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Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 4:19am On Nov 28, 2023

budaatum:
I have read them. Again.

So why do you think Jesus asked Judas to deliver him?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 9:06pm On Nov 27, 2023

budaatum:
Post the links here in order so I can be certain I read them.

https://www.nairaland.com/7888378/other-disciple-whom-jesus-loved

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 8:52pm On Nov 27, 2023

budaatum:
I think it is very obvious that Christ meant King of the Jews to some. Or don't we read it was stuck to his forehead?

I feel I'm missing your point.

The Judas link I sent as the disciple whom Jesus love, have you read it?
Jesus was a Nazarene/zealot.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 8:37pm On Nov 27, 2023

budaatum:
"Crucify him! Crucify him!" They yelled.

I'm afraid I don't see your point.

I want you to know that in the gospel context, Christ means King of the Jews, which will come from Bethlehem

Check Luke 22:67, that's the first offence.
Luke 22:70, is the second offence.

Check john 18:40.
That Barabbas literally means Son of the father. His other name is jesus.
Jesus king of the Jews and Jesus son of the father are one and the same.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 8:28pm On Nov 27, 2023

budaatum:
I have issues with the following:

It is my opinion that the various stories in the 'gospels' were verbally narrated amongst a small group of people then later complied into what we have today and we're not written by anyone person.

"An eyewitness has testified, and his testimony is true; he knows* that he is speaking the truth, so that you also may [come to] believe", does not work on non-believing buda.

The 'gospel' there is is the Anglo-Saxon translation of the Greek word "Euangelion." The Greek term was employed to interpret the Aramaic "awon-Galee-Yoon," which conveys the meaning of "He reveals."

There might have been a Jesus, in the gospel story, someone was released in place of Jesus. This person name is Barnabas, which means son of the father, his other name is Jesus.
That's, Jesus Barnabas.
The Pharisees nailed Jesus with 2 offenses but only one sticked.
They called him king of Jews which means Christ.
And Barnabas, Son of the Father.
The Jews killed Christ but saved Barnabas. It's a wordplay by the gospel authors

Christianity Etc › Re: Logia Or Gospel? by Maynman(op): 8:14pm On Nov 27, 2023

https://www.nairaland.com/7919031/thirty-shekels-silver

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 7:53pm On Nov 27, 2023

budaatum:
Terrorist!

Need your input on this and tell me what's wrong.

https://www.nairaland.com/7888378/other-disciple-whom-jesus-loved

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 7:23pm On Nov 27, 2023

Image123:
After death is judgment, duh.

Mental psychosis.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How True Is This Claim (photos) by Maynman: 6:54pm On Nov 27, 2023

Apparently, atheists are not allowed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 9:00am On Nov 26, 2023

Aemmyjah:
Which he has

Yahweh?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Terrorism Ever End? by Maynman: 3:59am On Nov 26, 2023

Only an omniscience god can answer wink

Christianity Etc › Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 3:01pm On Nov 25, 2023

SIRTee15:
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Which cup did the The sons of Zebedee ask of, and which cup did they drink?
And they the same 2 robbers that was crucified beside Jesus, left and right?

Paulism. ..

Christianity Etc › Re: ******************************** by Maynman: 2:57pm On Nov 25, 2023

SIRTee15:
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It's getting clearer now.
This is the list of pagans that converted to "Christianity".
The worship of Serapis was prevalent in Antioch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Christianity_from_paganism

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Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 9:18pm On Nov 23, 2023

Dustbinbint:
Now what's the chance that he is right and just about every translator and scholar are wrong? Evidently he called upon you because you have a similar pattern of reasoning—you and all the others he called to support his post.

Can you show me the scholars and translators that says otherwise?

I called upon them to tutor you on your pseudo science.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 9:16pm On Nov 23, 2023

Dustbinbint:
Replying to these things one after the other will take too much of my time.

Only the ribs regrows when “removed.” Did you see “fractured”? Did I mention the growth and healing of a fracture?
You conveniently mention only those things you can pick on, and that is why this is the only content I will reply to.

Apologetics like you are very dangerous and brain dead, you'll argue whatever to defend your delusion.
Hope you know the verse about the rib in Hebrew is "Tsela" and it means the side of something, Adam was created male and female.

Christianity Etc › Re: The "Other Disciple" Whom Jesus Loved. by Maynman(op): 7:07pm On Nov 22, 2023

https://www.nairaland.com/7919031/thirty-shekels-silver

Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 6:31pm On Nov 22, 2023*

Dustbinbint:
Now, if Judas did not die, why did the Pharisees call the money he refunded them “the price of BLOOD” and why did they use it to buy a BURIAL PLACE for strangers and name it “Field of BLOOD?”—Matthew 27:6-8.

Matthew 27:4-- Judas, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the "innocent BLOOD".

And the other one has already been explained, but I'm not sure you read anything. In Matthew 27:9, who was the author mimicking?
Field of blood is same thing with potter's field.

Matthew and Acts even contradicts themselves, was Judas buried or did he die in this potter's field?
In Matthew he went and hanged himself immediately before they bought the Land or was he still around?
In Acts he was the one that bought the field and killed himself there.

There's only a contradiction if you don't know what it really says, which I've explained in the article.

Start from here
https://www.nairaland.com/7888378/other-disciple-whom-jesus-loved

And was new testament not written in Greek?

Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 6:24pm On Nov 22, 2023*

Dustbinbint:
(1) The bones are the only part of the human body that is made up wholly of living cells, and that contains the stem cells which gives rise to blood cells, skin cells, and all the other cells of the body.
(2) The ribs are the only bones that regrows after being removed.

In view of the above, it is in complete harmony with proved science that Jehovah made Eve from Adam's ribs—even surgeons use the ribs in reconstructive surgeries, for instance. Moreover, surgeons anesthesize their patients before operating on them just as God put Adam into a deep sleep before using his ribs in a “constructive surgery” of sorts. He didn't need to infuse the breath of life into Eve since she was made out of an already living tissue, one that had everything needed to produce all the cells in a living human.

It is not scientifically unsound at all. The effects of eating the fruit of that tree was very real. An immediate change was sensed by them, but was really an outward manifestation of a deeper change that had occurred in them both, just like a deep-seated illness has its symptoms.
Also, their sin became like a genetic defect passed down their generations, thus affecting all humans on a fundamental level.

I really do not know why I am replying to you at all. I reprove myself here because I have other more important things to do I believe.

jaephoenix
Budaatum
Lordreed

Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 3:05pm On Nov 22, 2023*

Dustbinbint:
The content is not only self-contradictory, but also makes no sense when compared with the Topic.

I'll appreciate if you Could point out the contradictory part.

I'm just surprised how you now know what's contradictory or not yet you believe in a literal Adam and eve responsible for original sin?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 12:57pm On Nov 22, 2023

HeatSeeker:
Heresies

Lol, go look up the history and how predominantly it was used, then you'll better know the view of early Christianity before Catholic hijacked it and termed it "heresy".
You should also look up the history of the word "heresy", who and what qualifies as "heretic".

Christianity Etc › Re: Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 12:54pm On Nov 22, 2023

HeatSeeker:
🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴

Do you know why Apocalypse of peter was removed and replaced with book of revelation?

Jesus is dead and gone, his Death was the Resurrection.

Christianity Etc › Thirty Shekels Of Silver. by Maynman(op): 12:29pm On Nov 22, 2023*

Exodus 21:32: If the ox gores a slave, male or female, the owner shall give to their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned.

In the Book of Matthew, we learn of Judas delivering Jesus for thirty shekels of silver, But how much is this money worth, and did Judas betray Jesus solely due to the love of money, or were there other motives involved?

In Exodus 21:32, thirty shekels of silver represented the compensation paid to a slave's master in case the slave was gored by an ox—an amount not considered significantly valuable.

Matthew 26:15 notes the counting out of thirty pieces of silver for Judas. This amount is metaphorical, echoing themes from the Tanakh. The author of Matthew consistently mirrors various Old Testament instances and concepts in his writing, like the prophecy of Jesus' virgin birth (Isaiah 7:14), though he got it wrong, and locations associated with Jesus' birth and ministry (Micah 5:2, Isaiah 9:1).

This similar theme was used for the Judas Allegory.

The Betrayal.
2 Sam. 16:23- Now in those days the advice Ahithophel gave was like that of one who inquires of God. That was how both David and Absalom regarded all of Ahithophel’s advice.

Here, Ahithophel is the betrayer. He was one of David's trusted advisers but later betrayed David by seeking to kill him and supporting Absalom's claim to the throne, as recounted in 2 Samuel 15:31 and 2 Samuel 17:1-3.

The Thirty Skekels Coin.
Zechariah 11:12- Then I said to them: “If it seems good to you, give me my wages; but if not, withhold them.” And they paid my wages, 30 pieces of silver.

Similar to how the Pharisees paid Judas for his job, the Israelites paid Zechariah thirty pieces of silver, an amount they deemed equivalent to the value of a slave in the case of accidental death. This was a deliberate insult aimed at Zechariah. In response, he was instructed to 'throw it to the potter'.

Potter's Field.
Zachariah 11:13- And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter"—the handsome price at which they valued me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the potter at the house of the Lord.

After Judas had thrown the money into the temple, the Pharisees took it and bought the 'potter's' field. This same concept aligns with the prophet Zechariah who tossed the money into the house of the Lord for 'the Potter.'

Death of Judas.
Matthew 27:5- Judas threw the silver coins into the Temple and left. Then he went out and hung himself.

Acts 1:18- Now this man acquired a field with the reward of his wickedness, and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out.

While there are no parallels to this in the Tanakh, his death is also a metaphor, Judas did not die.
As I have explained in my other articles, Judas is the disciple whom Jesus loved.
https://www.nairaland.com/7888378/other-disciple-whom-jesus-loved
Judas was the disciple who allowed Peter entry because he was known by the high priests. The Book of Matthew mentions how Judas died AFTER WITNESSING the Pharisees' judgment on Jesus in Matthew 27:3.

In Matthew 27:5, the explanation of Jesus' death by hanging uses a Greek metaphor, 'apanchomai' from 'apancho.' This term is a combination of 'apo,' meaning 'away from,' and 'ancho,' meaning 'to squeeze.'
Judas was "Choked Up" as in squeezing one's self as with great emotion or grief.

This was reiterated in Acts 1:18, where it says, 'falling headlong, he burst open in the middle, and all his bowels gushed out.'
In Greek, 'falling headlong' is 'presthes genomenos,' which symbolizes 'becoming swollen.'

He burst open in the middle, and all his bowels(splagchna) gushed out figuratively meant he poured his heart out among them, referring to the chief priests and elders.
https://www.adventisthealthcare.com/living-well/the-splagchnizomai-difference/#:~:text=The%20Greek%20word%20is%20splagchnizomai,story%20of%20the%20Prodigal%20Son.

Early Church Tradition.
The fourth book of Papias’s lost Exposition of the Sayings of the Lord contains a tradition about the death of Judas that is different from what we find in both Matt 27:3–10 and Acts 1:18–20.
"But Judas went about in this world as a great model of impiety. He became so bloated in the flesh that he could not pass through a place that was easily wide enough for a wagon—not even his swollen head could fit. They say that his eyelids swelled to such an extent that he could not see the light at all; and a doctor could not see his eyes even with an optical device, so deeply sunken they were in the surrounding flesh. And his genitals became more disgusting and larger than anyone's; simply by relieving himself, to his wanton shame, he emitted pus and worms that flowed through his entire body. And they say that after he suffered numerous torments and punishments, he died on his own land, and that land has been, until now, desolate and uninhabited because of the stench. Indeed, even to this day no one can pass by the place without holding his nose. This was how great an outpouring he made from his flesh on the ground."

Christianity Etc › Re: Yahushua The Messiah Is The Ancient Way, The Ancient Path. by Maynman: 5:01am On Nov 22, 2023

elated177:
Maynman, is it by force? I have chosen to know about the Scriptures of my Father in heaven and what they?

Where did Jesus say you should worship Yahweh?

Christianity Etc › Re: Yahushua The Messiah Is The Ancient Way, The Ancient Path. by Maynman: 12:29am On Nov 21, 2023

elated177:
22jumpstreet1, you made no points.

Look up Marcion?
What about ebionites?

Christianity Etc › Re: Victims Of Jws Will Thank You! by Maynman: 5:55pm On Nov 20, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
So you know your hopeless, worthless and useless church can't stand God's organization àbí?

A true Jehovah witness grin

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:50pm On Nov 20, 2023

Michael547:
Ok God is a man.....oya explain what Solomon said in 1 kings 8:27

Oga are you dense?
When did I say god is not man?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:48pm On Nov 20, 2023

Michael547:
Oga you should know better na...you have said God is not a man, but you are saying God is a dog and plant.
Are you not confused?

Oga are you dense?
When did I say god is not man?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:46pm On Nov 20, 2023

Michael547:
Oga explain it....shebi you said God is a plant and dog. Oya explain that bible verse

Oga was I quoting you?

Who was talking there?
What were they doing there?

Who are you asking people to explain things?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:45pm On Nov 20, 2023

Michael547:
Oya explain na

Answer na

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:44pm On Nov 20, 2023

Michael547:
Oga explain 1 kings 8:27

Who was talking there?
Which context?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:43pm On Nov 20, 2023

NNTR:
God is YHWH, so essentially if it requires that He be in faeces, so be it, He doesnt and/or won't mind

Yahweh means I will be what I will be, Jesus said, I am.
Did Jesus say you should worship yahweh?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Death? by Maynman: 5:42pm On Nov 20, 2023

sonmvayina:
God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe....
God is not a man or human being...

God is both a man, a plant, a dog, a ant, totality of consciousness like you said.

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