₦airaland Forum

kingthreatz:
Seaport, when your land is landlocked?

I would want to school you on how a port can be made even down to onitsha but i will resist that urge.

7lives:
Are you blaming Yorubas for the inability of SE politicians to get an international airport from PDP 16 years government?, Yorubas are in opposition for 16 good years na.
You see why people like us want you people to have your so called Biafra?, it is because we know you guys are experts in failure.
Stop blaming Yorubas blame your politicians, who have caps but do not have heads.

Yoruba in opposition for 16 years ??

and some people actually liked your post, i give up!

thepussyhunter:
hmm i know ur type

u probably need a fvck

well.......

Honestly pal, i wish it was but sadly, it is not my need.

Well, it's a wrap people, nothing to see here...

bakynes:
The same gibberish PDP have been ranting about before the 2015 general election. "Buhari hates Igbos" using that to demonize him. It is Igbos who have shown more hate towards this man and whatever he does they deserve it because you don't have to hate someone because he is from the North and a Muslim. Most Igbos distance themselves from him that's why they don't have so much key positions in his govt.

It is quite obvious most of the people in his govt are people who surrounded him before and during the election.

before....maybe, during elections ? that i seriously doubt.

fiizznation:
This buhari hates christians/Igbos silly propaganda have been overflogged and nobody have been able to bring any reasonable proof to show that buhari really hates this or that. Is always the same gibbirish we get to hear everyday. Well everybody is entitled to his/her opinion(s).

Would you say the 5% statement credited to president buhari himself does not give credibility to this notion ?

darediamond:
Which Tribe Orchestrated the first Military Coup in Nigeria?
Who is Not To be trusted if not you Igbo's.
Hausa's may have the numbers, But Yoruba's can ONLY TURN THE NUMBERS TO USEFUL POWER. BIAFRA WAR QUICKLY COMES TO MIND. BEJAMIN ADEKUNLE, PA ALABI ISAMA and later OBJ... hmmmm!!!

Kindly note the ff;

Ironies of the first coup !

1. It was led by Nzeogwu, who is from present day Delta state. Same people that most would conveniently chose to identify as "not Ibo" and often chose to be referred to as SS.

Assuming Delta is not Ibo as raised in point #1, Is it correct to say:

a. The 1966 coup was south-south led ? as against the general belief that it was ibo led.

b. if you say it's ibo led then Delta is ibo by deduction !

You can't brand the 1966 coup Ibo led and then go ahead to say, delta is not Ibo !

2. Having established that the 1966 coup was South-south led in point #1 above, it is important to point out that the conspirators cut across , Ibo, yoruba, tiv and hausa !!!!

Conspirators
Maj. Kaduna Nzeogwu (Igbo)
Maj. Adewale Ademoyega (Yoruba), author of "Why we struck"
Maj. Emmanuel Ifeajuna (Igbo)
Maj. Timothy Onwuatuegwu (Igbo)
Capt. Emmanuel Nwobosi (Igbo)
Maj. Chris Anuforo (Igbo)
Maj. Humphrey Chukwuka (Igbo)
Maj. Don Okafor (Igbo)
Capt. Ogbo Oji (Igbo)
Capt. G. Adeleke (Yoruba)
Lt. Fola Oyewole (Yoruba), author of "The reluctant rebel"
Lt. R. Egbiko (Esean)
Lt. Tijani Katsina(Hausa/Fulani)
Lt. O. Olafemiyan (Yoruba)
Capt. Gibson Jalo (Bali)
Capt. Swanton (Middle Belt)
Lt. Dag Warribor (Ijaw)
2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo (Hausa)
2nd Lt. John Atom Kpera (Tiv)
Capt. Ben Gbulie (Igbo)

3. Note also, that most of this conspirators, dead or alife have give accounts as to why the conspired to overthrow the govt and non, I repeat non ! has ever said that it was to promote the selfish interest of any tribe, infact they saw what they did as patriotic. Only the media said otherwise.

4. It is also important to state here that the actions of 2 men was more pronounced in stopping this coup plotters, Ironically, they are both Ibos. The man we all love to hate, Ojukwu and his kinsman, Ironsi.

5. Here is something to think about eeh...

a. Why do the yoruba, tivs ,hausa and middle belt co conspirators not given an even portion of this blame...or has it been proven that they were forced or coerced or under some sort of influence ? or have they admitted to being fools that allowed themselves to be used in the grand plot ? This i think should be the only reason they should be excused.

b. There have been several coups after that, why has it not been branded by the media yet ? i mean the were led by someone from a particular tribe, why have we not had "Hausa led coup".........i mean it's only fair to brand all of them.

6. If there is anything the 1966 coup achieved, it would be that it gave disgruntled elements the perfect excuse to cause mischief to the Ibo race.


It is believed in some quarters that the events of January 15, 1966 has been portrayed wrongly by the media.

Well here is my opinion: The 1966 coup was Ibo led but not Ibo coup. Of course i will welcome your opinion and i am willing to yield to superior reasoning if presented with one.

Thanks.

oluarc:
So Obasanjo is from d North baa......y re you contradicting yourself? Obasanjo was released becos he is a Yoruba nd was brought to power to compensate Yoruba's for d inability of their son Abiola to become president despite winning d election......the question you shud ask is y was it not an Igbo man dat was supported to rule den? The truth is Biafra will never come to reality......nd it will b difficult to av an Igbo president in Nigeria because you guys have poor political correctness nd you ve not shown yourself ready for dat post for you av no nationalistic tendencies in you.

Kindly note the ff;

1. obasanjo was not yoruba interest in that election infact he was used to spite prominent yoruba leaders nevertheless it was a win win for the
yoruba race.

2. Also, i think you might have used the term "political correctness" wrongly in that context

3. Being "Political correct" was the reason hillary lost to trump.

4. There is nothing wrong with being different or holding a view that is not popular. It's what makes us human.

Pennywise:
No I dont. Its a boldface, shameless cover up and an insult to Nigerians that requires first, the head of the DG of NIA on a platter.

The emerging truth is that both the NIA and the DSS can be used at whim by people of questionable character to checkmate the EFCC.

It is unclear for whom in the executive the DG has chosen to be an errand boy all the speculations not withstanding.

While I concur there should be no sacred cow in the fight against corruption, the reality of our situation is that corruption has eaten so deep that should we remove it in one fell swoop the whole State could come crumbling down.

For those agitating for a commission of enquiry, to what end exactly? Opportunity for more mudslinging and distraction? For how long will they seat and what will it cost the tax payer? EFCC found the money, let them investigate.

A few scapegoats is what we need to fight this corruption and Nigerians will behave.

Lol, you sound more pained than I am on the issue.

I totally agree with what you have said above. If Efcc can conduct a proper investigation and come up with a convincing result, Torh, no need for an inquiry !

Pennywise:
If Wkie has proof, he would have laid it bare at the same press conference.

He doesn't. Rather he diverts attention from a serious national matter to a personal squabble.

You all have been ruled by rascals and ragamuffins for so long that u are ignorant between cant and substance, between fakes and real. Wike is a fake.

1. I agree with you friend, we do not have the best of leaders but what happened to "Fair Hearing" ?

2. Also, I do not think this is diversion, he is asking the government to get to the root of this issue and that i believe is what most Nigerians want.


3. Finally, you don't have any proof yourself that he's claim is false ? If you do, share with me.

4. In the absence of none, let's join Wike and demand that the govt sets up an inquiry so we can get to the root of this matter cause personally, i do not believe the NIA version or do you ?

Toketimt:
So many fools here don't know that Ozerkheme is a card carrying member of pdp. Hardly will any sensible thing come out from the eediot.

He was once buhari's choice for a running mate !

NgeneUkwenu:
Shift and go play with your mate!

Hello dear, a quick question pls. Do you believe the NIA version ?

Give reason to support your answer.

Thanks.

kitaatita:
... ..In an interview with SaharaReporters, Mr. Amaechi, who is Nigeria’s current Minister of Transportation, said he had no connection whatsoever with the apartment or the money. He added that he does not own any apartment or house in Lagos, stating that his only property in Nigeria was in Abuja, Nigeria’s capital city.http://saharareporters.com/2017/04/13/nigeria%E2%80%99s-intelligence-agency-former-gov-amaechi-dismiss-reports-linking-them-50m-cash

Yes dear, saw it mins ago, had to check it online before now hence i already modified my comment.

Thanks.

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[quote author=Ijuye post=55585766][/quote]Are you comfortable with the contents of that picture.

Amaechi being likened to Mugabe ?

Pennywise:
What a shame. Rivers state doesn't have a governor. just a small rat talking nonsense

Someone is laying claim to an unclaimed money, asking the president to commission an inquiry, says he is ready to come and prove his claim when called upon and you call such man a rat ?

It doesn't show smartness; not yet, wait until FG commissions an inquiry and he (wike) can not prove his claim or when FG/EFCC releases a statement with convincing evidence stating who the true owner of the fund is.

Don't be penny wise pound foolish

Thanks

mcgaius:
This is the most senseless comment I have read on nairaland. What has the looted fund got to do with eastern Nigeria?GEJ,AMECHI,muazu,NIA boss and all the people mentioned has nothing to do with eastern Nigeria

Slow down dear, He said Eastern Niger Company not Eastern Nigeria.

porozhniy:
This article is the reason boko haram still full ground; there is absolutely no synergy between our security agencies.
Magu could have simply stayed execution, secured the asset whilst seeking further clarification from the NIA, since the NIA DG personally tried to stop him.
Why did the EFCC let the media in since the NIA were potentially involved ?

Very intelligent comment.

Magu consulting Mr president and seeking more clarification from NIA before rushing to the media would have saved our beloved Nation and a secretive institution like NIA yet another embarrassment !

Efcc might be doing their job but they should learn to adopt professional approach in the execution of their duty; for only then can they record substantive result.

(Well that is if the money was truly NIA's)

EnkayDezign:
There has so far been no evidence to prove Amaechi owns that house, it's all a rumor started by ffk & co. Adamu Muazu himself denied the house initially, until evidence was brought out in the form of the contractors publishing his name as the client for the building. You have a think, and THANK ME LATER!

Muazu was only the developer of the said blocks not the final owner. He developed and it was sold to clients in the open market. So he is right to say the house is not his own. This is based on his released statement.

Anitateddy:
Lol.......Some comments tho. But honestly some men don't know how to approach a lady. I once remember slapping one that held my hand on the road.

Slap? is that not extreme ? What else did he do aside holding your hand ?

.....cause i'lld hate to imagine you slapped a guy only cause he held your hand.

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Afriifa:
all pointless. I am from delta state bro. And I have an uncle there one word, i forgot to add. Onitsha(a stronghold of biafra) to Asaba "trekable" which constitute another reason why the outpour. And you saying shooting my legs lol. Like I said you have big problem comprehending. Ikwereans and Ibos shares some traits I said, just like uhrobo and Ijaw. There is absolutely no contradiction in that, perhaps you just said that as the best defence mechanism you have left.

But they are two distinct tribes, they don't agree always. So I will advice you "next time you wanna start a race, make your your brain is documented with facts and not some sentimental beliefs or assumption"



another: pick your own size.


Final Bullet: learn how to comprehend before drawing your conclusions. (it really sucks repeating same thing over n over again)


thanks.

1. Talking about Facts, I brought more facts than you did friend. I have slapped every point you raised one after another. While you are yet to convincingly answer one question of mine. (let the other participants be the judge of that)

2. About brain size, it does not take time to know that yours is below average (your first 2 sentence is enough for one to find out). I only exercised my patience with you cause it is in my nature to give everyone the benefit of doubt.

3. You keep repeating yourself cause you have nothing else to say. It is not a wonder that you have not figured that out yet; again, brain size.

4. Am glad you have screen shots, go through them when you have had time to rest, please don't do it alone, call someone who's opinion you respect, he'll laugh at you yes but make sure he points out for you, the points that you have missed. I doubt if you can find it on your own.

5. I have no reason to be sentimentally attached to this issue unlike you (even tho you have constantly accused me of it); I only sought to educate you on the need to say things as the are even if you don't agree with it, sadly, like many before me, i have failed. My only consolation is that I put in my best.

6. Quote me to the high heavens, i will not reply you again. Not on this thread, i might again, maybe on issues you are less emotional about.

Have a pleasant evening.

Thanks.

Afriifa:
now go back and check my comment before this quote and tell me whose sanity has returned.........


After digging back my previous comment, I just realized I had been wasting my valuable time repeating the same thing just so you could understand. Now I know comprehension is your problem.

Friend, you said south south are not Biafran Lands. that was the crux of the matter.

I then asked you to state them for us. you went on with your story telling, saying things that can't be substantiated.

THE FACT REMAINS

SOUTH SOUTH LANDS WERE ONCE BIAFRAN TERRITORY, for at least while the war lasted funny enough biafra did not get any resistance from SS atleast not at the onset of the war. Deny it all you want, you cant change that !!!!!!

Hence i advised that you should maintain the argument that you guys do not want to be part of biafran territory's again !

NOT ! NOT ! NOT ! NOT ! that you never were ! That is bare faced lie.

I give up, you are irredeemable and you make a poor and unintelligent discussion

I do not mean to be rude but this conversation is over.

Thanks for engaging me.

Afriifa:
you failed to comprehend the genesis I only repeated what I said.. Go check for yourself......... So it is good sanity returned to you..


About your question, here is my answer,,, I am yet to deduce your point......... I am yet to know why you brought up a fallacy as way of prolonging our argument.


Ok let's say the truth; there is indeed a significant figure of biafran protesters in the south-south, but only two cities; Asaba and PH. The case of Asaba is obvious, because technically asaba is dominated by the Igbos(anambra-Onitsha). But your statement is an exaggeration. As for ph I will say that, their is a significant figure there, because at least Igbos and the Ikwereans share some traits even if they are too distinct tribes. Which means the igbos who are there for their various occupations find it easier to organize their protest since their lives is not threatened(like places lagos, Kano. Kaduna, warri. Oyo. Calabar, Benin, Etc) note: I know How passionate the igbos are whenever the name of biafra is mentioned. Even the ones at markurdi aren't easy to wade off.


The term bloody? Man is not only in rivers. Even Biafra protest at lagos(south-west) gets bloody at times. So don't come here and me feeling the Biafran quest has a stronghold in south-south like you want me to believe. I Know you are very passionate about your emancipation but don't let it delude you of believing in things like dat. Even The governor of rivers state debunked a lot of biafran protesters the last time they tried to use portharcout.


WORD

My Reaction.

To your first part paragraph: when next you want to sound bad ass, "find your own line"

2nd Paragraph:

Boy you shoot yourself in the leg. (talking about you contradicting yourself) You accuse me of fallacy then go ahead to agree with me in the first sentence of your third paragraph. Who does that ? really.

3rd paragraph:

* You say only 2 cities, how many cities do we have is SS really ?

* Do you imply that the ikwere's are supportive to the Biafran cause ?

* I put it to you that if the same demonstration is carried out in any village in SS, it would enjoy massive support, this is a Fact !

* About being bloody; working with facts on ground SS still tops (maybe they need it more than the SE themselves, This is not a fact tho, it is me thinking aloud )

* You used "YOUR" again, i already told you am not a biafran, unless calling me a biafran will help you win the argument, you can go ahead. I'll allow it partly because the "biafran movement" to me represents our struggle as Nigerians irrespective of tribe, this should concern you too.

* The Rivers governor did what was right for him to. He is the governor of a state in the FRN. No governor will like to openly support the Biafran struggle, I will not even advise that myself.

Dear friend, do you have any defense or interesting angle to the issues and questions i raised.

In an event that you do not, we can end the discussion here.

Thanks.

Afriifa:
I kept repeating this same statement over and over again......... South-south was only seeing as biafra because there was nothing like south-south in the then Eastern region(combined) when Biafra sprung up........... Go and check the genesis of our argument again. I stated it clearly to you. Now that south-south is being created as a geopolitical zone of its own. South-south is no longer a Biafran Territory. But a distinct geopolitical zone. Commonly. South east is a clear indication of the present Biafra territory, south-south is no longer in biafra, as is it was portrayed in the old Eastern region when the two zones were combined together as one.

Do you want to talk about Jasper Adaka Boro? You won't like your odds.

So you agree they once were !...good. Sanity has returned.

I also noticed you carefully avoided the below question of mine.

"Biafran demonstrations in south south states are usually the meanest, most violent and often records good turnout.

Can you intelligently explain why ?"

Or shouldn't it be of major concern to you that the Biafran agitation receives a lot of goodwill from your beloved SS ?

Regarding Mr Boro , since you are so knowledgeable about his story, I would not mind learning a thing or 2 from you but that should be after

you answered the above question.

Thanks

Afriifa:
. Lol I was never seen as a
Biafran.........
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Adaka_Boro

I only said the map you presented to me is the one Nnamdi Kanu presented, nevertheless it isn't wrong.

That's what I said earlier also because we were in the then eastern region before biafra rose up, we are never biafran, south-south is not biafra, read that link

I went through your link but it does not explain or change the fact that south south was captured in the Biafran map or was not once recognized as Biafran territory, besides records show that SS was treated as enemy of the state, The Nigerian Forces saw you as Biafrans, that is the only explanation as to massacre SS suffered.

Remember I advised that your argument should be that you don't want to be part of Biafra anymore not ! not! not! not! That you were never part of Biafra cause that cannot be proven ! Quit making claims you can't prove, i must advise.

Anyways to further address your link.

Adaka Boro was not the only person from the "old eastern Nigeria" that fought on the Nigerian side, does that make the community of those that fought on the Nigerian side "non BIAFRAN", the answer is capital NO !!!!!

Majority of the South South people enrolled and fought on the Biafran side too !!!!!

Adaka Boro doesn't change a thing !

To burst your bubble, Biafran demonstrations in south south states are usually the meanest, most violent and records good turnout.

Can you intelligently explain why ?

While you figure that out, figure this out too.

Adaka boro fought on the side of the Federal Government but was killed under mysterious circumstances in active service in 1968 at Ogu (near Okrika) in Rivers State.

Afriifa:
point of correction. Nnamdi Kanu proposed this one.. Anyway it contained the information I needed.

Back to your question.

My answer "Go to the Genesis of our argument"

Wrong again ! The Biafra map has SOUTH SOUTH in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

I refuse insanity.

If what you are trying to say is that since there are variations in their language then it is not Biafran Land or were never part of Biafran

territory then you are wrong. The Nigerian forces saw you as Biafrans at least, Hence you were not spared from the massacre during the war. Think Boy,

think !!

What you can say is that you no longer want to be part of it,...see...see.... Now that is a Fresh Argument and falls within the margin of sanity.

Find attached biafran map again.

Afriifa:
Now you can go. I have no business with you again.


You just proved my point with your own mouth. Have a nice day

What point did i prove ? i see no validation here.

For clarity, My detailed response lies above.

THE OLD EASTERN MAP HAS BOTH THE SOUTH EASTERN AND THE SOUTH SOUTH.

Afriifa:
ooh sorry, I meant if the whole of the then eastern region was captured in your map.

Sorry to say, but it's too obvious for you not to understand my question because of that simple mistake. Perhaps you were just looking for an excuse.

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To answer your first question, The answer is YES, it also captures your beloved south south too

I have the following links to support my case (old eastern Nigeria):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Region,_Nigeria

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ng-.html

Also find attached the picture of Biafra map.

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(note: you used the phrase "YOUR MAP" which means that your assumption is that am biafran, Again that assumption is wrong!!)

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"Sorry to say, but it's too obvious for you not to understand my question because of that simple mistake. Perhaps you were just looking for an excuse"

To react to the your statement above (bolded). I am not offended, I want you to know that i will never run away from any opportunity to learn

and to further improve on the things i know already through constructive arguments and intelligent conversation. This is what this group is

about for me. Not forgetting the occasional laughs.
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Now my question:

Why did you ask about the then eastern map and how does it help your case ?

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Afriifa:
there is nothing to rebate in all you wrote. You wrote a niece piece to delude who of your abilities? You want me to prove my points because you believe I am just making assumption.

I doubt your ability for equity in fair opinions.

I have nothing to reflect, I stated my points clearly, with due respect, the south-south lands are not Biafra lands because, the south-southearners have their very own geopolitical zones now(no longer the combined eastern region) what is so difficult for you to comprehend? Do you need evidence for me to state that Ishekiri lands aren't Biafra lands? My friend that's absurd.

You are busy just refraining the same piece you wrote earlier without any sensible view contrary to my point.

Ok let me ask you one question.. The then Biafra map, (proposed before the war) did it capture the of the then eastern region and its entire geographical location?



If your answer is No, then I need a proof, but if your answer is Yes, just know you have been arguing without proper knowledge of my previous quotes.
Don't let your Ideology becloud your sense of truth.

Good, am impressed you are now asking questions. (so i'll go ahead to ignore every other thing you said and focus on that one question for that is the only place i see light for you to finally reason)

Unfortunately in your haste, you might have made a mistake. That should be the only reason i can't understand it.

Kindly put it right. i have it above in bold.