OkCornel: Oh wow, so the Roman Catholic were the ones at Antioch who labelled the followers of Jesus as Christians?
Acts 11 v 26; 26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
It was Tertulian that labeled them and he didn’t call them “christian”, it was “chrestian”
Before Tertulian named them “Chrestian” what were they referred to as?
OkCornel: Read Acts 15 and clear up your ignorance. That laid a clear marker on the difference between Judaism and Christianity.
Either you choose one or the other. You can't do both
You haven’t answered the question, why are Christians using a Judaist book yet you don’t believe in Judaism? You won’t be able to understand their book.
OkCornel: So sad, so in your new Testament, it did not say anything about the "Act of the Apostles", and the various letters written by James the brother of Jesus, Jude the brother of Jesus, Apostle John, Apostle Paul or Apostle Peter?
Oh well, the bolded says a lot about your level of knowledge on the scriptures...
Now please, show us examples of where the Apostles and early Christians killed their enemies in the new testament.
Bro, Christianity is a creation of Roman Catholic.
New Testament (Acts to Revelation) is the church and Christianity
Why are Christians using a Judaist book, yet you don’t believe in Judaism? When “Jesus” was alive he was Judaist, you know who is the father of Judaism?
Lawag3: Everybody knows that Mohammed copied other people's religion to form is own.
Yahweh and Elohim are two different names
Have you read who is this Allah? By G.J.O Moshay if no then don't worry I'll email you the book
Everyone knows but you said this earlier? Everyone is not a true student of history so Kindly post the link to your history and facts. ELOHIM AND ALLAH ARE THE SAME THING, YAHWEH IS A KID TO THEM.
Are you saying it’s from that book you saw that Christianity, Judaism and an Arab religion created Islam? Are you sure?
OkCornel: Let’s be clear. Do you want to practice Judaism? Or Christianity.
If it’s Christianity you claim to profess, just provide scriptural references where Christians killed their enemies. I’m not asking for too much.
If you want to kill your enemies, leave Christianity out of it. No need to twist the scriptures to suit your agenda.
Let’s be clear, Christianity came from Judaism. Even when “Jesus” was alive he was a Judaist. Who do you think owns the OLD TESTAMENT y’all borrowed into the Christian Bible? Was it your loving god that was approving all the killings in Old Testament?
Kobojunkie: Jesus Christ Himself confirmed that He is indeed the one who Moses wrote about. So, those people are simply ignorant and letijh their egos get the better of them.
You are the ignorant one. In the early copy of the New Testament, was “Jesus” mentioned? Where did Roman Catholic see “Jesus” from?
Kobojunkie: Again, you accept that all that came out of Jesus Christ's own mouth came directly from God, right?
So, again, why then do you experience a hiccup with Jesus Christ, or I should say God telling you through Jesus Christ that if you have seen me(Jesus Christ), you have seen God?
The same can be said about you, what kind of shameless hypocrite are you? Why are you only accepting the one that suits your agenda? What about the one that he mentioned, why did you have hiccup with it and not accept it?
OkCornel: It would be helpful if you can point to examples of Christians (not Judaisers in the Old Testament o) in the scriptures that killed their enemies. Anywhere from Acts to Revelation please.
Without those killings in Old Testament there won’t be any Christianity in New Testament. And if you look at the history of how Christianity started, it’s through the help of the Romans and crusaders!
Kobojunkie: So, it's good that you believe that everything Jesus Christ says is that which God commanded Him to say, right?
So, following that we know then that it is God who instructed Jesus Christ to say, "If you have seen me(Jesus Christ), you have seen God", so why do you conveniently reject this statement from God?
He conveniently reject it the same way you rejected his too, see hypocrite oo. The verse that he mentioned no be Jesus talk am? You see why Bible is full of contradictions and everyone is cherry picking the one that suits their sad life?
Kobojunkie: So help me understand the way you process these things.
You seem to experience no logical hiccups with reasoning out the following statement made by Jesus Christ's, "my teaching is not mine but His who sent me".
However, when the same Jesus Christ says," If you have seen me, you have seen God", you become unable to logically reason this exactly as you were able to the previous statement because?
Why are you unable to read the second statement as Jesus Christ also saying He himself is God?
Tertulian is a montanist!
See “church fathers” arguing over trinity before it was later accepted ;
Lawag3: Allah existed before islam he was worship in the ancient Arab religion
I can prove it to you
Prove this too, “Islam is a blend of Christianity Judaism and ancient indigenous pagan Arab religion. “
And hope you also know Yahweh and Elohim were worshipped before rabbinical Judaism and Christianity? And hope you also know that Elohim and Allah are the same thing?
You are yet to post link or name the textbook where you read “real political, social ,economic and religious history in whole with facts.”
Pathokpo: Islam is a blend of Christianity Judaism and ancient indigenous pagan Arab religion. Hope you understand now. You may not know this unless you are a true student of the history of the Middle East. When I say history, I don't mean the history derived from religious books I mean real political, social ,economic and religious history in whole with facts.
That’s a lie. Islam is not derived from Christianity. And we have different types of Judaism, which one? And hope you know Judaism is from yahwism?
“Ancient arab religion” there’s nothing like that. Even the oldest religion are known, kindly mention the name of the “ancient Arab religion”
Can you name the textbook you read, or post the website links where you saw all these “history” and “facts”?
PeaceJoyLove: Mumu still asking me. And this one dey argue about the concept of God online... you dey on online and dont know how to check references even on wikipedia? Your own don finish.
See eh...tou are finished. You always think I be dey insult you say your level dey low. How can you still be asking me this ...and you are a scholar.
A beg...make a dey waka... Mr Spellz.
See...poverty still dey your life. I told you the last time to go commot am. Ha ba. You just dey follow me debate. You go wound yourself boy mumu.
Make poverty die from your life....go better college..
All talk no brain. god is a title not a person. Why don’t you bring your imaginary references out, you can’t give me examples because you are a shameless liar.
You and I know what you are doing, it just goes to show how low you can go for your god!
PeaceJoyLove: I dont like arguing with you...but is it from Torah that modern scientists derive their answers not to really dispute Exodus from? You this man...how you kinda understand your stuff is funny ooo. Serious...which school did you attend?
Anyway, I deliberately gave you the link so that you can read and then check the references. Ha ba! Na the attached references you need to check na. Yes, the Torah itself does not give accurate account. But you read there that modern scholars dont just say the Exodus story is really false. Why? There are attachments na.
Oga, see...if you are so dull that you dont know how to make research further, I cant help you ooo.
See, i am not just abusing you...the things you miss surprises me. You read it clearly there...and then, there are further references. You are hammering on Torrah. Is Torrah the subject I mentioned? Did I even talk about Torrah? Cos you saw Torrah in the picture. How na? Chai! Chai! Chai! You mumu oooo. Chai!
Your mumu never do. See, I dont have your time this man. If you dont understand simple things, like checking attached references, how can you be a scholar?
Una just hear atheism...you rushed into it like mumu. Go away Joor! Ha ba! You no sharp at all. Check the dam attachment there. There are like 2 solid books....books......as in large content. Ha ba! Modern days books written in our time. Ha ba!
You be olodo sha! Chai!
Illiterate. The screenshot you sent was talking about Torah.
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
See where your “historical basis” comes from, olodo.
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
Illiterate, shebi you have “Read the extract and go very deep.” They can’t mention the pharaoh because there’s no pharaoh!
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
Illiterate shebi you have “Read the extract and go very deep.”
Begore Moses was born in the myth, the story has already been written, you know what that means?it wasn’t Moses that wrote the Torah, it happened before any Moses was born, so how then can Moses go to Egypt in the story when Moses hasn’t even born centuries apart! Sheep!
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
The screenshot was talking about Torah but you are too dumb to know, do you even know what Torah Is?
You lack common sense!l and you are too DESPERATE, your stupidity is glaring.
Egypt don’t know their history, really ? All these because you went to defend your deity?
Pathokpo: And Islam comes from Christianity and Judaism. The trend would have continued but the smart and cunning Muhammad made sure it stopped with him by declaring himself the last messenger of God. Most monotheistic religions had their origin from Judaism.
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
I dislike people like you, lying blatantly and you know you are lying but you are desperate to defend your god, too desperate. You can’t give me any examples because You are a shameless liar!
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
When are you going to do research between Elohim and Yahweh? One is father, the other his son?
PeaceJoyLove: I know you have been trying to debate me..but I dont want to. But I want to just say something here. If you allow me to say it...fine...if you dont want...fine.
I personally agree with you on this, but not totally. Based on history, we cannot really say it really happened. But there is a truth you should know: history was lost. When? How? We dont know. And bible has a few quotes regarding it. There are things there that scientists disputed about Bible, but archeologists found later. This is why I dont argue too much. When you know this rule, you willl be careful.
First...read Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. Exodus 1:8 NIV
But read this Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Exodus 1:8 KJV If you read this very well, you will see that even in the Bible suggests history was lost. This verse might mean that the Egyptians at that time did not keep records very well. Maybe...maybe not. Maybe it didnt really happen...but I think it did because of some issues surrounding it. So, I believe the story..
If we go into this, we will argue many things we know and we dont know. We will even curse ourselves. I was so confused of many things too....but as I started opening my eyes to scientific facts and histories, I started seeing scanty evidences also. And this has been helping me in my spiritual journey.
So, modern days historian too dont always say it is totally wrong....they always are careful cos they have learned that when they start condemning Bible history is when someone discovers something that always make them look silly......how come?
Take note of the screenshot below. Read the extract and go very deep. You will see many stories that historians first said are false, and then they started changing their words. Well, I wont give you any examples as you should go make your research. I dont debate the Bible cos I have learned not to after a thorough research.
It is only an advice I am giving you. You are free to take it or not.
Dont just do little research and then you start forming "alpha" and "omega" here. I have told you that you lack the capacity to study deep. But you keep forming here.
Goodluck sir.
Are you dumb, they are LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TORAH, do you know what the Torah is? Where did they say anything about Moses been in captive in Egypt?
Egypt didn’t keep history yet they know the history of all Egyptian dynasty from the first to the last? In the story in the Bible, they said Israelites lived for over 400 years yet there’s no single Archaeological artifacts in Egypt. Do you understand what you read?
killmods: You see.. most of u lots have a deep hatred for God and Christianity and out of frustration and disappointments u turn into something else. Because I said the biblical version is more convincing u first called me a sheep. Now ur using the bold. How do u know I believe in anything? You are not bright one bit. Simple explain better what u know to who doesn't and then ur rolling up ur sleeves spoiling for a fight already.. You can shove it up where the sun doesn't shine. I'm no longer interested.
What’s the difference between doctor and Doctor?, god and God? How do you pronounce god, God, goD and GOD? You’ve been brainwashed!
Christianity Etc › Re: . by Maynman: 10:40pm On May 16, 2022
