₦airaland Forum

BETATRON:
my brother that's the what you get when your religion don't entertain logic oh

The guy just quoted the "entire" bible and finally said IT IS CONFUSING.....what a CONFUSIoN INDEED
Outta data jare lemme get some rest....salaam

No, it is christianity that never entertain LOGIC, if not you wouldn't have called Jesus the human being your God, even after you can not prove it.

BETATRON:
Wow! Wow!! Wow !!!

Did you just quote 1corinthian15:5 as jesus appeared to cephas then peter?

So wrong

The correct statement

1corinthian15;5 jesus was seen by cephas then by the TWELVE


Matt28-16 -20 ----i didn't see any 500 here I only saw eleven are you sure you KNOW how to check the bible? Or is your version different from mine?

Well I'm using the new king james version so pick it up and check please

@plappville

Moreover you don't have to quote the entire bible to clarify just one contradiction out of 100s of them

Let's see how many verse you will quote to explain this one

John8:14----jesus said " though if I bear witness of myself the witness is true

John5:31----if I bear witness of my self my witness is not true-


And this one

John8:29--the FATHEr as not LEFT me alone,for I always do THosE things that please Him

Matt27:46--my God,my God why hath thou forsaken me?

And this One

LUke24:50-51----jesus was carried up into heaven at BETHANY

Act1:12---he ascended into heaven at MOUNT OLIVET


waiting patiently to see what unfolds

Is only in Christianity that you hear annoying and ridiculous things like, Kings James version, Protestant version etc. How many version did your bible has? And please which one is the correct one.

plappville:
But the quran proved Jesus is a creator. And the Quran presents criteria to distinguish the true God from false gods.

Is He then Who creates like him who does not create? Do you not then mind?... And those whom they call on besides Allah have not created anything while they are themselves created; Dead (are they), not living, and they know not when they shall be raised. S. 16:17, 20-21 Shakir
And they have taken besides Him gods, who do not create anything while they are themselves created, and they control not for themselves any harm or profit, and they control not death nor life, nor raising (the dead) to life. S. 25:3 Shakir

If God creates Jesus according to quran and jesus created a bird. This makes two creators in the quran or it saying Jesus is God because this attribute is for God only.

While, we know you people to be liars, Jesus can never be God. Jesus is Human being like you.

plappville:
Show me the Christians killing Christians in any Christian state. Just like the shia and sunnis do today?

A very good example are your christians brothers that disgust as ISIS and are killing Muslims around the world.

plappville:
No, this is not a permission. Only the Almighty God can create a life.


Did Jesus told u He was God in tbe Bible? But The coran said so.


No, they are not God. But they can do such miracles by calling on the name of Jesus. But they cant create a life. Only the creator has this attribute.

The only dark religion is the one that kill to defend a dead mans name. And his religion. You can insult Jesus no christian will slap u or wotse kill you. But you cant insult Muhammad. You will be killed because the quran supports this.

Jesus is not God, he can never be, Quran never said so.

plappville:
He is saying this....

[size=14pt]And this is what your fellow Christians did to Hiroshima, Murderers. [/size]

plappville:
I see how uou have sense when all u do is kill like Muhammad did...

[size=14pt]In Luke 19:27 your Jesus said "...bring them and slaughter them in front of me"
How do you explain that.

Remember the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, bring Vietnamese joint. Your fellow christians killed them and you are happy, murderers!


[/size]

truthman2012:
What was the cause of the war if your claim is true?

The cause doesn't matter, they killed and according to your definition they were animals.

plappville:
But the quran proved Jesus is a creator. And the Quran presents criteria to distinguish the true God from false gods.

Is He then Who creates like him who does not create? Do you not then mind?... And those whom they call on besides Allah have not created anything while they are themselves created; Dead (are they), not living, and they know not when they shall be raised. S. 16:17, 20-21 Shakir
And they have taken besides Him gods, who do not create anything while they are themselves created, and they control not for themselves any harm or profit, and they control not death nor life, nor raising (the dead) to life. S. 25:3 Shakir

If God creates Jesus according to quran and jesus created a bird. This makes two creators in the quran or it saying Jesus is God because this attribute is for God only.

No, God gave him the power to do it, as he gave many prophets power to perform one miracle of the other.
So he did it by God's permission.

Do you no that when Jesus was asked about the day of Judgment, he said nobody knows the day, not even the angels in the heaven except the father. SO HOW CAN HE BE GOD IF HE KNOWS NOTHING?

Now let me ask you one questions, what do you say of some of your pastors that claimed that they resurrect death bodies? Are you going to call them God also?

God please give Christians a bit of logic so that they would come out of this darkness.

[size=14pt]
1. The "Lord" tempted David... 2 Samuel 24:1 or "Satan" Provoke David... I Chronicles 21:1

2. 700 or 7000 "Horsemen" or "footmen"...? 2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1Chronicles 19:18

3. Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 Kings 7:26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5

4. Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 Kings 4:26

5. Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he? 1 Samuel 28:6 vs 1 Chronicles 10:13-14

6. Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 Kings 2:11 Elijah ascended, and Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.

7. Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only "One" John 17:12

8. "ALL" are sinners Contradicted by: "Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commits sin... "

If you can clear this confusion from your so call bible then you can say bible is 100% truth. By the way this is just a tip of the iceberg, I reserved the remaining ones for another day.

[/size]

plappville:
Did God create Islam? Why do muslims hate themselves so much that they kill each other to be the best in allahs eyes? Is allah a god of confusion? Do you think islam is growing and will dominate the world seeing how they kill themselves?

And why did the catholic Trinitarians Killed millions of Christians (the protestants, Unitarian, etc), definitely, Christianity is not the handy work of God.

BETATRON:
my brother that's the what you get when your religion don't entertain logic oh

The guy just quoted the "entire" bible and finally said IT IS CONFUSING.....what a CONFUSIoN INDEED
Outta data jare lemme get some rest....salaam

ohhh, I want die with laughter.

BETATRON:
see what I mean? @mamsong9
Can you tell me what he is saying this looks to me like speaking in tongues

Please help me ask him, was Jesus Greek?

Why is it that the Original bible is in Greek?

BETATRON:
see what I mean? @mamsong9
Can you tell me what he is saying this looks to me like speaking in tongues

If you words make any meaning to me, I think is this.
Jesus is not the Son of God, simple.

@BETATRON: I Think this people need serious deliverance. Their life is so confused that they could not differential truth from falsehood.

BETATRON:
see what I mean? @mamsong9
Can you tell me what he is saying this looks to me like speaking in tongues

If you words make any meaning to me, I think is this.
Jesus is not the Son of God, simple.

BETATRON:
hehe...you think calling jesus son of God means he was begotten by God?

Then you haven't come across these verses

For I am the father to israel and EPhRIAM IS MY FIRST BORN--jeremiah31:9

---i am ascending to my father and YOUR FAThER my GOD and YOuR GOD--john20:17

---THOu(david) art MY son,this day I have BEGOTTEN Thee--psalms2:7


---the son of enos,the son of seth,the son of Adam,the SON OF GOD---luke3:38

----He(solomon) shall be my son,and I will be his FATHER and I will.......-------1chron22:11

Now that you have seen these verses please explain them ONE BY ONE

Then why did bible said "for God love the world so He gave His only son... blah blah blah "

Christians you are the best liars.

truthman2012:
Do you think the Bible is like quran that is total lies?


https://www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets

[size=14pt]
Ok let us put bible to test:

CONTRADICTIONS IN BIBLE

1. The "Lord" tempted David... 2 Samuel 24:1 or "Satan" Provoke David... I Chronicles 21:1

2. 700 or 7000 "Horsemen" or "footmen"...? 2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1Chronicles 19:18

3. Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 Kings 7:26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5

4. Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 Kings 4:26

5. Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he? 1 Samuel 28:6 vs 1 Chronicles 10:13-14

6. Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 Kings 2:11 Elijah ascended, and Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.

7. Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only "One" John 17:12

8. "ALL" are sinners Contradicted by: "Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commits sin... "

If you can clear this confusion from your so call bible then you can say bible is 100% truth. By the way this is just a tip of the iceberg, I reserved the remaining ones for another day.


[/size]

plappville:
It's all you can do insult to prove a pointless point. You Quran said Jesus created. Who can create a life if not God almighty? Allah called Jesus God. And also called him a mere prophet like others. This is what happened when you copy from others. Muhammad copied bible to form a Quran. Call me Mumu or anything else. The facts stand! Jesus gave life but Muhammad could not even see his food was poisoned. He ate it...

I call you MUMU because presented yourself such.
And you can tell me that am rude for calling you by your name, after all we are all humans, so we are equal.
But God is not the mate of your FATHER for you to open your filthy mouth and abuse Him.

plappville:
Let's put religion aside, HUMAN DO NOT KILL HUMAN.
Animals kill fellow animals for food. So Muslims are animals by killing thier fellow human..

In the same manner, Christians are animals for killing the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

chiedu7:
You inherit land you did not create.
Likewise to inherited sin from Adam & Eve.

And Need Jesus to remove the inherited sin.

You said u have not commited sin.
Well you have lied haven't you.
That makes you a liar suitable for HELL




Things of God are spiritual understood.

God is a spirit so to start to understand you need Godly spiritual insight, which u lack being an unbeliever.

Jesus is God as the Old Testament prophesied.

Notice Jesus is called God.



Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


Notice Jesus is called Prince of Peace above.
So Jesus gives us peace which moslems & mohammed lack.
Thats why moslems always heap peace on mohammed becos he has no peace.

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you:


Now Jesus & the Father are both God and yet distinct


John 10:3 (KJV)
I and my Father are one.

Me lying is not a sin that Adam committed, that is my own sin. Adam committed his own sin and he is responsible for it.
And if by Jesus' death all sins are forgiven, then why are you still disturbing our peace that we should repent?
His death is useless to you since you would still account for it. confused people.

Annunaki:
According to islamic allahh who confessed to being the greatest of deceivers and mohammed who was a notorious armed robber, womaniser, liar and murderer. Why will you believe the testimonies of such viles characters?

You can only abuse whenever you are out of point. Jesus is not God, or son of God. It can never happen.

chiedu7:
Please mamsong9 the above I wrote to BETATRON can help you too.

Jesus can to die for the sins of you and I.

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Jesus Himself said that they cannot do anything to Him if it were not planned.
NOW THAT IS POWER, TO PLAN YOUR DEATH & RESURRECTION.

1 Corinthians 15:3
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Did mohammed die and resurrect like Jesus?
SORRY MOHAMMED IS DEAD AND REMAINS DEAD!

Sorry to say but you are dumber than I figured.
The bomb was dropped Japan that was murdering people.
Japan is a mainly buddhist country and we all know that buddhism's violence is only 2nd to islam.

Why did he have to die for the sin I did not commit?
I would never believe you.

truthman2012:
Yes, he did and it was the reason they killed him.

John 19:7
The Jewish leaders insisted, "We
have a law, and according to that
law he must die, because he
claimed to be the Son of God.


John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father
hath sanctified, and sent into the
world, Thou blasphemest; because
I said, I am the Son of God?

It is a lie, he never said so.

truthman2012:
Well, you are not alone in the unbelief, people like you killed Jesus for calling himself the Son of God.

Everything about Jesus is denied by islam showing its FALSEHOOD.

Really, did Jesus called himself son of God?

pretydiva:
Why is he smiling like dat

He was smiling because, at the back of his mind he was thinking like: Pastor finish blabbing, I would give you the money you came looking for.

BETATRON:
lol...see logic abeg...now death is a sign of smallness and life is a sign of greatness

How come you aint greater than mahatma gandhi,albert Einstein,, nikolas tesla and many more

Will you say your church nun is greater than mary because mary is dead and she is alife?

Satan has never tasted death but the bible said jesus died for 3days now will you say satan is greater than jesus because satan never tasted death?

I love this.
They have no sense.

truthman2012:
Here you come again, you don't use your brain to discern spiritual things because they are invisible.

Which fellow Christian children doubt Jesus Sonship? You lie freely because your god permits lying.

What is spiritual about somebody been born without father, even after God made it know to you that he is alone in His dominion, His Majesty, His Kingship...
Must you prove to us that a man is God or what?

Look God is not man, and so He never beget anybody.

BETATRON:
hehehe.He tire me oh...I wonder How TRYING to prove another persons religion wrong makes theirs right

while, all I know is that Jesus can never be God, nor Son of God.
You can never take him to a level beyond the level God put him, and that is A PROPTHET OF GOD.

chiedu7:
I dont hate muslims, I love them and want them to know the truth.

M0HAMMED that moslems follow is DEAD & BURIED
JE.SUS Christians follow is ALIVE AND COMING BACK.

it's common sense that the living is better than the dead.

If M0HAMMED is so great how come he is DEAD and JE.SUS ALIVE!

So I want moslems to follow the Living King Jesus.




Too much jihad has messed up ur mind.

Jesus punished them for committing abominations

Ezekiel 9
4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Your islam is busy killing people world wide.

Even your follow moslems now accept that islam is violent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Kmp-VHryI

Are you sure the living is better than the death? ok, when Jesus died are you telling me those people that were around including the Roman and the Jews that killed him were better than him?

But the problem with you Christians is your utter lack of LOGIC, if not you would not have accepted a man as your maker even after he came out from between the two legs of a woman.

As for violence, you guys are hypocrites. Have you forgotten the 200 Christian scientist that created nuclear weapon and gave it to another Christian Air Force man to go and drop it on innocent civilians. Nature would never forgive Christianity, the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would never forgive you, God would never forgive You!!!

truthman2012:
Is it not unreasonable to believe in Muhammad's revelations, the quran that denies Jesus as the Son of God?

Muhammad didn't possess the characters of someone God can use as a prophet. How do you believe the revelation of a murderer, rapist, womanizer, carravan robber, liar ? The true God cannot have such a man as his prophet. Never.

It then means everything he said in the quran is from Satan.

Even son of your fellow Christians still have doubt in their mind concerning Sonship of Jesus. Nothing qualify him as the son of God.
God has no Son, would you start using your brain for the first time?

chiedu7:
This clown called the Pope went to Africa and said that Christians & Muslims are brothers.

When the Islamic Prophet specifically said Muslims are not to have Christians as Friends

Sura 5:51
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends!

Jesus specifically said anybody who rejects Him is an Anti-Christ!

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

So how can Christians & Anti-Christs be brothers & sisters?

THIS CLOWN OF A POPE DID NOT TELL THE MOHAMMEDANS TO ACCEPT JESUS BUT PUT THEM AT EASE IN THEIR FALSE RELIGION.

THIS POPE IS OF THE DEVIL



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34960971

You, see your problem started with the fact that you hate Islam so much so that you are not ready to understand anything.
Please next time before you quote Quran make sure that you also read the tafsir of that verse very well.

Olufonade:
I hope we all need to unanimously agree to reject this type of corper as we reject those who put on veil as they do not conform with NYSC standard.

Christians are bigot, pretenders and the biggest liar I have ever seen.

what is this woman wearing no be Hijab?