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paxonel:
no one said anything different
really?
Where did i defend slavery or are you deliberately trying to misunderstand me the way you said i insulted Muhammed without any proof ?

Jacob worshipping a stone, one of the gods of the “ancient Israelites”.
https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14059-stone-and-stone-worship

paxonel:
no one said anything different
really?
Where did i defend slavery or are you deliberately trying to misunderstand me the way you said i insulted Muhammed without any proof ?

The laws of moses was given by a deity and that deity also helped them to fight wars and capture slaves as war spoils.
I asked some questions earlier which you dodged.
What century is this” ancient Israelites”?
Which god was this “ancient Israelites” worshipping?
Are modern day christian worshipping the same god that this “ancient Israelite” worshipped?

The god that ancient Israelite worshiped supported slavery, genocide and so much more!
If not for indoctrination how hard can it be to understand.

paxonel:
just like the laws or constitutions of Nigeria are also supported by God, every country in the world have their own laws and God or any deity for that matter is not in the business to interfere.

If the laws are good then it's good for the country. If they are bad then it's bad for the country
the Jews who made these laws enforced them to do so, not God.
He didn't give them these laws, Moses drafted these laws hence they were called laws of Moses

The laws Moses received directly from God were laws of love, they are six of them :

Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not lie
Thou shall not bear false witness
Honor your parents
etc
being a slave master isn't an insult, it was a common thing for people to have slave in those days.

The question is : Did Muhammad had slaves?
You can answer that now

The laws of Nigeria are not based on prophet going up on a mountain .

It’s so surprising how you are vigorously defending slavery.

You’ve forgotten both you and islam are worshipping Abrahamaic gods?

During mohammed times too “being a slave master isn't an insult, it was a common thing for people to have slave in those days.”

Rozross:
Just very few women cheat but 99percent of men cheat

Do you know the percentage of men that are having sex talkless of Cheating with other women?
Will an average woman date an average man?

Rozross:
Men hates cheating ehnnn but na still them cheat pass and worst of it is they’ll expect you to forgive them and accept it as their birthright.

Women cheat more than men.
Who has more options?

BewareOf419:
That is why you need to read it over and over again, the author (OP) said Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the world, he who became a sin for us so that we might be the righteousness of God through him. Nobody is fighting you if Jesus is a name or not, know Jesus Christ and know peace!

Shalom Aleichem

That’s why you also need to read my post again in which i was talking about “jesus”.
Jesus is a common latin name.
Know baal hadad and know salvation!

shlama 'ahlaykhu

BewareOf419:
Treat comprehensive difficulties that is affecting you and read the context over and over again, nobody is asking you if Jesus is a name or not. You are only eager to comment by neglecting reading what the author (OP) said about Jesus

Treat indoctrination and brainwashing that’s affecting you too, theist.
The Op context was about Jesus Christ not jesus.
Who is jesus? It’s a common latin name, got it?

Judybash93:
Ohh yeah! This is where you got it all wrong. We flipping tested the types of soil. I don't know the kind of school you went to man! but you really need to get a hold of reality!
you only know of three states of matter because your education isn't complete sir!

Before your god can reject me, at least prove that he/she/it exists

dtruthspeaker is the dumbest theist on nairaland.

ANTIlSLAM:
So the question says is Jesus a name or not, abi OP tell u say Jesus is not a name? Wa gbadun las las sogbo

Let me come and be going jor

Who is jesus? it’s a name.
Just like saying who is Paul? Paul is a name.
It’s common sense, theist.

Brainwashing and indoctrination is not good.

ANTIlSLAM:
Mumu shey den tell u say Jesus is not a name

Mugu, I answered a question.

Jesus is a common latin name.

paxonel:
no, their God did not support slavery, slavery was their primitive life style enshrined into their laws you have just quoted and these laws were created by humans, not their God.

Their God only did not interfere with their laws because he gave them the freewill to decide for themselves what is right or what is wrong
where?

These laws are found in the tanakh with the support of their deity. Some slaves were gotten from war and they pay homage to this deity for giving them victory and war spoils.
He also gave them over 600 commandments in that same tanakh yet he’s not interfering?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments
It seems their deity did not only interfere he also created new laws for them.

You were calling mohammed slave master, when ancient Israelites and their deity are the biggest slave masters.

paxonel:
christians worship the same God, Muslims also claim to worship the same God but these are three separate religions, that is what matters

So the god that the “ancient Israelites” worship supported slavery but you are abusing mohammed?

paxonel:
i know that ancient Israelites also had slaves being that they were living in a primitive world practicing a religion that was relatively primitive to this modern day religions.

But how come Islam prophet Muhammad enslaved people according to the primitive order and a modern day Muslim does not?

Are Muslims practicing human equality than Mohammed their leader?
If so, who then should be leading, Mohammed or Muslims themselves?

What century is this” ancient Israelites”?
Which god was this “ancient Israelites” worshipping?
Are modern day christian worshipping the same god that this “ancient Israelite” worshipped?

iesus chrestus bwahahahah

paxonel:
so, Muhammed was a slave master, he enslaved people?

I didn't know

You know this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

Theist, stop lying shamelessly to defend your deity, you can blab but can’t provide evidence or facts to back it up, only indoctrinated fools do that.

Sixfiguresmart:
Your mates are off to school now. You will meet them in the club house for muddy puddle walk at 4 pm. You have fun.

so tell me the history books you’ve read where Israelite took “blacks” from Egypt or you are just talking?

so tell me the history books you’ve read where Israelite took “blacks” from Egypt or you are just talking?

Sixfiguresmart:
hahahaha

welcome to atheism

Thank you for denouncing islam hahaha

You see how you were pushed to come to reality of islam. You got to see the light eventually. you just broke free from enslavement hahaha of muhammed and the caliphate.

Jesus will save you

A theist lying shamelessly to defend his deity bwahahahah

How can you be making false statements to defend your true god, can you see the irony?

Baal hadad will save you and your family.

Sixfiguresmart:
Clown ahhaha

You invariably insult mohammed your prophet because if an Imam can identify you online, he will order your beheading. You know that?
how long have you been a muslim for?
What have you been doing in islam for this long?

you dont know basic things. I have been breastfeeding your and my breast hurts now cos you are too big to suck milk. You should use your teeth to bite bro.

go online where you got that information about yahweh to get more about the exodus.

You are being pedantically irritating. Your level of ignorance is exhausting me. Go get your mullah.

They said it’s a founding myth, so tell me the history books you’ve read where Israelite took “blacks” from Egypt or you are just talking?

You can blab endlessly but when it comes to bringing out facts and evidence you run away.
How can you be making false statements to defend your true god, can you see the irony?

Sixfiguresmart:
Blame it on Muhammed.
Because the Israelites left Egypt with so many black people. They lived in Israel peacefully.

Jesus parents ran to the blacks when the Romans wanted to kill Jesus.

The love of Solomon's life, his first wife was a black woman. Joseph married a black woman and they formed two tribes in Isreal. Solomon also fell in love with a black girl Shulamite.

Paul also went to black territories to preach the gospel.

In all these, there was not a single account of black people being enslaved in Israel. Until mohammed and the caliphates began formalizing disdain for the black skin. He taught his followers that black people are satan. He said that we have raisin hair. He ordered the killing of all black dogs because black is demonic.

From that point on, entered the FORMALIZATION of racism toward the black skin.

In the past, there were slaves from all parts of the world. Even an Israelite could become a slave to a fellow Israelite. A Phoenician could become a slave to an Egyptian.

From from Mohammed and the caliphate, they have singled out the black skin for slave trade. And, this practice is now normalized thanks to Mohammed and his followers.

Even the 72 virgins in heaven are all white girls. The word in Arabic refers to white girls. Now, what is the hope for black muslims women?

whatever happens in Israel today can be traced back to the root because Israel never used to be that way. Blacks thrived in Israel for thousands of years without a single problem even up to the time of Jesus.

The exodus story is a myth so paste links or the history books you read where Israelite left Egypt talkless of taking “blacks” with them or you are just talking?
How many people left israel in the mythology and how many got to israel, blacks did too?

Sixfiguresmart:
Lots of

sex slaves and labor too. They killed and sold black people. He was the first to initiate black slavery. the caliphate were the originators of the slave trade business not the white men.

They hate black people. In Saudi Arabia some of them will never want to look at you or be around you. They call you shaytan. They love white skin. Look at what the blacks in Egypt are going through. They have chased the black skinned Egyptians down south. Almost without jobs and good education. Just do a quick research and see how blacks are being treated even in India.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Racism_in_the_Arab_world

And, even if you are Muslim. They do not care.

Have you also looked up on how blacks are been treated in israel?

Sixfiguresmart:
I thought that your left brain was working. I just didn't check your prescription properly.

Yes, that God is the God that Muhammed testified to be the true God. The God of the Jews and Christians on whom the foundation of islam anchors.

He, Muhammed in the quran asserted and verified that the God of the Jews, Jehovah, or Yahweh gave Moses the Torah and the Christians the book.

Therefore, if what you posted is the God of israelites to you, yes, that is also your allah.

Jehovah prohibited the israelites from making any carved images. If this is what they called Jehovah, he surely isn't the one but this is a god of wood and stone.

This looks like Hubal, the moon Elohim. hahaha

once again, thanks for the laughs. Nice try.

Why don’t you also look up “yahweh” in the same google or are they lying against yahweh but not allah?
https://www.worldhistory.org/Yahweh/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

What’s the name of the last scroll that apostle paul wrote in 96ce. Any link to where you read it or you just talking?

Sixfiguresmart:
I thought that your left brain was working. I just didn't check your prescription properly.

Yes, that God is the God that Muhammed testified to be the true God. The God of the Jews and Christians on whom the foundation of islam anchors.

He, Muhammed in the quran asserted and verified that the God of the Jews, Jehovah, or Yahweh gave Moses the Torah and the Christians the book.

Therefore, if what you posted is the God of israelites to you, yes, that is also your allah.

Jehovah prohibited the israelites from making any carved images. If this is what they called Jehovah, he surely isn't the one but this is a god of wood and stone.

This looks like Hubal, the moon Elohim. hahaha

once again, thanks for the laughs. Nice try.

What verse in the quran did he say this
“Muhammed in the quran asserted and verified that the God of the Jews, Jehovah, or Yahweh gave Moses the Torah and the Christians the book.“

Sixfiguresmart:
Yes! No dispute. All of them are El. We will teach you that all those gods are Elohim. If you read the Hebrew Bible today you will see it there. They are all EL or Elohim. The difference is the name of the Elohim and if he approves of their worship.

Sir, all your questions are stooping lower than the basic right now. Are we in the majlis? You mean, you come to take on Jesus and you do not have simple information like what you are asking? Come on! I thought you were profound. Go deeper! that is what I am here for. Do better! You are trying to compute facts to hypothesize? haha you are utterly rudimentary. I will feed you, no qualms.
I told you before. Your memory is like poop in the water closet. once flushed you can't get it back. I said around 96 CE by apostle John.
In the 2nd BCE. He lived for 33 and a half years before he was killed.
Are you stunned? Go research and come back. Hahahaha this is the life and an illiterate Muslims. Always in shock. They keep you in illiteracy and have your recite, recite and recite until your brain gays out. That is why Muslims get irate when you show them the quran. They turn to violence because they just can figure a way out of the lies. It is stark. for you right now, you are looking for pagan materials to support your lies. Rather than looking to the quran to explain the quran. It cannot cos it is weak. They leave you to suffer all these insults and embarrassment publicly. Have you wondered why your sheikhs hardly come out to defend the quran? Cos, they can't. Many have suffered terrible mental frustration out of beinf humility and constantly disgraced like you are here. How long are you will to go on being embarrassed like this?

They never taught you that the quran that you are reciting now was produced in Egypt in 1923. Think about that. Your quran is almost as old a the queen of England. The earlier versions were full of etches and scrubs. They were trying to cover the errors and they burned. It was a project, in fact. A project to hide the truth from an abeed like you. A slave. So that they can keep controlling you. You go for pilgrimage, you book Saudia airline. You rent a place to stay. You pay for transport. You buy tamr or dates. You buy other things and these keep the economy bubbling. it is business. Where does mecca get its water? From a plant in Jeddah and Shoaiba, just south of Jeddah. And, they lie to you that the land is blessed. You go there and buy your holy water from the well of ibrahim. hahaha. They tell you that it has healing power hahaha.

in the first century from Aramaic, Hebrew and syriac. That is why Islam does not mean peace, it means submission. shalom or salam means peace. Arabic stole the Hebrew writing system and invariably every thing. I will attach the early manuscript of the Quran, the Topkapi manuscript. It is dated to the early 8th century. Hundreds of years after Muhammed died and they are still correcting lies. Look how they keep on writing on top of the lies that they have earlier told to cover up and deceive abeeds like you. Look the attached.

Mohammed cannot give a black man who has been stabbed water. He cannot pull out the sword of a stabbed black man to save him.

Ramblings from a frustrated Abrahamaic gods worshipper.
What’s the name of the last scroll that apostle paul wrote in 96ce. Any link to where you read it or you just talking?


Do you want to see yahweh mom’s pictures too?

Sixfiguresmart:
Scrap that and focus on the content. It was a metaphorical expression that I used to explain something to that other guy who is not a Muslim, not you. That is not a Christian doctrine. Focus on the doctrine not on my metaphor. Funny how you saw a breakthrough in that and you cannot find the two seas where Moses arrived and lost his fish. The last scroll was written around 96 CE. Can you learn from the way I respond to your questions? Direct and straightforward. Not twisting and tweaking with a great deal of sophistry and denial. Learn from this.
96 CE was about 500 years before Mohammed was born and about 3000 years after the Torah was completed by Joshua. So, the Jews preserved the Torah for 3550 years before Mohammed had any acclaimed encounter with Jubril, his ASSISTANT.
Please mention the thousands of book and let us look for it. The oldest Arabic book was in the 9th century. So, tell me the books and I will look for them. The oldest Greek book is from the 8th century. The oldest Latin book is from the 8th century. So, I am waiting for the names of these thousands of books during Jesus epoch. I AM WAITING DO NOT FORGET.
I have been taught the du'a, I have frequented the Majlis, I have been reverted and reverted again. If brainwashing were my code, I perform a very good task at that.

What is the fact in your vault, Sir? That I metaphorically told the other guy that birds fly in the skies and they are not documented? Are you serious? Let me tell you another metaphor. Birds sing and we do not release their albums. Are you going to build an anthill on this one too? Come on, man! Get real with me.
I am telling you that EL or Elohim are NOT names. Take that to the bank and cash it. EL is the shortened form of Elohim. The name of the Elohim of the Israelites is Yahweh or Jehovah in English. What education are you high on and about? The Elohim of the moon is allah. The Elohim of the kaaba is Hubal. The ELohim of the star on the dome of all mosques is Sopdet.

Every ramadan, you all look for Hubal and Sopdet. Those are idols of Islam.
Bring it on. I will also show you from your own quran muhammed's lecture on Jesus too. So, bring your A-game and I will bring Mohammed's A-game. That is a tie.

You’re just talking with no facts and talk is cheap, so keep talking..
When was the last scroll written and by who?
When was jesus born? Which century? Jesus was born in 8th century?
What do you mean oldest arabic book?
When was “arabic” as a language even created?

vastolord4:
In your own land, even her casket would be given attention than your king.. Aboy, please..

Given attention to by low self esteem, ignorant and uneducated slaves. Agirl, please too..

vastolord4:
Truth be told thrump (as I call him) is loud mouthed but the mf really knows his worth.. real businessman and know timing and location are the 2 most important factors for growth in both business and real life

Timing and location in a funeral?
That’s a narcissistic behavior.

UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Sixfiguresmart:
Bring alternative logic if you got that much neuron in your brain.

Jesus didn't fly. I never said that. I am talking about events that could be captured but not documented. I said not everyone had the capacity to document events. Education and the logistics are factors.

What people could do was talk.

It is disconcerting that you suddenly have no contributions anymore but a circus show. Bring forth your knowledge.

Christian, How’s bird a worthy event to capture compare to a human ascending into the sky?
And how many years after iesus chrestus die did they create the New Testament?
The world was pretty civilized after and during iesus time and thousands of books was written after and during his time.

Its fraudulent to run away from facts that doesn’t go down when with you and claim I don’t have contributions because you’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated with Abrahamaic gods.

I’ve already lectured you on EL, Elohim and your Israelite deity, yahweh.
Now I’ll lecture you on iesus chrestus.

Equating a human flying and a bird flying as the same thing?
Bwahahahah

Sixfiguresmart:
So now that you have got this education, will you accept that allah is a false name?

If I asked you the meaning of the name of your god, truly you have no clue. You are not taught. They do not want you to know anything. You will go out of the quran to source for answers. But, the Bible is whole. Explains itself.

Allah and elohim means same thing, and it means gods.
Is Israelite yahweh also a false god?

And you know the meaning of Yhwh which is a Egyptian hieroglyphs?
Is it in your bible?, maybe you need to listen to your advice and source for answers outside your Bible that’s written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.



You’ve forgotten both you and Muslims worship Abrahamaic gods? Keep shooting yourself on the foot!

Sixfiguresmart:
Lesson 101, Elohim was not the God that Abraham worshipped. Elohim mean god. Elohim was used as the gods of Egyptian, Elohim is used to refer to stone, Elohim is used for wooden gods and humans.

That Elohim worshipped by Moses has a name. His name is Jehovah. In Hebrew, it is Yahweh. In Aramaic it is YHWH.

So choose your preference in the language that you speak.

Just as Jesus name is not Christ (which means anointed one)Jesus is English, while Yehoshua or Yeshua is Hebrew. Choose your preference according to the language that you speak.

El is the short form of Elohim.

Look at the attached and thank the true God for enlightenment.

Elohim means gods. Elohim and allah means same thing.
Elohim is derived from EL and not a short form of it.
El means God.
Elohim are children of EL, and yahweh is one of his kids.

Christ is a greek word which means messiah in Hebrew and it means the anointed, we have many anointed prophets (christ/messiah) in tanakh.

You’ve forgotten both you and Muslims worship Abrahamaic gods? Keep shooting yourself on the foot!