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MuttleyLaff:
Dont mind him, he is hiding under 'isms, 'cratics and 'ability words just to cover up his misunderstanding of what true and pure religion is, especially the sort of religion you can't ever fault or cant ever find flaws, in.

What is this one saying?

hulk616:
Rambo: Last Blood 10/10

As expected a masterpiece like this will have bad reviews because there are few high level thinkers in the world . This movie did a good job in showing how rapists should be killed. Those KIAs by Rambo were legendary, punisher will be proud.

And another great performance by a marvel actor.

The hulk sized weed you have been smoking this quarantine period is phenomenal.

Grandpa rambo 10/10? Damn.

MuttleyLaff:
Is the Pope Catholic? Is The Alfa Muslim, lol?

Maximus69:
I wonder o!

lol.....If I open a thread on Jehovah's Witness, both of you will run. I spent time with people from that cult church.

hulk616:
close my mouth how?
You see black widow will do better than Wonder woman

See this one. WonderWoman will blow like banger. 1 billion dollars in the box office.

DC shall rise again!

hulk616:
you can read marvel movies

No, he should read vampire novels. My favourite is Necroscope by Brian Lumley.

I got lost in that series.....


Or read about zombie apocalypse as we are in an apocalyptic situation right now.

World War Z

mekaprime:
Lolz..so with the above, am supposed to have a rethink about my religion right??

It all boils down to what one chooses to believe in. I choose the Christ like doctrine & i do so unflinchingly with all my heart & without an iota of doubt. If you call me a sheeply follower, you're not far from the truth, cause that's what i am & that's what i chose to be.

Yes. This was my exact reply to DrDax. It is down to personality. I have a very inquisitive personality, I cannot submit to blind faith.

You on the other, hand are passionate and unwavering in your faith in Christ.

It is what it is. 8 years on nairaland has taught me that people will choose to believe what they believe. All you can do is pass the message. Cheers

hulk616:
Never
My level of thinking is higher than theirs

Patiently waiting for Wonderwoman 1984 to close your mouth and reduce your marvel pride.

Liposure:
u spoke my mind. god doesnt interfere in d affairs of men. Everything around us is ruled by fate

A very flawed and dangerous belief. That kind of thinking led Pastor Adeboye to claim that it was predestined for those that died from Covid-19 to die.

Maximus69:
True Christians don't just believe here say, there are duties attached to our Faith.

You once asked me to join you in carrying out a global campaign remember?

Well true Christians are zealously doing that in an ORGANIZED manner, so if you're not part of the program, JWs won't accept you as one of us!

Are you a JW?

mekaprime:
Philosophy you say?.... And what is philosophy?
Philosophy is a theory, an idea, a notion, a believe, a view point, a school of thought, a doctrine.
So I ask again, why should i question my religion over a philosophy put out by someone, someone like you & i ??

No problem. I just wanted to see where you stand with your faith.

Let me leave you with some few points

1. Your religion, in of itself, is philosophy (or philosophies). (Christianity is the philosophy of monotheistic salvation/forgiveness/etc)

2. Idea or notion exists independent of the messenger. Whether a human, an alien or god is the messenger, truth is truth.

3. Your religion was brought to you from European Christian colonisers to your ancestors and to your parents/religious leader who indoctrinated you into the religion.

4. Your religion too was put out by flesh and blood. If you believe that your religion is divinely sent, so too can muslims, pagans and satanists claim that their religion is divine.


We can leave things here. But if you want to continue the discussion, no problem. Thanks

DrDax:
Just view God as the CEO/Management, He sees the BIGGER PICTURE.

We do not agree with every decision handed down to us by our bosses at work, they have their reasons.

I guess you think like that Cynical old man at the funeral in GREATER.

With time you will go a step further.

We all have our paths...

While I understand your point, I feel that this all is down to personality.

I have an inquisitive mind and I just cannot accept laws or commandments just like that. I believe not questioning your masters is slavery.

hulk616:
someone is saying the truth here.

Lol......DC too want to win awards

mekaprime:
Why should i question my religion over the perception of someone, knowing fully well that folks choose the narration that bests suits em'.

So, the matrix did not even make you think?

Furthermore, it is not just a perception- these movies put forward a philosophy. And some, a religion take matrix with the Bahai faith.

Are you saying that you never question your religion?

MJBOLT:

Black Panther

Calm down, I was only joking.

I was just implying that Marvel cannot have it all and that haters in the awards body will limit their oscars.....

mekaprime:
I must commend your rational thoughts, but the ways of men are not the ways of God.

Let's see predestination from this perspective. God has simply planned the purpose for human beings in the beginning (to become His sons and daughters), although he Chose not to know what we'd choose, rather, he gave us freewill to choose from an array of possibilities.

In Genesis, there's a place were God talked with Cain, who was upset that his offering was not accepted. God told him, “If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.” If God had already predetermined what Cain would do, it would have been pointless to give Cain the advice to “rule over” sin. God gave Cain this advice and then allowed him to make his own decision.

God again encouraged the ancient Israelites to “choose life”—that is, choose His way of life so they could receive blessings. Again, if God already knew what choice they would make, this encouragement would have been pointless.

He knows all the possible outcome about our lives, but he chosen not to interfere, but rather, he give us the choice (freewill) to decide our own path. So when we err as a result of our wrong choices, we are liable for his wrath & punishment.

There's a clear difference between Not Knowing & Not Wanting To Know. That God doesn't Want to know, doesn't mean he wouldn't know if he chooses to know.

Everyone knows that I'm a hardcore atheist here but I do not want to get into a religious debate.

I just want to ask you a simple question-

WHEN YOU WATCH FILMS LIKE PROMETHEUS, 12 YEARS A SLAVE, THE MATRIX ETC, DO THEY MAKE YOU QUESTION YOUR RELIGION?

Many hollywood films are made by atheists as well. The films I listed above in the question all tackle religion in different ways

1. Prometheus posits that life was seeded unto earth by aliens not god.

2. 12 years a slave has a scene were a white christian master was reading the bible and flogging a black slave

3. The matrix asks if this life is just a simulation and what if all we know is just wrong. It uses elements of Bahai faith

hulk616:
that's why Marvel is the best. You won't believe that the conclusion of this masterpiece (Endgame) did not win an Oscar.

You Marvel Fans thought you could collect all the box office money and still get oscars? You think that DC does not have homeboys in the awards body?

VcStunner:
What's Atheism?

Atheism is the lack of belief in a god?

Timfreds:
Really there is increasing number of atheists in nairaland.
But to me I attribute it to DEMONS personifying as nairalanders and always commenting on issues of religion just to deceive people from God. The devil is all out for souls to take to hell.
Please nairalanders, don't fall for Satan, Jesus loves you.

Keep quiet.

See your mouth like demon.

Is it hard for you to accept that there are people who do not believe in your god, and are living a good life?

alexistaiwo:
Who told you that I don't believe in any God, gods or Lord?



I am a full time agnostic and part time Christian

See wetin quarantine dey cause.

Abeg, pass me that holy weed.

GRIMMJOE:
ANYBODY QUOTE ME, YOU QUOTE FIRE!!!

I just quoted you and im not burnt

budaatum:
When you went to church, did you find the women were silent, not permitted to speak and in submission?

Lol.....women are not allowed to lead catholic mass.

MuttleyLaff:
The saying wasn't refering to "pastors today who were armed robbers before" but was to whoever, is on this thread who the cap fits to wear, lol

I joined nairaland 8 years ago. That is long time. I must have learned something along the line

MuttleyLaff:
Do leopards change their spots. Need I say more? Need I go on?

That saying is flawed. There are pastors today who were armed robbers before.

MuttleyLaff:
There is a colloquial that says, a fool and his money soon will part. So nothing surprising nor new under the heavens on this

A christian fool at that.

MuttleyLaff:
I am not surprised you are weakened and thats solely because your arguments from word go, have been based on preconceived opinions and hidden agenda ideas. You really didn't set out nor had any intentions, in the first instance, to have a discussion.

Yeah...Mr Judgemental and his overbearing judgments.

Be pronouncing nonsense judgements on my character. Joker

Vicachiever:
A FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD. most atheist are agnostics, they dont know if there is God but many others are hardened sinners who pretend and hope there is no God so that they wont fear for judgement against sin. A few others are confused because of some terrible situation and experience and decide that its safe to assume God does not exist because of the chaos in the world but all these self acclaimed atheist fear darkness, death and spiritism which is a proof to them that the unseen exist. God has used several instances to try to reach them but they harden their heart. Well when death comes it will be too late and the sound of their cry will go up forever.

This anger and threats that you religious people do does not work. It turns people away from religion.

Vicachiever:
Let me also add that there is a new atheist group. This ones wont tell u that the dont believe in God o but they fight anything religion and both condemn and abuse faith in God or service of God. They full nairaland and are the ones spoiling christian threads. They wont come here and make noise because by their stage of evolution they cant accept the name atheist. This how atheism starts in develiped societies but in future they will all become professing atgeist.
Atheism is in the rise in nigeria because increased secular education that had lost moral background and globalisation because of increased acess to the internet and knowlege. This is the age of information . the bible said in the endtime knowledge shall increase. Daniel 12.
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If knowledge and access to information are increasing, then why should religion be in the decline? Is religion a from of anti-knowledge? A form of ignorance?

MuttleyLaff:
Get yourself together and dont be daft
What impudence

You see yourself now, hmm? Has anyone proselytized you on this thread yet, huh?
I have been proselytized here to try atheism. Did it bother me. Did I squeal? Did I have a strop and throw out my dummy. Nah. Thick skin things going on there. You just right there was going on a strawmanning expedition. It's not the season yet for that, lol

*Yawns*


I am weakened from this discussion.

greatbygrace:
That's your assumption. Wow it never crossed my mind. I don't even know you, why will I think that you will burn in hell? If anything I will love you to have peace.

I'm sorry if in the past you have met judgemental people who profess Christianity. It is actually unfair to stereotype me with them because you don't know me either.

I didn't think of hell through out this discussion, all I was thinking was if you truly have the experience I'm talking about maybe you will change you mind.

Christianity doesn't teach condemnation but reconciliation.

Okay, no problem.

MuttleyLaff:
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Your cheap parlor tricks, hmm?

It is only an unconfident person, that's not brave enough, who'll be employing tricks, underhand cheap parlor tricks and not showing their hands beforehand, then when caught out, resort to hiding behind "You were the one that refuse to follow the chain of thoughts." Smh.

I know you will not apply sense, so let this just die here.

greatbygrace:
I guess you see that there is no basis for argument because there is no common ground.

You are also free to believe there is no God because we all have one thing in common which is choice.
I can only hope and pray that one day, you will see the glorious light.
Life is not by chance, there is a reason.

Thank you for the good discussion.

Good discussion but are you leaving this discussion believing that I will burn in hell because of my choice?

MuttleyLaff:
You, MacCantStopMe, are a bonafide and kofam evidence for the spiritual. The problems there, are, you not having knowledge and/or awareness of this, lol

Noboby has. It's the beauty of the stuff that, free will, is made up from, lol. This is life, lol

What is wrong with you? Do you dislike me that much that you will start saying nonsense just to oppose me?

You as a Nigerian already know that many Christians and muslims force their religion on others. Imagine Christians refusing to hire non Christian's or even at times non members of their church. Governors using state money for religious exercises. People disowning children for converting away from their religion.

So to claim that no one forces god on others is a joke.