arresa:
What is this old and tired ipob villager is saying?


Nigeria is not a country today, but it was when you and shagari were looting, pillaging and destroying Nigeria right?



This old ipob man need to sit his ares down and shut up abeg...

By their fruits we shall know them. FGN pls withdraw Ekueme benefits and pension.

MayorofLagos:
First skyscraper built in Iboland. Congrats!

Next project for the indigenes - complete 2nd Niger bridge.

abeg bros na true, na d first skyscraper

Aringarosa:


Côte d'Ivoire economic plan The plan is based essentially on a vast programme to modernise and develop infrastructure, and on reforming key sectors such as agriculture – in particular coffee and cocoa, the latter of which Côte d’Ivoire is the largest producer worldwide, with about 35 per cent of the world’s production. Other key sectors include oil and gas, mining, finance and tourism. The government foresees that 60 per cent of the investment needed will come from the private sector.

Investors are already flocking to the country. Among the flagship infrastructure projects financed with foreign investment is the country’s largest hydroelectric dam in Soubré, in the south-west part of the country, built by the Chinese for a total of €360 million. Other key examples can be found in Abidjan, where the Swedish company ABB recently won the tender for the expansion of the Azito electric plant.

In March 2013, India’s Tata Steel announced it would form a consortium to finance the construction of a railway line from its iron concessions in western Côte d’Ivoire to the port of San Pedro in the south. In addition, President Ouattara officially inaugurated the Abidjan-Yamoussoukro motorway last December, which is financed in part by Arab investors.

France, the old colonial power, remains the largest foreign investor but Côte d’Ivoire is now eager to attract investment from other European countries, in particular the UK, and it expects that trade with the UK will double by 2015. This is why Prime Minister Daniel Kablan Duncan travelled to London in October 2013 for a bilateral investment forum, and another large investment event was held in Abidjan at the end of January, called ICI 2014 (ICI stands for Invest in Côte d’Ivoire).

President Ouattara has also made great strides in the international arena. As Chair of the Economic Community of West Africa (ECOWAS), he took decisive action along with France to counter terrorism in Mali last year. He is also a fervent advocate of economic integration among West African countries: “Our economies are too small to stand alone,” he recently declared in an interview with the BBC. “We need more integration to spur growth and development for all our people.”

Economic integration ? you wan receive slap ? Whose economy is tool small, Mali abi Togo.

I am still waiting for that useless AU passport - Nigeria should not be a party to that nonsense, we have security and economic issues abeg.

passyhansome:


Was actually waiting for a quote from a frivolous entity, sovereignty is about internal control, without external influences, may be you have gotten or gone senile, when Jonathan tried exercising his power he paid the price dearly , American refused to sell weapon to him, and they confiscated the weapon we bought from another country, our looted money in the swiss bank, we are being condition before the money can be returned, now you should know, things like this can't be tried with sovereign state, you just interested in attacking a personality, shows how jejune you are.

dump IPOBIAN ....

Mr. Smart Ajaja, a Nigerian rights activist, based in the United States of America, ‎ yesterday, said the refusal of former President Goodluck Jonathan to probe alleged multi-million dollars allegedly found in one the nation’s service chiefs, during his tenure was the reason America refused to sell arms to his administration.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/605033/

one more time for the dump ipobian's

He urged the U.S. president and Congress to find ways around the Leahy Law, which prohibits sales of certain weapons to countries whose military are accused of gross human rights violations.
Read more at: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/7/23/bombs-kill-29-as-nigerian-leader-says-us-hampering-fight1.html

Their are no intellectuals in your rabid cause, your all dropouts or rejects who graduated from the OSU 3 (imsu, absu and esut)

Kayceenaz:


Undoubtedly, self-determination is indeed a right. It can be rightly pursued when the time is right.

Self-determination is a right and not "LAW". What is a right in one country, is not in another.

In many nations you can marry more than one wife , and also at a very young age. It is law in these countries, in other countries you cannot.

Human rights cannot be forced down any countries throat. The killings of African American are they not against human rights, has anything happened as per human rights. The human rights, is just a recommendation and each nation has a right to enforce that which it deems fit.

Self-determination can be a right in America but may not be a right in Nigeria. Sudan was not split, until a vote was carried out - it was not human rights that was considered though it was part of the argument, it was not the main argument.

There was a referendum, which was accepted by all parties - to enact into law the results of the referendum.

Dont full your self with this self-determination crap, does Palestine not have a right to self - determination.
Are gay and lesbian rights not human rights ...

passyhansome:


Did you just call Nigeria a sovereign state A sovereign state is one which is independent in its affairs and territory and is complete in itself. This means that the state neither answers to nor shares power with others, including religious or other government powers. A sovereign state may conduct its own affairs without hinderance or interference.. We are not Sir we are slaves to USA and other European countries, they dictate our economy, even political scientist have argue this, So bro Buhari made a comment similar to this dude comment when Jonathan defeated him, so am just wondering why all this drama.

Another idiot from the east. Sovereignty is political not economical. Nigeria is too big, strategically located, economically viable(numerous trade partners). How have other nations influenced Nigeria's decisions. Ever since the IBB regime, Nigeria has been running on its own steam. We have been running our won shit for a long time.

Sovereignty is about internal control, so far Buhari government's clench is growing tighter, even Jonathan displayed the Nigeria's sovereignty, when the gay law was passed and shit did not happen . As, for the British MP - she's just another small fry looking for votes from the ibo speaking third class servants of the King of England in her constituency.

Biafran's should be the one's worried about sovereignty not Nigeria - your begging everyone, you have no influential friends you can speak for you, no aristocrats, no intellectuals and no direction. It's basically a rag tag group, looking for cheap publicity in return for financial benefits.

the hunger in the east is affecting them senses

Did you run any statistical analysis ?

kennyblaze007:
They look awesomely beautiful... Jeez c babes...

Go to the Fordham Rd, BX borough... you'll see 10 tania omatayo's per minute, with real hair... fucking mediocre's

Eastern's

No ATM , POS for GHANA.

mikolo80:
yes it does actually
All diplomats in all countries have immunity. The highest you can do is report him to his country or send. Personally I will send goons to treat his fuckup and claim I there was no evidence

Oboy na everywhere even for their land. Any where in the world money dey make things happen.

For yankee, the matter go go court. Judge go throw am out.

All you need are the right friends and that man seem to have them in Nigeria. But, the best way we could deal with him is to get the real photo.

Public shaming is the only way the masses can bypass bureaucratic and judicial loop holes that protect powerful people any where in the world

Did any body CTRL + F ; JEW on the first thread.

ojdollars:


This is just an example of pure Ignorance. Did he went to see the bishop to seek Jesus? Why try to stir up your own type of religious controversy? Before the name Christianity was coined in Antoich, Syria. People were worshipping God in all manner of ways. Stop this religious supremacy, I'm a Christian from Warri, state of Delta and I say it's uncalled for... Your comment...

You dey look mumu. If you wan go church go church, you wan go mosque go. leave others alone.

I dey hail the short man of Kaduna for his pro - liberal policies. down with the conservative, extremist and IPOB

When a woman like a guy she grooms him.
Remind him to cut his hair shave, do his nails e.t.c

It's how they show affection.

brytee:


Only a confused man doesn't care about tribe or religion....

That was in 1886

efilefun:
Lol and some people still thinks those pushing them to war care about leaving this country, see Igbenedion Marrying an AWUSA lol yet some hungry folks would be here backing this people who never cared about them

Edo state has no issues with the north. Edo state has always been a religious tolerant state. We don't even know what you mean by "awusa" .

The poverty is so high in the east , that's why your tribal and religious bigots .... It's all you have !

CSTR2:
You are sick.
The Igbo family that gave you a wife are probably sick too and deserves to be publicly flogged. Ofcourse, we all know you are lying anyway.
Sick bigot.

Hungry man, you think sey everyone in the east are illustrates.

goingape:
apart from sex what can women offer

Good looking offspring .... no horror film like Mercy Johnson pikin

Elkay3:
I think that was too blunt.

He cant display weakness on this issue. Using the UN as a platform to deliver this stance was the best this regime could do.

No nation will touch this IPOB issue, as the president has said "form a political party". IPOB would now need to explain, why they cant form a political party to legitimize their cause if it is "legitimate".

ificatchmodeh:


You people don't seize to amaze me..
You're not igbo..
You don't care about igbos
You don't live in the east..
You're not married to igbo..

Yet you rushin every thread and tell them au best to live..
What best for them..
What they ought to do..

Are you sure your okay?
What tribe are you..
How is your tribe fairing in this country..
Why don't you first give your people this advise?
Why are you so pained that you rush to biafra threads and even went ahead to create one.

Is your community part of their biafra?
Don't really understand your lots on this matter..
Federal government is not even trying to stop or raise this matter as issue of concern..
Why you and your types are like this.i don't understand..

Am southerner from great IZON..and what ever happens to biafra is none of my business and I don't think is any ijaw man business..
And you can't find our people pulling them back or blackmailing them..
All we try to let them understanding is that there is always a boundary..and they understand..
So what's your pain..
Really want to understand..

See full post I made here https://www.nairaland.com/3367207/heres-take-ipob#49616106

In summary:

On the case of morals, Biafra as an idea is very much significant in history, however this is for the lives lost and not for that which was never achieved.

waternogeteneny:



I have gone through your post history and u definately have no igbo connection. Ur a full blooded yoruba.


enjoy masturbating on the word igbo. fool!

How does my connection in Ibo land solve the inherent issues of poverty and lack of infrastructure in the east of Nigeria ?

You read everything on this thread and the only thing your contemplating is "my connection to ibo land".

I am just curious, this is not an attempt to mock or insult you. What level of education have you attained ?

waternogeteneny:


Look, i 4 use machete commot ur useless head if i can lay eyes on u. Who dey hell do u think ur talking to in that manner.

Check well na ur papa people hungry want to finish in Nigeria. Parasites!

Abi u miss road?

People in the east need food, jobs and opportunities, better infrastructure and improved healthcare.

Biafra cannot give this to them and it never has. The federal government need to work tirelessly on this issue to improve living conditions in Nigeria as related to human security. When to government works hard to improve human security, delinquents like IPOB, boko haram and Niger-Delta militants cannot hijack the peoples legitimate grievances to serve their greed.

waternogeteneny:



Ur mother dont give u right to talk to us on our affairs. U are confused. Go and concern urself with the plight of your father people.


U are not one of us. Period!

I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not. When did "cessation from Nigeria" become "your" affairs. You are a Nigerian, and as such governed by the laws of this sovereign republic. You can simply think, that "cessation" is an IPOB affair, that the eastern part of Nigeria is an IPOB affair. Does IPOB provide the monthly financial support eastern states receive or did IPOB build the road, hospitals and bridges in the eastern part of Nigeria.

Young man this is not "UMUNNA" meeting !

onespecial:







This will be my last reply to u as it seems u have nothing to argue with.



Have we not been having armed conflict in Nigeria to the extent of having civil war, why is Nigeria's case without a solution ? Are IPOB presently in armed conflict with you ? How many countries in Africa are in conflict because of secession ?


You should differentiate causes of conflict and its scope in different regions.



Last info, many countries agitated and got their nationhood and are doing fine. Biafra will not be an exception. I don't think there would be the term "secede" if all believe like u that conflicts arise from hunger and poverty.


Bye

¹ There was only one civil war in Nigeria.

² IPOB is currently in conflict with the Federal Government. Their is evidence this group (IPOB) planned to escalate to "armed conflict". Nnamdi Kanu's video where he solicited for "guns and bullets" is on YouTube and the world has seen it.

³ Nations agitated for freedom are not doing fine. Only nation that split without any form of animosity are doing well. India and Pakistan, Pakistan is now a terrorist strong hold. Bosnia and Herzegovina & Croatia and Slovenia (where are these two European nations). South Sudan is still burning !

Only nation who divided peacefully are growing. See Sweden and Norway, the UK and Ireland. And these where decades ago, between nation whom already where already wealthy and not struggling to grow wealthy.

⁴ For the causes of conflict each case is different. In Africa, however its poverty and poverty alone. It not ethnic or religious. If countries in Africa have good poverty levels we would have less conflict.

Look at South Africa, it still have conflicts every now and then. Though, it the most developed country in Africa. Conflicts rises from poverty and nothing else. Delinquents like IPOB simple hijack it , for greed

Doghari:
The OP is a known hausa pro-dullard that claimed to be Igbo in desperation to keep oil flowing to kaduna. Na him go tire.

I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not. On the case of oil, how many barrels of oil does eastern Nigeria pump. The oil from the eastern region is not the bone of contention here.

onespecial:





To ur dull brain, it is only hunger that induce agitation. How come there are no agitations in many countries that Nigeria is far better than. So all agitations across the globe are because of hunger ? Seems u lack sense.



Biafra didn't start today,. Biafra is a nation instituted in 1967. Go to hell with ur hunger story.



Hunger will first destroy other tribes b4 an Igbo man if it must destroy lives. Biafrans outside Nigeria are equally agitating to have their identity as against the identity forced on them by a white lunatic. That is the simple truth and not ur hunger rubbish.


If it is only hunger that moves black brains from yoruba and hausa, then know it now that Igbos are different. We are not moved by hunger. We seek for ideal state.

What countries in Africa , that Nigeria is better than have not experience armed conflict/conflict at one period or another. Please list them

onespecial:
This OP is a joke.


So the population you see obedient to the agitation are wholly poverty induced ? Did u start hearing about Uwazuruike recently, if not, then why discussing the issue now as if u just came to know about the issue recently.


Pls save your concern for your tribe and help them upgrade in anyway that will help them live happily.

_{My mother is from Anambra State, Njikoka LGA, Abagana to be precise. My grandfather on my maternal side, died an ICHIE !}

It seems your confused:

In summary, the inhabitants of eastern Nigeria have genuine grievances with the government and BIAFRA is not one of them. The people in the east (pro IPOB) like those who join militancy and boko haram are hungry(hunger is the grievance), however IPOB has made them believe BIAFRA is the solution to this hunger, when in fact it is not.

Biafra will inherit the same problems Nigeria has - poverty, education deficits, insecurity and economic slowdowns. These issues don't care if your called BIAFRA or NIGERIA.

If people in the east live above the poverty level, have healthcare and other infrastructure - IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu would barely have any support as people would have less grievances with the government and as such have no reason to "think" cessation would solve this "hunger".

Part One

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There is a research paper by Collier and Hoefler titled "Greed and grievance in civil war". The researchers argue that greed is the major reason for armed conflict/conflict. However, they say, delinquents like IPOB take advantage of the peoples grievances with the government and use it as a motivator and smoke screen to mask their true intentions which is greed.

Using the Brexit for an example, you can see how a group can take advantage of the people’s grievances with the state to achieve totally unconnected goals. The Brits, if they could vote again, would vote to stay in the EU. They voted to leave the EU, however they did not understand what leaving the EU meant or what EU - itself meant for UK's economy and status as a global player.

People in the East have no idea what it means to be a "BIAFRAN" - they never have been. Unfortunately, because of the grievances they have with the government, IPOB finds it easy to merge these grievances and channel it towards the BIAFRA "cause".

How can people mostly masses living in poverty and under poverty know what it means to secede from a nation in these modern times when the global balance is laying on its fringes?

How can they know, that infrastructure, security, and economy are key issues they will be contending with and as such the result would be more poverty, more disease, more crime and utter distress? How much of these masses has IPOB educated on the process of cessation? Do they know that they could be walking into a generation of despair and another of discontent?

When I speak of “grievance with the government” - these grievances are one and the same each region in Nigeria is going through. Poverty, poor health care, insecurity, poor education and lack of opportunities.

People are food hungry not Biafra hungry. The government must genuinely concentrate on raising poverty levels in all regions of the federation and channel its energies on pro-poor policies. Concentrating on poverty and education levels will instantly deprive boko haram, Niger-Deltan militants and IPOB of “this” power over the masses - whom are the true victims in Nigeria's current security and economic dilemma.



¹Collier, Paul, and Anke Hoeffler. "Greed and grievance in civil war." Oxford economic papers 56.4 (2004): 563-595.

Whynotthetruth:


1)Law is made for Man and not man for law...Have you ever wondered why there's room for Constitution amendment? And do you know that whoever makes peaceful change impossible by chance has made violent change inevitable? Do we have provisions for state creations at independence in our Constitution? how come we now have 36states today?

2)If Igbo & other tribes were forced to become Biafrans... kindly tell us from which nation, those VERY BRAVE young men who confronted Nigeria military with sticks and bare hands came? How come they heroworshipped Ojukwu till death? How come the agitation refused to die years after such deaths? How come the agitation is gaining momentum daily? What is feeding this ideology today if it was anti-people as you said?

3)If we are to shift to morality...Then on what moral ground, should Nigeria(SW & North) confront a people they so much denigrate for cohabitation now? On what moral ground, should Yoruba want a union with a people they celebrated and still celebrates their massacre? On what moral ground, should northeners cohabit with a group they see as greedy, intolerant, pompous and arrogant? On what moral ground, should SW seek Union with a group they see as land usurpers, and ingrates? On what moral ground, should Buhari or any Nigerian leader expect loyalty from a group they disgust & derogatorily refer to as 5%?

Nigeria has NO COGENT REASON or JUSTIFICATION for holding Igbo back here...except for selfish considerations!!!

Responses are chronological

¹ See here for the process of constitutional amendment http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/JLCR/article-full-text-pdf/157B8B555792. What is IPOB's plan ? How does it hope to get all these requirements ? Do you have intellectuals and aristocrats willing to publicly identify with this "cause" in order to push doggedly through due process ?


² As you said, there was no referendum and as such the world never knew the true will of the people. Soldier's are trained to fight, and the men you say fought with inferior weapons , were protecting their communities and not the illegal entity "Biafra" which was seeking legitimization.


³ Now your just belittling yourself by condescending to sentiments. I said, on the case of morals "Biafra" should be celebrated, even re-enacted in cinema's but only to honor the memory of the dead and not to be used as tool for public effect and gaining sentiments from vulnerable populations.

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SpeedOfLight:

I shouldn't have given you attention but I think you deserve to serve yourself otapiapia, it helps very well in this type of state you found yourself. You should have gone and open those markets and schools yesterday.

It's true you failed your mock exam - you go re-write like many students in east do , enough re-write...