Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 12:27pm On Sep 22, 2010 |
mothersjoy: ujujoan i do think you are living in coocoo la la land as stealing is a serious offence enough to deserve a whooping but only from parent who dont steal themselves.
I remember the adage in nj 'ibi ti eyan bantin she lo tin je' and he who practices this is a thief cos they use it to justify stealing such that a thief parent begats a thief child in my book. Methinks that when a child steals the first time one should look at the underlying cause and reason for such action. It could be a plethora of things. Attention seeking, genuine need that has not been met? Whooping that child hasn't solved anything And I agree being a parent one must lead by example! TOTALLY! |
Politics › Re: Things About Nigeria That Make You Cringe! by madchen(f): 12:21pm On Sep 22, 2010 |
Disgusting customer service wherever you go! Judging a woman married to a Caucasian, and assuming she is a prostitute that wants to use the man, or get out of the country Stupid mentality that an older person is always right, when they are clearly WRONG |
Politics › Re: Things About Nigeria That Make You Cringe! by madchen(f): 12:16pm On Sep 22, 2010 |
Our pretentious nature Our belief that money is the answer to everything (that basically goes to the root of all of our problems) Our religious fanaticism Our hypocrisy. So quick to judge!!!
I'm sure there's more , will post when it comes to mind |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 12:09pm On Sep 22, 2010 |
spikedcylinder: Yes!!!!! It stopped me from stealing milk and meat o. My mother nearly killed me! Well, I hope you wont succeed in killing your own kid , when you 'whoop the shit' out of him |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:59am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Ujujoan: When I say 'general', I mean majority! I know their methods were a bit tough, but I still think it wasn't all bad. As humans, they made mistakes, but they did that in good faith! I wonder if it was really in good faith, or just taking out their frustrations. However, the cycle must be broken! It goes to the very root of our actions as a society. Sad really  |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:54am On Sep 22, 2010 |
ElRazur: I think by the time they stopped, the damage is already done. Also most of them only stopped because age caught up with them (You can still tell in their voice you that they wish they were in control)
Most of these damage are almost irreparable and sows a seed that most likely will give out negative result. I am a good example of that, I did not attend his funeral because of what I experienced from him. And as it stand, it will probably be the same with my Sister IF attempts are not made to reconcile etc. You see, I am speaking from the heart and it is clear to see that I have hatred and unwillingness to probably forgive sown in me towards these set of people. Hey, ElRazur, are you getting help or talking to anyone about your experiences? These set of people had a hold on you when you were young and defenseless, and holding on in anger and unforgiveness still gives them the power over you! (Even if it's not in the same way) Please share and talk to someone and be completely healed (((((hugs)))) |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:50am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Ujujoan: My elder sister had it the roughest of all of us. She wasn't even the first, she was the 3rd. But for some reason, she was just plain stubborn. The more you beat her, the worse she got.
@ 10, she ran away from home.
@ 15, she got pregnant for a married man, had an abortion on her own and almost died from the bleeding.
@ 20, she was in the university, collecting money for school fees and never going for lectures. After 4 years, she graduated, without a degree!
@ 25, she ran away with her BF and we didn't from her for 2 years. She came back, broke, single and jobeless. She had to start life all over!
@ 30, she's single, no meaningful job, has practically no sense of responsibilty and the whole family still take turns to pay for her house rent!
But looking back now, I could just see that she wasn't raised right. What she needed was love and not beatings. She was the sweetest, brightest and most generous of us all. She couldnt cope with the level of discipline and she went haywire. If I can see that now, why couldn't they see it back then 
Now, I just pray she finds her way, cos she's just a poor lost soul!  I am sooooo sorry your poor sister had to go through all of this. Is she in Nigeria now? You are right ! Showing love is all that a kid needs, they are not goats that have to be flogged! No way! They are human beings, malleable and impressionable. We can clearly see that from your sisters case. Bless her! |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:47am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Okija_juju: HUH!! 
I am speechless!!
Look I understand the whole grounding thing e.t.c, but I think different kids call for different disciplinary methods. My kid sister crys when she is grounded. Grounding being; sit on the chair, with the TV tuned to CARTOON NETWORK and dont move or talk. She would cry her eyes out and apologise for whatever it is she was being grounded for. But once shes ungrounded, it barely takes her 1hour to repeat the same deed for which she was initially grounded. But if you smack her, she gets the message, and quick!!! 'Smacking' does not define the experiences shared on this thread! Cable wires, bottles, that's not smacking! That's child abuse. Plain and simple. *In my humble opinion* |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:44am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Ujujoan: But 'flogging' doesn't solve anything!
You know, my elder sister was a real 'black sheep'. It was like, the more she got flogged, the worse things she did. One time, my dad poured boiling water on her fingers for painting her nails with curtext, and the next day, she used a darker shade!
If you flog your child for stealing, it won't make him to stop. It'll only make him to steal and not get caught. Hitting a child NEVER solves anything! ITA Ujujoan! |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:41am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Ujujoan: Don't you understand? This is the Nigerian system. Even in schools, you got beaten back then for unjusitified reasons. Serious beating oh, with koboko. It's not like it was just a few parent's thing, it was a general thing. Their parents did it to them and they felt it was thrie right to do it to their children.
If you try to complian to an uncle or aunt, they themselves will give you the beating of your life.
Nobody would intervene with that cos it's just the way the system works!  Well I honestly hope that the system changes. It's a terrible culture, a terrible system and a ridiculous way of handling kids. It is. A lot of these parents must have been frustrated, work, in-laws, cheating spouses, and they took it out on the poor defenceless kid. Were they really trying to 'raise' healthy and balanced kids? I would say no! It's just instilling fear. I also beg to differ that it was a general thing. I was NEVER hit by my parents. My parents always spoke to my siblings and I . They understood that we were individuals. And I love and respect them totally today for that! Communication lines should always be kept open! YES, I was born and raised in Nigeria! What is bad is bad, there's no other name for it. Beating your kids until they are almost comatose is wrong!!!!!!! Simply put! |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:35am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Okija_juju: Look!! I dont think I am wholly against whooping a child o!! Infact flogging is still one of the surest and time tested means of discipline. But IMO, we shouldnt abuse it like our parents and their parents did. I dont think flogging should be punishment for a child who went out to play football in front of the house with the neighbours kids.
But if he steals, whoop the shi't outta that kid. And when you 'whoop the shit out of that kid' , what does that solve? Does it stop the kid from stealing again  As we have read on this thread, some people have said that they became better liars. *Food for thought* |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:32am On Sep 22, 2010 |
elrony: birthdays were out of my dictionary or else i would have my backside on a muhammed ali toaster oven The birthday thing I have never heard! Were you guys raised as Jehova's Witnesses? They are the only ones I know that don't celebrate birthdays. |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:51am On Sep 22, 2010 |
bblacky: all these are common malady in the Nigerian homes way back en even now en i tell u guys till d world come to an end, as we de here so de talk ds stories ehhh na so our own children go tell them generation wetin we too do them.
in my home then, boy ehhh popsi na hard man, u dare not look him in d face, there are stipulated rules, u have your timetable pasted in your door, some of the rules;
rules 1, No playing rules 2, no coming back late from school rules 3, no friends rules 4, no complaining of less sugar in your tea abi na akamu too much paper in your meal or no meat atal in your food. So many rules, u dare not violate them, as for the time scheduling of activities in and outside the home try the wrong thing at the right time en earn urself a beating dt wil land u in a clinic. as the first baby now en a girl in a ghetto arh arh, trust d man, he never takes a nonsense not minding how tiny u look his cane is always there d koboko or his belt whicheva is near at the time of your misbehaviour.
but thank God now, hmmmm make him try me, i go just waka commot sef.
but i tell you, we were trained dt way to become what we are today, then it looks as thou we are been maltreated but NONONO, its LOVE, PURE PARENTAL LOVE, PPL I doubt you read the posts on this thread! LOVE  ? I strongly disagree . That's just warped! |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:47am On Sep 22, 2010 |
mydreamz: This one am yet to forgive my dad about it. And yeah I plan on reminding him this when next I go home. I was writting my waec, and I was sick, with malaria My elder sister is a nurse, so dad gave her money to get some injection for me And when she was ready to inject me I wasnt ready.I was so scared that she has to be chasing me around the house. Then she was begging me that pls take this injection, remember you have exams, (I know she is so sweet). Then popsi just overheard and he came out of his room and was like, "are you guys still on this injection issue, she should be sleeping now" Being the disciplinarian he thinks he is and as we all fear him, he was trying to scare me to take the injection, but I was too scared of the needle I think he got angry and went in to get a doubled wire (those black NITEL CABLE), and gbam he started trashing me. Imagine trashing someone that is sick, Imean serious thrashing. I should have just feigned faint, when I look back, it still pain me. I see that as wickedness. That's just CRAZY evil. I really wonder what all these parents were thinking then? Beating a child who's ill and has a fear for needles into submission. Unbelievable. They must have been abused by their own parents too. If anything, this thread is allowing people to share and opens the door to healing, and this vicious and STUPID cycle of believing that a kid has to be beaten will be broken. Hope we can all understand that we are meant to protect our kids, and not oppress them. There is a lot wrong with our society today! I wonder why? So much for charity begins at home. The homefront seems to be the cruelest place of all. So so so sad!  |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:40am On Sep 22, 2010 |
omar22: NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID TO YOU,
Malachi 4:6 He will convince parents to look after their children and children to look up to their parents. If they refuse, I'll come and put the land under a curse." (amplified Version) Before I conclude, please can you tell me what turning away from your parents is, does this include loving them unconditionally, even though they have not shown you any love. What standards are these parents held to  |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:33am On Sep 22, 2010 |
mothersjoy: The question for us now that are parents is are you a loving parent, what do you do that makes your children know you love them, do you help to develop your child's reasoning skills or are you teaching them to be oppressive to those younger than them, are you a do what i say parents or do what I do i.e is your life exemplary, when you discipline them do you tell them what they have done wrong or do you know what they have done wrong, now that you are an adult do you know the difference between discipline and abuse, which are you a disciplinarian or an abuser.
Most parents think because they have had the child he or she owes them the air he or she breaths but i think if most of them think deeply enough they will realise the only person that had a choice as to the bringing of the child into this world is them, they will realise that they owe their children big time cos if children had a choice would they choose you ? big question Very well said! You only hit animals to make them do what you want. Not kids. |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:30am On Sep 22, 2010 |
Ayowumie: @dayokanu, having read through all your posts on this thread, now my conclusion:
You had a highly traumatic childhood experience. I thank God for your life that you were able to repress some of the experience other wise Anini's scenarios in the 80s would be a child's play. REPRESS?? I hope people are not repressing feelings and emotions here. repression is never a good thing, dealing with the issues and finding peace and moving forward is key. But of course a lot of Nigerians don't believe in therapy.  |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:27am On Sep 22, 2010 |
omar22: I have seen the height of physical brutality from failing an exam to watching football or video at my friend’s house, my dad stopped the smacking when we were young but my mum! Lord have mercy!!!! From koboko, cane, pine, omorogun (eba stick) the broken stool’s leg, fan belt, electrical cable, belt, ruler (for Technical drawing). My dad has that look that could make you wee on yourself…. If I touch his car or the hi fi system I would remember the day I was born like…
All in all I could be bitter about it, but no! Because a preacher once said that theirs a curse (quoted from the bible) that follows those who turn against their parents most especially the father NO MATTER THEY DID, But I would never ever repeat what they did to my children…, We had this horrible senior prefect when I was in form one that beat every single class one student! And we are talking about class 1a- 1i (average 35 students each)…
When I was in class 5 I once tried to punish a new entrance to the school but I couldn’t go through it in the end.
One my in-law tried ever so well not to turn on her mum but, her money doesn’t mix with anything to do with her mother…. Really  ? NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID?(Sexually molesting you, and all that, please google the story of Marcus Wesson, the kids should LOVE such a man? ) What exactly is the definition of turning against ones parent? And emphasis on father. I'm amazed by what a lot of people think and believe in . To each their own . |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 10:22am On Sep 22, 2010 |
*insert soundtrack* MJ's 'Have you seen my childhood' |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 9:49am On Sep 22, 2010 |
oyinda.: what's the big deal about sex education sef. the only children that need explicit sex education in my opinion are the ones that start having sex early (maybe due to bad friends etc). and such a child is probably already a lost cause. most decent kids don't really need it.
OMG!!!!!! Are you joking? Please tell me you are. 'decent kids' ? What's the definition`? |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 11:17pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
I am so glad that people are not expressing things that seem real to me. This has nothing to do with being Nigerian or not , we are all human beings. A lot of stories I have read here are over the top! Most of them are abuse, and there is really nothing funny about it. And to just automatically say that it is the Nigerian way of life is just not cutting it for me.
I agree that many people will need therapy, for the ways they were brought up, some people are stronger, they can repress the memory so it doesnt affect them. And being a good parent has nothing to do with modernism!!!!! TALK to your kids, they are HUMAN BEINGS, being a parent doesnt give anyone the right to act like a god in the house and LORD over the kids. Its just sick. |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 7:19pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
okunoba: If beating kids made them better as adults Nigerians would be the most law abiding people in the World, we wouldn`t have a society dominated by dishonesty and corruption. All the abuse disguised as disciplining children is part of the reason the country is ripe with all forms of injustice, brutality and dishonesty. We learnt it all from our wretched upbringing, that culture of abuse called love by some who are still in denial. We are bound to violence, everywhee in our upbringing there is that touch of violence. I resent the violence inflicted on children in Nigeria by the so called love ones. As they say violence breeds violence. Y was it so difficult for Nigerian parents to talk and reason with their kids instead of using violence and abusive words, it`s no surprise even on Nairaland many of us find it impossible to discuss issues without resulting to abusive words. ITA! A matter of time before they ask you if you are Nigerian! |
Family › Re: My Husband Is Gay! by madchen(f): 7:01pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
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Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 6:58pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
OT: How does one send a private message to someone, and how does one start a thread? |
Family › Re: My Husband Is Gay! by madchen(f): 6:56pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
Is it possible to private message someone here ! Without adding the person on to yahoo mssgr, or the likes? Sorry , I know it's off topic. Also how does one start a thread? |
Family › Re: My Husband Is Gay! by madchen(f): 6:54pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
Wow , this Nairaland has some VERY weird posters! |
Family › Re: My Husband Is Gay! by madchen(f): 6:53pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
tensor777: Well it is a nonsense to claim he has always been gay What exactly is that supposed to mean??. Nobody, and I mean nobody, was created a pervert.
Nevertheless if he was actually caught in[i] flagrant delit[/i], so to say, then you have no option but to separate - not divorce - from him. If you happen to be a Christian then you should use the separation period to go on a stint of targeted prayers against any evil power or personality that is intent on ruining your marriage How does being gay equate to being a pervert? It's not the same thing! |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 5:55pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
I'm not quoting right! Anyways Ujujoan, that was a direct reply to you post  |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 5:52pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
mädchen: Those were my words exactly in this thread earlier. I'm not asking anyone to hate their parents o! (Although I'm sure some do ) I'm yoruba! someone asked! Born, and raised in Nigeria! I don't know for a fact if you can say that no one hates their parents. People resent their parents for many diverse reasons, and some don't even have anything to do with hitting a kid, or 'disciplining' Good for you that you were not traumatised by ur parents 'disciplining' you. |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 5:47pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
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Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 5:38pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
[quote author=dayokanu link=topic=511646.msg6794744#msg6794744 date=1285086983][/quote]Ujujoan, I meant asking your parents today! I don't think they'd slap you today. I'm assuming everyone's grown |
Nairaland General › Re: Things Our Parents/guardians/elders Did That Was Wrong Back Then by madchen(f): 5:36pm On Sep 21, 2010 |
mydreamz: Aint you from Nigeria, 100% but my parents didn't 'thrash' me for talking, And to assume that it's 'Nigerian' for parents to mistreat kids is wrong in my opinion, To each their own |