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Has Barbaric as this killing are.
there is a God approach to it

we must no that we wrestle not against flesh and blood,

we must therefore stand up on our kneel to dethrone every power of darkness that is at work against the body of christ

that God should destroy the fortress of the enemy and the so called anti christain be the one to proclaim chist just as Paul (saul) did.

for the weapon of our warfare are not canal,

you will post forever to convince any muslim on this tread. there is already a thick veil over thier heart it will only take God's Reveleation for them to come close

the mystery of Christ is still a mystery to non-believer

all you can do now is interceed on thier behalf.

they have zeal for God but shamefully without knowledge.

Give your life to christ; you are afraid now because you have no faith in what you have try christ and see the difference you see how you will take the battle to the enemy camp without fear

i know where wichtes belong; under my feet the death of christ and his ressurection gave me this victory

Well is good to emphasize this, i bet lots of church goers only belive in thier heart but to come to the point of cofession is not what lots of them have done consciously

actually i am evangelizing from this perspective

Being born again starts truly with beleiving and confessing

i hope most of the chraistain hopefuls will take a cue from this

really a great testimony of the love of christ
i had my own gory past which he saved me from but i am happy he cleansed me for a brighter future and a good use
if you are out there and you think this is a fable
Bro. you don't no what you are missing

Peace and joy like a river nothing can compare

i enjoin you to join the chariot

Jesus loves you
you experince him if you will confess him today
good luck

well said
but i will like to ask with biblical explanation how a person who can not speak nor hear recieve salvation without speaking apart from sign language

thanks

nopqeater

the bible has already take care of people like you "even if a daeth man be raised up to share the gospel there will still be those who will not believe.
the truth about cgrist is timeless it will take more than a myopic eyes to see it.
if you may, ask for an encounter with a sincere haerth you will be suprise about the trtuh of christ.
anybody can talk and post like you did, but this are more than words it is more in the power of it which we have touch by faith

Believe it or not this Jesus is so real i can touch it i am i living testimony.

there are such a great virtue in christ than you can see in other religion; the love, the sign and wonder is personality the list goes on.
why not come to this higher palin the life of imposibilty

You all claim that God can do all thing but doubt the fact that he can appear in the nature of Man to redeem man from the doom of death.
i beleive your premise is such an irony

Know this, controversy has always sorrounded the Diety of Jesus even when he was alive. the Pharises who are intelectual like you and me said He equate himself with God.
so not suprising if thesame controversy remain this day. the truth is God does not need any body to Proof him. He has chosen Jesus christ to save becuase he knows we don't have what it take to attain perfection

Remember only the perfect shall see God
perfection can never be attined by the work of the flesh
Only believe in Jesus then the Comforter will come to build you to perfection

think about this

unity is not peculiar in religious even those in cult are very united in thier cousre but that does not make them acceptable. so is not by facing a particular direction that connect you to God it is a heart thing.

the heart connection reside in christianity. a realtionshuip

yes oh i am drunk in the spirit

you can't beat that can you

BEFORE YOU CAN ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD YOU HAVE TO BE HOLY (SINLESS)
OBVOIUSLY YOU ARE NOT
SO HOW CAN GOD WHO CAN NOT STAND THE ONE SIN OF ADAM PERMIT YOUR SIN DRUNK SELF INTO HIS KINGDOM IS NOT GOD A GOD OF JUSTICE

RAPTURE NO BE WISHFULL THINKING NA BY RIGHT GIVEN TO THOSE ARE HAVE BEEN CLEANSE BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST

ATTIANING HOLINESS IS ONLY THRU THE ACCEPATNCE OF CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOUR CHIKENA

GOD IS OMINIPOTENT AND AS A DEAR GOD HE IS ALWAYS WILLING TO ANSWER OUR SINCERE QUESTION

SO I DARE YOU TO ASK GOD TODAY TO, BY HIS OWN SPECIAL MEANS COMMUNACATE THE TRUTH OR THE FALSEHOOD OF JESUS CHRIST TO YOU

NOTE WITH A SINCERE HEART

WHO EVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED

TO ALL MUSLIM FOLKS

THE REASON FOR YOUR AGITATION IS CLEAR
THE TRUTYH ABOUT CHRIST DOES NOT GO DOWN WELL WUITH YOU
SO YOU TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO WATER IT DOWN
BUT NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS EXONERATE ITSELF
IT NEEDS NOBODY TO PROOF IT

JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED BECAUSE THEY ASSERT THAT HE WAS A LIE
THAT IS THESAME THING YOU GUYS ARE DOING

BUT ASK YOUR SELF WHAT IF THIS IS TRUE

IS MAN ABLE TO ATTAIN PERFECTION BY HIMSELF

CAN GOD OVERLOOK YOUR WRONG WITHOUT THE REMISSION OF BLOOD

ADAM AND EVE WERE SENT OUT BECAUSE OF ONE SIN YOU HAVE DONE MORE
WHERE SHALL YOU HIDE WITHOUT A SAVIOUR

if truly Jesus never died
the Disciples who were killed becuase they professed that they saw the resurrected Jesus i am sure would not have died for a lie
they will not deny what they saw because it was real and still is

NO BODY WILL EVER AKLLOW HIMSELF TO BE KILLED FOR A LIE

THE QUARAN SAY THERE WAS A FACEOFF. THAT IT WAS JUDAS THAT WAS KILLED

QUESTION
IF IT WAS JUDAS FACE THEN WE ASK
DID HE LOSE HIS MIND ALSO BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE DENY HIMSELF EASILY BEFORE PILATE
jUDAS IS NOT A VERY NICE GUY HE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID DOES NICE WORDS ON THE CROSS

BELIEVE IT OR NOT CHRIST DIED AND HE IS COMING TO RAPTURE THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN HIS DEATH AND RESURRECRTION
MUSILM BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

this is a thoughtful tread
i would like to share a bithday experience for the first time with any body born on the 20th of october. we could even form a club.

my phone nos.
email:

Asking about the crime of Jesus frm the Koranic view? Is jesus a criminer? i will advise u to read your bible very what the crime of jesus is before non belivers in his time decide to crucify him.

About judas/jesus and the miracles on the cross? Have u forgotten that God can do whatever he wishes, Did u know the miracles of God on how u re born?. Kept on wondering about that until death catch up on u(not wishing u death oooo)just a warning for your soul and not u.
Did u know that if God wanna handle your case u can start speaking ghana without being there?

Dear you have not answered my quaetion i will like you to read it carefully agian no sentiment

1.) God has given us liberty as men to make choices he will never at any time take that away from us not even Judas. there are some demand God as placed on you it is a choice to get it done . we remein a free moral agent.
2.)really one thing lead to another i suppose u understand the quaranic account of the death of judas better . so my question is what did he do in according to the quaran that warrant is death or were the soldiers also hypnotised by God also
3.) is it possibble for him to talk on the cross to a God he never knew.

i will like you to give me answer according to each of this qeustions
Thanks

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well Islam cliamed that Jesus never died that he was taken up. the person that was truly crucified according to the quaran was Judas. ok!!
how it hapeened was that God super impose the features of jesus on Judas there and then was mistaken for Jesus, later crucified all according to the quaran

But with all due repsect for islam i stand to defer for some logical reasons:

If judas was crucified as Jesus then Jesus must have indeed commited a crime . does the quaran give the crime he commited

if truly there was a face off Judas still maintianed his consciousness he could have easily refuted the cliams that got Jesus in trouble and saved is neck but this did not happen.

From background Judas was a bad greedy man. how coulod thesame judas crucified on the cross utter those seven word on the cross.

if you were judas and you find yourself in that situation what will you do i bet you will leave everboy in no doubt about who you are in words and in action

please i will need some good answer from all christain antagonist
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ure deceived already and i wont blame those that hijacked u cos u were very weak as a muslim and u know nothing about ISLAM, i still dnt get the cross thing ure saying, or ure believing jesus died? oh dear u were never a muslima cos we muslim believe in jesus as aprophet and not as God and never came to die for your sins, ah st paul ti gba gbogbo yin and hes really leading souls to hell, i tell u, u berra repent and turn to ALLAH

na waaaooo

abuzola have ever had a personla relationship or experience God's love

Re: Jesus Said
« #96 on: Today at 12:24:59 PM »

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well Islam cliamed that Jesus never died that he was taken up. the person that was truly crucified according to the quaran was Judas. ok!!
how it hapeened was that God super impose the features of jesus on Judas there and then was mistaken for Jesus, later crucified all according to the quaran

But with all due repsect for islam i stand to defer for some logical reasons:

If judas was crucified as Jesus then Jesus must have indeed commited a crime . does the quaran give the crime he commited

if truly there was a face off Judas still maintianed his consciousness he could have easily refuted the cliams that got Jesus in trouble and saved is neck but this did not happen.

From background Judas was a bad greedy man. how coulod thesame judas crucified on the cross utter those seven word on the cross.

if you were judas and you find yourself in that situation what will you do i bet you will leave everboy in no doubt about who you are in words and in action

please i will need some good answer from all christain antagonist

no, no answers yet
just some cliam about judas crucifixion according to the quaran

can you please explain my question from an islamic point of view all ye active islamic participant

from your claim since you said satan= jesus. y dont you accept him then and acknowledge is good works for u since it will not make any difference

well Islam cliamed that Jesus never died that he was taken up. the person that was truly crucified according to the quaran was Judas. ok!!
how it hapeened was that God super impose the features of jesus on Judas there and then was mistaken for Jesus, later crucified all according to the quaran

But with all due repsect for islam i stand to defer for some logical reasons:

If judas was crucified as Jesus then Jesus must have indeed commited a crime . does the quaran give the crime he commited

if truly there was a face off Judas still maintianed his consciousness he could have easily refuted the cliams that got Jesus in trouble and saved is neck but this did not happen.

From background Judas was a bad greedy man. how coulod thesame judas crucified on the cross utter those seven word on the cross.

if you were judas and you find yourself in that situation what will you do i bet you will leave everboy in no doubt about who you are in words and in action

please i will need some good answer from all christain antagonist

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Do you no that the Pharises and the teacher of the Law killed jesus for calling Himself or equating Himself with God
this is exctactly what we do when we try to reason God out
we say there is nothing that God can not do yet we deny he can exsist as a man *(Jesus)
if it was so much a lie will his disciple who witness is resurection have died for a lie the answer is NO!!!!
only Jesus dared to call Himself God and nothing happened ask Herod and Nebuchadinezzar who came close they suffer one wrath or the other froom God But not with Jesus

You need to Believe to see the Truth
Shalom

the title says from muslim to another religion

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Philosophical Proofs on the Existence of God

"If you remain in my word, you will truly be my disciples, and you will know the truth and the truth shall set you free"

—Gospel according to St. John 8:31-32

The truths of Christianity lead us to salvation and light. We have the Word of God to present the truth to those who walk in darkness, so that they too may be set free. But often in our materialistic, skeptic modern world it is difficult to preach the gospel to those who are blinded by pride of intellect or resistance to a change of heart. Many people honestly do not believe in a God, and will of course reject Sacred Scripture and Church Tradition. All Christians should be well versed in the teachings of Christ and his Church, but it also helps to be familiar with the theological and philosophical writings of members of the Church. Many of the treatises of theologians and Christian philosophers can shed much light on the existence of God, the problem of evil and other objections raised by modern unbelievers.

A brief philosophical introduction to intellectual arguments regarding the existence of God can help in disseminating the truth and presenting Christianity as a rational religion and way of life to others. Here, we will focus on three famous arguments regarding God’s existence: the ontological argument, cosmological argument and teleological argument. These proofs have been endlessly debated over the centuries between various philosophers and theologians. I will present these classic proofs and leave it to the reader to judge their accuracy and logical cohesion.

St. Anselm’s Ontological Argument

St. Anselm, the Catholic archbishop of Canterbury and a Doctor of the Church, first formulated the Ontological Argument. This philosophical argument is perhaps the strangest and most hotly debated of the proofs. The argument has attracted the attentions of such notable philosophers as Immanuel Kant (who attacked St. Anselm’s proof) and G.W.F Hegel (who defended Anselm’s proof).

The proof is most notable because it alone claims to prove the existence of God by relying independently on human reason without the need for perception or evidence. The proof itself relies on the defined concept of God as a perfect being. St. Anselm’s proof is summarized here:

God exists in our understanding. This means that the concept of God resides as an idea in our minds.
God is a possible being, and might exist in reality. He is possible because the concept of God does not bear internal contradictions.
If something exists exclusively in our understanding and might have existed in reality then it might have been greater. This simply means that something that exists in reality is perfect (or great). Something that is only a concept in our minds could be greater by actually existing.
Suppose (theoretically) that God only exists in our understanding and not in reality.
If this were true, then it would be possible for God to be greater then he is (follows from premise #3).
This would mean that God is a being in which a greater is possible.
This is absurd because God, a being in which none greater is possible, is a being in which a greater is possible. Herein lies the contradiction.
Thus it follows that it is false for God to only exist in our understanding.
Hence God exists in reality as well as our understanding.
Study the above proof carefully. It is an intriguing proof because it states that God, a perfect being, must exist in all possible circumstances in order to satisfy the definition of his perfection. A God that can exist in only some circumstances, but fails to exist in others is a less than perfect being.

St. Thomas Aquinas’ Cosmological Argument

The great Catholic thinker, philosopher and theologian St. Thomas Aquinas summarized his cosmological argument in the Summa Theologia. In this theological masterpiece, St. Thomas writes five "ways" that we can know God exists. His first three ways deal with the cosmological argument:

St. Aquinas argues that there are things in the world in motion (this simply means that things are changing) and that whatever is in motion must have been put in motion by another thing in motion. Aquinas holds that, "whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another," and that, "this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover." Hence St. Thomas argues that in order to eliminate the infinite chain of motions, there must be a first mover and source of all motion, God.
The second way is very similar to the first. It argues that," In the world of sense we find there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known (neither is it, indeed, possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for so it would be prior to itself, which is impossible." By this he means that any thing, circumstance or event cannot change itself, but can only change something else (concept of efficient cause). Since there is a string of causes in which the string cannot be infinite (see premise #1), then all causes must attribute themselves to a first cause: God.
The third way also argues using the notion of a chain of causes. St. Thomas notes that things in our world owe their existence to something else in the world. Aquinas calls this the way of "possibility and necessity," meaning that all things made possible, necessarily attribute their existence to some pre-existing thing. Only God can be the source of all things since he is a being having its own necessity and does not need a pre-existing thing to cause him to exist. All things existing can trace themselves in a chain back to God.
A second shorter version of the cosmological argument can be formulated as:

Every being (that exists or ever did exist) is either a dependent being or a self-existent being.
Not every being can be a dependent being.
So there exists a self-existent being.
Finally, a third rendition of the cosmological argument (extracted from the book Philosophy for Dummies by Dr. Tom Morris):

1. The existence of something is intelligible only if it has an explanation.
2. The existence of the universe is thus either:
a. unintelligible or
b. has an explanation
3. No rational person should accept premise (2a) by definition of rationality
4. A rational person should accept (2b), that the universe has some explanation for its being.
5. There are only three kinds of explanations:
a. Scientific: physical conditions plus relevant laws yield the Event explained.
b. Personal: Explanations that cite desires, beliefs, powers and intentions of some personal agent.
c. Essential: The essence of the thing to be explained necessitates its existence or qualities (for example, if you ask why a triangle has 3 sides, I would respond that it is the essence and necessity for a triangle to have 3 sides by its definition.
6. The explanation for the existence of the whole universe can’t be scientific because there can’t be initial physical conditions and laws independent of what is to be explained. Event the Big Bang theory fails to explain the existence of the universe because modern science cannot explain where the original Big Bang singularity came from. The universe as a sum total of all natural conditions and laws cannot be explained unless we have an Archimidean reference point outside the system.
7. The explanation for the existence of the universe can’t be essential because the universe cannot exist necessarily. This is because, it could have been possible for the universe not to have existed (if the Big Bang had been slightly different it is possible for large-scale structures to not have existed). Thus the universe is not something the must necessarily or essentially exists.
8. Thus a rational person should believe that the universe has a personal explanation.
9. No personal agent but God could create the entire universe.
10. A rational person should believe that there is a God.


The Teleological Argument

The teleological argument, or argument from design, is also summarized by St. Thomas Aquinas in the Summa Theologica. Here is the extract from the Summa:

"The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things that lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God."

Perhaps this is the most common form of reasoning behind the existence of God. The average theist will argue for the existence of God with the teleological argument.

Conclusion

Of course, these three proofs have their share of proponents and opponents. The proofs do not definitively prove the existence of God because they can be argued. Even the greatest truth can be masked behind a veil of innocent ignorance or blindness of pride. It is faith that provides the bedrock for belief in God and the cornerstone for ultimate happiness. Nevertheless, these three proofs can help show that Christianity is a rational religion, as well as an endlessly controversial one.

if you truly want to switch easy declare jesus as your lord and personal saviour. Go for menthorship in an bible believing church i bet your life will never be desame again.

that is heroic