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OkCornel:
Ireneaus, Polycarp, Origen, were these men Roman Catholic? Yes or No…

Why are you sidestepping the question?

You made a huge claim church Fathers are Roman Catholic, or are you changing your stance now?

I already answered it more than 2 times


What do you understand by Roman Catholic, and how is “church father” self explanatory?

OkCornel:
You’ve asked for a source, I gave you.
Jesus was crucified in the 1st century. Or do you need to do a google search of what “1st century” means?

The source never mentioned that Christianity started in 33AD, is that the only source where it is written?

After how many years when Jesus died was Christianity established and the New Testament complied and canonized?

OkCornel:
It’s self explanatory. My question to you is…Origen, Ireneaus and Polycarp, are they Roman Catholic? Yes or No.

How is it self explanatory?

OkCornel:
Now I’m 100% sure you’ve not read the book before saying this.

It gives an account of martyrdom of Christians from the Apostles and early believers in the 1st century (who are obviously not Protestants) all the way to 18th century or so.

Enjoy

http://ihtys.narod.ru/foxes_book_of_martyrs.pdf

That’s a lie. When did Jesus die that it was given “Christians” account in 1st century?

OkCornel:
What exactly is your argument? That there were no Christians in existence from 33AD up to when Emperor Constantine showed up?

Was the Roman Empire persecuting ghosts?

Read up Foxe’s Book of Martyrs

Yea send me a link where there was Christianity before Constantine.

Foxe’s book of martyrs is talking about protestant the product of Roman Catholic.

OkCornel:
I like how you’re changing your mouth. Keep it up.

Polycarp, Ireneaus, Origen, were these church fathers Roman Catholic?

What do you understand by “Church father”?

OkCornel:
I like how you’re changing your mouth. Keep it up.

Polycarp, Ireneaus, Origen, were these church fathers Roman Catholic?

Bwahahahah, so where did I mentioned Roman Catholic Church?

Yes they are ROMAN CATHOLIC.

do you know the difference between Catholic and Catholic Church?

OkCornel:
What part of “from 33AD” do you not understand?

Yes, send me a link where there was “Christianity” in 33AD before Constantine messed it up.

OkCornel:
Read your screenshot slowly again. It means two things.

When “Or” is introduced in a sentence, basic English… multiple options are introduced.

It means A (gathering of the whole army to make an announcement) OR B(a meeting to make some decisions)

Basic O’ Level English

Religion brainwashing oo. To read and understand don hard you.

OkCornel:
Were Origen, Ireneaus and Polycarp Roman Catholics? Yes or No

You made a bold claim church Fathers we’re Roman Catholic, so are the ones I mentioned above also Roman Catholic?

Did Roman Catholic Church exist in the 1st , 2nd century?

We were talking about Catholic, not Catholic Church, or don’t you know the difference?

OkCornel:
Were Origen, Ireneaus and Polycarp Roman Catholics? Yes or No

Yes.

OkCornel:
Which further reinforces my point. Ekklesia has multiple meanings.

From the screenshots you posted, ekklesia is a political assembly, ekklesia is also interpreted to mean gathering of an army. Neither are wrong…

You can go on and on… early believers gathered together, they were also called ekklesia.

Kini big deal. Language evolves overtime, that’s why you shouldn’t get to fixated on the labels and miss out on the context.

It means just one thing. Read slowly.

OkCornel:
Anyways, my screenshot answered your question on where I saw “believers”

Now humor me a bit, who told you the church Fathers were Roman Catholic?

Ireneaus, Polycarp, Origen for example were Roman Catholic? Lmao…

Go and study church history from 33AD up till when Emperor Constantine came to the scene and messed things up.

Who told you they were not? Your masters in watchtower?

OkCornel:
As you can see in your screenshot, the word ecclesia and church was used interchangeably.

The Church of the Municipality aka “ekklesia tou dimou”

And?

OkCornel:
Anyways, my screenshot answered your question on where I saw “believers”

Now humor me a bit, who told you the church Fathers were Roman Catholic?

Ireneaus, Polycarp, Origen for example were Roman Catholic? Lmao…

Go and study church history from 33AD up till when Emperor Constantine came to the scene and messed things up.

Lying to defend your deity.
You mean their was a “church history” before 33AD, can you send me the link where I can read it.

OkCornel:
Did you miss “community of believers” in the screenshot you posted?

After it was changed by the CHURCH FATHERS courtesy Roman Catholic , didn’t you read “originally”?

OkCornel:
Check the three interpretations to ecclesia in the dictionary. Not just the first one

See CHURCH there right?

This church?

OkCornel:
Rest abeg, just do us a favor and tell us you are right while the dictionaries, theologians and researchers are wrong.

From the screenshot you put up there, you can see the reason ekklesia was applied to “the congregation of believers”

If you can’t connect the dots…oh well.

It’s you that should stop lying, what did I say that the dictionary said otherwise, is this the best you can do to defend your deity?

Which screenshot did you see “believers”? Bwahahahah

OkCornel:
All hail the all knowing one, he is right, but the dictionary is wrong.

Nairalanders, throwaway your dictionaries…maynman is more accurate than them.

Smh

The dictionary said exactly what I said, or what am I missing?
Bwahahahah

OkCornel:
You don’t have to be economical with the truth.

Put out all the meanings to ecclesia here.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ecclesia

I guess the Roman Catholic Church wrote all the dictionaries too

Ecclesia (or Ekklesia) in Christian theology means both: a particular body of faithful people, and the whole body of the faithful. Latin ecclesia, from Greek ekklesia, where the word is a compound of two segments: "ek", a preposition meaning "out of", and a verb, "kaleo", signifying "to call" - together, literally, "to call out". That usage soon disappeared and was replaced with "assembly, congregation, council", or "convocation".

Source: Robertson A.T. (1919). A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research.

CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY** that was gotten from the Greeks right?

OkCornel:
You don’t have to be economical with the truth.

Put out all the meanings to ecclesia here.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ecclesia

I guess the Roman Catholic Church wrote all the dictionaries too

The dictionary got the meaning from the origin right? And how was I economical with the truth? They said same thing I said.
Bwahahahah

Kobojunkie:
As I already explained before, I don't believe in scripture. Instead I believe in the Word of God, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God.

Is the handwriting of your god beautiful? Or who wrote it for you to read?

OkCornel:
Ecclesia, called out ones, church. You sha get the message. Don’t get too stuck on the labels

The ecclesia or ekklesia (Greek: ἐκκλησία) was the principal assembly of the democracy of ancient Athens. It was the popular assembly, open to all male citizens as soon as they qualified for citizenship. Ecclesia (ancient Athens) - Wikipedia, was later changed to “church” by the CHURCH FATHERS.
ROMAN CATHOLIC BAD GAN

Yes you are just a messenger of yahushua
I told you before you don’t even know the name of your deity.

Soteria worshipper lol

oteneaaron:
You can actually get dumber by speaking with MaxInDHouse

Factos.

OkCornel:
Did God ever make any request from the gentiles to tithe or obey any of the Mosaic laws?

Your answer is in Acts 15.

While at it, it would be very helpful if you can provide scriptural references of Gentile believers that tithed in the early church. Thanks.

This is one of the works of Roman Catholic, there’s nothing like “church” it’s called eccelsia before it was changed by “Church” Fathers.

Elohim and Allah mean same thing literally.

Kobojunkie:
Those outlined there are works of righteousness, the Key to the Kingdom of Heaven itself but wait, does this mean that all those who do this will enter into Heaven?

According to Isaiah 64 vs 6, our sins make unholy our works of righteousness, so it benefits no man to do works of righteousness while he/she remains a slave to sin. And according to Jesus Christ, it is only through continuous submission to and obedience of His teachings(and commandments) , God's Truth, that one comes to Know the Truth and is then set free, from slavery to sin, by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 35

I thought you said Old Testament is for those running with Jacob blood in their vein? Why are you still then quoting it?


All what she said, did your Jesus say otherwise.
You are a HAG, I told you before even with your Latin Jesus you are still Sad.

Kobojunkie:
Your assertions and hence conclusions as regards Christiandom are false.

■ The Old Covenant Law of Moses which you quoted from, along with the Old Testament scriptures are of Judaism and not Christiandom. So, the law in Leviticus which you quoted belongs to the people of Israel- those who are born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Those laws were given as part of God's Constitution to the Nation of Israel, a Nation which He constituted at the time.

■ Jesus Christ, the Christ in the word Christianity gave to His followers a different and separate Law to live by, this in the Nation called the Kingdom of God. According to Jesus Christ, blasphemy, also referrer to as the unforgivable sin is a sin committed, not against His person or against God but against God's Holy Spirit with punishment to be carried out by the Holy Spirit Himself - Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10,

Kingdom of your god is a Nation just as Israel and Iran are nations?
Christ is a Greek word, hope you know it’s origin?

Khaleepha5681:
Atheism litterally means the unbelieving in the existence of deity.

But frankly speaking it goes beyond this.

Do you also know that god and deity mean same thing?

And people don’t realize they are pagans because they are calling it beautiful names lol