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WeirdAlien:
The owner of life says return them back to me. So?

What a loving and merciful god.

Church means Circus.


https://www.nairaland.com/7765723/before-go-circus

Triplechoice, etymology is sweet.

Theos is to Greek gods, Netjer is to Egyptian gods, Orisa is to Yoruba gods.

Atheism comes from Greek Atheos.
Theism from Theos.
Theos refers to Greek gods.
Theology, Theogony, Theosophy, Theophany, Theokotos etc.

In brief, "theoi" (gods) is ultimately derived from the verb "theo", it could mean or be related to:
-to run
-to shine
-to put, place, set

theos and deus are cognates and mean same thing


Triplechoice and Workch.

https://oxfordre.com/classics/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780199381135.001.0001/acrefore-9780199381135-e-6379;jsessionid=8EB7459628295D53B10BBFB0839725D4

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/theo

elated177:
Maynman, you are the illiterate.

It’s evident who the illiterate is.

You know better than a hebrew scholar because you read 66 books call bible.
This is not even about your religion, this is just language illiteracy.
Like elated177 like yahweh 😂

The concept of worshipping a thing started when proper burying of humans began, which eventually led to veneration of tumulus and barrows.
For extra references look up history of “wake keeping”.

The ancient Egyptians used the term "netjer" to describe beings known as gods. This term could also be applied to the Egyptian king, certain living animals, and deceased individuals or animals.

There were various ways to attain "netjer" (godship). In addition to the chaos gods mentioned earlier, another way was through rituals. These rituals fell into two categories: those who became netjers while still alive and those who attained netjer status after death.

In the first category were the king of Egypt and certain sacred animals. The second category included beings who underwent a ritual after death, transforming them into netjers. The funerary ritual had the effect of elevating every deceased Egyptian into an "akh,", who received offerings of food and drink from their family members. Particularly significant individuals might gain a prominent cult following after their deaths and receive offerings not only from their family but also from other people.

When agnostics wants to claim lack of knowledge, they should first learn what “god” means and know if it has the ability to exist beyond the books they were written on, the same way spiderman does not have the ability to exist beyond the comics.

Triplechoice and workch.

There is no religion creation story that involves only one god creating everything from scratch.

Christians use concepts like "most high" and "almighty," but these terms merely imply a pantheon where their god is considered the highest or mightiest among other gods.

In Greek, "most high" is translated as "Hypsistos," which was used to refer to the head of a pantheon, such as Zeus.
"Almighty" in Greek means "Pantokrator," formed from the words "pan" meaning "all" and "kratos" meaning "strength," "might," or "power."
Yes that Kratos

In Ancient Greece, pankration was an unarmed combat sport introduced into the Greek Olympic Games. It was said that the heroes Heracles and Theseus invented pankration by combining wrestling and boxing in their confrontations with opponents.
The winner of this bloody contest is crowned the pantokrator, the god of war.

All mythologies, if you want to sugarcoat it, can also be referred to as "religion."
They all started as a Pantheon. There is no religion creation story that involves only one god creating everything from scratch.

According to Hesiod's book, chaos is the origin of everything - the creation of the universe.
"Verily at the first Chaos came to be,
but next wide-bosomed Earth,
the ever-sure foundation of all."
Chaos then gave birth to the first Greek gods.


The Jewish creation story shares similarities not only with Greek mythology but also with Egyptian, Mesopotamian, cannanites and almost all mythologies.
It involves an earth (not planet Earth) described as "formless and void," darkness, the deep (referred to as the primeval sea), and the spirit of Elohim.

Similarly, in Egyptian texts, four deities are often referred to as "the chaos gods":

Nu, known as the watery one and considered the father of the gods.
Huh, associated with infinity or boundlessness.
Kuk, representing darkness.
Amun, the god of wind, whose name signifies hiddenness.


Read Genesis 1:2-3 In this context.
Nun represents "the deep."
Huh represents "the earth that is formless and void."
Kuk represents "darkness."
Amun represents "spirit" or "wind."

We all know that Romans are very religious, and they worship a pantheon of gods. The Greek word, pantheion, comes from pan- (all) and theos (god).

However, everything the Romans know about their gods comes from the Theogony book written by Hesiod, just like everything Christians, Muslims, or Hindus know about their various gods comes from a book.
In essence, what I am saying is that all the feats, characteristics, properties, or powers of any Greek god were given to them by this poet. All the "supernatural" power, omniscience, and omnipresent, etc, are just qualities that a poet was giving to his characters.

Now, you may say that Greek gods are considered mythologies today, but in Ancient Greece, these gods were worshipped as real, and “miracles” were performed in their name. Besides, Zeus and his pantheon have been worshipped more than any modern monotheistic god concept, i.e., Yahweh and Allah.
https://www.theoi.com/Text/HesiodTheogony.html

Workch:
he argues off point, makes the whole argument tiring and directionless. That's why I ignore him

When you understand what “god” means, then you will see the foolishness in agnosticism.

God and devil is a title not a person.

If you look up the origin of the word devil(daeva) and divine it comes from the same root word.
In other words devil and god mean same thing, for a story to be sweet you need a protagonist and antagonist.

Triplechoice make you dey learn.

triplechoice:
Goodday

If you look up the word “chaos” it means disorder, but that exact meaning is from someone’s perspective, it wasn’t because of usage.

In his work “Metamorphoses,” Ovid proclaimed that chaos was not a void, a chasm, or empty space as its original Greek meaning suggested. Instead, he described it as a disorganized mass.

The word didn’t “evolve”, it was someone opinion that you are gobbling.
If you want to know what chaos TRULY means. Look up the origin of the word.

triplechoice:
abrahamic religion.

When it comes to religion matter, you are little.
Christianity and islam is from Judaism, Judaism is from yahwism, yahwism also gave rise to Samaritanism.

Judaism was influenced by Zootranism. Zoostranism and Hinduism from the same root.

I didn’t become an atheist because i was without knowledge.

Look up zeus, a greek god.
What’s the origin of the word zeus, does it take you back to sanskirt, as in vedic, as in Hinduism lol.
Do you now know what “greek gods” mean?

triplechoice:
No . We are not talking that.

you talking to yourself.

I have left you.

Goodday

Yes, we are talking about the English word “god” that an agnostic does not know if it exist or not.

What qualifies a thing to be a “god”?
Some people god is a stone or tree, does a tree not exist?

You are ignorant.

Stop displaying your barreness.

Once again, what do you understand by “greek gods”?

triplechoice:
We are concerned with its current meaning.

If we were discussing its origin then you're on track, but now you're very off it.

We are talking about the origin of gods.
Not current meaning of “god”.

The worship of gods didn’t start yesterday, you are confused!

triplechoice:
What does the word, theist currently describe by those using it ?

Ask those using it.

The original meaning of the word “theist” still remains in greek.
And it is still on Wikipedia and any etymology site.

triplechoice:
They evolved through usage .

Through usage of who?
Christians?

triplechoice:
I said the idea of word evolving from its original is unknown to you hence your recourse to antiquity.

Borrowed from where?
If we want to know what theism means, should we not go to where it was borrowed into English?

We should continue to be without knowledge and call ourselves “agnostic”?

triplechoice:
Do you know what it means when everyone in the world agrees to the same thing, but only you disagrees with it.

Just rest. You're no longer making sense and have deflected from the main thing into irrelevancies

Ignorance, the word theist is not an English word, ask a greek person what “atheos” mean.

Because you lost the meaning of word in English, does not mean the meaning of the words as used by those that owns it is wrong.

It is you that should rest with your barreness, you don’t even know what “greek gods” mean.

triplechoice:
The errors are always detected and corrected. The definition for theist in dictionaries still remain the same after several updates.

So what are you talking about? We should go back to antiquity with you? You're not serious

If the errors are always detected and corrected how come words evolve away from their original use?

We are talking about words that originated in Ancient Greece but you want us to use current dictionary to explain it
You are confused.

triplechoice:
Just show me a current dictionary where a theist is described only has a person who worship Greek gods, or swallow your pride.

First off, what do you understand by greek gods?
Have you ever heard of Epics?

Stop displaying your ignorance.

triplechoice:
Your comments are shocking and very disturbing to read.

It is shocking For ignorant people like you, we are talking about history of gods, it’s not found in a “current dictionary.”

You are without knowledge indeed.

triplechoice:
You don't know what it means to appeal to ignorance.

You're the ignorant one who doesn't know that the meaning of a word can evolve from its original meaning and because of that produced something that reeks of crass ignorance

Just show me a current dictionary where a theist is described only has a person who worship Greek gods, or swallow your pride.


Your comments are shocking and very disturbing to read.

You don’t even know what “god” mran but you are sha “neutral” 😂

You are the empty one, hear yourself, how can meaning of a word evolve from the ORIGINAL MEANING?

The concept we are talking about didn’t start yesterday. We are talking HISTORY!
This is stark foolishness.

Show me a dictionary that talks on etymology of words, you are empty and it will be the exposed!

Barren thing!

elated177:
Yahushua ----- YAH's Salvation.

Illiteracy.

triplechoice:
The meaning of a word can evolve from usage and thats why dictionaries are updated all the time.

we are talking about concepts that was developed centuries ago, but you want us to use modern dictionary to understand what ancient cultures did?

All these barren people.

triplechoice:
Tell me you that know it all.

Yes, i am gnostic, i am not agnostic like you.

If you want knowledge on how the concept of god was created, i can tutor you.

triplechoice:
Modified. Yes, agnostics don't know much about what God really refers to in religion . There thousands of God claims and descriptions. So by what means can he use to judge every single one of them?

Agnostics are dullards that don’t know what “religion” or “gods” mean yet they are neutral?
How can you be neutral to ignorance?

triplechoice:
There are lots of words in English language or elsewhere that are no longer connected to their origin. You're obviously oblivious to this fact hence your recourse to antiquity.

I don’t understand; we should no longer use the original meaning of words so we can better understand what it means and how we should use it?
I should not result to history(antiquity), I should be without knowledge like you?

This is appealing to ignorance.

triplechoice:
So every theist around you, Christians and Muslims especially, are worshipping Greek gods?

What is the name of the gods that Christians and Muslims are worshipping?

triplechoice:
Theist are those who worship Greek gods? Lol

What do you understand by greek gods?
Keep exposing your ignorance lol

triplechoice:
You're generalizing because your atheism is founded on the two popular abrahamic religion.

You're clueless about the others

You are ignorant!
What do you even understand by “religion”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio
Learn!

What is the religion before abraham?

FromZeroToHero:
Finally, FIFA should deduct the three points and give it to Australia. It is unacceptable! We cannot accept what Oshoala did! Islam is a religion of peace and holiness and Oshoala's actions after her goal did not represent our beliefs in an international event such as the World Cup. Oshoala must apologize to us.

The team got 3 points not her.