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This is a case of "Person dey inside river, soap dey enter him eye".

Imagine there is a water pump installed in that jetty for fire fighting purposes.

AroOkigbo:
You started school late?

Nope, went to Catholic private schools.

Truthvalue41:
Let us go through the logics of what you are saying:

1) your claim: a Benin newspaper reported that Agbor invaded Benin
2) your claim: the name used was Igbo, not agbor.

Analysing the logics of your statements:

1) If Agbor (which is a part of Benin) invaded Benin (whatever sense this makes) a the newspaper reported it, wouldn't that mean that it happened recently ? Or does Benin have newspapers which are several hundred years old ?

2) now your taking of liberty to change "Igbo" to "agbor" looks like a desperate move and it is completely silly.

3) I think you are confusing the Nigerian civil war with something else. So if you read anything of an Igbo invasion in a news paper then it is referring to the biafrans, not Agbor.

4) you have the mind of a toddler.

1. Agbor at no time was ever under Benin.
2. I know it was Agbor for the singular fact that only Agbor was enough to put Benin under control.
3. I am not talking about the Civil War. Benin were too cowardly to fight during the civil war, let alone attack Igbos to warrant a counter attack from Igbos (Agbor in this case).
4. Thanks. Even Christ said the Kingdom of God belongs to Children.


Meanwhile, go and ask your Oba. Agbor occupied Benin Kingdom militarily in the past and this my brother is a true history.

phemmylink:
My beautiful wife who is one of the beneficiaries of Batch C NPOWER teach. She told.me they gathered together and told her they have a letter for her.

What's your say?

Your wife has a lot of work to do. She can start by teaching them good grammar. Even as a primary 1 pupil, I already knew how to speak and write good grammar.

Truthvalue41:
Please stop confusing your hallucinations caused by your generator fumes with reality. Agbor was a part of Benin, a part of Benin doesn't invade Benin. In other words Agbor is Benin !

Also you need to learn English and especially the word "claim", you also need to learn some logics.

Agbor invaded and occupied Benin kingdom.in that History I read in your Benin newspaper,it was actually noted as "Igbo" not Agbor,but I know it was Agbor in particular because they were the ones the Benin were always at war with. This happened during one of those wars with Agbor and the exact terminology they used in that Article was "Counter-attack".

Truthvalue41:
Do you care to prove your claim ?
At this stage, you are just an other crazy nairalander spewing complete rubbish.

I repeat: Agbor was part of Benin.

Below is the Obi of Agbor in the 1930's.

It is not a claim. I have read that history from Benin dailies while schooling in Edo state. There was a time Agbor invaded and Occupied Benin Kingdom. Go and ask your Oba, he will know that history.

Truthvalue41:
Agbor was part of Benin, even the current Agbor monarch owes his ascension to the fatherly role of the Oba of Benin.
Onitsha was also part of Benin.
The Oba of Benin never told any Portuguese about NRI village.
You seem to be learning how to lie like a yoruba.

Agbor that invaded Benin kindom and occupied Benin Kingdom for years is the same people that were supposedly "under Benin" right?

Dartilo:
One thing is fact Bro,Benin was on his own level in ancient time in these past of the world...No matter how history is distorted it can't be changed....As far as Ado Ekiti was under Benin,way into Lagos......
Same to the east of Onitsha...Even Igala fell to the power of the Edo....it was called bight of Benin because although Benin in the interior but was controlling those area greatly.....

Benin should be a Pride to southern Nigeria No doubt

Ordinary Agbor was never under Benin, let alone Onitsha. Even Benin Oba told the Portuguese that Nri Kingdom in the east was the greatest kingdom around there.

michelz:
Well, it is their problem. Some few years ago on this forum, they both ganged up against Igbos. They were everywhere postulating and grandstanding against Igbos in the name of " our oyel" and" niger delta".
Now, they are claiming almost everywhere in Niger Delta. Not my business.

Ever since their Niger-Delta Republic failed with the Advent of Ibom Republic, Ijaw has gone nuclear, claiming other people, their lands and their history ear and dear.

Ndimkpurummiri:
Igbo supposed to hate Gowon more than Buhari but reverse is the case

Gowon was just the smallie they put in the seat to form Head of state.

Emergingnation1:
Lol ! Back by British and Russia to fought Igbo....... IF the whole country range against SW and back by two war powers the way they did against the braved Igbo's, Afonja will not survive for 3 months

3 months? Afonja that will even join the rest of the country and fight the remaining Afonja.

ObiOfOnitcha:
See ebora ewu himself during the war in the center of Igbo land, aba where Igbo Catholics are, wrapped in batik in the middle of the war catching cruise

Tell him to turn around, let's see the bullet holes in his yansh.

Anonymous15:
BIG FOOL.
they didn't mention ijaw because the whites knew them as brass men, and continued to call them brass men because no other white man good was desired more than brass pan.

I will ignore you.

Oga, Jos-men were the ones living in their boats and using piracy to feed themselves. This Jos-men strategy of claiming people as a way of having foothold on land will not be tolerated. Ijaw no get sense Lai Lai, they are claiming Igbo tribes as well? What rubbish!

Anonymous15:
and again, on the pirate thing, the ijo ethnic groups has 51 clans like I have been singing.
mbiama were the notorious pirates.
because the Englishmen called them the Jo men doesn't mean the entire ijoh clan were pirates. even the bille's and ijaw clan were pirates too and they plundered other clans in ijo too, for instance king jike of bille plundered the trading fleets of his maternal cousin king ikata (mingi the II) in about the year 1787, king ikata overlooked but his sister was said to push him to war, and there was a bloody war which ensured and king ikata himself shot his Dane gun and blinded his cousin king jike.
you see? an ijaw clan put and end to the piracy of another ijaw clan.
when it comes to piracy, it was few clans who partook in it, not all.

Did you miss the part where it was stated these Jos-men lived exclusively on their boats? How did you guys go from boat dwelling and piracy to "owing" all the lands in the coast? No be juju be that?

Anonymous15:
so if they bought Spears from the Aros, how did that mean the Aro god rulled them?
I said the ijoh's were rarely slaves, the ijoh's were broker. ijoh's were sold only when Igbo slaves weren't forth coming, so when the chiefs or Kings or priests needed money or white men items, they can sell their enemies or prisoners of war or they set up less important ijoh people for kidnap and sale, I made mention of it nigga, but the ijoh's were not known to be slaves, they were the broker, I repeat, ijoh's were only sold when Igbo slaves weren't forthcoming and when a big chief lacks money, he can send his boys to kidnap less important folks to sell or raid an enemy war canoe and seize some men, slaughter many at an island called isikara to obtain favor from the water spirits and sell the remaining to the white men as slaves but it was rare.
that only happens WHEN THE SLAVE IMPORT LINE IS DRY.
I mentioned this nigga.

Ijaws were useless even as freemen, let alone slaves. It has nothing to do with their prowess. No one wants to feed lazy grown up drunks.

Anonymous15:
Don't be deluded, Epie is descended from ijo.
just as nsukka is of ERI
they do not speak the same language, but it is what it is.
it is normal for people to claim being autonomous or authoctonous but ijo has 51 clans/tribes under it. because of the pride of the average ijaw man some tribes are trying to cut ties with him, even some of my fellow Nembeians claim they are NEMBEIANS and not ijaw, but I'll always ask, are you not still of your father even though you're grown and independent?
I am a Nembe man and I am telling you Nembe is a clan under ijaw, same as Epie, tuomo, buseni, tarakiri, agudama, akassa and the entire 51 tribes.
the language may not be exactly ijaw (ofcourse it isn't expected) as sub tribes usually have their corrupted lingua.

NSUKKA and arondiziogu are descendants of ERI but do they speak the same ERI language?
dude I didn't mention IYC. I am not a political person.
visit Nigerian archive, and you will see that the ijaws are the 4th largest ethnic group.

Please, who made Nembe a tribe "under" Ijaw? When did this happen? Even almighty Benin "Empire" could not get past the very first Igbo group next to them - Agbor, it is drunken fishermen with canoe, not even warships that will be forming empire on Igbo waters?

Anonymous15:
nigga stop being deluded, even the Igbo people refer to us as mba'mmiri, stop being stupid.
the Opobo, during the slave trade days, they had so many Igbo people who outnumbered them and became influential, these Igbo people didn't stop speaking their language and they covered the Opobo's. this was how they lost their language.
Jaja of opobo was an Igbo slave who was bought by an ijaw-opobo man. but has he grew wealthy and influential, the igbos grew with him and he subsequently became the ruler of opobo.

Nembe since time immemorial has been Nembe.
it is made of of 6 ancient clans (kalabiga ma biri, obolo'amabiri, opubigamabiri, onyo ama biri, Oro ama biri, and olodio ama biri) long long long long ago during the days they communed with mermaids.
nigga you can't be stupid.
all this ancient settlements are absolved into Nembe as you know it, Oro ama biri is the only existing clan from the old ancient Nembe long when Kings didn't rule, but halfmen half spirits.

and back to the ethnic group size thingy (hausa Fulani 29percent, Yoruba 21% ibo 18% IJAW 10%, KANURI 4% ibibio 3.5.
Google it, do not be unfortunate nigga, don't ever come and claim my ancient kingdom to your ethnic group nigga.
don't you dare.

So of we bring those guys in those canoe and interview them, they will be speaking this rubbish language you have been using to spam this thread abi?

Anonymous15:
ijaw (ijo) was the progenitor of the Ijaw people.
he had Gbaran his first son, Nembe, his second and other children who went on the form the tribes under ijaw. none of them speak ijaw but little can be heard when they converse because of the similarity.
I use to hear about your land grabbing etc, but I never knew it would reach my own Nembe. and you come craze talk say we sail from orlu and you want to make it linked to Oru...you must be daft. Oru is not a place in Nembe but a word. Oru means "juju"
yagbia' e no togubelemo' o... alendi' o.

This one just manufacture history. Choi.

What Ijaw cannot claim does not exist. -- Malawian 2021.

iruocious:
The Ibo slaves weren't as influential as their sellers thought. Even their children won't be happy to associate with the sellers after selling off their forefathers for paltry sums.
The Nembe people do not speak Ibo or Igbo or whatever confused name you choose, and the entire world knows, not just you. The dialect is simply referred to as Nembe.
Yeri ama ongu sun eki nimi tin. Please interpret the above in Igbo as you have said.

Stop speaking Ijaw and trying to pass it off as Nembe indigenous language which is obviously an Igbo dialect. There is a reason there is no single Language in all of the Niger-Delta that is mutually intelligible to Ijaw language. You Ijaw are foreigners imported into the Niger-Delta by the British and as such, your language is not gelling with the surrounding languages.

iruocious:
Stop spreading falsehood. You see those war canoes on display, in the olden days, they were normally filled to the brim with slaves (mostly ibos) for one to earn a chieftaincy title.

Everywhere na una get am. Claim relationship.

Even almighty British found it hard to enslave Igbos, it is small small Ijaw that Igbos will willingly be slaves to.

Ijaw should try and be lying small small. No history book even mentioned Ijaw in the Niger-Delta back in those days of Portuguese trade and all, let alone Ijaw being slave masters to Igbo slaves.

Nembe are Igbo people and will remain so.

WibusJaga:


Imagine if all Nigeria's oil deposits were in the North. Very sure all those saying Nigeria's Unity is not negotiable would have been singing a different song.

If the oil and resources were in the North, the British would have made the South Leaders of Nigeria. There is nothing special or manly about Fulani. Na British gun and British logistics Dem get.

hollah123:
guy we ain't talking palm oil here,we are talking south south crude oil which is part of Nigeria.

U people brought d biafra or war mantra with the mindset tgat we will chicken out but here we are bringing d war to u

I thought the oil belongs to you other Nigerians. You are going to use other people's resources to wage war on them? Bandits and brigands. Good thing is Oil or not will be immaterial if a world power decides to arm Igbo people. We will chase you down to oshogbo and chase you all out of Nigeria. Fighting men dey, na tools we no get. Dey there dey form Superman. If una accept make we fight am out with just cutlass and shield alone, make we enter battle field already.

Oil from the east abi? Let's see who will loan you war weapons this time. Igbos want to go, your response is to levy war on them. What a parasite!

hollah123:
compare d percentage of northerners in d east to easterners in d north b4 u start threatening northerner with death.

I bet u if igbo kill one northerner, 20 igbos will die in d north

N as regards igbo n northerner war in lagos,igbos will lose out again cos yorubas are tired of your excesses already n they will deal with u mercilessly, the Lagos u burnt down during endsars is still fresh in our memories.

U will lose n nothin will happen, after Rwanda civil war do u realise d country is still existing n besides u place more value on international bodies.

Do u care to know that they are politicians too?
What have they done to war thorn countries in Africa?
If war breaks out,the first thing they will think about is business,how to sell weapons, how to steal your resources n how u will bribe their media to under report your atrocities.

As regards d 3

Nigeria has finances to purchase ammunitions easily n they will block every ammunition route to southeast

Nigeria will use oil as collateral to get things done n also silence their media to under report things.

If u think war don't forget Nigeria has upper hand than u in all aspect

If they tell you people to come together and exile Igbo from Nigeria federation like Malaysia did to Singapore, you will not gree. I wonder who is the reason you can't do that and solve your problems once and for all.

Ekpa might turn out to be Joshua. Honestly, the parallels in all this is outstanding. Moses (MNK) did most of the work, but may not see the promised land. Joshua (Military guy) just like Ekpa was a military guy, might be the one to lead Igbos into BIAFRA. One thing I know for sure, the FG has compromised DOS. The singular fact Kanu was in their custody in Kenya for over a week without the DOS raising the Alarm says it all.
The good thing about Igbos, we can easily move out allegiance to Simon Ekpa if Kanu is no longer able to lead.

Biafra is out destination, the vehicle or driver is irrelevant for now.

azraeljaheel:
i swear! No sure game anywhere! Am just so confused!!!

Two times now I have bet on Nigeria to win, they had either drawn or lost. Nigeria will impoverish you.

AlexBells:
What kind of question is that, don't they need clothes, machines, other equipment, drugs, in fact 70% of the things we use in Nigeria is imported don't you know once Nigeria divides to get to Onitsha they may need passport, same as Aba and Lagos, all those truck drivers would not be moving in and out freely again like before.

You say technically they are not landlocked, that's true but who understands technicality that needs technicality to be technical

They can get most of those things even faster with freight planes like Rwanda does. I am saying they don't really need sea access as a matter of life and death, since they are not predominantly traders. Moreover, they can always buy whatever they needed to buy from BIAFRA. Their issue is not that they want to survive, it is that they want to subjugate and disposses others of their land just to graze cattle.

Are those drugs produced in Igboland or are they imported and sold there? What then is the NDLEA doing? I saw a video of someone who took the Mkpru Mmiri. SMH

AlexBells:
The River Niger that is not navigable all through the year from any place above Kogi, and besides that would be an inland water of Igboland, would they want to just limit it to peaceful passage, are they going to be our allies or we would check every of their consignment to check if it is peaceful or not and what volume of shipping can the river Niger actually carry Beyond Kogi,

This is the major concern there are some time of the year that the River Niger is not navigable northward but still even if we say they have access to the sea via the Niger are they going to be in friendly terms with the us Igbos cause from Igboland there are many chanel through the Niger Delta

I am just saying technically they are not landlocked. What exactly are the North selling or buying to require sea access?

AlexBells:
I don't also expect the West to stay if we the East must leave cause then it could be perpetual slavery, sorry if I didn't say what you expect to hear but that's the real situation let's learn to adapt and survive or prepare for a real brutal war, far more costly than the first, after the war, it is not even certain that the South would win cause when we see freedom the world see humanitarian disaster in Northern Nigeria if they are separated from the South

North was never landlocked. The River Niger passed through their land.

Christistruth00:
This was the very reasons that Ojukwus Biafra had such a devastating defeat that some people are still

wailing it more than 50 years later

Long Throat for other people’s ancestral homes even Benin Sapele Warri and Western Region was not left

out

Just go and read the letter he Wrote to Col Banjo at Ore,

That was when Col Banjo realised Ojukwu was busy doing an Afonja on him and Banjo being from an

Ijebu Royal Family immediately understood the Consequences

Ojukwu wanted to be Emperor of all Southern Nigeria

Well, if na you go tell those Ijaw cultist we'll make Dem for hear. They should not be found in any of those places more than 24 hours after Nigeria breaks. I don't think there is any other way to tell them this so they can understand. I have told them to build their canoe or learn how to do endurance swimming.

Mashgash:
You're the dumbest person I ever interacted with on NL.

I told you I DON'T PRACTICE ANY STUPID RELIGION.

Check my past comments. You can also check my posts and profile.

The energy you have used in defense of Islam says otherwise. Meanwhile, check your comment I mentioned. You are a Muslim. And like you said, your choice. I leave it to you. No need insulting someone over a religion you say you are not practicing.