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Poems For ReviewOriginality by mcfynest(op): 8:16am On May 25, 2013
feel dis originality
i no b dagrin
buh am at d brink
to makin it to my peak
yu jst got to say guy aw u
dey
n i go dey voice pass olamide
eyin te fe kin de
emi o kin se laide
oluwa ti de mi lade
so omolade ma rin bi alade.
am an impact to dis world
ole ma wo mi, ole ma woran
am gonna mk it to d spot
wer ida pple don fall.
God na ma helper
Jehovah na ma leader
even if u plan bad evrytin go
turn down.
for ur eyes i go make am
next ti wa rimi, ma wa pelu
oprah.
obama ma ti mi i ma ni guy
aw u dey
emi na a blend ma flex mi o
ni run down.
ola oluwa ni mo fin yo
mi o jela sugbon enu mi n yo
omoalayo ni mi to ri e ni mo
fin yo
to ba n binu ko lo fori koyo
awon kon so pe guy u too
young
omo olorun ni mi emi o ran
yan
to ba fe se party e o sure pe
emi ni wa yan...
hahhahahahha
disvna ma lyrical
rhymes...abeg no tel me say i
no get job o.
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 7:15am On May 25, 2013
frosbel: One other question, if we agree with the position of some , that Jesus went to preach to the spirits in prison at the time of Noah, why only these people ? Is this not favoritism ? Why did Jesus not go and preach to ALL who had died since the world began including the time of NOAH ?
the bible clearly states that God will have mercy on whom He wants to have mercy....

buh realy frosbel thanks for explaining more beta kiss
frosbel: One other question, if we agree with the position of some , that Jesus went to preach to the spirits in prison at the time of Noah, why only these people ? Is this not favoritism ? Why did Jesus not go and preach to ALL who had died since the world began including the time of NOAH ?
the bible clearly states that God will have mercy on whom He wants to have mercy....

buh realy frosbel thanks for explaining more beta
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 7:03pm On May 24, 2013
thats cos we dnt knw wat apnd to moses.... God buried him. who knws mayb d ppple didnt c him again so dey presumed he was dead
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 6:43pm On May 24, 2013
striktlymi: Okay, cool!



Well MC, Moses did die...see below for scriptural backing:

Deuteronomy 34:5-6
King James Version (KJV)

5 So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. 6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.




Okay!



I don't know where the above is heading to but I don't think I mentioned anything like Christ going to Hades or Hell...



Nah men...so many things are mixed up in there...the passage was not talking about what Christ did before he came as man...it was what happened after he died...refer to the passage again...

1 Peter 3:18-20
King James Version (KJV)

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


Peter started by letting us know who was involved (Christ) then what happened after he died (died in the flesh and quickened in the spirit)...it then revealed what he did after he was 'quickened by the spirit' (he went to preach to the spirits in prison)...and then told us which spirits he preached to (those who disobeyed at the time of Noah)...
my broda pls dnt get it twisted....
frosbel: Please answer my question.
striktlymi: Okay, cool!



Well MC, Moses did die...see below for scriptural backing:

Deuteronomy 34:5-6
King James Version (KJV)

5 So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. 6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.




Okay!



I don't know where the above is heading to but I don't think I mentioned anything like Christ going to Hades or Hell...



Nah men...so many things are mixed up in there...the passage was not talking about what Christ did before he came as man...it was what happened after he died...refer to the passage again...

1 Peter 3:18-20
King James Version (KJV)

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


Peter started by letting us know who was involved (Christ) then what happened after he died (died in the flesh and quickened in the spirit)...it then revealed what he did after he was 'quickened by the spirit' (he went to preach to the spirits in prison)...and then told us which spirits he preached to (those who disobeyed at the time of Noah)...
my broda pls dnt get it twisted....


and on the issue of who he preached to.... Isaiah 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? satan has prisoners and who are this prisonershuh?? John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant(slave) of sin. anyone who commits a sin would bcom a slve to satan.... those r d people jesus preached to....in spirit
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 4:37pm On May 24, 2013
striktlymi: It still does not explain it...you are only giving it your own interpretation...

Now how do you explain these passages in line with the OP:

Matthew 17:2-3
New International Version (NIV)


2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.



1 Peter 3:18-20
New International Version (NIV)


19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 4:36pm On May 24, 2013
striktlymi: It still does not explain it...you are only giving it your own interpretation...

Now how do you explain these passages in line with the OP:

Matthew 17:2-3
New International Version (NIV)


2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.



1 Peter 3:18-20
New International Version (NIV)


19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
pls bfor i ans dis ques....it is a must dat u shud knw dat am not arguing so pls let d holy spirit have his way.
now the issue is dis....wer was moses or elijah buried? sinc no one knws den u knw elijah was taken to heaven while no one knows how or were moses died.... so sinc dey didnt die dey are not aslip.

on d 2nd issue,pls lets b spiritual in dis....
no wer did d dis verse say Jesus went to hades or hell... it said" he was put to death in the body but made alive in the spirit by whom he went and preached to d spirit in the prison.
the question is who is the individual mentioned in the words “by whom” found in verse 19? If you read the verse it says “by the Spirit,19 by whom” Thus the by whom” is the Holy Spirit. So with that in mind the verse says the following that Christ by the Holy Spirit “went and preached to the spirits
in prison”.
The verse says that Christ by the Holy Spirit “went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient,” when? The verse states ” when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah,
while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.” So Christ by the Holy Spirit preached to the spirits in prison in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. Thus this happened before Jesus came as a man. so according to John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. so whosever comits sin is a slave to sin. now jesus in spirit went to d humans living in noah's time, the Bible tells us Satan has “made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, ” and “did not open the house of his prisoners “. (Isaiah 14:17) So Satan is the one keeping these prisoners. Prisoners have no freedom. Who is it whom Satan is trying to take captive? Humans of course. Thus, the prisoners are actually humans who are bound to sin.
dats based on my litu understanding with the help of the holy spirit.....i had to add some source sef
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 2:06pm On May 24, 2013
striktlymi: Hallo MC,

You danced to the left...danced to the right and finally ended up explaining NOTHING!!!
what i meant was that jesus was not telling d guy that he will meet him in paradise dat day. he was just telin him dat wen he coms bck he(d thief) wud reign with him in paradise
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 2:04pm On May 24, 2013
[quote author=Detonator-rex]so in other words, all those that see revelations of people in heaven and earth are liars? huh[/quote]when jesus, peter, elijah raised someone who was dead, did dey come back and say they saw themselve in a heaven or hell?
EducationRe: Death by mcfynest(op): 9:24pm On May 23, 2013
isnt dis educational enuf to grace the front page? angryisnt dis educational enuf to grace the front page?
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 9:19pm On May 23, 2013
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee Today, shalt thou be with me in paradise.
pls read the ff passages...luke 4:24,
9:27, 12:37,
12:44, 18:17,
18:29, 21:3,
and 21:43 ........
in d greek txt of d bible there was no punctuation mark. and dis was the ist time jesus will use today n verily togeda in one passage....so the meaning of dis passage is based on ir beliv..by placing the comma wer u wish....so jesus was telin 'Verily I say unto thee Today....' meaning he is talking to him dis very moment...we can say it lyk dis! surely i say to u today, dat u will be with me in paradise.....
simple
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 5:23pm On May 23, 2013
[quote author=Detonator-rex]the rich man died and went to hell..what makes that figurative? Cos its a parable?[/quote]simple....it is a parable.....giv me another example
EducationDeath by mcfynest(op): 2:07pm On May 23, 2013
greetings to all of you in
the name of Jesus. I am
writing this article so as
to give us 'christians' a
biblical understanding of
what happens after an
individual breaths his last
breath.
This am saying now is
based upon my
understanding of the
bible and the holyspirit
helped in interpreting
part i dont understand.
now lets talk about the
main subject.
According to the following
verses......
matthew 9 vs24... He said
unto them, Give place:
for the maid is not dead,
but sleepeth. And they
laughed him to scorn.
John 11:11 These things
said he: and after that he
saith unto them, Our
friend Lazarus sleepeth;
but I go, that I may
awake him out of sleep.
Acts 7:60 And he kneeled
down, and cried with a
loud voice, Lord, lay not
this sin to their charge.
And when he had said
this, he fell asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:6 After
that, he was seen of
above five hundred
brethren at once; of
whom the greater part
remain unto this present,
but some are fallen
asleep.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the
living know that they
shall die: but the dead
know not any thing,
neither have they any
more a reward; for the
memory of them is
forgotten.
Based on the above text
from the holy bible, we
can understand that when
a person dies, he does
not go to a world beyond
or transforms into
something else. He is
asleep waiting for the
time that he would be
woken uo someday. Just
like when we sleep, we
are conscious of nothing,
we just lie on where we
slept waiting to be woken
up by instinct.
secondly, lets us consider
the following verses .......
John 5:28 Marvel not at
this: for the hour is
coming, in the which all
that are in the graves
shall hear his voice, 5:29
And shall come forth;
they that have done
good, unto the
resurrection of life; and
they that have done evil,
unto the resurrection of
damnation.
Acts 24:15 And have hope
toward God, which they
themselves also allow,
that there shall be a
resurrection of the dead,
both of the just and
unjust
this is just the simple and
logical explanation of
death
so fellas isnt it quite
simple to know that one
day our friends and
family will be ressurected
and we will see them
once more?
may d peace of the Lord
be with you all
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 2:01pm On May 23, 2013
[quote author=Detonator-rex]how do you explain the parable of the rich man and Lazarus?
Luke 16:22-31[/quote]what about it? jesus was saying a parable..... dats figurative. wen lazarus d broda of martha rose after death, did he come bck n tel tales of him going to heaven or hell?
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 1:28pm On May 23, 2013
oya mods.... front page things....lets educate one anoda
Christianity EtcRe: Fact About Death by mcfynest(op): 12:49pm On May 23, 2013
nikkyshyne: My tots exactly. But some say the spirit goes to wherever immediately undecided
that was my believe also not until i read d bible with the help of the holyspirit.... try to read it u wil c dat it works
Christianity EtcFact About Death by mcfynest(op): 11:59am On May 23, 2013
greetings to all of you in the name of Jesus. I am writing this article so as to give us 'christians' a biblical understanding of what happens after an individual breaths his last breath.
This am saying now is based upon my understanding of the bible and the holyspirit helped in interpreting part i dont understand.

now lets talk about the main subject.

According to the following verses......
matthew 9 vs24... He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.
John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Acts 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Based on the above text from the holy bible, we can understand that when a person dies, he does not go to a world beyond or transforms into something else. He is asleep waiting for the time that he would be woken uo someday. Just like when we sleep, we are conscious of nothing, we just lie on where we slept waiting to be woken up by instinct.

secondly, lets us consider the following verses .......

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust

this is just the simple and logical explanation of death

so fellas isnt it quite simple to know that one day our friends and family will be ressurected and we will see them once more?

may d peace of the Lord be with you all
CultureRe: Suzanne Wenger: Nigeria’s Mystical Priestess by mcfynest(m): 2:53pm On May 22, 2013
aw i wish i could talk with chief muraina, he is my mentor even as i do not knw him personally.....long live adunni in d hearts of we d omo odua.
PoliticsRe: ACN Condemns Declaration Of State of Emergency! by mcfynest(m): 9:03pm On May 15, 2013
ACN abeg pls dont say anytin so that pple wont say u r suportive of BH come 2015. ist time mr pres wil impress nigerians
Nairaland GeneralRe: Are Nairalanders Jus Daft, Un Reformed Or They Are Just So Abusive? by mcfynest(op): 12:25pm On May 15, 2013
mods front page things please
Nairaland GeneralRe: Are Nairalanders Jus Daft, Un Reformed Or They Are Just So Abusive? by mcfynest(op): 10:17am On May 15, 2013
@ geezyk dats true...its just so annoying that one cant find something meaningful on nigeria on nairaland anymor
Nairaland GeneralRe: Are Nairalanders Jus Daft, Un Reformed Or They Are Just So Abusive? by mcfynest(op): 9:52am On May 15, 2013
mods pls front page...nairalanders need to understand this
Nairaland GeneralAre Nairalanders Jus Daft, Un Reformed Or They Are Just So Abusive? by mcfynest(op): 9:50am On May 15, 2013
the internet is a place were we get informations about diferent issues that was why some few days ago i typed a question on google and it brought various options for me to click on and select the best for what i was searching for of which nairaland.com was also a link that was given. to my surprise even though the question was asked on a topic the reply was just rubbish ranging from abuse to curse to ist to comment to out of the question awnsers. nothing relevant was gotten there. lets change this attitude and lets make nairaland an educative site for all to benefit from. atleast we get reasojable answers from yahoo answers....pls let us change. God bless nigeria
PoliticsRe: Thisday Bomber Cried For Missing Heaven - Witness. by mcfynest(m): 9:22am On May 15, 2013
meen.....this guy has been told that he wod f1c.k 72 virgins in their so called haven....this is jst BS....
NYSCDelta State Primary School Coppers by mcfynest(op): 12:12pm On May 11, 2013
i am currently serving in one of the primary schools in delta state. i am a batch 'c' corps member. the issue is that we are not being paid our state monthly allowance while my fellow corps members in secondary schools and other copas not in primary school are being paid. this realy hurts and it is not encouraging. please what do yoh think i can do. the gov promised to pay the batch A buh still hasnt paid.....pls advice or if u can help contact the gov pls do
FoodRe: A Male Nairalander Cooking Jollof Rice by mcfynest(m): 1:53pm On May 10, 2013
atleast d guy for clean the sides of the pot....and bsyds this is not jollof rice atall...this na concoction...i ate it yest morning i swear.. this is intelectual fraud...caling this jollof rice is total fraud
RomanceRe: Can You Stop Loving Your Partner? by mcfynest(m):
ok....ma girlfrnd jst broke up wif me....and i still luv ha....i tink dats luv....somtyms wen u luv smone it is beta for u to let dem go....if letin dem go wil make dem api :'
EntertainmentRe: Are You Among The Generation That Used This Television? by mcfynest(m): 12:18pm On May 04, 2013
our husband has gone mad again....biker mice from mars....tales by moonlight...the new masquarade..nd d list goes on n on
EntertainmentRe: Are You Among The Generation That Used This Television? by mcfynest(m): 12:15pm On May 04, 2013
our husband has gone mad again....biker mice from mars....tales by moonlight...the new masquarade..nd d list goes on n on smiley
RomanceRe: Men, Do You Value Intelligence Or Beauty? by mcfynest(m): 6:07pm On May 03, 2013
are u sure about ur gender? are u aure u av a phd? if yes phd in what? are u sure u av eva set ur foot outside ur region not to talk of nigeria. because even if u ugly pass iyabo obasanjo buh u get phd and u school for the best ijstitution in d states den guys go dey flock around u.....so know dis l- nairalanders dont just comment on a thread anyhow....we dont waste time
CrimeRe: Mother Slashes Daughter With Blade For Wasting N100 by mcfynest(m): 8:08pm On May 02, 2013
this post sucks without images lipsrsealed

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