₦airaland Forum

Sapiosexuality:
Plato? The Republic? Are you sure you are not misrepresenting what that book talked about? The Republic was hundred percent against Democracy. Let me shock you. What Socrates proposed in the Republic was wrong–Monarchical Fascism. That's off this discussion.

You are missing the point. Ours is a democracy and as along as it is, what is legally binding is what is sound. If we are to go by those morals about Philosopher-King you are trying to switch to, the first question will be if your current President with all his poor utterances and actions qualifies as one. Then even your moral prism is called to question.

The Republic was by Plato even though it is represented as a Socratic dialogue. Ultimately, Socrates' criticism of Athenian democracy is a confirmation of our stand that people like CB do not qualify for leadership in a democracy, the conclusion of the dialogue being that a "just city has
philosophers as rulers"
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Buhari's ability for truthfulness and philosophic mien has been his only asset with the masses. You won't catch him giving out inducements for him to be elected. He was despised by those who don't look beyond their nose even in the first outing, but the people who seek the truth always come to the realization that he has their interests as paramount. For that reason, his leadership is principled, enduring and not like the one of situational ethicists, the ones Socrates condemned as Athenian 'democrats.' Just ask yourself why Buhari's support base is always with him, unlike GEJ, wh complained of being abandoned and on the other hand his group are complaining of being abandoned by him.

Sapiosexuality:
So is being overdramatic undemocratic and deserving of Jungle Justice?

Don't hinge all your hopes on democracy or it becomes your god. In The Republic, Plato outlined those who are qualified for leadership. They are what he called philosopher kings or aspiring philosophers. A leader must PHILOSOPHIZE. So, the first and most important prerequisite is wisdom, to be wise, and that does not include playing to the gallery or being overdramatic. It is foolishness, a facade, a simulation with a motive to deceive. It is unbecoming of a leader, whose main accessory is thinking. What we're having as a democracy these days is a caricature of the real. It is bestial, pedestrian and emotional. It is poverty of philosophy (wisdom) when you have unprincipled vagabond misleading the people in the name of democracy. How can the cross dressing, punk looking CB be an advocate of democracy as Plato defined it. Mind you, you were lacing your arguments with morality. I'll never be an advocate of leadership of waywards - gays, drug addicts, kidnappers, and the criminally minded, as is happening in America, where you have a male governor married to a male partner.
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This version of democracy, of the morally depraved you and CB want to push is not my type. I don't restrict my options to what you call 'democracy.'
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For Forms of Government let fools contest; whatever is best administered is best." – Alexander Pope

lordkush:
nah Dulladinho nor get namesake

GEJ people aren't creative. Dullarfinjo, clueless, ineffectual, ogogoro master, etc. all na him name.

Sapiosexuality:
How is situational ethics wrong in a democracy? Isn't Democracy about the legal correctness of issues?

And as the police said, CB is overdramatic. He acted for the camera. He's doing it for political correctness and all is for show up.

lordkush:
yes

operation finish the dullard and send his bones back to nigeria


the tin dey pain u?

Dullard is GEJ's name.

prodigy24:
Product of incest spotted. Op you forgot to add vvvf..

Like that Igboman Matthew Emeaguboro who impregnated his 13-year old daughter // http://sunnewsonline.com/father-from-hell-impregnates-13-year-old-daughter/

Sapiosexuality:
Your statement is off. The question is about the morality of Jungle Justice. Pointing at other cases of stupidity by elected officials is a different matter. Condemn jungle justice when you see it. That's the matter here. Anyone can choose whenever they deem fit to protest against evil, timing doesn't justify evil.

You're advocating situational ethics, which is not good enough. Those who are selective in their treatment of events must have their motives questioned, and that's what is being done. You can't give what you don't have. What are your antecedents? What is your credibility? It's hard to question Oby or Falana, if they're the ones at the vanguard of this.
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As for what you call jungle justice - I can't condemn the state. It has the right to disrupt, arrest and even prosecute those it sees as breaching the peace. I am not condemning CB either. It's his motive that's not clear to me. You say Return r Resign: Return against medical advice and if it's Resigning on what basis? On what authority are you and CB basing your arguments. Is it legal (constitutional), medical or on sentiments?

Ok oo! You want to sit out (literally) at below 12°C.

Incest for your Igboland not North.

Sapiosexuality:
Are you with these comments supporting Jungle Justice? Are you also supporting the abuse of the right to protest? A yes or no will do.

I am by that statement supporting common sense. But still it's a matter of believe. If by all means CB believes that Buhari is not good for Nigeria, he has every reason to protest. I don't share his views, so I won't see it his way. And again, as I pointed out, there are cases like Buhari's and none of you or CB was seen demanding those should resign.

dlondonbadboy:
I always tell you you don't deserve the name MalcolmX. So because he didn't protest then so he doesn't have any right to protest now?
Aunty oby protested then, did you see how she was humiliated when she attempted to protest under this 'regime'?

Do you know even if Buhari sends 2years outside this country, he would still not have broken any law? And people, you people would still hail him? You are not doing Buhari or Nigeria any good by supporting Buharis continued absense from this country. We must tell ourselves the truth.

Is Buhari less human than these?
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The former PDP Governor of Enugu, Sullivan Chime was away in the UK for over five months on a medical leave treating an undisclosed ailment. But you are now calling for president Buhari to resign because he's in the same UK treating an undisclosed ailment.
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The former Taraba State Governor, Suntai who survived a self flown airplane crash, and was taken abroad, brought back and was being wheeled around Government House to finish his tenure, is different from Buhari right?
And it was just okay then because your 'hero' was president.
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Show me what you did or wrote in respect of a similar case involving these Nigerians, if at all you're arguing on principles.

dlondonbadboy:
He has not failed..You have failed.

The same way you lot attacked 2face. You support oppression because of crumbs you get from your ogas table..continue!

Well, Charly not I failed. What we're doing is juxtaposing to see things in focus. We saw how the vaults of the Nigerian treasury were opened to one woman, with her sons flying in private jets, spraying dollars on foreign girls without you or Charly saying anything. That time your mumu never do, because none of you can foresee that disasters always await those who spend above their means.

Dlordsamurai:
well i get your point, but i believe the police are to be blame for the attack, Because in a develop country, the police makes sure that peace and smooth protest is ensured in the wake of any protest. "the police should have assign patrol teams to monitor them incase of any attack or violence.

Which Kain police? The police in Nigeria are with whoever is at the helm. Wasn't he teargassed by the police at different location in the same Abuja? 2Face's mum knows more about Nigerian politics than Charly Boy. She advised her son to stay with his music - to leave politics to politicians. The only place Charly would have had a free and peaceful protest in the whole of Nigeria is Lagos, because of its liberal and urbane nature. Even FFK is more sensible in that regard. He prefers to do his own 'protests' - abusing everybody - from the comfort of his room with the added benefit of Chinwedu's beautiful eyes by his side.

dlondonbadboy:
Asking Buhari the man they voted for to resume or resign translates to abusing him? How do you people even think? Which kind of people are these ones?

Well it may not necessarily mean that. But Charly Boy has failed, you try it.

Dlordsamurai:
But onitsha is in amambra, which is south south and the last time i check, amambra is not even 100% support of biafra, so whats your point?

My point is don't go to a market in SE and protest or be misperceived as abusing Ojukwu or the lesser god like Nnamdi. Even the girlish look of Charley is enough to draw a crowd to him and be mistaken as a homo in that environment; and you know what that means. Just use a little sense in whatever you're doing unless your name is Mr. Sorry.

Sapiosexuality:
You have a point but did you read the article to understand the point it is trying to convey? When did it become unconstitutional and warrant jungle justice for a person to protest against whatever thing, no matter how silly, he feels is worth protesting for? Try to read the op.

It's not unconstitutional to protest! but I won't do it in a market in Onitsha abusing Ojukwu or the iPOB master (Nnamdi).

chernest2002:
is it today that he violated the conditions? Is it not until arewa gave Fg ten days to arrest him? Bro.arewa owns Nigeria .

Fact is, he has breached an agreement he reached with a constituted authority that may lead to the revocation of the bail or his arrest.

Charles Kaye Okoye wrote:

Nigeria has been importing petroleum products for many years now despite being a major oil producer!
. . . U no protest!

For decades, all the nations refineries remained dead. Despite the humongous funds pumped into their rehabilitation, they remained dead as the funds ended in party men's pockets.
. . . U no protest!

The entire roads in the nation were death traps, despite funds disbursed yearly for rehabilitation. Still nothing! Monies ended up in few individuals' deep pocket.
. . . No protest!

N11trn wasted in power sector rehabilitation, even as the nation progressively sank into deeper darkness. Monies gone down the usual route!
. . . Oga no protest!

Oga hear say only madam conner money wey fit give this nation 10 world-class hospitals!
. . . Oga bone! No protest!

We all grew up meeting tap water dotting our streets, provided and serviced by water board. But we watched as these progressively went into extinction, despite huge budgetary allocation to water board every year.
. . . E no reach to protest!

We are inundated with Halliburton scandal, Siemens scandal, Malabu Oil scandal. NNPC missing $20bn.
. . . Dem no reach to protest!

Workers are owed many months despite prompt disbursement of monthly allocations, bailout funds, Paris Club refunds. Governors use the funds to build private hotels, while workers and their children starve.
. . . We no need to protest!

The only thing worth protesting is an ill president's 'long' absence on medical leave, despite fulfilling all constitutional requirements.

Bros, this nation belongs to us all. In what is clearly a scramble for the soul of this nation, I and millions of other well-meaning Nigerians that staged a bloodless revolution in 2015 to take back our nation, have taken our stand. We stand with Buhari! We stand with better Nigeria! We stand with change!

Months to the 2015 presidential election, Doyin Okupe could not help but acknowledge that Nigerians had rallied round Buhari with "Sai Baba" renting the air. Today, that same crowd is still there.

Charly Boy can go on to build a house in Fountain square, but until he beams his mirror on our self-serving NASS and money-for-judgement judiciary, Charles Oputa is completely on his own.

chernest2002:
Because arewa have demanded that he be re arrested.

Don't bring anything Arewa here. Kanu is given bail on conditions, and he agreed to all those conditions. Is it now Arewa that's violating all those conditions he agreed to or what?

snoopylinus:
afon.....

You got it all wrong baby. When will you have your Ichi so that you become Nze na Ozo?

Ok oo! Mr liberalsinnerz, It is totally wrong to debase cultures that aren't your own, worse for practices that are on the decline.
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I have for your information found that Igbo people do have facial scarifications (Ichi). In fact, it's regarded as a sign of nobility in some Igbo circles and can't be worn by commoners.
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"Ichi was facial ritual scarification worn by mainly men of the Igbo people of Nigeria . The scarification indicated that the wearer had passed through initial initiation into the highest society Nze na Ozo, thus marking the wearer as nobility. The scarification was found among men in the Awka-Nri areas and among a few women in the Awgwu and Nkanu areas. Its wearers were authorized to perform ritual cleansing of abominations and to confer titles on people. People with facial marks were regarded as Nri men and were less likely to be taken as slaves. Other parts of Igbo land may have started wearing Ichi as a result of this. There are two styles; the Nri style worn in the Awka-Nri areas, and the Agbaja style worn in the Awgwu and Nkanu areas."
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Others can do what you're doing, to make you have a rethink on how bestial you've become. I think this method of juxtaposing what you're accusing others with similar cultural issues should be used to counter you, anytime you use a declining practice to denigrate others.
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https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Igbo_ichi_marks.jpg

jasawa:
. hmmmm I wonder how you guys are defining the North ? when it comes to religion you cap out your imaginary middle belt out of the north, again when its come for your so called agitation you still called them middle belt. But when it is time for you to cry about marginalization against you (Ipob) they are all North

And for the South, he was dividing it into Lagos, SW, SE and SS.

This is why they call this Reno a fraudster. The story is just an advertising and marketing strategy to sell that unknown and useless book. Reno should find other means to settle his publishers or they seize his passport and send him to jail. That's why he invented this story to appeal to some gullible Nigerians to part with their hard earned money.

Bestselling author for where, Nigeria or Cameroon?

billante:
If uptill now you still don't understand the context Jonathan made that statement then reality still haven't done on you

Maybe I didn't understand that, but I perfectly understood Jonathan at Enugu campaign rally saying, "How much did Jim Nwobodo 'stole'? Money not up to the price of Peugeot car, but Buhari sent him to prison. Is that good enough?"

gbosaa:
I ask again, what's wrong with a bigot sharing ideas on how to curb bigotry??

If Evans were to hold a conference or seminar on "Solving Kidnapping in Nigeria", won't you attend or at least listen to him?

Attend and you get kidnapped. I won't attend. I'd rather they shot him.

Mekus68:
You mean your hero Buhari?

Yeah, Buhari wasn't having a dropping shoulders at Kanu's age.

Yeligray:
very true, he should nt just apologise to Gej but he should also apologise to us for wrong governing and failure

Not only that, he should also give Jonathan national honours for trying to mask his government's legendary corruption by saying that "Stealing is not corruption."

ZKOSOSO:
Trust FKK anytime.....!!

Osunbande needs to swallow some Lion heart...!!

How can u post Kogi Minister (igala Christian)to Labour ministry where nothing is happening but posted Gombe Minister (Fulani Muslim) to juicy Ministry of Power, Works, and Housing. Is this not Buhari style of core Northern Agenda..??

Pls make me a minister, even if it's the Minister of Firewood or Charcoal.
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BTW, whether Gombe or Kogi, Christian or Muslim, they're all northerners and have no place to call home but the North.
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Why not become FFK and try to bring disunity in the North.

Ojiofor:
Was there anything like Nigeria in 1500 AD olodo?

The lands and peoples that is Nigeria existed even then bearing different natives names. It may have been named Nigeria by the British but those places have their cultures and histories pre-colonization.