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Notice that i did not say Christianity, i said the Bible. Man is created to worship, each human being has a soul and a spirit (something other animals don't have, though that's probably another discussion entirely) and so will generally crave for something/someone to worship. That's the practice of religion. Just like the human body naturally has characteristics that will continue to be there, the human spirit also has the tendency to worship and commune with some 'higher' power.
That being sorted, God is not the ONLY spirit. The Bible teaches that there are principalities and POWERS. There are powerful books inspired by POWERS, i am not denying that. What i have said and maintain is that the Bible is no ordinary book, but divinely inspired by God. Books have influence, even the media has some influence. But there is NO book that has the kind of influence that the Bible has continued to have. Let me list some to be specific.
- Transformation of sinners. If you have been in an evangelistic crusade or outreach, you'd probably understand better. i'm not talking about mental gymnastics or even solid, clear, or even motivational teaching. i mean just mere reading of the Bible, and people are grown men and women are crying, and confessing crazy stuff and dropping all kinds or horrid lifestyles for better ones. A total turn around. i don't know any other book that does that and has been doing that for thousands of years.
- Reported healing. You don't believe in healing and miracle that's why i use the word reported. Apart from the Bible and MAYBE you may mention the Koran. i am certain that you cannot mention up to 10 other books of the billions of books written that people claim to read and it gives them physical healing. Let alone the other forms of healing.
- Influence on politics, prediction and unmatgched insight into the present, past and future.

i'll stop on these, i'm not sure i want to type long epistles for now.

I mentioned those religions because they also have their own scriptures so it's just a reference to their own sustained existence which is backed by their own belief and inspiration from their own scriptures. You cannot claim divine inspiration for yours and use its continuous existence as an evidence of its divine origin then deny same for others, that is just an arbitrary line you drew up.

Maybe you are not familiar with the Buddhist scripture and how people claim to receive healing from it's practice and I have no doubt you will find similar claims from the Hindus as well as other religious scripture backed practices. These are all human experiences as far as we can tell since that is the common denominator among them. If you want to prove divine origin then inspiration and length of existence is NOT an indicator.

Lessonteacher:
first, you have to know i didn't say "all atheists"; that said, judging by the way you seemed not to understand my position there , i can say you r a baby atheist.
i have seen existence through the eye of people like 'Charles Darwin', i know how it feels being a real atheist and i know you have to be out of your ordinary mind for you to doubt the existence of God,

Ahh, OK it's not the atheists want to sin trope, it's the atheists are crazy trope. LoLz.

My bad, you didn't say all atheists you said almost all atheists. LMAO.

So the ones that are not included in your statement what explains their own position since they aren't on psychedelics?

Lessonteacher:
have you smoked weed or used any other hard drug before?
be honest.

Nope, I have not smoked weed or used other hard drugs. Even if I have it wouldn't translate to ALL atheists. You must have absorbed the nonsense about all atheists being atheists just to "sin".

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The Bible is not mere human inspiration but divine inspiration. Reason why it remains more relevant than the most inspired of human books and doings. Human inspiration or genius moments fail and wane, the Bible remains with same potency for thousands of years.

So why has Islam not waned or failed? Why has Buddhism not waned or failed? Why has Hindusim not waned or failed? All of these will also claim inspiration and changed lives. The fact is they and the Bible are all human inventions and therefore have an effect on humans in varying degrees, the same way all human devising always works.

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i will agree to the extent that the constant revision and interpretation of the Bible is all human effort. The Bible itself is not all human effort but inspired and consistently life changing.

It is wholly human effort. Inspiration and the ability to change one's mind about things is a human attribute that needs no god or gods.

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It is quite the insult considering that Paul is like the version of Mo in christianity. Like after God, it's Paul (for the Gentiles), or let's safely add Peter, James, John and the other apostles. We both know Mo is incomparable to mere suicide bombers in that religion. Mo will never commit suicide, none of the leaders of the religion will attempt such, none of the rich or well established would. That option is usually for the poor and ill-informed amongst them. Just one day ago, i read that Gwoza suicide bombers are given as low as N20.
On the other hand, Paul is never willing to do something that other christians should not follow. The principle is clearly, "follow me as I follow Christ." He's not deceived into what he is doing. In fact, most of his many epistles explain what he is doing and why other believers should do same. Paul, brainwashed by who? Paul, whose experiences are clearly documented across the New Testament. Who experienced a life-transforming change from a murderer and persecutor to a saint. Paul, who healed sicknesses and raised the dead. Paul's life, as we read it, was not dem say. Aprons from him were healing the sick. Paul who had been to heaven in a vision is who you are comparing to suicide bombers that did not even read their book not to talk of revelation. Wake Paul up now now, he will explain to you how he met Jesus on the way to Damascus. The comparison is a complete fail abeg. Try maybe some brainwashed church-goers, not apostle Paul.

Then the insult is from you. If you think the only reason people want to martyr themselves is because of brainwashing/indoctrination/money then the same applies to Paul.

surrogatesng:
Not too expensive

You are kidding, right?

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Every language when translated in big chunks will lose some of its nuance. People don't need to constantly revise and interpret the Bible, they choose to. It has not exactly proven to be better.
You put the fault on God and His Word, i put it on people. That changes what you said.

As you well know I don't believe there's a god behind all of this. It might have been easy to miss but I was going for sarcastically pointing out that this is all human effort.

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Paul did not die because of money or brainwashing, it's not a joke.

If suicide bombers were brainwashed or deceived then so was Paul.

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Suicide bombers die because they are brainwashed/deceived or for money. Paul did not.

Is this a joke?

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, it's usually PEOPLE that need the revision and interpretation. .

How does this change what I said?

Peledonomy:
Here is what I like to ask all those who don't believe in God.

No let me rephrase the question.

Here is what I'll like to ask those who don't believe the Bible.

I know the Bible is not a scientific book.
I know that you have seen some contradictions in the Bible.
I know that the resurrection of Jesus is still a debate.

But wait.

Why would a man called Saul of Tarsus, aka Paul the apostle, die for a lie?

Take note. Paul never met Jesus in his life time.

The historicity of Jesus may be in doubt, but Paul is well known through out history. I'm not just talking about the Bible.

Why would that man called Paul, give up his life and comfort for a story/myth/legend?

It's just a question.

The same reason suicide bombers die. They think they are right.

Peledonomy:
He also asked what he could have done differently. It now became an issue of "did I not have enough faith? Was I not worthy of God revealing himself to me?"

Well let me state this here now that it's not too late, I don't claim to have the answers, but what I hope to do is to ask the atheist who shares in this sentiment a simple question.

If there is a God and you want to feel him or experience him, is it not proper you first ask how he wants to be known, or felt?

I mean it's just normal to think that if there is a God who is high and mighty, then he must have his terms and conditions. Do you just go around looking for him and expecting he shows up anywhere anyhow to prove himself to you? That you are who?


Just a question o.

The god that doesn't speak for himself or another one? The god who people claim spoke words that were supposedly written by other people in their own language which when translated lost some of its nuance requiring constant revision and interpretation? That god is the one who will tell you how he wants to be known or there is different god?

Lessonteacher:
one thing almost all atheists have in common is, they are all into some sort of psychedelics

Where do people like you get this type of nonsense? LMAO!

Islie:
Disquiet In Secret Police, DSS As Directors Allegedly Retired Since 2020 Remain In Office, Collect Salaries



https://saharareporters.com/2024/07/01/disquiet-secret-police-dss-directors-allegedly-retired-2020-remain-office-collect

Probably gave them contracts, that is allowed in the Civil Service.

Negroid001:
She was incubating eggs.

In some animal species it's the male that incubates the eggs. For example:
Emus
Cassowaries
Emperor penguins
Jacanas
Dotterels
Phalaropes

GloriousGbola:
praying mantis female beheads the male
spider the male practically has to do a quick date rape and run away as the female is bigger
frogs often become an orgy
lions kill cubs so females can go into oestrus
and a lot of male birds have to have swagger and elaborate dances before the plane jane females agree for them

Nature is fascinating.

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i don't know and i don't really care, it's not a saving truth. Jesus Christ was crucified for the salvation of the world and resurrected from the grave. This is the greatest truth in the universe.
Like i previously said, Adam was the first man and all human beings come from him. Adam was created by God on the literal sixth day of creation, he didn't evolve from apes or any other species.

Then your comparison is meaningless. If you cannot provide a time-line then what is your point?

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Our Adam species starts with Adam, there were living things on earth before the earth was without form and void. Lucifer was also on earth and in Eden long before. The Bible says that much.

How long has the human species been on Earth?

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Funny that you don't think this way when we say that 1000 years is like one day before God or that Jesus is coming SOON.

So do you agree humans have been on Earth for about 300,000 years or you believe they were made 6,000 years ago?

DevilsEqual:
Who is Nature?
What is Nature??

Ive always wanted to ask how these animals learnt all these and from whom?

It's even funny cause their reproductive and parenting trait don't evolve(the first documented behavioral adaptation of any animals still remain same even 1300years after)

Animals are deliberately deprived of the "speech element" that's present in humans and no evolution would ever made them reach that level

There is a Grand Designer somewhere
A Super-Architect made this

- I'm EmperorCaesar

In evolutionary time frames 1300 is less than a drop in an ocean. 1300 years is less then one percent of the time modern humans have been around on earth and that is only about 300,000 years which itself compared to the time life has been around on earth is another tiny tiny fraction.

Negroid001:
Was relaxing on my verandah sometime last week and i witnessed something that had me thinking up till this moment.

For over 2 days a particular pigeon had been visiting my compound and i dismissed it in my subconscious as nothing peculiar. This particular morning though, the pigeon swooped in again, hopped here and there and in one crazy frenzy picked up a piece of discarded rubber material and took off. My eyes followed it and surprisingly it's destination wasn't far, it flew to a piece of erected metal beam opposite my house, curiosity got the better of me and i stood up and observed.
Behold, it had been picking up twigs and sorts for it's partner. The partner was building a nest, and when it arrived she collected the piece of rubber material from the male, tried fitting it in the nest and threw it away when it didn't fit. The male flew took off immediately to get another twig. I somehow forgot about the incident not until this morning i can see both lovebirds cuddled up in a complete nest.

Bam! It hit. Epiphany or whatever you call it. Men are naturally built to be providers and women are home makers.

Don't know what's wrong with this generation and the hype about being woke with women shi. Sounds like a homosexual propaganda to me.
I love women, smart ones, beautiful ones, every one...

It's my duty to provide for the woman i love with what i have at my disposal and it's her responsibility to support me. Together we shall make our abode a Haven. Simple...

Any other thing? Na una sabi.
I'm not weak, neither am i lazy.
I only go women that have interest in me.
I don't simp.

But say i no go provide, that one na lie.

Your hypothesis is falsified by the existence of animal species where the females are the dominant sex or the providers. Also there exist human cultures that females are the dominant sex or the providers so no my guy it has nothing to do with nature. It is a cultural dynamic.

Daejumong:
He fell into fornication,got publicly rebuked, disgraced and demoted by the church and the rest is history ! The true life story of a Christian Youth leader in Nigeria.

Brother K was a devout, fervent Christian believer and worker in the church. He served in the Youth department where he helped groom adolescents and teenagers in the way of the Lord in church!

He was tall,strikingly handsome and a smart dresser! Even though he attended a church with strict laws on modest dressing , he made sure his modest outfits were well ironed and starched. He loved God! He was in church almost every evening after working as a teacher in the day! He was loved and admired by all! He was in his late twenties and single.

He was the only Born again Christian in his family. He however mistakenly fell into fornication! The news got to the church leadership and they took decisive actions.

The church pastor called him out during Sunday service and told the whole church how he fell into fornication, stripped him of his position, asked people to avoid him and that He prays God would restore him!

Bro K was shattered. He wished the ground could open and swallow him! The embarrassment was too much for him to bear! All the young guys and converts he taught in church looked at him with disdain and disappointment!

He continued coming to the church in the weeks that followed but you could see he was depressed. He avoided eye contact and became reclusive. Everyone avoided him - Nobody wanted to be seen with a publicly condemned sinner and backslider!

About three months after the public rebuke, he couldn’t take it any longer! The mental torture was too much and he decided that rather than commit suicide he would leave church and Christianity and go into the world and find solace !

Bro K transitioned into a playboy! He used women to cure his depression! They loved him and helped him heal when the church deserted him! He hasn’t returned to the church, the last I heard of him!

2 Timothy 2:25
25 Be gentle when you try to teach those who are against what you say. God may change their hearts so they will turn to the truth.

And there was no attempt to rehabilitate him and show that his mistake is not the end? What a sad set of people.

omoredia:
My dummy boi

Delusional dolt.

omoredia:
Mugu lol. I don baptize ur life with curses 😆

Keep dreaming you delusional dolt.

omoredia:
U are. Life has ruined u

Keep telling us how pathetic your life is. LoLz.

omoredia:
U are useless and hopeless. U have no way out from ur pathetic mudpit of despair. Mugu

Ahh I how useless and hopeless that's why you think I am as shit ridden as you. LoLz.

omoredia:
Much further into the mud. Poverty is ur biggest worry and it will still end you finally. Mugu

Stop projecting your pathetic existence on to me scallywag. LoLz.

omoredia:
U that have worthless evidence how far have u come? Mumu

I bet I've come much further than you lowlife idiot. LoLz.

omoredia:
U be small goat. Ur school is a waste. Ur school would have been better spent to buy animal feed. Stupid emi lo kan slowpoke

LoLz. Dundi of the highest order. Just look this smelly rotten headed fool hallucinating me as a Tinubu supporter. This is how you cook up nonsense in your stupid rotten shit for brains and believe it without evidence. What a slowpoke. Bwahahahahaha!

omoredia:
Unholy slowpoke. When I expose idiots like u u start to spew thrash from all ur leaky orifices. Thunder fire u during rainy season ⛈️

Bwahahahahahaha! The only thing you are exposing is just how delusional and thick headed you are. You plus all your village people combined can't make static tickle my arse hair.

omoredia:
U are a slowpoke. Didn't u watch the debate so u think half of the US would stay in line to vote a slowpoke like Biden. U can't reason

And you are a delusional idiot. You jump from one stupid reason to another but fall apart like a wet tissue when asked to produce evidence like the rest your sordid bunch. Fuckturd.