that monogamy is a European concept is not supported by the evidence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 9:08am On Oct 28
erico2k2:
Bro check am how many prophets in the bible get one wife huh?
This one wife thing is not from the bible, its from England
Several. Isaac, Moses, Isaiah, etc.

Let's be clear though, the Bible supports both monogamy and polygamy.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Compliments Nicki Minaj's Backside (vid) by LordReed(m): 9:00am On Oct 28
kingxsamz:
This is the man who many Nigerian so called MAGA Christians look up to btw.
If Obama said this, they'd call it satanic agenda to make degeneracy acceptable. Imagine a president who's a married man, making sexual remarks at another married woman.
Melania Trump thinks it's ok, it's just locker room talk she says.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran & Qatar Leaders Meet Putin In Moscow To Discuss War (Photos) by LordReed(m): 5:02am On Oct 28
WriterNig:
Iran & Qatar Leaders Meets Putin In Moscow To Discuss War (Photos)


🔗 Al Jazeera | | Times Of Israel
Wait the same Qatar that gave Trump a 747 jet? LoLz.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 11:00am On Oct 27
muhmeen:
Prophet Israel T. Ford and Pastor Lydia Ford, leaders of LifeWorks Church near Cleveland, Ohio, announced Shakayla Ford as Israel's second wife, framing it as God's will and citing Exodus 21:10.

Lydia herself introduced Shakayla positively to the congregation, and photos show the three posing happily together.

Israel posted on Facebook that the 'one wife only' teaching is unbiblical, while critics cite 1 Timothy 3:2 and traditional Christian emphasis on monogamy from major denominations.

Supporters reference Old Testament examples of polygyny, sparking wide online reactions from shock to defense.


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This is how Mohammed claimed the god told him he can have more wives. LoLz.
Christianity Etc › Re: Divine Technologies Available For Our Taking by LordReed(m): 11:00am On Oct 26
Interesting15:
We also explored believers like us who walked in some out-of-the-roof dimensions by the Spirit, including how Philip was teleported spectacularly right before the Ethiopian eunuch.

Now, why are we not seeing these things in today's Christianity circles? It is simply because we have reduced faith to Sunday service and rationalized away the supernatural.
Rather the simple explanation for why such doesn't happen today is that such "magic" doesn't exist. No matter how irrational you get you will never be teleported anywhere just by prayer or some wuuwuu holy spirit shenanigans. The fact is modern Christians can see that these so called supernatural things are so far fetched that some have began to take these tales as allegorical.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 11:17am On Oct 24
DeepSight:
You can say that again my friend.
Bro when you have the chance listen to this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcpQkvBCACw
Christianity Etc › Re: God-fearing: A Personal Reflection On Moral Agency by LordReed(m): 11:48am On Oct 23
Roycemadeit:
GOD-FEARING: A PERSONAL REFLECTION ON MORAL AGENCY

I have once wondered why people present being God-fearing as evidence of good character. I find the idea unconvincing because religious belief does not automatically make anyone honest, compassionate, faithful, or responsible.

I consider myself a realist. I believe in principles, learning from experience, and taking responsibility for one's decisions. When I do something and the outcome is bad, I examine what went wrong and adjust my approach. I do not need an invisible authority to explain why harmful actions have consequences.

Religious people, like everyone else, can lie, cheat, exploit others, and abuse their positions. Some attend church every Sunday and still behave dishonestly. Others occupy pulpits, preach morality, and claim to represent God while contradicting the principles they teach.

This does not mean religious people are inherently bad. Many genuinely draw inspiration from their faith and practise compassion, honesty, and generosity. My objection is to treating religious identity as proof of moral superiority.

The same problem appears in relationships. Someone says they want a God-fearing husband or wife, presumably expecting faithfulness, honesty, and responsibility. But those qualities must be established through conduct, not from religious affiliation.

I also question the tendency to outsource moral judgment to God, religious authorities, or the law. Laws are necessary, but those who make and enforce them can break them too. Some are Christians who proudly describe themselves as God-fearing. Their positions do not prevent misconduct, and their authority does not excuse it..

My concern is broader: people sometimes hide behind instructions, traditions, religious teachings, or established procedures rather than accept responsibility for their choices.

Obedience is not the same as integrity, just as God-fearingness is not the same as goodness.

A person who follows instructions without questioning their consequences can still cause harm. Saying "I was following orders" does not automatically absolve anyone of responsibility.

I would rather associate with people who think critically, understand the consequences of their actions, and accept accountability when they are wrong. Religious belief may inspire good conduct, but it cannot replace independent moral reasoning.

Ultimately, I am more interested in the principles people practise than the authorities they claim to obey. I would rather live among people who understand why they should do good than those who simply depend on external authority to tell them what is right.

To me, genuine moral maturity begins when we take responsibility for our choices.
I wish this was how we brought up children, society would be a whole lot more cooperative.
Science/Technology › Re: Elon Musk’s Predictions For The Next 10 Years (Photos) by LordReed(m): 8:00am On Oct 23
Great100000:
Elon Musk has shared an ambitious timeline for the future of artificial intelligence, predicting that the technology could transform nearly every aspect of human work within the next decade. According to his projections, Al could surpass human intelligence as early as 2026, followed by a major shift in 2027 when artificial intelligence may become capable of handling virtually all digital work. By 2028, Musk believes Al systems could reach a point where even the most skilled human software developers would struggle to outperform them.

His predictions extend far beyond computers and into the physical world through advanced robotics. Musk has suggested that Tesla's Optimus humanoid robot could eventually perform surgical procedures better than the world's leading human surgeons by 2029. Looking further ahead, he envisions more than 100 million humanoid robots operating worldwide by 2031, with artificial intelligence eventually becoming more capable than the combined intellectual abilities of humanity.

By 2036, Musk predicts a future in which approximately 1 billion humanoid robots could be deployed across industries, potentially generating more physical labor output than the entire human workforce combined. While these timelines remain speculative and depend on major technological breakthroughs, they highlight just how dramatically Musk expects Al and robotics to reshape the global economy, employment and everyday life over the coming decade.
Elon Musk the hype man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 9:53pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
Someone who invented Space X, Neurolink, the Boring company, Tesla, etc, and be running all of them simultaneously is NOT a "pretender"!
Bwahahahahaha! How do you invent a company? Bro please go away you are simply out classed.

BTW he didn't invent anything. All the technology and ideas those companies use were already known or in development before he came along. Musk a hype man and hype men make money off gullible rubes like you.

Also store is closed no more feeding the troll for you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 9:49pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
See below. That's why I'm number one. I reason with the the greats while your reasoning is mundane
Low level reasoning that has no appreciation of nuance. You just regurgitate half digested things you don't even care to understand.

How does either of these mean that future knowledge will INVALIDATE our current knowledge?

This is trolling I swear.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 9:44pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
See below. That's why I'm number one. I reason with the the greats while your reasoning is mundane
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 9:41pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
See circled below. How does a "language tree" become sentient or conscious??
LordReed:
What it is now is different from what it will be in the future.
BTW how is this the concession you claimed?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m):
QuinQ:
Debunked how? We moved on once you conceded that IA is not just a language tree as that YouTube video says, once you conceded that you really don't know
LoLz. Quote where I made such a concession.

DeepSight, I think we are being trolled. This person is an intellectual ant in a clown suit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 7:03pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
This is what I mean when I say I am first. There are lots of things we know that will turn out we know wrong, say, a thousand years from now. Yet generations will live and die thinking we know!
Your thinking doesn't extend to that. That's why I am number one cool
LoLz. This is what I am saying intellectual lightweights like you think their fantasies are knowledge. Your fantasies will become invalidated but human knowledge will continue to increase based on what we know now.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 6:23pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
How is it conceit when it is true??
"Pretender" Elon Musk is richer than you
If it took intellectual prowess to be rich Einstein would have been a trillionaire before Musk was a glint in his father's eye.

It is conceit because it isn't true. Your inflated ego has revealed your intellectual poverty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 6:19pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
What instrument has told you what consciousness is and that there is only one form of consciousness? Or told you what dark matter/energy is, which make up over 95% of your knowable reality. Mind you we'er only talking of your microscope part of the universe and the microscope part of your microscope world knowable to you, never mind those you'll never suspect that you don't know that you don't know!
You show your ignorance of these subjects by not knowing that it is through instrumentation that we know of the existence of dark matter and energy.

No matter how much we don't know it will never invalidate what we do know.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 6:08pm On Oct 20
QuinQ:
I beg to differ. He doesn't even know organic doesn't always mean agricultural. It is me first, then the rest of you
Your conceit already shows that you are very low on the intellectual totem. Then your fanboyism of a like minded intellectual pretender like Elon Musk solidifies that assessment.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 10:09am On Oct 20
QuinQ:
You are really not very smart, are you? That's why I quashed the idea that you and LordReed could be one and the same person. See below
BTW DeepSight runs miles ahead of you when it comes to intellectual prowess. You are outclassed and outgunned when it comes to you and him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 7:53am On Oct 20
QuinQ:
Because unlike me, I'm suspicious there are NLers with more than one account
What are you talking about? Is QuinQQ not YOUR 2nd account?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 7:51am On Oct 20
QuinQ:
Stating a fact is not questioning reality. Our senses pick up very little of what there is. See below
That is why we make instruments to detect what we cannot. To now claim that our particular lack means what we do know is invalidated is nonsense.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m):
QuinQ:
The discussion has gone way beyond that, even into spirits and humans lacking true consciousness
Right, you switched up your nonsense once your initial nonsense was debunked. LoLz.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 5:16pm On Oct 19
QuinQ:
You are really not very smart, are you? That's why I quashed the idea that you and LordReed could be one and the same person. See below
Why are you always looking for people who are one and the same?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is Jesus Not Included In Academic History Books? by LordReed(m): 5:14pm On Oct 19
QuinQ:
Bottom line is, we don't know. If you really think about it and you're honest with yourself, you'd have to admit we know very, very little. We just think we know, just as we tend to think we can perceive wirh our senses all there is
There you go again later you'll claim you aren't questioning reality. There is no shame in admiting you are wrong.

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