₦airaland Forum

itchie:
I don't get you. You disagree with what exactly?

I disagree with you trying to 'normalize' the insults in Nairaland. Even Newton said: "To every action, there's equal and opposite reaction." When there's one force, there's always another force or several forces to balance it.

Thewrath:
Who challenged them when fasola deported Igbos to onitsha?
Lagos was a former capital,simply because it's located in SW does not give Yorubas right to monopolize it's advantages,if you think otherwise,ask sanusi who said they need Lagos more than ss!

Fashola was deporting all Nigerians who were deemed to be problems to Lagos as a state policy. He has severally deported Yorubas and Northerners before what you referenced. It was only when he touched Easterners that they started calling on the 'illegality' of the act. It was not to them illegal when theirs were not affected. As for Sanusi, what makes you think he's not right, or any sensible person will disagree with him?

itchie:
Let's assume what you wrote above is true(which I doubt) then my question is If someone behaves in an uncivilized manner towards you and you also decide to respond in an uncivilized manner towards him, then what is the difference between the two of you? I was merely trying to point out the hypocrisy in the op's question. The insults fly both ways here on nairaland but he chose to turn a blind eye on the insults of those against Biafra while focusing on the ones from those supporters of Biafra. You just buttressed my point in your own way. The use of derogatory language is not a "Biafra supporters " like the op was trying to paint it, it's a general problem here on nairaland

No I disagree. Those with siege mentality always look outside for the cause of their problems. They always have an external factor to blame. It's either the North or the Yoruba. I remember a wise saying somewhere that when more than three call you out, you better look inside for a remedy to the issue.

Thewrath:
Didn't the Yorubas cheer the killing of unarmed protesters?
Didn't Oba of Lagos threaten to drown Igbos in Lagos?

You expect you'll call Lagos a 'No man's land,' and dabble into local politics, to the extent of challenging the natives and go unchallenged. It definitely will look like an insult to the natives and they'll respond in like.

itchie:
Because those who make negative comments about Biafra also use insulting and derogatory language against people supporting biafra. If you have been following Biafra threads on nairaland, I am sure you would have become familiar with words like biafrauds, liepods, cownu, land of potopoto, Igbo to mention but a few. So don't only observe the wrongs of the Biafra supporters also see that of those against them

Nobody abuses back until somebody initiates something somewhere. Kanu starts abusing Nigeria and Nigerians and sure (very natural) he'll get a dose back, even more than he bargained. All those negatives you mentioned are responses to what was started by Kanu-types. I remember vividly the words Igbo and Osu were started as a response to Kanu children calling Yorubas Afonja.
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Take it bro: It's like some people can't do without abusing whoever opposes them.

So Mr. Biafran, Hausa/Fulani are 31 million, Igbo 34 million and Yoruba 40 million?

(2) ATTA; moved to upward North and established a place known as "IGALA Kingdom " and that is why their overall KING is known as "Atta of IGALA" in Kogi state.
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Waow!!! Tell this story to Nnamdi, and Kogi will be all yours.

(2) ATTA; moved to upward North and established a place known as "IGALA Kingdom " and that is why their overall KING is known as "Atta of IGALA" in Kogi state. // Waow!!! Tell this story to Nnamdi, and Kogi will be all yours.

And they'll tell me Jonathan is not Recession.

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Academia don suffer for Yoruba hand.

The Daft OP does not know the difference between Aborigines and Indigenous.

He described Aborigines and then applied the completely different term of Indigenous.

This is y IPOB will continue to punish Nigeria intellectually, becos their Abu Zaria degree and Oluwole degree cannot withstand our University of London and Harvard degrees.

Degree pass degree.

Or rather, you don't know that Aborigines are indigenous people.

The Indigenous Peoples of Africa
1. The Ogoni: Nigeria
2. The Tuareg: Sahara

kutchs:
I read this 'interesting' article carefully hoping to see your definition of the word indigenous buty couldn't. Do you care to explain why Biafra doesn't qualify to be described as such?

Pls read carefully where it is stated that:

The indigenous peoples "are mostly subjugated, threatened, and with subsistent, underdeveloped economies. They usually are protected and cared for by national and international organizations because of their vulnerabilities. In fact, this has to be, because they may face extinction if left to their own resources."
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Can you with all honesty include the Igbo in this group?

paschu:
A fake MalcomX jihadist presumes he too has an opinion on igbo identity.

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Don't give a hoot 'bout Igbo identity, but to state unequivocally what you cannot dispute. 'I'POB mischievously used the term in question to gain support of international community, and so far, apart from the local noise, he's not been successful.

The Indigenous People of Africa 1. The San (Bushmen): Kalahari 2. The Ogiek: Kenya

The Indigenous People of Africa
1. The Pygmy: central Africa
2. The Masai: Kenya

ezeagu:
I wasn't aware that IPOB was saying they aren't indigenous.

Not aware!!!! Why would you be mischievous just because Kanu is?

BiafraBushBoy:
Let me profile the Op.

Name: Ratak Awolowo

STATE OF ORIGIN: OLD OYO

State of residence: Ogbomosho IDP Camp

POPULAR CHANT: "We South South People"

Occupation: Jobless

Biggest Fear: Actualization of Biafra

Reason: Unity Beggars.

My Name is Bush, and I work with the BIA (Biafra Intelligent Agency)

You are as wrong as the 'I' in 'I'POB. It's with no wonder that such low level intelligence was what led to KANU being nabbed in a hotel room, with an unidentified woman.

ezeagu:
You're using indigenous as the international law, however by definition of indigenous, meaning nobody there before or in any recent time, the term applies to Igbo people

Then what makes the Yoruba, Hausa, Igbira, Idoma, Kanuri, etc. not being indigenous?

Arda1000:
The igbos have never claimed to be indigenous,ipob or any other pro biafra group can use any name they like

It's nothing but fraud and insensitivity for Kanu or any other not being an "indigenous" person to have used the plight of downtrodden people for their political ambitions.

Indigenous People 1. The Nenets: Russia 2. The Aborigines: Australia

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The right to self-determination is a right recognized by natural law and nearly all international conventions and entities. But it is not right for certain groups to lay claim to what they're not in order to exercise this mandate. The 'Indigenous' People of Biafra ('I'POB) is the worst case in this misapplication.
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Some would say being indigenous means being native to a place. But this is being literal, and by this definition, all tribes in Nigeria, or anywhere else could lay claim to being indigenous people. The Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB), as the choice of words show has clearly avoided this hole as against Nnamdi Kanu's 'I'ndigenous' People of Biafra ('I'POB).
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It is very insensitive to the suffering of the indigenous people of the world for the Biafrans (or any Igbo) to use their plights to secure their political ambitions. In fact, it is very wicked and fraudulent The Biafrans are not, and have not been classified under any international conventions or by the indigenous peoples of the world as "indigenous people."
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The Biafrans therefore, and by extension any Igbo, cannot lay claim to being "indigenous people." The indigenous people will be such like the Pygmies of central Africa; the Australian Aborigines; the Yanomami and other tribes of the Brazilian Amazon; the Chactows, the Cherokees, Tomahawks, the Mohicans, the Nebraskans, the Idahoans, the Sioux and all other native American Indians. They are mostly subjugated, threatened, and with subsistent, underdeveloped economies. They usually are protected and cared for by national and international organizations because of their vulnerabilities. In fact, this has to be, because they may face extinction if left to their own resources. It is selfishness and fraudulent for the Igbo, with well-developed economies (at least by Third World standards) to lay claims to this status. It is a mockery and insensitivity of the highest order for the Nigerian Igbo to even aspire to such. The only people in Nigeria that come close to such are the Ogonis, or any other to be discovered whose economy will be just about that of hunting and gathering.
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Below is a list of Indigenous Peoples of Africa, as compiled by reputable researchers and institutions. The Igbos are not there, and it is clear fraud to appropriate the term.
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Acholi: Uganda
Afar: Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia
Agaw: Ethiopia
Akisho: Ethiopia
Anuak: Ethiopia
Beja: Eritrea
Berta: Ethiopia
Bilen: Eritrea
Borana: Ethiopia
Daasanach: Ethiopia
Alur: Uganda
Ambo: Zambia
Ankole: Uganda
Antalote: Comoros
Aushi: Zambia
Aweer: Kenya
Babongo: Gabon
Baganda: Uganda
Bahima/Ankole: Uganda, Rwanda
Bagisu: Uganda
Bagwere: Uganda
Bakiga: Uganda
Bakonjo: Uganda
Basoga: Uganda
Batoro: Uganda
Bemba: Zambia
Betsileo: Madagascar
Bisa: Zambia
Bunyoro: Uganda
Cafre: Comoros
Chagga: Tanzania
Chewa: Malawi
Chikunda: Zambia
Chokwe: Mozambique, Zambia
Chopi: Mozambique
Cishinga: Zambia
Gova: Zambia
Hadzabe: Tanzania
Haya: Tanzania
Hehe: Tanzania
Hutu: Burundi, Rwanda
Ila: Zambia
Inamwanga: Zambia
Iteso: Uganda
Iwa: Zambia
Jopadhola: Uganda
Kabende: Zambia
Kalenjin: Kenya
Kamba: Kenya
Kaonde: Zambia
Karamojong: Uganda
Kikuyu: Kenya
Kisii: Kenya
Kosa: Zambia
Kunda: Zambia
Kwandi: Zambia
Kwandu: Zambia
Kwangwa: Zambia
Lala: Zambia
Lamba: Zambia
Lango: Uganda
Lenje: Zambia
Leya: Zambia
Lima: Zambia
Liyuwa: Zambia
Lomwe: Malawi
Lozi: Zambia
Luano: Zambia
Lucazi: Zambia
Lugbara: Uganda
Luhya: Kenya
Lumbu: Zambia
Lunda: Zambia
Lundwe: Zambia
Lungu: Zambia
Luo: Kenya, Tanzania
Luvale: Zambia
Luunda: Zambia
Maasai: Kenya and Tanzania
Makoa: Comoros
Makoma: Zambia
Makonde: Mozambique
Makua: Mozambique
Mambwe: Zambia
Manyika: Mozambique
Mashasha: Zambia
Mashi: Zambia
Mbowe: Zambia
Mbukushu: Zambia
Mbumi: Zambia
Mbunda: Zambia
Mbwela: Zambia
Merina: Madagascar
Meru: Kenya
Mukulu: Zambia
Mulonga: Zambia
Munyoyaya: Kenya
Ndau: Mozambique
Ndembu: Zambia
Ng'umbo: Zambia
Ngonde: Malawi
Ngoni: Malawi
Nguni: Mozambique
Nkoya: Zambia
Nsenga: Zambia
Nyakyusa: Tanzania
Nyamwezi: Tanzania
Nyanja: Malawi, Zambia
Nyengo: Zambia
Nyiha: Zambia
Ogiek: Kenya
Oimatsaha: Comoros
Pare: Tanzania
Rundi: Uganda
Rwanda: Uganda
Sakalava: Comoros
Seba: Zambia
Sena: Malawi, Mozambique
Senga: Zambia
Sengwer: Kenya
Shangana: Mozambique
Shanjo: Zambia
Shila: Zambia
Shona: Mozambique
Simaa: Zambia
Soli: Zambia
Subiya: Zambia
Sukuma: Tanzania
Swaka: Zambia
Swahili: East Africa & bordering regions
Tabwa: Zambia
Tambo: Zambia
Toka: Zambia
Totela: Zambia
Tumbuka: Malawi, Zambia
Tonga: Malawi, Mozambique, Zambia
Tutsi: Burundi, Rwanda
Twa (Pygmy): Congo & bordering regions
Unga: Zambia
Wandya: Zambia
Watha: Kenya
Yao: Malawi, Mozambique
Yiaku/Yaaku: Kenya
Yombe: Zambia
Zulu: South Africa & bordering regions
Dorze: Ethiopia
Gumuz: Ethiopia
Gurage: Ethiopia
Hamar: Ethiopia
Hedareb: Eritrea
Jeberti: Ethiopia
Kichepo: Ethiopia
Kunama: Eritrea
Me'en: Ethiopia
Mursi: Ethiopia
Nara: Eritrea
Nuer: Ethiopia
Nyangatom: Ethiopia
Oromo: Ethiopia
Qemant: Ethiopia
Rashaida: Eritrea
Rer Bare: Ethiopia
Saho: Eritrea
Shanqella: Ethiopia
Sidama: Ethiopia
Silt'e: Ethiopia & bordering regions
Suri: Ethiopia
Tigre: Eritrea
Tigray (Tigrinya): Ethiopia & ordering regions
Welayta: Ethiopia
Zay: Ethiopia
Berber (Amazigh): Maghreb & bordering regions
Dinka: South Sudan
Egyptians: (Egypt)
Haratin: Morocco, Mauritania
Nuba: Sudan
Nubians: Egypt, Sudan
Nuer: South Sudan
Shilluk: South Sudan
Bushmen: Kalahari & bordering regions
Khoikhoi: South Africa
Namaqua: South Africa
Baka: Congo & bordering regions
Balengue: Equatorial Guinea
Benga: Equatorial Guinea
Bubi people: Bioko Island, Eq. Guinea
Bujeba: Equatorial Guinea
Combe or Ndowe: Eq. Guinea
Duala people: Cameroon
Beti-Pahuin/Fang: Eq. Guinea
Ogoni people: Nigeria
Serer: Senegal & bordering regions
Tuareg: the Sahel
Toubou: southern Sahara
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This fraudulent initiative only goes further to prove the scam associated with anything Kanu. The word "indigenous" in 'I'POB is a deliberate misuse to hoodwink the gullible into recruiting and expansion of Kanu's criminal enterprise. Kanu's lack of remorse and inability to make amends will contiguously inflict upon him human and natural haunts, especially by the ancestors and ghosts of the Indigenous people. These people being physically and spiritually close to nature have the most potent ghosts, spirits, shamans, Voodoos. Only a being blocked from friendly admonishings will ride on the back of their sufferings.
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PHOTOS
1. An indigenous woman: Ethiopia
2. Native American: USA
3. The Yanomami: Brazil
4. Kanawua: Indonesia

udemzyudex:
The window is good, iron windows is the best for government secondary school and primary school cos some students can be very destructive.

At least it will last longer than the wooden ones

Accepted. The explanation you gave is good.

Those grasses can earn you some criticisms. And which kind 'Windows Explorer' be dis?

QueenOfNepal:
You said worse against PEJ O ye hypocrite

Never on her matrimonial sex issues. I challenge you.

Jonathan is a disaster.

A Buhari (even a sick one, who's the nightmare of Omokri, FFK and Fayose) is better than 10 walking Jonathans.

Jonathan again? Maybe in Biafra.

VanNistelrooy24:
Is remi really married?

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

VanNistelrooy24:
A sexy Remi will definitely squirt all over bourdillion if she sees this picture.

Don't insinuate such, esp for a woman who is married.

Why this obsession about somebody's health?

attackgat:
I also watched an interview a year or 2 years ago and thought I was watching a slave from 17th century America talking.

Essentially, what Professor Oyebode wants everyone to accept is that on the 1st of October 1960, all the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria such as Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio, Ogoni etc that were under the colonial arrangement of the British called Nigeria, now officially lost their right of self determination and their sovereignty. So in essence, we actually fell deeper into bondage on October 1st 1960 than becoming free. To the professor, achieving self rule in 1960 was the same as surrendering our sovereingty to a super state called Nigeria and anyone who wants to leave can only do so by war. This is the thinking of a man who lives inside a box. The inability to reason beyond his nose.

Ok oo! na you get your Biafrs and na you know how to get am,

She didn't start it.