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RomanceRe: Dealing With Demons In The Private Part.... by Martinez19(m): 12:39am On Apr 17, 2018
QueenSuccubus:
grin


When ur drunk of OLOMO BITTERS, u can say all impossible things...
Religion is like opium. It makes you high like the op.
Christianity EtcRe: Congrats Atheists, You're Almost There. by Martinez19(m): 12:01am On Apr 17, 2018
pressplay411:
Are you an atheist?
Yes.
Christianity EtcRe: Congrats Atheists, You're Almost There. by Martinez19(m): 11:14pm On Apr 16, 2018
purem:
This is one of the most senseless post have ever seen in long time

This confused OP is just beating around the bush

Please take a sec and ask yourself is there any logical fact on this poo you posted up there?
the op is just a confused fellow. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Demonic Mind Programing/mk Ultra Any Help by Martinez19(m): 8:15pm On Apr 16, 2018
grin

Christianity EtcRe: Who's Deceiving Who? Athiests Are Afraid Of Armrobbers, But Not God/hellfire. by Martinez19(m):
Lol. Arm robbers exist and would kill you but Yahweh doesn't exist, why fear him?
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Tire Of Religion And Argument by Martinez19(m): 2:55pm On Apr 16, 2018
grin you go wait tire. grin

RomanceRe: What Does It Mean When A Girl Calls You "Dear"?? by Martinez19(m): 4:27am On Apr 16, 2018
hibiscus76:
don't listen to all these critics.
You wouldn't have created this thread if you don't, at some point like her too. If you weren't comfortable with her closeness you'd have told her off but you haven't and honestly you don't even want to.
My honest advice OP, allow her to express herself and watch how everything unfolds.
You might just get entangled in her web of love and end up loving her too.. So, why not?
to a lady that has sense

Christianity EtcRe: Evolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 4:23am On Apr 16, 2018
danvon:
"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
Isaiah:40:22
grin

Christianity EtcRe: Evolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 3:52am On Apr 16, 2018
Butterflyleo:
The Scripture makes it quite clear that the Earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22)

The word translated “corners,” as in the phrase above, is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.

It is translated “borders” in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated “four corners” and again in Isaiah 11:12 “four corners.” Job 37:3 and 38:13 as “ends.”

The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four direction or cardinal points.

Ignorance makes people like you say all manner of nonsense
Only two dimensional circle or map is divided into four. In three dimensions, we talk about a sphere or space, which is not divided into four quadrant but eight octants. Why uses quadrants for a three dimensional earth? Besides the Hebrew language is sufficient to describe the shape of the earth without being mistaken on what it means. If it can give the complex description it gave to Ezekiel's vision why can't it handle the description of the earth?
Christianity EtcRe: Evolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 3:35am On Apr 16, 2018
danvon:
Very few people believed the earth had four corners the science expedition of Columbus and Magellan was funded by the Church, evolution is pure rubbish
Ah! The bible already said the earth had four corners and even pillars grin.
Christianity EtcRe: Evolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 10:08pm On Apr 15, 2018
Butterflyleo:
The Scripture makes it quite clear that the Earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22)

The word translated “corners,” as in the phrase above, is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.

It is translated “borders” in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated “four corners” and again in Isaiah 11:12 “four corners.” Job 37:3 and 38:13 as “ends.”

The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four direction or cardinal points.

Ignorance makes people like you say all manner of nonsense
na so. If the bible writers really meant round, it would have been translated round. The language from which the old testament was translated had sufficient wordings so that such simple description wouldn't have been misinterpreted.

If kanaph simply meant extremity, where did number "four" come from if they didn't meant to say four corners?
Christianity EtcRe: Evolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 9:40pm On Apr 15, 2018
Tozara, ladyhippolyta88, Lightblazingnow, jiggaz
Christianity EtcEvolution And Christianity. Hold It Right There! by Martinez19(op): 9:34pm On Apr 15, 2018
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Each time there is a scientific breakthrough, especially in topics that deals with the age of our universe, origin, genetics or evolution, we see organised religions trying to incorporate these facts into their holy books. They have to reconcile scientific facts with their holy book because they have to show that it is consistent with reality.

Some christians don't buy into evolution while some dubiously buy into it and say Yahweh used evolution. If you are a christian that believes the bible supports evolution, how can you explain that evolution supports the idea that man was molded from soil and started living when Yahweh gave him the breath of life? you are definitely not serious if think that the bible and evolution are compatible.

A book says man was molded from soil and started living when Yahweh gave him the breath of life and you tell me this book supports evolution? You are not serious.

HopefulLandlord, butterflylion aka felixomor aka butterflyl1on aka butterflyleo grin, hahn, HardMirror, 1Sharon, Johnydon22, 1Sharon, proudgorgeousga, segunojo866, 0temAtum, catfishbilly, dalaman aka dalamama aka dalam0n, darkchild, frank317

Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:12pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
I.am glad you have seen your dishonesty
grin

Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:11pm On Apr 14, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
smiley



smiley cheesy

No one can describe beyond conventional wisdom how "God" created the universe

Nevertheless, God created the universe
just like how, Bill Gates, created the world's largest software business, Microsoft, using a combination of knowledge and method

smiley cheesy
grin

Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 11:02pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Show me where I distorted them? Did you not speak from both sides of your mouth?
good bye. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:52pm On Apr 14, 2018
frank317:
U confidently make this statement but funny enough when comes to the creator which u have never seen before u make an exception.
He is a joker
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:51pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Why are you lying?

You cannot argue from both sides of your mouth over one thing. You cannot talk about the big bang with me and then turn around to present an eternal universe to vaxx even if vaxx was thinking along those lines. You are meant to stick with your argument. It shows you are being intellectually dishonest and do not even know anything you are presenting but simply wish to just type.

There is an uncaused cause and a very intelligent one at that because infinite regression is nullified scientifically when it comes to the origin of the universe and even you support that the universe has an origin since you say you believe in the big bang.

Did this beginning of the universe trigger itself? NO

How do I know this? The law of cause and effect confirms it. There can be no cause without effect and no effect without a cause. Unintelligence cannot birth intelligence. Inanimate objects cannot create motion, sequence, order, calculated actions.

Deny this and deny science.
I am not intellectually dishonest, you are. I admit, even before vaxx, that I believe the big bang. You distort arguments so much. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:32pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Is their no atheist who can refute the OP? grin
I refuted your first proof using the knowledge of gravity. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
You do not even realise how intellectually dishonest you have been with your arguments. With me you talk about a big bang which in itself talks about a beginning of the universe. With vaxx you talk about an eternal universe. Why not stand on one ground instead of jumping back and forth like a confused human.

If you say the big bang has been proven then explain why other scientists are still pushing for the eternal universe hypothesis aka the multiverse hypothesis?

Shouldn't the entire scientific world agree that this has been proven?
I stand by the big bang. My discussion with vaxx was me trying to point out that since vaxx doesn't believe infinite regression then to him there must be an uncaused caused who either came out of nothing or has always been there from the beginning. If he has no problem believing that, will he have a problem believing that the universe is the uncaused cause?

Mtewwwwwww
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:05pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Lmao proven? When? By who?

From what I know, the only evidence we have for what is termed the Big Bang is the Cosmic Microwave Background radiation which scientists say showed up around 300,000 years after the hypthesised Big Bang happened.

Apart from this, is there any other evidence you have for the big bang beyond a hypothesised model?

grin
SMH.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 9:44pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Yet Science calls the big bang A HYPOTHESIS . But somehow you know it isn't s a fact grin cheesy
The big bang is no longer an hypothesis. It's now been proven.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 9:19pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Science faults you again because the universe isn't eternal and has been known to have a beginning. True or false
I know everything started with the big bang.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 9:17pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
When did you refute anyone. You simply focused on the 3rd and that you did with all levels of scientific ignorance. Yet you claim you refuted? Lmao. Even the person you claimed refuted the second also displayed scientific ignorance.

Is the big bang a scientific fact? Yes or no
Show me my scientific ignorance and I will give my life to christ. Everything I said is backed up by scientific evidence and proof.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 9:14pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
You lack any scientific knowledge and are just saying rubbish. Space does not have a curve. It is simply inhomogeneous. We plot space as a curve but in reality it isn't. Cause and effect still stands.

No gravitational force known to man can trigger the first effect if there was no cause.
grin grin grin Is it that you don't read or what? grin I never said space had curve. I said spacet curves, distorts and stretches in the presence of matter and energy and THERE ARE TONS OF SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND PROOFS TO SUPPORT THIS and this is why Einstein is a big name in science. Remember I told you that it takes massive matter to bend space significantly. This is science and if doubt it, prove me wrong on this theory of general relativity. If you do, I will give my life to christ.

Awww, sorry if I make you faith shake a little. It's discomforting and anxiety causing grin

Christianity EtcRe: Forget Personal Beliefs And Sentiments, Let Us Discuss The Existence Of God by Martinez19(m): 9:04pm On Apr 14, 2018
Is there a God or not? I know not. However if anyone, for whatever reason, believes in a creator being, he or she can only go as far as saying "I believe in a creator being." nothing more nothing less. Such can't say that he/she knows this creator, it's will, it's rules, it's name, how it created the universe and where we are going. That knowledge is beyond any human at this point and it would be baffling to state that authoritatively.

If there happens to be a God, it certainly :
1) isn't perfect but might be why sophisticated, efficient and intelligent beyond our standard.
2) isn't interested in humanity's affair.
3) isn't interested in revealing itself.

Sorry if my answer has not be definite. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 8:33pm On Apr 14, 2018
vaxx:
that means you are postulating the universe has a mind of his own?
if you say infinite regression is impossible, it means there must be an uncaused cause that either came out of nothing or has been since the beginning. What if I tell you that the universe is that uncaused cause? After all, you conceived that an uncaused cause can exist.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 7:20pm On Apr 14, 2018
vaxx:
i think we already settle this matter, infinite regression is philosophically and scientifically impossible. for example, imagine yourself to be a car driver ready to start a car, but before you start you have to ask permission from another driver behind you, but he has to do the same, and it goes on for infinity. Will you ever drive? If you do drive please explain how?
But Mr butterfly said everything has a cause. If so yahweh must have a cause. If infinite regression is impossible and we say our universe is the beginning of that a finite regression, what problem would you have with that?
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 6:45pm On Apr 14, 2018
vaxx:
will any atheist scientifically debunked the argument? i am here to learn
I did refute the first one and someone else refuted the second. I would create a topic very soon because of this topic.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 6:06pm On Apr 14, 2018
Dalam0n:
So these are the proofs to show that Yahweh exist abi? This hot tripe also serve as proof that a dead Jewish man that lived over 2000 years ago whose stories we read about him claiming to be God and his son at the same time abi? Well done.
Don't mind him. These arguments can be used by those of other religion.
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 5:36pm On Apr 14, 2018
Butterflyleo don leave we atheists disappear. grin

Christianity EtcRe: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m):
Butterflyleo:
Wrong again. Matter is massive everywhere. Space being what it is, just a large expanse of space cannot generate any motion on its own regardless of distortion, curvature and stretching of spacetime. We have a lot of bodies much smaller than the earth so why does the massive matter relative to them not cause them to begin motion on their own?

Plus, why the specific speed of 30km/sec. Why not more, why not less? Why not even fluctuating?
Nothing I have said goes contrary to scientific evidence and proof. You lack understanding of gravity. Not all bodies can curve, stretch and distort space to a great extent like sun or the earth. The greater the mass the greater the curvature of spacetime and besides, it takes great matter to distort space significantly. The reason why you don't see objects on earth spinning around some objects is because the earth's gravitational influence far, and I far, surpasses any gravitational influence that any two bodies on earth could have on each other. So, all objects on earth obeys the earth's gravitational influence.

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