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Family › Re: Nairaland Christmas Giveaway 2018 Awareness Thread by Mancala: 11:32pm On Dec 03, 2018

DocAdray:
Nice idea Sir/Ma'am.
You could create an account on IG, name it so-so-so Foundation or Initiative, Get someone to manage the account and help you screen for applications of genuine entrepreneurs, aid for widows, pregnant women, nursing mothers, children in need, etc. Creating such on NL is okay too, but may not go through easily since it is a faceless forum.

At this point in time, I have more of finances to offer than time. Would like to piggy back on something thats already established and will most likely remain anonymous in the background. As things progress, I may be in a position to offer up more of my time.

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Family › Re: Nairaland Christmas Giveaway 2018 Awareness Thread by Mancala: 7:30pm On Dec 03, 2018

sirBLUNT:
well I don't know but I think Yale initiative are doing something similar to this,I will like to partner as a giver and also an administrative partner

Thanks for the tip. Is Yale a Nigerian based organization or are you talking about the Ivy league school in Connecticut? Can you please provide a point of contact.... website, email address. It would be beneficial to have eyes and ears on the ground to facilitate things so appreciate your offer to partner on this.

Family › Re: Nairaland Christmas Giveaway 2018 Awareness Thread by Mancala: 6:38pm On Dec 03, 2018

sirBLUNT:
I think I'm interested in this kind of partnership...

In what ways are you interested ..... as a recepient, an administrative partner or perhaps even a giver? I haven't yet established the mechanics of how this will work. I was actually hoping to find established channels that are already doing similar things so that they can do the intial screening/selection and I can step in and support with finances and mentorship. An organization called TEHN was suggested. Do you know about it and if its still active?

Nairaland General › Re: The E-Helpers Network (TeHN) - Official Thread by Mancala: 6:05pm On Dec 03, 2018

Is TEHN still active oin here? I am interested in partnering on a number of initiatives like schorlarships for grade and high school kids, financial aid to widows and orphans, mentorship and guidance to small scale businesses.

Family › Re: Nairaland Christmas Giveaway 2018 Awareness Thread by Mancala: 4:55pm On Dec 03, 2018

Twaci:
This is for Awareness. Save your items for the main day, thanks for contributing dear

Do you have any suggestions for how those of us who are challenged with a deficeincy in geographical proximity can participate? I am mulling the following ideas for "partnership": (a) Scholarship opportunities for grade school or high school needy kids (b) a leg up for financially disadvantaged widows and or pregnant women (c) entrepreneurs with a business idea outside of buying and selling.

My idea of a partnership is this. I want to go beyond a one time gifting or a handout to celebrate Christmas. For example, we would draw up a plan, set long term goals and intermediate milestones and work together to achieve success. I am ultimately interested in helping someone succeed in life.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 10:02pm On Dec 02, 2018

Babyvet:
There is evidence that he is a fraudtser , he even admitted to it on the student visa thread. Also analyze this , how do you go from begging on a student visa thread , to rich kids of Miami and then opening Go fund me for immigration purposes . There are too many inconsistencies to in his story.

I agree with you and commend you for the way you elegantly stated the facts. All should note what was said.. "there is evidence that he is a fraudster" and the facts that follow. Even better would have been to say there is evidence to suggest that he is a fraudster. You have made your point devoid of name calling. My position is that it is "better" to avoid name calling. Others may disagree.

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 9:50pm On Dec 02, 2018

AfonjaBoston:
A proud, unrepentant fraudster does not deserve mercy.
If the leader of the free world has not died from the various names he has been called without no court of competent jurisdiction
authorizing the name I do not see any reason why Lucas99 or any other liar, fraudster, scam artist should have a problem with it.

it is a free world and expressions are free. He is the rich boy from Miami he should sue me to court if I have trampled upon his rights

In my opinion, it is not about what or who is deserving or otherwise. It's all about who we are or who we profess to be as a people. We say everyone is innocent until proven guilty. We should at least accord him these courtesies according to what we profess. There are several ways to skin a cat. In my eyes, the point has been made by simply laying out the inconsistencies in his postings. I'm sure any reasonable person will reach the same conclusion without the labels. Why do we do this? Justice severed is not sufficient in a civilized society. Justice must be seen to be fair and along the predetermined guidelines. This is why even when a suspect is caught red handed, say stealing, we never say he/she is a thief. He/she is allegedly a thief until found guilty!

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 8:46pm On Dec 02, 2018

justwise:
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Every mods has to give reason for banning a member and the reason will be at the person's profile but i'm not sure if others can see it apart from the banned member. I do not have the time and the energy to write out every individual that got banned openly here.

I take it that a significant number get banned based on your response? From a casual observers point of view, it doesn't seem like the message is getting across!

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 8:33pm On Dec 02, 2018

And some more food for thought from a dispassionate point of view. It is absolutely okay to point out the inconsistencies in LUCAS99's historical postings and scream Caveat Emptor from the roof tops, but we should be careful with the labeling and name calling on a public forum. All indications may point to him being a scammer, but without active evidentiary support, we should leave that conclusion to the reader, or wait until he is convicted be a competent authority. I am not saying he is or he is not, but remember, the law is an ass! You never know where the chips may fall.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 8:05pm On Dec 02, 2018

justwise:
No i did not say that..i said people disagreed with me and NOT attacked me, nobody here called me names because of him/her disagreed with my view on this issue, he did that only because i called him out, get the difference now?

I am one of those that expressed a contrarian view to Justwise and I am not banned, at least not yet grin

. Disagreeing with a point of view does not equate to disagreeing with the personality and should not degenerate to disagreeable behavior. I was taken aback by the aggressive personal response from the banned party to Justwise, but chalked it up to the usual lack of online decorum that is unfortunately typical here. Did not know there was some history behind it undecided

Being a relatively new poster on this site, I have noticed a tendency for discourse to quickly degenerate into attempts to disparage and belittle. It is not unusual for Nigerians to do this in face to face conversation, but we usually have accompanying facial expressions, body language and hand gestures that reassure the listener that it is all done in jest and no offense meant! In online conversations, these add ons are not present and the discourse comes across as petty and disrespectful. Many posters on here do not realize this.

So, what's the point of my diatribe? Some words of advice given in good faith to all posters on Nairaland. When you post something, please go back and review before hitting post. Ask yourself if it addresses the topic at hand or is drifting into the realm of personalities or starting to sound like an attack.

I think Justwise did the right thing when the poster asked for offline contact, especially since there was a history of illegal conduct. This is a private site with a reputation to uphold, anyone and everyone can be banned at anytime and for any reason. However, it is incumbent on site admins, including Justwise to be fair and appear impartial in wielding the big stick so that this site does not die away with time. But Posters should not be surprised when they get banned. I believe I was banned once for a few days, just a few days after I started posting and I still have no idea why.

Justwise - How about this idea. To be more transparent, how about a quick posting when a moniker is banned stating reason for ban and the duration? This may also serve as a deterrent to others. Happy Sunday to all.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 9:32pm On Nov 28, 2018

AfonjaBoston:
Father never die una done dey share him pikin give another man like say na hamburger and fries.

[/b]She did not tell you that he is dead neither is the biological father not in their lives.

So you think adoption or guardianship is just transferred like say you are buying grocery at Wal-Mart?

[b]Just because a woman or man is married to another man or woman respectively doesn't transfer responsibility or guardianship of previous kids to the new partner it doesnt work like that.

Make una dey reason small. Desperation should not be stupidity

Crimes ( Adoption, immigration etc) involving kids are one of the most terrible things one can do just to "regularize" (who even came up with this word sef. )
papers

Yes, It does work like this for real! The distinction is this. Bilogical fatherhood is a far cry from "being a father" to the children. If in practice, the biological father is not being responsible for his kids, why would he care if legal guardianship is transferred? In fact, in most cases, the biological father is happy to be relieved of the legal responsibility. And there is no crime involved here. Legal consent is sought and given in these situations. I understand your point of view, I am a full blooded Nigerian too, however, sometimes our Nigerian sentiment holds us back from reality.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 9:20pm On Nov 28, 2018

justwise:
My initial comment regarding this still stand, the end game is to get foreign passport in exchange for your two kids, buy-one-get two free(marry their mum and get two kids) only an irresponsible father will do that.

And that end game is neither a bad thing or illegal. Different strokes, different folks; I guess we agree to disagree. Mum and kids live with new husband/father. He is responsible for their day to day upkeep and making real time decisions in their lives. What more does a "real father" do? Biological father is thousands of miles away, out of the picture. Doesn't know how the kids are feeding or schooling or anything. I guess he continues to wear the cloak of responsibility until he relinquishes on paper what he has already reliquished in practice!

To the OP - I am speaking hypothetically and in broad terms, not saying this is your situation exactly. It just appeared to be the case before more information became available.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 6:55pm On Nov 28, 2018

Beautyaddy:
Awww, your wife must be one of those extra-ordinary type of woman.

Sending you money after you retire in Naija for your upkeep.

Isn't that what your retirement money hopefully in dollars suppose to be doing?

Her point is that it's not just my retirement money, it belongs to the both of us and she will not condone me carrying everything to Nigeria. She will manage it from here and send me pocket money.

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 6:43pm On Nov 28, 2018

justwise:
right

.let me quickly clear up this though i have explained many times before

1. If the lady was on student visa/work visa or her kids were born in US then my view on this issue will be the opposite

2. I did not attend any visa interview during my student visa application neither was i asked anywhere in the form about returning home after graduation.

3. My point about foreign passport not a big deal was in regards to giving up kids for the seek of passport.

Being that I was the "culprit" that suggested giving up the kids for adoption, I feel the need to clarify. First, the suggestion was that if she eventually married a U.S. citizen to regularize her stay, she should consider getting the man she marries to adopt her kids. This means her new spouse will become their "legal father" while she remains their legal/biological mother. The biological father remains just that! She would need to get the consent of their biological father to do this hence my suggestion to have that discussion now rather than later. Why consider doing this? It would help bolster the evidence of a "real marriage" to USCIS and make the AOS interviews much easier. I have seen this happen and believe me, it makes a big difference.

Justwise - why do you think this is such an egregious act? From what we knew at that time, the biological dad had already given up those kids for all practical intents and purposes! Their Mom was making crucial decisions about their future without reference to him. He appeared not to be in the picture. Why not make it official when she has a new spouse and secure the kids future? Dad will forever be their bilogical dad, no one can take that away from him. But in terms of day to day care and welfare, someone else will be responsible. No different from the reality today!

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 6:12pm On Nov 28, 2018

EgunMogaji:
My wife who joined me 5 years ago has made it known that she’s not part of my retirement to Nigeria

I’ve been consuming odd amount of kulikuli.

It's as if our wives have met and agreed to conspire against our dreams of retiring to Ibadan. My wife and kids declared that they will not be part of my Ibadan retirement project. She said the best she can do is to be sending me pocket money every month for my upkeep shocked

. Be careful with Ibadan KuliKuli, it dey run belle. My wife absolutely loves it but always pays dearly for it later grin

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 7:32pm On Nov 27, 2018

EgunMogaji:
Thank you Sir. I’ve been gradually lengthening my stays. Even though I was in Ibadan Sept/Oct 2018, as soon as I returned to the US I had to come right back in November for another two months.

I’m in negotiations for my borehole with an Indian family near New Garage. I watched a polo match this afternoon with some Italians and saw a family of Chinese at Chicken Republic. This is the same Nigeria that some are saying people are committing suicide.

I’ll send you a private message. Let’s meet for lunch, my treat, and discuss opportunities.

LOL at the bolded statement, Baba Ibadan grin

! I have really strong roots in Ibadan, lived there for many years, but am not attached that much to the city. Was there for 3 weeks in July with my family but they left me there for Lagos after the first week and bolted from Nigeria after the second. Its a growing city, much bigger now than when I lived there many moons ago. For example, I have no idea where the area you mentioned you live is located. Must be a new development. Bring us back some bottled peanuts

... Its a huge hit amongst my American friends!

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 5:14am On Nov 26, 2018

TheCongo2:
And how do you know if she shares the same faith as you? She could be an atheist. Why do Christians always come up with bible verses even when there is no indication that the person they are talking to is a Christian?

She doesn't need to share the same faith as me to visualize and believe in something she wants to happen in her life. They say, the best way to predict the future is to make it happen or faith and works produces results. To directly answer your question, Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh! I can only speak of what I know. I hear no complaints when I quote Shakespeare or Sherlock Holmes. Let's focus on the fundamentals of the matter at hand and not get derailed by unassociated differences.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 4:59am On Nov 26, 2018

Itiswellblessed:
No...I'm no longer with my kids father and I don't try to deprive him access to his kids.

Well then, let the games resume! I have seen some very good advise on what to do/ not do while you remain here and work on next steps. I will add just a few additional pointers.
1) Like in the real estate business .....location location location. Your geographic location can have a huge impact on the timeliness of your success. If possible, move to a location where the odds are better.
2) Research what authority has been granted to the local/ county sheriffs and police. In some jurisdictions, I believe like in Arizona and Texas?, local police are authorized to inquire and obtain proof of legal status from subjects they have stopped for other reasons. Stay away from border areas where CBP patrols. There have even been cases of CBP questioning folks at TSA checkpoints
3) Do not accept any government benefits. I repeat, do not accept any government benefits
4) Do not under any circumstances present yourself as a U.S. citizen or do any thing that's the exclusive right of a citizen like vote
5) Finally, show those kids a ton of love. Hugs, kisses, occasional special treats. They are yours and you are theirs. At times like this, y'all need to comfort each other.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 3:43am On Nov 26, 2018

TheCongo2:
But you can't build a life or hope on something that hasn't passed yet.Let's be real here. A bird in your hand is better than 2 in the Bush.

Patience is a virtue dear friend. You are right to some extent, but the situation is even more dire. There are no birds and there are no bushes. However, we as Nigerians are a very religious people. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen! It may be time to excercise that faith grin

If you're good reading the political tea leaves, you will realize that immigration reform has to happen. I'm confident of that.

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 3:27am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
1986, that was 32 years ago!!!!! Daca is not amnesty, it does not provide pathway to citizenship. The program has been canceled and is being fought in the courts as we speak. Donald himself said that he MAY legalize the dreamers because they came as children but when it comes to the adults, he is not for mass amnesty. When is the last the democratic part controlled presidency and the house?

You forget the first two years of Obamas presidency was democrats controlling both houses! Obama promised immigration reform with a possible pathway to citizenship for undocumenteds. It was passed in the senate, did not even make it to the floor in the house because the republicans took over at the end of year 2. Full immigration legislation was upended in priority by the affordable care act in his first 2 years.
Also, note that DACA was a compromise executive action after Obama was pressured by his base to fulfill his promise. He couldn't provide a pathway to citizenship because that would have been unconstitutional. Had to come from congress.
Mark my words, it will happen. Trump may only be a one term president. Chickens are beginning to come home to roost!

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 3:15am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
You fail to realize that the op is a mother of two kids. If it was that easy and the op is single , why has she not married by now? I'm sure you knew about the marriage option before she opened this thread.

I am fully aware that she has 2 kids. It may not be easy, but it's not impossible. I know, I have personally witnessed it more than twice. In one case, the woman's kids were in their teens. She met a guy who wanted a family but did not want the stress of raising babies. Win win situation right? They are still happily married after 5 years. Word on the street then was that she will never find a man with that kind of baggage she had.

But all this may be in vain. He kids father is still around. I suspect they are still married so not an option at this point.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 3:00am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
okay when is the last time Amnesty happened in America ?

Happened in 1986, under the most unlikely president expected to do so, Ronald Reagan!
Some schools of thought classify the DACA program as amnesty and I agree. I believe DACA was a forerunner for full blown amnesty. I am willing to bet amnesty will happen under the next democratic president if they control both houses along with the presidency. It has been on the agenda for long, was only moved down in priority by the affordable care act.

Heck, Mr Trump may do it if they agree to build his wall grin

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 2:48am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
But why does the op have to get married ? People keep mentioning marriage , marriage in the western world is different from marriage from back home . Even if of some you guys are encouraging arrangeee, the op only has $3k , so I don’t think that would be enough.

We were all suggesting marriage because that is the only available option based on a presumed attempt to stay and regularize her status. I am not proposing she pay for an arranged marriage. Far from it. I believe she can find true love quite easily here in the States . There are lots of people looking for love and companionship,it may just not be in her age bracket. Having said that, is marriage for love not a recent Western development? As far as I know, marriage as recently as the last century was mostly arranged. Each party expected clearly defined benefits going into the marriage. Thus, marriage is defined as a contract between two people. I wonder why the government frowns on marriage for immigration benefits? Perhaps it's wrong if it's solely for immigration benefits and if it's paid for, but if it's just one of the accompanying benefits, then so be it. This is what marriage in antiquity was all about. Both sides gaining some defined benefit .

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 2:26am On Nov 26, 2018

Itiswellblessed:
Phewww...chill bro.
Their father is not dead. He's in nigeria and very very active in his kids life.

As for Canada, that is not in my plans.

For the former and especially the latter half of your response, I am truly happy for you and your kids. However, am I impertinent to assume you are still married to your kids father? If you still are, and will remain so, then I'm sorry, I have no other suggestions to regularize your stay.
But you could consider this. American immigration laws are always changing. There is a strong possibility that congress may pass lesgislation granting "forgiveness" to all illegals in the future. It has happened before. They need to figure out what to do with an estimated 20 million undocumented immigrants sometime soon. The longer you're here, the better your chances. But this means y'all being in limbo for an indefinite amount of time. And what about hubby in Nigeria?
The first best option is to amass as much funds as yo can and take your children home to be with their father.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 1:38am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
But what if the father is dead? What if she took the kids to the US against the father will?

If the father is dead, she would need a copy of the death certificate to prove it and that is that. Only her consent is needed for adoption. If she took the kids to the U.S. against the will of their father, she is out of gas. In lay mans terms, that's akin to kidnapping. Consent of both parents is required for international travel and it will be considered a felony if she did not get his consent. With this type of felony, adjustment of status, even through marriage to an American citizen is not possible. I have seen both situations before. Let me disclose some personal things about myself at the risk of being identified by someone who is familiar with my situation. I speak a few languages fluently and have served as an interpreter and also a financial co sponsor at a few AOS and even stokes interviews. I have seen many of these situations first hand. She needs to be well prepared if this is the route she has chosen I hope she is still reading thes posts for her own benefit

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 12:55am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
Like I said mentioned previous , we do not know the status of the father of the children. A very vital piece that the op did not provide. I'm not being sentimental one bit. In some cases, I do believe that parental rights should be taken away , but definitely not for passport reasons. Reasons like being abusive and creating unsafe environments for the child and not being involved with the child.

You are right, she has provided no information about the father. However, my take is that an involved Dad should be screaming "bloody murder" if his kids were put at risk, and not be silent about what's happening. I was not suggesting that his parental rights should be taken away from him, rather I said she should ask that he willingly give them up "officially" to be adopted by her future American citizen spouse, to facilitate the speedily resolution of their status issue. He will always be their bilogical father, no one can take that away from him. However, he could consider giving away his day to day decision making rights over those kids, something he has already done for all intents and purposes. This is where I meant that you and Justwise are perhaps being a tad sentimental. He is apparently not in the picture right now making important decisions about these kids future. What difference does it make if this is made official?

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 12:24am On Nov 26, 2018

Babyvet:
exactly, she has two children to care for, she has to be careful with her movement. She has not mentioned the kids father. Having a foreign passport is a big achievement for Nigerians , that sometimes that all they ever achieve. I'm not going to deny the privileges having a foreign passport brings, but one should not kill themselves or give up their children for it.

In the practical sense of things, has the father not technically given up these children? They are here illegally in the U.S. along with all the attendant risks. The mother is trying to figure things out on her own without a single mention of their Dad. Fathering a child is not the same as being a father to them. If the situation is as I have stated above, signing away his rights is rather a moot point. He has already done so in all intent and purpose. Justwise and yourself are perhaps being sentimental in this regard, no?

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 12:12am On Nov 26, 2018

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status.

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

I respectfully declare that some of the questions she ignored are probably more important than the trivial questions she has answered. Where is the father of the kids? Silence on this speaks volumes to me. Does she have consent to keep the kids with her in a foreign country, perhaps away from him? If divorced, where is the divorce decree/evidence. She may choose to ignore these now, but guess what? These will be asked at an adjustment of status interview so she better be prepared! Some may be advising from their village in Nigeria with no inkling of what is real. On the other hand, some have more than 25 years living and working in the U.S. and have seen many instances like this. If this is the path she has chosen, she needs to be prepared to walk it!

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 12:02am On Nov 26, 2018

oluayebenz:
The OP is too smart than some desperate village dude here.
She replied to a better post.
She ignored unnecessary comments asking nonsense questions.

She's exposed.

Before somebody can come openly don't U know she has tried all her possible best to change her status.

Some are advising to help as if they are mayor.

Some are even advising from their village.

I respectfully declare that some of the questions she ignored are probably more important than the trivial questions she has answered. Where is the father of the kids? Silence on this speaks volumes to me. Does she have consent to keep the kids with her in a foreign country, perhaps away from him? If divorced, where is the divorce decree/evidence. She may choose to ignore these now, but guess what? These will be asked at an adjustment of status interview so she better be prepared! Some may be advising from their village in Nigeria with no inkling of what is real. On the other hand, some have more than 25 years living and working in the U.S. and have seen many instances like this. If this is the path she has chosen, she needs to be prepared to walk it!

Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 11:37pm On Nov 25, 2018

justwise:
..and why should the option of giving up 2kids should be considered in the first place? Having a paper/passport does not mean that one will live happily ever and be successfully. You people post here as if having a foreign paper/passport is that big of an achievement, its bloody no big deal.

As to the issue of the father giving up his kids, there are associated accelerated benefits. I will not go any further into the issue. I agree, possessing a foreign passport in itself is not a big achievement. What you do with it is what matters. Some are born into it, some are blessed with it and some work hard for it. I have expressed no opinions as to the merits or demerits of remaining in the U.S. vs. going home to Nigeria. I have only laid out what she should expect to do to speedily regularize her stay based on currently available options. The silence on the whereabouts of the father speaks volumes to me. Let the games continue!

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 9:35pm On Nov 25, 2018

Beautyaddy:
Beats me too.

I was shocked too at such a suggestion.

On the other hand, we shouldn't be surprised at what some very desperate people can result to.

I'm surprised you are shocked at this! Are these not the implications of her deciding to try to legalize her stay through marriage? I have deliberately laid it out in plain terms for all who are counseling for her to stay. It is her chosen path, I can only tell her what to expect on this journey.

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Travel › Re: To Move Back From America Or Not... by Mancala: 9:27pm On Nov 25, 2018

justwise:
Some Nigerians are something else honestly, who is that irresponsible/responsible father that will give up 2kids just for a foreign passport?

Why do we value material things far more than human dignity and decency?

Ding, ding, ding. And we have a winner! Sometimes, simply saying your best option is to go home, as I said in my very first post on this thread may not resonate well. I have laid out the practical steps she will need to undertake to go down the path of staying and trying to legalize her stay based on the only available option today. Perhaps the reality may set in on seeing these drastic steps. Or perhaps maybe it's something the kids father and herself are willing to go through with. I will not present any opinions on the rationality of going through with this, I know not from whence they came. The game is afoot!

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