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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:33pm On Mar 11, 2025
Ugandan special forces deploy to South Sudan to protect government as civil war fears grow

KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) — Uganda has deployed an unknown number of troops to South Sudan in a bid to protect the fragile government of President Salva Kiir as a tense rivalry with his deputy threatens a return to civil war in the east African nation.

Ugandan special forces have been deployed to Juba, the South Sudanese capital, “to support the government of South Sudan” against a possible rebel advance on the city, said Maj. Gen. Felix Kulayigye, a spokesperson for the Ugandan military.

“We sent a force there two days ago,” he said. “We are not there for peacekeeping.”

In deploying Ugandan soldiers to Juba, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni moved as a guarantor of the peace process that keeps Kiir and Machar together in a delicate government of national unity, Kulayigye told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Kiir and Museveni are allies, and Museveni has in the past intervened in the South Sudan conflict to keep Kiir in power.

The deployment of Ugandan troops to South Sudan underscores rising tensions in the oil-producing country that has been plagued by political instability and violence since it gained independence from Sudan in 2011.

The U.S. on Sunday ordered nonemergency government personnel to leave Juba. The U.N. is warning of “an alarming regression that could erase years of hard-won progress” in South Sudan.

The latest tensions stem from fighting in the country’s north between government troops and a rebel militia, known as the White Army, that’s widely believed to be allied with Machar.

Last week a South Sudanese general was among several people killed when a United Nations helicopter on a mission to evacuate government troops from the town of Nasir, the scene of the fighting in Upper Nile state, was shot at. Earlier in the week, after the White Army overran the military garrison in Nasir, government troops surrounded Machar’s home in Juba and several of his allies were arrested. Deputy army chief Gen. Gabriel Duop Lam, who is seen as loyal to Machar, was among those detained.

Kiir had angered Machar’s group earlier in the year by firing officials seen as loyal to Machar, who has charged that “persistent violations through unilateral decisions and decrees threaten the very existence” of their peace pact.

Kiir urged calm after last week’s helicopter incident, saying in a statement that his government “will handle this crisis and we will remain steadfast in the path of peace.”

Civil war erupted in South Sudan in late 2013 when a rift between Kiir and Machar escalated into fighting along ethnic lines. Kiir, an ethnic Dinka, accused a group of soldiers loyal to Machar, an ethnic Nuer, of trying to take power by force.

Machar escaped Juba, and later rebels loyal to him came close to capturing Juba but were repulsed by a combined force of South Sudanese soldiers loyal to Kiir and Ugandan special forces.

More than 400,000 people were killed in the 5-year civil war that followed.

With the support of regional leaders and the international community, Kiir and Machar signed a peace deal in 2018 and Machar returned to Juba as South Sudan’s first vice president.

But the political rivalry between South Sudan’s top two leaders — with Kiir suspicious of his deputy’s ambitions and Machar calling Kiir a dictator — remains an obstacle to lasting peace. Both men have been accused of violating multiple ceasefires.

Kiir and Machar are under pressure from the U.S. and others to more quickly implement the 2018 peace deal and prepare for elections.

Challenges include the government’s failure to implement promised reforms such as completing the unification of the army command.

Presidential elections, repeatedly postponed, are now scheduled for 2026.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/ugandan-special-forces-deploy-to-south-sudan-to-protect-government-as-civil-war-fears-grow
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:56pm On Mar 11, 2025
ALTI Unmanned takes flight into fully electric future

Knysna, South Africa-based unmanned aerial systems (UAS) designer and manufacturer, ALTI has officially announced its transition to a fully electric fleet, starting with the launch of its Transition e-VTOL UAS.

The company said this aircraft represents a significant leap forward in sustainable aerial technology, catering to military, security, and conservation missions.

The Transition is ALTI’s first fully electric vertical take-off and landing (e-VTOL) aircraft, designed to enhance efficiency, reduce costs, and minimise environmental impact. Its all-electric propulsion system eliminates emissions while significantly lowering operational and maintenance expenses, it said. The aircraft has a three-hour flight endurance, a 100-kilometer range, and a cruise speed of 40 kilometres per hour.

Duran De Villiers, Founder and Director of ALTI Unmanned, noted the importance of this shift, stating that the “stems from the need to meet our clients’ evolving demands. We’ve focused on delivering an aircraft that’s as close to 100% reliable as possible, safe, cost-effective, and virtually undetectable. Our clients, whether in surveillance, reconnaissance, or conservation, require an aircraft that’s not only efficient but also silent and stealthy.

“While going all-electric, we continue to lead the way with best-in-class endurance, achieving over three hours of flight time, fully equipped with payload. Moving into an all-electric future allows us to ensure that we continue to meet these needs while offering the most advanced, dependable solutions available.”

The aircraft’s low operational cost, estimated at under ten dollars per hour, makes it a practical and sustainable choice for long-range missions, ALTI said.

The company’s UAV range stands out due to its ability to take off vertically using rotors and then transition to horizontal flight – this does away with the need for runways or complex launch and recovery methods.

ALTI has shipped more than 1 000 unmanned aircraft to over a dozen countries since 2012. In 2021, Israel’s Avnon Group concluded an agreement to acquire a substantial stake of equity in ALTI, with UAV co-production to take place in Israel.

https://www.protectionweb.co.za/industry/alti-unmanned-takes-flight-into-fully-electric-future/

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:47pm On Mar 11, 2025
New Milkor naval vessels take shape

Milkor has made significant strides in expanding its presence across all spheres of defence and security. This was particularly evident at the IDEX and NAVDEX 2025 exhibitions in Abu Dhabi last month where Milkor unveiled its new 30-metre vessel for the first time.

“I think it’s one of the busiest shows that I’ve ever attended and I’ve attended quite a few globally,” Daniel du Plessis, Milkor’s Marketing and Communications Director told defenceWeb. He said it was a good showcase for Milkor especially as the company has a local presence, and the show gave potential end users in the Middle East a chance to see Milkor’s products firsthand.

The company’s new 30-metre Interceptor is aimed at providing quick response and situational awareness capabilities for inshore patrol operations such as counter-piracy and illegal fishing, for example. Key features include a top speed of up to 50 knots and an integrated flight deck designed for operating a vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) with 3.5-meter wingspan, complete with control station and maintenance facility. Up to three UAVs can be accommodated on board.

The vessel can also accept a deployable 3.4 metre rigid-hulled inflatable boat and two aft deck heavy weapon stations. Additional features include satellite communications, Furuno radar, electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) gimbal, and HF radio for connectivity, navigation, imaging, and distress safety.

This new offering is set to add to Milkor’s existing naval capability, with the company already having designed and produced the smaller Milkor IPC (Inshore Patrol Craft) which is primarily aimed at near shore patrols, coast guard, and policing operations. Additionally, Milkor is in the process of significantly expanding its naval offerings with systems such as the Arsenal, Commander, and Ripper, all of which are sub-35-metre vessels aimed at bringing speed and awareness to inshore naval operations.
Notably, according to James Cottrell, Head of Marine Projects at Milkor UAE, Milkor’s new 16-metre Commander high-speed and long-range patrol craft is the final stages of qualification testing and set to launch in the first half of 2025.

Development of the Commander started in 2023 and a scale model was displayed in public for the first time at the World Defense Show in Riyadh in February 2024. The aluminium monohull design has a full load displacement of 20 tonnes, an overall length of 16.5 metres, and can be powered by either two Caterpillar C12.9 1 000 hp engines or alternatively two Volvo D13 1 000 hp engines, driving waterjets. This gives a maximum speed of 45 knots and a cruising speed of 35 knots for a range of 500 nautical miles.

“We’ve actually branched out to a whole range of vessels that cater for different clients ranging from BMA to Coast Guard to Navy to special forces and marines as well,” du Plessis emphasised.

Milkor’s naval offerings are reflective of the company’s growing international presence and ambition and the UAE’s drive for locally produced systems. Speaking to defenceWeb, du Plessis said that “the office in UAE is predominantly responsible for the naval systems development and manufacturing as well. So, a lot of the in-house design and manufacturing capabilities for the naval systems that we produce also resides there as well.”

Since relocating its naval headquarters to the UAE, Milkor has focused on deepening local and regional partnerships as well as expanding its capabilities, with du Plessis telling defenceWeb: “we’ve expanded our naval capabilities in terms of naval architects, ship builders, different mechanical engineers and propulsion engineers as well as various different elements that come together with developing new naval systems.”

He added that Milkor’s naval operation are aimed at filling a “key gap in the market for inshore patrol operations, essentially boats that are 6 to 35 meters specifically used in coast guard or naval applications maybe by marine forces as well, to do inshore naval patrol operations.”

“At the moment this is what we’ve seen in in the African continent, but this is also applicable in the Middle East and globally as well: issues around piracy, illegal fishing activities, and various smuggling activities. While in the Middle East we’ve seen a lot of insurgents and insurgent groups using naval platforms and close to shoreline operations to actually intercept some freighter vessels and container ships.

“In Asia we specifically see, because of the multitude of islands in the various shared oceans and maritime borders that they have there, a lot of infringement on these things and as well as a lot of smuggling activities.”
As Milkor continues to expand its global presence and its naval offerings the company is confident that it has be capability to meet market demands and continue its strong growth trajectory.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:36pm On Mar 11, 2025
Odunayaw:
So kabe1 started this low grade arguments in 2025. Have we not moved passed such nonsense since the 2010s?
Louder, for the kids at the back!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:35pm On Mar 11, 2025
Faithful007:
This is a more comprehensive ranking that brings in other factors besides assets.
Of course it is. All our clients would fire us if we didn't produce comprehensive analysis. wink
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long:
Faithful007:
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Top 30 companies by market cap, 2024.
I've marked the non-SA ones.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:15pm On Mar 11, 2025
Faithful007:
Kabe1 is on a rare Peruvian product.
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Both your lists are outdated, btw.
The top 30 banks in 2024:

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 11:45am On Mar 11, 2025
MiddleDimension:
Apart from entertainment, which I still doubt, I think he is not very correct on the others.
I know he is wrong, but perhaps he has figures we all don't have. grin grin grin
Entertainment & Media revenue for 2023:
SA: $16.1bn
NG: $9.0bn
Kenya: $3.8bn
Source: https://www.pwc.co.za/en/assets/pdf/africa-entertainment-media-outlook-2024.pdf
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 11:38am On Mar 11, 2025
andrewza:
i was acctually shocked when i lookd in to South Africas Nastional budget compaired to other african countries. South africa makes a lot more cash than nigeria and it why the budget is massive compared to Nigeria.
Yep.
SA's 2024 budget for 60 million pop: $132 billion;
Algeria's 2024 budget for 44 million pop: $98 billion;
Egypt's 2024 budget for 109 million pop: $97 billion;
Nigeria's 2024 budget for +200 million pop: $33 billion;
Kenya's 2024 budget for 54 million pop: $32 billion.

Put another way, SA's education budget alone, for 2024 amounted to $26 billion.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:37am On Mar 11, 2025
kabe1:
1) The Entertainment industry is also the largest in Africa.

2) Nigeria's financial services sector, Banking, E-banking and E-commerce is also larger.

3) Nigeria's construction and Real estate sector are also larger.
Care to provide some proof for the 3 points above?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 11:42am On Mar 08, 2025
Following the US decision on foreign aid and geopolitics being in flux, the UK has already announced cuts to aid to spend more on defence.
Personally, I hope all others follow.
The whole aid thing is shameful!

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:15am On Mar 07, 2025
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Zelensky headed for state visit to South Africa in April, Ramaphosa’s Presidency confirms

Zelensky plays his RSVP card for a state visit to South Africa following the explosive meeting between the Ukrainian leader and US President Donald Trump at the White House last Friday. Ukraine has long-awaited an invitation for a state visit from South Africa.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will visit South Africa next month, the South African Presidency said on Thursday.

“President Zelensky will be visiting South Africa on the 10th of April,” said Presidency spokesperson Vincent Magwenya.

“The visit is a continuation of ongoing engagements held by President [Cyril] Ramaphosa with President Vladimir Putin and President Zelensky on an inclusive peace process that will provide a path to peace between Russia and Ukraine,” he added.

Ukraine has long-awaited an invitation for a state visit from SA.

On 20 January, Ukrainian officials said that Pretoria had invited Zelensky to visit South Africa. However, Magwenya told Daily Maverick at the time that although discussions had been held about a potential visit by Zelensky to SA, no formal invitation had yet been issued.
Ramaphosa and Zelensky later met on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland to discuss details of his potential visit to SA.

The announcement of a date for Zelensky’s state visit follows the explosive meeting between the Ukrainian leader and US President Donald Trump at the White House last Friday. Zelensky left the White House early following the confrontation with Trump and Vice President JD Vance, without signing the much-awaited deal between the US and Ukraine over the joint development of natural resources.

On Monday, the Trump administration temporarily suspended the delivery of all US military aid to Ukraine, affecting more than $1-billion in arms and ammunition in the pipeline, the New York Times reported.

Following the terse meeting, European leaders raced to salvage Ukraine’s fractured relationship with the US, with the UK and France leading the charge in formulating a plan among European nations for ending Russia’s war in Ukraine.

European leaders gathered at a special meeting in Brussels on Thursday to discuss how to bolster support for Ukraine as well as Europe’s own defences.

South Africa and Ukraine have had a complicated relationship since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. But Ramaphosa’s visits to Ukraine and Russia in 2023 at the head of an Africa peace mission, and Pretoria’s participation in Zelensky’s peace formula talks since July 2023, have eased relations somewhat. DM
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-06-zelensky-to-visit-south-africa-in-april-says-presidency/?dm_source=homepageify&dm_medium=card_link&dm_campaign=keep

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:13am On Mar 05, 2025
Baller254:
grin Who wouldn't want their African president to do half of what musk and trump are doing? Just watch what the next 4 years will look like compared to the previous liberal insanity.
Almost didn't catch that you were trolling! grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:52am On Mar 04, 2025
Baller254:
honestly though, If I was an American taxpayer, I would be smiling at the job trump and his team are doing, their spending bill on Ukraine and on many other matters just got lower
Ye gods! Tinkering with $50 billion in global aid [80% spent in the US], and at best, another 50 billion for Ukraine [most of the money goes to US defence companies], in the context of $1 trillion in annual budget deficits, and $35 trillion in debt, would I suspect, please a small-minded taxpayer not particularly good at counting, easily impressed by showmanship and not substance.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 3:51pm On Mar 03, 2025
bidexiii:
Let me break your heart dude; you're far disconnected from reality and I must say also that you are being overwhelmed with emotions & facts.

Calling a "spade a spade"; Zelensky is a fool and arrogant simp. Don't be crowded with emotions bro, Russia is a super-power that wouldn't allow NATO close to her borders a decision Comedian Zelensky has brought on Ukrainians.
Let's sight a scenario; Would America allow Russia/China or a communist country near her border if there wouldn't be a WW3, A scenario i posted in this video link: .

[b][/b]Call Putin a dictator or a murderer, All European president both present and past are far worse, Western countries and NATO has blood on there hands too.

Big up's to President Trumph for saying no more funds for this thieves. Am not supporting Russia for selling Arms to Nigeria, and when was even the last time we struck any major procurement from them, the Uncle Sam sanctions was a setback for us.

If WWIII begins from this war its because an arrogant Zelensky and a devil called prime Minister Keir starmer and other EU president are pushing the fool to keep fighting I stead of coming to the negotiating table.

Trumph has seeing that if this war continues, EU countries would push super powers into a Nuclear war. An Awaiting accident Trumphs wants to avert, yet you sit on your table call him a bully/arrogant.
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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:35am On Mar 03, 2025
GreenandGold:
I'm referring to the Orange man, who's busy regurgitating Putin's points.
Ah! My initial point was referring to bidexiii's word salad.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:26pm On Mar 02, 2025
GreenandGold:
Just like how he regurgitates AfriForum+Solidarity+Elon talking points on South African affairs.
That's not him, I think? It's the other character that Odunayaw wink loves sparring with, that does that.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:34pm On Mar 02, 2025
Fidha254:
So you do agree it's a sh!t show then.
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Regurgitating Kremlin talking points doesn't lend itself well to coherent argument.
Foreign AffairsRe: Burkina Faso Lawyers And Judges Now Wear African Attire In Court (Photos) by Lurker4Long: 11:09am On Mar 02, 2025
JagabanBorgu:
South Africa is part of the Africa that is rejecting it solely because it's a "colonial relic".

The others you mentioned stopped using it ages ago, some didn't use it at all.


You don't read, your knowledge is so limited and you are here ranting, social media has a way of bringing us in touch with piss p00r IowIives who dóñ't know anything.
South Africa was the 2nd former British colony to abandon wigs, after the USA. That is before India, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and all other Commonwealth members.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 7:40am On Mar 02, 2025
bidexiii:
Nope you should shut your rotten mouth. All what you wrote or claimed Russia broke was caused by the same United States, especially the Nuclear deal and the cease fire deal were all orchestrated and triggered by the United States. President Trumph has come to the fact that America as caused alot of proxy war, lavished tax payers money sponsoring uncessary wars and even indirectly funding terrorists groups through voluntary organizations like the USAID etc..

Ukraine citizens are only a scape goat and a arrogant dictator who think the world revolves all over his ass. JD Vance is telling Zelensky the honest truth wish "Mr arrogant" could not swallow, he comes to the United States to steal Task payers money has if its a chicken change.

Past American presidents and woke EU presidents have used Ukraine to paint Russia bad and Zelensky was the perfect tool they'll want to use. [/b]ALL THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMPH, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN INTO A WWIII OR A FAR WORSE WAR BETWEEN NUCLEAR NATIONS[b]

Here is a shot video about the genesis of the Russia-Ukraine war narrated by an American.




Again Russia has never broke any deal, be specific in the deals Russia broke and I'll prove to you that all was a trap that would later lead to future catastrophe, Past American president has lead Russia into signing deals that would be systematically broke by a third party leading to a conflict like what we have in Ukraine today.
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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:37am On Mar 01, 2025
Scientists arrive in Cape Town after deep-sea discoveries on ‘Around Africa Expedition’

The OceanXplorer, docked in Cape Town, has mapped seafloor landscapes never before seen, conducted groundbreaking biodiversity surveys and provided a platform for African scientists to engage in deep-sea research first-hand.

Docked at Cape Town harbour is a former oil and petroleum survey ship turned advanced science and media ship, the OceanXplorer, which unveiled a series of remarkable discoveries made during its first Around Africa expedition.

The expedition is a pioneering mission led by Ocean X, OceanQuest and scientists from African countries, a large number of them young and early-career scientists, to explore and map uncharted ecosystems never before seen in the deep sea.

Since they departed from Comoros, the team has dived deep underwater, exploring various seamounts in Walter’s Shoal and Agulhas Plateau before arriving in Cape Town in the past week. Next, they will head to Walvis Bay.

The team has mapped seafloor landscapes never before seen, conducted groundbreaking biodiversity surveys and provided a platform for African scientists to engage in deep-sea research first-hand.

This is done using some seriously high-grade tech, including multiple deep-sea research vehicles, including two Triton submersibles, a USV (unmanned surface vehicle), and Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs) that can go to 6,000m underwater and are capable of exploring nearly the entirety of the ocean.

They also use AI technology for real-time species identification.

While in Cape Town, the team is involved in shoreside events, but the ocean research is not taking a break as they launch NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) buoys, measuring air pressure over the ocean and sea surface temperature. This data will be sent to satellites to update researchers on the weather in real time.
South Africa scientists onboard

Daily Maverick toured the ship on Wednesday and interviewed some of the lead researchers and scientists about the work they were doing.

Sinothando Shibe is a marine biologist at the South African National Parks from Durban, supporting the South Africa-France Partnership for Biodiversity and Marine Conservation, and joined as a scientist on the Around Africa Expedition 2025.

In an interview with Daily Maverick, she said: “These types of expeditions are so important for discovery because we cannot protect what we don’t know. So we have to get in there, and we have to see what’s there for us to be able to make the next steps.”

Shibe said Walter’s Shoal, a group of submerged mountains off the coast of Madagascar, had been the most fascinating spot on the expedition so far.

“It looked very different at each depth band.”

She explained they would put the ROV or the subs down, for example, at 500m, and what you would see at 500m was very different to what you’d see at 300m, and that was very different to what you’d see at 150m.

“That’s because each species or each group of animals adapt differently to different depths and the changing temperatures and the light penetration, so it was very interesting, especially when I was in the sub, to see that in that perspective and not from an ROV screen.

“Being able to actually look around, you can’t do that watching a screen, but in a sub, you have that kind of perspective where you can look around, where you can look up at the seamounts, where you can look at the little crevices on the seamounts, and the overhangs,” Shibe said.

At Walter’s Shoal, they found carbonate pebbles, deep-sea corals and species such as the Brisingid sea stars, a chimaera, a dumbo octopus, and a moray eel nestled within the rocks. The team said that viewing the Brisingid sea stars was a highlight, as they are characteristic of deep-sea ecosystems and serve as important indicators of ocean health.
Deep-sea discoveries

The expedition is led by scientist Lara Atkinson, a South African offshore marine scientist with more than a decade of experience in the industry. In 2012 and 2014, she was nominated as a National Representative for the South African Network for Coastal and Oceanic Research.

Her research focuses on establishing monitoring tools and protocols for the offshore benthic environment. In an interview with Daily Maverick, Atkinson dived at the Walter’s Shoal and the Afrikaner Seamounts that sit on the Agulhas Plateau.

The area they were working in at Walter’s Shoal is firmly within the extended continental shelf claim of Madagascar. It sits on the Madagascan Ridge, and Atkinson said it was a unique feature because it comes up so shallow.

“In the middle of this great big blue ocean, Walter’s Shoal is one of the very few seamounts that comes up to within [about] 18-15m of the sea, from the surface. It’s really close. It’s almost an island.

There have been many research expeditions to Walter’s Shoal in the past. But Aktinkson said the new piece of information that had been added through this expedition so far, specifically on Walter’s Shoal, is that they managed to record a very high-resolution map.

Atkinson described it thus: “Descending 500m into the deep and seeing the seafloor unfold before my eyes was surreal – like exploring an underwater fynbos landscape of the Western Cape. Watching a large octopus ‘play catch’ with the submersible’s lasers was a fascinating display of intelligence.”

What the team was doing specifically was a lot of water filtering for nutrients, phytoplankton, microbes and environmental DNA. That involved taking a CTD (conductivity, temperature, and depth measurement), putting it down, and sampling the water up at different depths.

And then when that water gets on board, the team filters that water through very, very fine pores, and then they can extract from those filter papers all this information about the water column.

“That’s really the driving force behind maintaining the ecosystem: the little, little tiny guys sitting at the bottom. We also wanted to capture the larger fauna, the invertebrate fauna that colonise and live on the flanks of the seamount,” Atkinson said.

A seamount is generally rocky and hard, and the species that live there are generally known as vulnerable marine indicator species. They indicate a vulnerable ecosystem type.

They didn’t manage to get to the top of Walter’s Shoal, but from 500m down, they got a high-resolution map that will be made open access to the world for future research.
Future of deep-sea protection

Atkinson said that Walter’s Shoal had been fished in the past. From the 1970s to the early 2000s, Walter Shoal was a hotspot for international fisheries’ fleets.

But in 2018, the regional fisheries management organisation, South Indian Ocean Deep Sea Fisheries Association, put in place a benefit protection zone.

Atkinson said this was more voluntary in the high seas, with no real law enforcement, but it generally would apply to and have had agreement from all groups fishing in the area.

“But we do know there is still a very tiny amount of fishing that is happening at Walter Shoal. And even one little drag of a net or a long line or any kind of lobster pot can do damage to long-lived slow-growing species,” Atkinson said.

Atkinson said that proposing any kind of a protection zone out there had to be driven by the neighbouring countries.

“Because if it is not driven by the local countries, it’s not gonna have buy-in. And I do think that that is maybe what happened from the 2018 attempt. But now we have got eyes on the seabed from the neighbouring countries, Madagascar, Mozambique and South Africa. Scientists have seen that area, and now it is gonna be up to us to kind of drive it forward into the future,” Atkinson said.

Dr Vincent Pieribone, co-CEO and chief science officer of OceanX, told Daily Maverick “Our goals are to first to explore, second to understand, and third to protect.”

He said the aim was to help these researchers study their environments and help bring their findings and insights back to their countries and their policymakers for the importance of the protection of the ocean – “the shallows, the intermediate and even the deep”.

Pieribone said that the open ocean was the only part of the earth that was largely ungoverned.

“It is truly what we would call the Wild West.”

“Ships burn the most polluting fuel once they pass outside of the EEZ (Exclusive Economic Zone) of countries. They have separate tanks. Once they leave the economic zones of countries, they often switch to different fuel sources… We feel strongly that what’s in the ocean and what’s happening in the ocean is important for everybody to pay attention,” Pieribone said.

The deep sea has been out of sight and out of mind; you don’t vacation in the deep ocean. Pieribone said you may come to South Africa to swim around with the sharks and see the penguins and the seals, but you don’t get out to the deep ocean.

Most people never do. So this vessel, Pieribone said, provided an opportunity for scientists and policymakers to understand what they have in their waters and encourage countries to protect it.

OceanX and OceanQuest are working with key local institutions, including the South African Environmental Observation Network, the South African National Biodiversity Institute, the South African National Space Agency, the National Research Foundation–South African Institute for Aquatic Biodiversity, and the University of Cape Town, to advance ocean research and conservation efforts to protect ecosystems such as this.
The Afrikaner Seamount

Another fascinating seamount the team explored before arriving in Cape Town was the Afrikaner Seamount, which sits on the Agulhas Plateau, with South Africa’s Exclusive Economic Zone cutting through just the top part of that Agulhas Plateau.

Outside South Africa’s EEZ, this Seamount hasn’t ever been properly mapped before, until now, according to Atkinson.

Atkinson said this seamount was “closer to my heart, because that’s closer to my home.” But as they set out to explore it, the team encountered difficulties due to turbulent conditions.

“What happens is that our incredibly strong, fast flowing Agulhas current comes reaming down our East Coast, breaks off and then retroflexes and flows backwards in these little eddies. They’re like these great big whirlpools out in the deep sea. And that current was simply too fast and too strong to deploy the ROV.

“Because of these conditions, the team was not able to deploy its ROV but did manage to get its CTD tool in the water. This allows scientists to measure conductivity, temperature, and depth (ie the ‘CTD’) in a water column, providing insight into the conditions faced by organisms living in that environment,” Atkinson said.

This brings up all these water samples from different depths. The team managed to get the CTD in the water twice at that seamount. But, unfortunately, Atkinson said the ROV was just simply too high a risk.

“It could get lost, and you can’t afford to lose that kind of equipment. So it was the Agulhas current and her retroflexion eddies that kept the ROV out,” Atkinson said.

But Atkinson hoped they would be able to explore the Afrikaner Seamount on the Agulhas Plateau another time.

She said the way the Afrikaner Seamount was structured was fascinating, with little ridges and peaks adjoining it, and that it was properly deep-sea, “a true deep sea seamount, and we are just desperate to explore it”.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-27-scientists-arrive-in-cape-town-after-deep-sea-discoveries-on-around-africa-expedition/?dm_source=homepageify&dm_medium=card_link&dm_campaign=keep

Foreign AffairsRe: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 8:14am On Feb 28, 2025
AskiaHarem:
Donnie is off his medication again. Southes where y’all at? grin😂
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/25/israel-war-crimes-trump-international-criminal-court/
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long:
GreenandGold:
Damn, that looks like magma running down the mountain.
No more mountain hikes for me in the Western Cape till winter; the risk of wildfires is too great from Feb to May. I'll have to venture out to EC, KZN or maybe your part of the country.

Postscript: Last night ferocious winds blew the fire to my side of the mountain [see pic]. Due to the smoke, I grabbed my dog, abandoned my house and decamped to Blouberg. Just got notification at 4pm giving the all clear.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 8:06pm On Feb 24, 2025
Lurker4Long:
Off-topic

GreenandGold, fire season has started...
Can you believe this shit:
According to SANParks, despite warnings that hiking trails in the area were closed as a result of the fire and that the public should avoid the area, people were encountered along the burnt trails on Monday morning.

SANParks advised that the hiking and running trails in Newlands, Devil’s Peak and Maclear’s Beacon remain closed until further notice for safety reasons.

“Rockfalls have occurred due to the fire and boardwalks have burnt, making the trails unsafe for hikers,” Louw said.

The public was urged to strictly adhere to these trail closures for their safety and to allow firefighting teams to complete their operations unhindered.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long:
Off-topic

GreenandGold, fire season has started, so that WhiteHawk and other choppers up-country will have to come join the fire-fighting fleet down here. My woman lives in Newlands, and she's had an interesting smoke-filled day, as you can see from the photos.

A mountain fire in Cape Town affecting the Newlands and Kirstenbosch area in Table Mountain National Park (TMNP) burnt ferociously from 3.40am on Sunday. About 50 hectares were burnt by Sunday afternoon — roughly half the size of the Cape Town CBD.

South African National Parks (SANParks) urged people to avoid the affected Newlands, Kirstenbosch and Rhodes Memorial areas. TMNP warned that trails in the Newlands and Kirstenbosch area were closed and that authorities continued to monitor the situation closely.

When the fire broke out, the TMNP cautioned that it was burning in an inaccessible area above the Lady Anne Barnard trail, with a possibility of the fire spreading to the Back Table.

At about 7am, firefighters had been battling the blaze for three hours in challenging terrain with ground crews unable to access water sources for vehicles and hoses. Aerial support had been called in to control the flames.

Fortunately, things turned around.

At about 2.30pm on Sunday, Lauren Howard-Clayton, TMNP Communications Manager for SANParks, said “Firefighters are continuing their battle against the flames in the Newlands area of Table Mountain National Park. Currently, 80 firefighters are on the scene, supported by three helicopters and a spotter.”

Howard-Clayton said one team had just been airlifted to the head off the fire on the Back Table near McClears Beacon.

She confirmed that about 50ha had burnt so far, which could be a significant area for a fire, especially in a windy mountainous terrain where flames could spread unpredictably.

The cause of the fire remains unclear.

While officials battled to get the Newlands blaze under control, multiple fires had been raging in the Cape Winelands District Municipality (CWDM), in the larger Western Cape over the weekend and the previous week – Witzenberg and Wellington had the most problematic fires with teams still battling to control some of the flames.

“The Cape Winelands District Municipality, together with resources from CapeNature and Witzenberg Municipality, have had a very challenging night fighting fires in difficult circumstances,” CWDM spokesperson Jo-Ann Otto said on Sunday morning.

On Wednesday last week, Otto said a fire that started on Oaklands farm above Wellington had been most problematic. Gale-force winds and high fuel loads provided by eucalyptus plantations and other vegetation caused the fire to spread very quickly. The fire travelled down to the Slangrivier Road which it jumped and moved into the Bo-Hermon area.

Otto said that through consistent backburning, teams were able to divert the fire from reaching horse stables and a protea plantation.

“Despite multiple crews, firefighting tankers, purpose-built Land Cruisers and the support of local farmers and agricultural workers, two sheds and a home have been destroyed. Two cottages high on the mountainside were evacuated; however, fire services were able to protect these structures,” Otto said.

On Sunday morning, Otto confirmed that in Wellington, the fire at Dunstone had been contained on Saturday night while the Rooshoek fire was reported to be contained by 2am on Sunday. Teams continue to monitor and mop up in that area.

“Teams from CWDM and CapeNature successfully drove the fire back into the plantation, where it could burn itself out.”

Otto said the fire at Oaklands had no active flames on Sunday morning, but the area was extremely hot, with a lot of smouldering coals and tree stumps. Teams were prepared for possible flare-ups.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 12:32pm On Feb 22, 2025
Fidha254:
The way Rwandan media is having unrestricted access to M23 captured territories undecided

https://www.newtimes.co.rw/article/24237/news/africa/tshisekedis-vast-armoury-in-goma-and-plan-toinvaderwanda
You mean media owned by the state that's invaded the DRC? Why wouldn't they have access?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:43pm On Feb 21, 2025
Lurker4Long:
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Ramaphosa invites isolated Zelenskiy for a state visit

Magwenya said Ramaphosa believed that there could be no credible peace process without Ukraine’s participation, and that it was not for other nations to dictate the terms of negotiated settlement.

“No peace can hold unless all parties are involved and they have to be involved equally in the process. That is the only way in which you can resolve a conflict in a manner that is long-lasting,” he said.

“All parties must have a seat around the table. We don’t believe that anybody who is involved in a conflict should be excluded in a process and we know this from our own experience, from when we negotiated our own political settlement that culminated in the constitutional democracy that we are so proud of.”

“The nitty-gritty details must be discussed by the actual parties that are involved in the conflict. There cannot be any external, dictatorial approach to how the parties resolve the conflict.”

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 4:57pm On Feb 20, 2025
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Ramaphosa invites isolated Zelenskiy for a state visit

President Cyril Ramaphosa has invited President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to South Africa for a state visit and is hoping it will happen soon, his office said this week while the United States sidelined and insulted the Ukrainian leader.

“The president wants that visit to happen as soon as possible,” said Ramaphosa’s spokesperson, Vincent Magwenya.

The formal invitation was extended on 15 January, and followed meetings between Ramaphosa and Zelenskiy on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September and the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in November.

No date has been agreed, Magwenya said, but Ramaphosa has asked diplomats to prioritise preparations for a visit.

Confirmation of the invitation came after the US began peace talks with Russia on the war in Ukraine on Tuesday and President Donald Trump signalled that he may abandon long-standing US military and financial support for Kyiv.

Ukraine was not invited to that meeting in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, and Zelenskiy’s pleas for a meeting with Trump and some coordination prior to talks with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin were shunned.

This prompted apprehension not only in Ukraine but in Europe that the Trump administration was moving to foist a peace accord on Zelenskiy that favours Putin, a perception that firmed as the week wore on.

It was informed not only by Ukraine’s exclusion from the talks but by US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth’s remarks last week that Washington would not support Ukraine’s aspirations to join Nato and that a return to Ukraine’s borders before 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea, were “unrealistic”.

Trump, for his part, suggested that Russia may have a right to Ukrainian territory seized when Russia invaded the country on 24 February 2022 because “they fought for that land”.

After the meeting in Saudi Arabia, Trump said Ukraine had started the war, the biggest in Europe since World War II.

Zelenskiy responded to Trump’s revision of history by saying: “I would like to have more truth with the Trump team.” He added that the US president was living “in a web of disinformation”.

Trump then called Zelenskiy “a dictator” and on Wednesday threatened him in a social media post, saying he had “better move fast” to make peace or “he is not going to have a country left”.

Magwenya said Ramaphosa believed that there could be no credible peace process without Ukraine’s participation, and that it was not for other nations to dictate the terms of negotiated settlement.

“No peace can hold unless all parties are involved and they have to be involved equally in the process. That is the only way in which you can resolve a conflict in a manner that is long-lasting,” he said.

“All parties must have a seat around the table. We don’t believe that anybody who is involved in a conflict should be excluded in a process and we know this from our own experience, from when we negotiated our own political settlement that culminated in the constitutional democracy that we are so proud of.”

Magwenya said that where Ramaphosa could help to facilitate negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv, he would be “more than happy to do so”.

“But what we will not do as South Africa is to start dictating the terms,” he added.

“The nitty-gritty details must be discussed by the actual parties that are involved in the conflict. There cannot be any external, dictatorial approach to how the parties resolve the conflict.”

The falling out between Washington and Kyiv came as South Africa was preparing to host a meeting of foreign ministers of G20 nations in Johannesburg on Thursday.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio is snubbing the meeting as part of the ongoing diplomatic row between Washington and Pretoria, but Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will attend.

Magwenya confirmed Ramaphosa was expecting a courtesy call from Lavrov, suggesting that he would brief the president on the talks in Riyadh, which were officially led by Rubio.

Leaders of major European countries on Monday held a hastily arranged summit in Paris, prompted by Trump’s rapprochement with Putin and decision to embark on negotiations on Russia’s war in Ukraine without including them.

Magwenya said it was imperative that Europe be given a seat at the negotiating table.

“We believe that all interested parties must be heard, and that includes Europe. A peace deal between Russia and Ukraine should not exclude any party. It should include the US, it should include Europe.”

Foreign diplomats in South Africa said they expected the US initiative on the war in Ukraine to be discussed on the sidelines of the G20 meeting.

The event is an opportunity for South Africa, which holds the year-long presidency of the G20, to shore up consensus around an agenda that focuses strongly on equitable development and sustainability — themes Rubio dismissed as proof of the host nation’s “anti-Americanism” — and to deepen alliances with European nations.

European diplomats last week expressed support for South Africa’s leadership of the world’s top forum for economic cooperation, with European Commission president Antonio Costa saying the EU was committed to deepening ties with South Africa, as a “reliable and predictable” partner.

Officials said while the government would not seek to isolate the US after Trump suspended all donor funding to South Africa, the tone adopted recently by Hegseth and US Deputy President JD Vance would not hurt its search for common ground with European partners.

At the 61st Munich Security Conference last Friday, Vance told European leaders to stop marginalising far-right parties, after his meeting with the ultra-nationalist Alternative for Germany (AfD), which has not been banned but kept out of ruling coalitions by the country’s so-called firewall against extremism.

Vance was rebuked by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who said his country would not take directions on how to run its democracy or accommodate a party that minimised Nazi crimes.

“A commitment to ‘never again’ is not reconcilable with support for the AfD,” Scholz said.

In his presidential order cutting off aid to South Africa, Trump reiterated his support for Afrikaners, who he says are a white minority group who face racial persecution under post-apartheid rule.
https://mg.co.za/politics/2025-02-20-ramaphosa-invites-isolated-zelenskiy-for-a-state-visit/

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 4:47pm On Feb 20, 2025
Odunayaw:
Tinfool as usual
I now understand why Kikuyu always reacted the way he did towards him.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:44pm On Feb 19, 2025
ViceAdmirlAgain:
Newly unveiled APC's of the Namibian Military, looks like they are mounted with a RWS, anyone that can help ID them?
That's the Milkor Bushcat APC. Any idea how many you guys have acquired?
Welcome back!

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