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sammyscholar:
oga, stop placing yourself on a pedestal that was never meant for your type. An intellectual figure would never have posted what you posted. You are not one and you can never be one. Only a dunce would write this:

ABU will win because you paired them with "paki" universities and polytechnics. If you really needed a keenly contested competiton, then why not UI vs UNN or UNILAG vs OAU?"

emaculate99:
Emaculate ma

Ask4bigneyo:
Grading Sent.
Cc: Luxanne, Fynestboi

adeaks:
I can't see any mail in my inbox.


I must say you are doing a wonderful work with this debate.

If we complain about the mindless inanities dominating Nairaland, then intellectual pursuits like this should also be greatly applauded.

I know it can't be easy, but kudos to you and the team.

MosquitoLaps:
Bros, she's my lady, not yours.
Trespass is not allowed.

Freemanan:
Sent...
cc Luxanne Fynestboi

penplayer:
I already discussed with fynestboi.

OAUTemitayo:
That would be a double post.

Freemanan:
Well, let me forward my scores.

Freemanan:
I thought these write-ups would have been prepared before 4pm....

Carlson001:
cant u extend it?

Carlson001:
AlmostDone

MosquitoLaps:
when is the scheduled time for our segment?

Fynestboi:
Coordinating: Luxanne

Thollulope:
We out
thanks to contestants, u tried
tho its painful,afta studying,editing and sleepless nyt, having such deduction, because of word count yh the judges hav made dier decision
My failure here doesnt make me a loser
gracias

Thollulope:
Do we hav the court of appeal here
15marks too much for word counts
please can we write officially for u guys to reduce it

noskyboy:
fynestboi, luxanne and all. in as much as the new result favours unijos which I rep, I think 15 marks reduction is very harsh considering the work the debaters may have put into the work. I am a debater and if am treated with such harshness, I may be discouraged. pls. be more considerate. thanks for taking time to address the issue.

I just gave ObiZeal this response

luxanne:
Bear in mind that 3 judges graded this debate and if they were to penalize these teams, they will be doing that personally. However, in future occurences, I agree with you that the marks should be looked into.

Just work with the laid down rules and you won't be found wanting OK?

Good morning

obiZEAL:
haba, wetin won come remain again now....please just deduct 5marks each + they are first time offenders... fynest think am now
modified
i think u and fynestboi should look into this again, its too extreme...u have no idea what this will do to the debaters involved.

Geestarry:
Thank you (Chief) Moderator and the Judges for the opportunity and the lessons learnt so far.

In homes, children roll on the floor in protest to their parents, scatter things, in fact break things in the act just so that parents would listen to them. They grow up to understand they really would have just said it nicely and their parents either still would have provided what they wanted or had very good reasons not to -at the times the demands were made.

I believe representatives in the essay competition are University Undergrads, but this whole "public show" of bitterness as expressed in their language tells how far the oil has run from the head to the beard.

"Well, it is not too late for us to pull out of this contest if the integrity of the contest is questionable..." Excuse me, but threatening to leave the competition can be condoned at all? When it is not like your observations have been overlooked or unattended to? Then maybe footballers should fight the referees in most matches. And the subsequent ..."Pulling out? Are you new in this? If this is how others that pointed out one error or two had been pulling out, will there be third edition?..." was unnecessary, sincerely. Sounded too desperate to keep people in the competition. I would have assured him of a review of the score and in turn implore to comport himself, it is a competition amd threats are not allowed by participants, unless otherwise I am wrong.

Plus, "Hmm. UNIUYO played on the judges intelligence, I think the competition is still on and they should be penalized for it......" is an undue and incorrect summation; it is NOT a fact. UniUyo DID NOT do this, if a team member "lifted", the penalty should affect his personal scores as did one of the judges already [this by extension would affect the team's score]. I believe deducting from the grand totals was extreme. If the judges were asked to review his (the lifter's) marks, that would have been more appropriate. Deducting from the grand total implies two things:

a) That you ALSO deducted from his team mate's score who's essay (write-ups) was not faulted by any other contestant because she was careful to observe ALL the rules to the extent that she gave her word-count at the end of her essay. The judges are humans and no other person gave their word count to help them (the judges).

b) Even the score from the judge that had penalized him already has been affected the second time. This implies a double deduction from his score. Please, did he commit murder?

MY SUGGESTION
1. I could simply ask, what was the mark allotted for "word count"? That could be deducted from the dfaulters' score by the two other judges.

2. Lifting is subject to the judges' analysis. That should be personal for each judge to decide to the extent to which the scores they alloted him would be review. Unless there was an already laid down rule/standard, then and only then, would the judges come together, review the essay in question and agree upon WHETHER THE ACCUSED IS GUILTY for which the rule would be excuted.

If there was no laid down rule on this, upon deciding his fate, the judges MUST in turn consider all my observations above as a matter of tranparency in making a decision.

I must commend every input made by everyone in "the house". It seems we all presented our concerns more appropriately after my first observation; this goes a long in affirming how ready we are to do the right, if only our attentions are drawn and we are afforded the opporrunity to make amends.

Please, do not attack my person as a result of this, I am not enbittered by the second Grand Total Scores, I have just made my sincere observations, patiently walking through the very long "thread" of words.

Thank you

Tourshaw:
If you insist nothing is wrong with that essay except for the word count, that means you are saying this competition is testing our lifting prowess not our writing prowess. Thank you

Tourshaw:
Dear respected judge, that is not enough measures to justify the mindless lifter. If someone lifts and makes sure what he or lifts is not more than his or her handiwork, that one is mindful lifting. But here 80% of the guy's essay is lifted and only 20% is his handiwork I think, that is mindless lifting. I don't know why you don't see anything wrong with the guy' questionable attitude. Pls. Sir/Ma, refer back to his post and the website to see it yourself.
Thank you.