₦airaland Forum

shegra58:
Yoruba dey pussle you for dream?

Which Yoruba dey pursue you? You pple are being smart by half.

Initially, you claimed Yoruba Christians are your headache and now you claim it's Yoruba's turn. According to you, it must be Yoruba, but not Yoruba Christians, rather a Yoruba Muslim. Then among the Yoruba Muslims, it must be Emi l'okan, not someone like Raji Fasola. Can you see a deceit?

The same way you see the Ibos as being bad, but are silent on the killer herdsmen who have killed, maimed, and raped your people, just because most people caught in such evilish acts share the same faith with you. When they report of the atrocities of the killer herdsmen, you become mute and your comment boxes disappear. But let it be about Ibos or IPOB or Igboho, you will jump out of your holes to rain abuses. You see hypocrisy?

You are quick to attack pastors, whose church members contributed to buy private jets for thier missionary works, despite that no pastor has ever ruled the country has a president, but will turn a blind eye at the politicians that are looting billions and trillions and use the money to buy private jets and choppers and stack a lot of their loots abroad despite that we have had a number of Alhaji who ruled this country. Tafawa Balewa, Shehu Shagari, Murtala Muhammed, Mohamodu Buhari, Sanni Abacha, Ibrahim Babangida, Abdusalami Abubakar. Another hypocrisy?

IfnobeGod20:
Let me first correct this your impression. Tinubu is not and can never be member of your family. Yoruba adage says, oko kin pa baba ati omo po ko ma lala. Meaning for the benefit of those that are not Yorubas. A father and a child cannot farm together and not have demarcation. Tinubu is our tribe man no doubt but he will first favour his immediate family, then make his political family second before remembering that he has one tribe.

This particular issue you raised has been our greatest undoing and that had made Nigeria not to move forward because we place premium on tribe, religion and ethnic biases against nationality.
The ibos you trying to denigrate have even been favourably nationalistic than any tribe when it comes to voting pattern. They're the only tribe that doesn't vote for their people during presidential election out of all tribes in Nigeria. As loved as Ojukwu was to them. They rejected him in the poll and voted OBJ. Same they did against Orji Kalu when he contested in 2007 and voted Yar'adu. They did it against Moghalu in 2019 and voted Atiku. They have never voted massively in favour of their own as a president.

In this, the worst of all is the Fulanis and Hausas. Their own is my own and my own. Where as that took us to? Still a developing or struggling nation.

There is need to break away from this tribalistic voting pattern and face the reality.

You also made mentioned of Tinubu brain not old , even though he is old. Please in your true churchmind can you compare the Tinubu of 1999, 2003 or even 2015 to Tinubu of 2022. Tinubu's vibrancy has deteriorated and his grasp of issues has gone down. Nobody can cheat nature. Tinubu was a good administrator but age and health had taken away his former self. Himself know this but just want to bear the name of president at all course, not minding his state of mind. In years past, Tinubu can never forget the name of his party. Not possible, he will even put style and ginger it to call it. Let us just tell ourselves the gospel truth, Tinubu vibrancy is low and cannot meet up with the activities required of a dying nation that we need a president that will be up and doing and not just seat in Aro Rock ditching out instructions that people will not execute or people will give him false impression that it was done.

As I have said before now, Fashola and Osinbajo are there for him to sponsor but the greed of wanting to bear the nomenclature of president made him to come forward. You said those people cannot match Atiku. Please leave that one. Who was Yar'adu and Jonathan when people voted them? If one of them had been brought out and partner with Zulum, by now the whole southern states would have been shutdown for them. Because many people believe in their intelligence and vibrancy than Tinubu of now.

I do hope you knew when PMB told the IGP to relocate to Benue state during the debacle of herders and farmers clashes and he refused but during interview when they asked PMB that IGP didn't go, his reply is, he didn't know that IGP didn't go. Same he told service chiefs to relocate to north east but many of them still seat in Abuja and never relocated and till date nothing happened. During OBJ can anybody try that because he was personally monitoring everything and not only relying on report brought to him that can be doctored or half truth.

You also claimed that Tinubu is not going there to play football. My friend, this mentality of yours defeats the situation of the country. The work ahead of us in this country is more than someone playing football or carrying brick for laying because the problems of the nation is upon his shoulders and it requires that he start solving them one after the order by being proactive and diligent on duty. You know that Nigeria is a special breed nation that if the leader is not somewhat ruthless and determined to get things done, it won't work.

A wise man says, we cannot continue doing the same thing and aspect different results. Not possible.
We don't need a sidon look president. We need a president that will follow through his word and assignment given, not the one that will seat in Aso rock expecting result or feedback.

And you think if Atiku or any other person wins, they will not favour their tribesmen more that those that are not of their tribe. You must be living in a planet called "Hallucinations" if you think so. Fact remains that OBJ is the only president in the recent Nigerian history that has favored more people of other ethnicity than those of his tribe. And OBJ is considered today a Yoruba man. Did you read what the guy said about NPA test? I've heard a similar story from a lady who once went for police test.

Nigeria is where you see tribalism played out everyday, even in the corporate sector. You can't pretend as if a problem doesn't exist if you really want to solve the problem. And to solve a problem, you need to look at the root cause. That's why a lot of people say the problem of the country is foundational and has to do with the forced union that gave birth to its existence. A marriage of over 60 years that is filled with everyday rancour and fights may never work.

The North continues to give birth like pigs and use their children who are always behind their southern counterparts in education to fill government ministries. They believe the ministries are meant for them and are the only place their children can thrive just because the FCT is in the North. Most ministries are cost centres, they contribute no value and have become epicenters of curruption. A lot of people there are lazy, they do nothing other than draining the scarce resources.

A lot of companies, most of which are in the South, are heavily taxed whilst the tax generated is used to pay the salaries of those in the ministries that do nothing. The South is being treated like slaves that are heavily taxed to pay their masters. Can't you smell coffee? That's why you see the country being highly indebted with little or nothing to show for it. The North doesn't want to do birth control and is not ready to engage its teeming population in productive activities. That act is also contributing to banditry.

SLS once warned them about the danger of thinking that federal ministries are their birth rights but they ignored and lampooned the guy. Let's see for how long they can continue to pay salaries of unproductive workers with scarce resources and borrowed funds. That is why you are where you are as a country. When the private sector is overdrained to the bliss of the unproductive public ministries, then the catastrophe will be high.

I have taken time to read the arguments of both of you and I think that guy is making sense. You're also right in the aspect of Tinubu’s health and age. It's a pity. I don't envy the next president but the fact is if you are in Rome, you must do like a Roman and understand the rules of the competition. Otherwise, you may just be on your own.

caracas:
Same way you afonjas couldnt do shit in any of your yoruba states….
Note … Lagos is a no man’s land not a yoruba state
The igbos have more properties in Lagos than the Yorubas…

You may likely be aware of this: you sounded frustrated in this your comment and appear like someone so obsessed, bitter and about to cry. It also appears you are fearful of what will happen to your interest in Lagos should BAT becomes the president. Don't worry about tomorrow, let God handle it. Sufficient for a day is the evil thereof.

caracas:
The igbos and federal government made it so

Of course, the igbos also developed the best universities in Nigeria which are mostly in the SW while they abandoned the ones in their backyard. Lol... Comments like this will make those Yorubas who ordinarily will not like to vote BAT to have a rethink. Arrogant people are often not talked about in good ways according to the Yoruba epistemology.

shegra58:
So Obi is the right man ? How I wish I could quickly forget what obi did to other tribe in Anambra when he was the governor of the state I only pity any mumu Yoruba supporting Igbo because they're already lost in history

MOST IMPORTANTLY VOTE FOR YOUR CHOICE AND DON'T TRY TO FORCE YOUR OWN CHOICE DOWN MY THROAT BECAUSE IM BATIFIED

But you don't pity the Yorubas supporting killer herdsmen?

IfnobeGod20:
Your piece only corroborated what I have been saying. That the development of Lagos has been steady for ages and had been a bubbling and bursting city for long. People have made Lagos a target city to go as far back due to its peculiarity. But lately different effects introduced by FG also compounded the situation, like the Lagos ports that is the only international port in Nigeria. No goods on cargo comes into Nigeria that is not through Lagos ports why the rest ports had been neglected by FG. Same with airport. So the same with many companies and enterprises, that head offices can either be in Lagos or Abuja. No single importers as at today that doesn't have their warehouses in Lagos.
If FG can decentralize these effects that are giving Lagos much IGR, by opening other ports and airports to international businesses, it will surely open up many states too.

Go and do your research very well. It's the importers, especially from the East, that abandoned the Eastern ports, more importantly the one in Portharcourt and not the FG. One of the reasons given for abandoning it is the relatively high cost of ships berthing there. Enugu Airport is an international one ditto for PH and Kano.

Go and find out, you will discover that the Lagos airports are the only international ones in the West while the old Eastern and Northern regions have two or more international airports that the people there have abandoned. Just do a little search on google. A national daily reports on the international airport in Enugu about 3 days ago. Why are people not using Enugu international airport? Why do we have low levels of activity at PH sea and air ports? Why is everyone headed to the SW?

Is it only Lagos State that has received assistance from the FG? How about the many good roads constructed in the North and other parts of the country? What about the education sector in which you have the leading universities of the country in the SW? Check the THE reports for the past five or more years. Reports had it that so many applications are often received from students from other religions wanting to attend the universitiies in the West. Why? Are the universities in the West also receiving more support and allocations from the FG than the universities in the other regions?

The fact is that you can't develop a place by running away from that place. What is not used will deteriorate. This and so many other reasons are why the people of SW are displeased as they feel their region is being overrun. Apart from Lagos, go to Oyo, Ondo, Ogun and Osun and you will discover the rate at which people from other regions are trooping to those states. The question is why are people abandoning their regions in droves to run to the SW? Is it a curse or something?

IfnobeGod20:
Please does his performance near Fashola's performance? I am just asking. If he was wise, he should have supported someone like Fashola who have untinted record of achievements but his greediness doesn't allow him. If it were Tinubu of 1999 or 2003, we can even manage him but not the Tinubu with memory loss, that are not concurrent and forgetful nowadays. Nigeria is a sick country, we need a vibrant and energetic president, who can work round the clock to save the souls of this country from collapse. There's need for every lovers of this country to think of the future of this country and plan for our unborn generation. Nigeria must rise as the Lord liveth.
Note this, Nigeria is bigger than anyone ambition at the detriment of Nigeria progress.

You are not far from the truth.

IfnobeGod20:
Nobody doubt that but to be making senseless submission as if it was Tinubu that made Lagos what it is today, it is a big lie. Lagos has been a bustling and bubble city for ages and people have been going there immemorial. Tinubu is not the architect of Lagos but FG. If the same FG effects in Lagos is also in Kebbi or Imo or Delta states, they would have also attained the same status.
Let FG open up all the ports and airports in each state for import and export and see what will happen. The Lagos IGR will drastically reduced and will be transfer to other states.

What you know but deliberately argue against is that Lagos naturally attracts investors. That's why people of diverse races and tribes continue to troop to the metropolis. The same reason Lagos, not Calabar or Lokoja, was later made the country's capital.

Kano had been a centre of trade for years too but it has never matched Lagos. It's over 30 years that the capital was moved to Abuja, I bet it that you can take the capital from Abuja today and let's see what becomes of it in the next 30 years.

Ever before the creation of your FG or the 1914 amalgamation, Lagos had been the center of slave and other commodity trades. You can visit Badagry for more education.

If the SW had been allowed to have their country in 1960 and Awolowo allowed to continue with the developmental projects he was carrying out in the Western Nigeria of then, Lagos would still have been developed albeit less crowded and more organized. The region would have earned more money from issuing visa and residence permits.

The Nigerian system and the wave of importation business had led to the death of some companies once operating from the industrial estates built by Awolowo in Western Nigeria of then, including Ikeja which is now part of the modern-day Lagos State. Western Region had its own scholarship for the students of the region back then I think you are aware.

One thing you should know is that the Yorubas have had centuries of a traditional governing system with a check and balance mechanism developed in the form similar to a parliamentary system ever before the advent of the Europeans and that had somehow helped the people of the region in organizing themselves politically.

Nevertheless, other regions of the country also have resources they can really develop with. No region is bereaved of natural and other resources.

kingamaa:
The king maker

The powers that be

One of the best president Nigeria ever had

His approval is vital and significant

Awaiting the visit of the other presidential aspirants

I thought they said Yoruba Christians are their headache and Mathew Obasanjo is considered by them as one of those Yoruba Christians... Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sows the same shall he reap. Galatians 6:7

eternallyfocus:
it's still a game of number sir,it was not buhari turn then.North strongly hold the believe that the power belongs to them...they are ready to lay there life down...they give it to who dey want...northe voted for obansanjo in 1999...the yorubas voted for Olu Falaye ...they didn't support obansanjo then...North brought Obansanjo to power...the truth about power shift in Nigeria is that the Next president must play loyalty to the power blocks otherwise it will be a joke for any presidential candidate...

It wasn't the Northern votes alone that brought OBJ to power. The votes from SE and SS also pushed it. The Northern votes alone cannot make someone a president in Nigeria, neither can the Southern votes alone do it according to the country's constitution. You may again refer to the case of Awolowo in 1979 and the ignoble role played by Richard Akinjide as the lawyer of NPN in the way Richard helped interpret the constitution against the aspiration of the late, revered Sage.

eternallyfocus:
democracy is a game of Number ,let all the people in rccg convetion+ eneuche church + winners..vote for obi..he cannot still win....the North is overwhelmingly populated where one man dey get 30 - 40 children.. then come join say children dey vote...come join say obi na get money to rig election.... sympathy vote cannot help obi win election.....meanwhile nobody we hand over power to ibo...the north believes that is equal to diving NIGERIA.

The North with their numbers could not make GMB the president 3 times. The constitution requires that a candidate must win 25% of votes in the 2/3 (24 out of 36) states of the Federation. It's not just about numbers.

newnigerdelta00:
I'm a Christian I will vote for Muslim to Muslim tickets,my Bible say I should should love my neighbors as my self,my Bible told me to love the old and help the sick....

You must be a christian that denies the Lord Jesus as the Word and Son of God. Lol....

newnigerdelta00:
What's the meaning of Christian's, Christians way build school's way poor nor fit afford,abi which Christians the one's way dey sleep with pastor wife or way pastor get jet's members dey Trek?

I will prefer my pastor who use my money to buy a jet for MISSIONARY works to politicians who loot the treasury recklessly to lead a luxury life, ride on private jets, send their children to big schools abroad, sponsor their cronies to hajj and Jerusalem for tourism, while neglecting public schools to collapse.

If all the monies stolen and spent recklessly were to be channeled to education, no student would like to attend private universities.

Has any pastor ever ruled Nigeria? But how many Alhajis have ruled the country? Abacha's loot is still being recovered till tomorrow. Last time I checked, Abacha, IBB and Co were Muslims who have ruled Nigeria more than their Christian counterparts.

globalview:
Obi cannot even win majority votes in SE talking of other regions

If men were God!

luckyjojo:
This is not about tribalism. It is about saving Nigeria from destruction. Let’s be patriotic for ones

Hmmmm. But is true that Awolowo, who is much revered in the West till tomorrow, was petted with stones in the East? Just asking.

Enceladus:
Omatseye is right after all .

What these people are missing is that religion sentiments doesn't count in the south west.

No, it doesn't count. It only counts in the world of MURIC and on the issue of hijab.

JAMO84:
Two children that constitute ipob terrorists, cocaine pushers all over the world, prostitution in Italy and other parts of the world, Yahoo Yahoo........

Like Ramon, alias hushpuppi right? Lol�

ImperialYoruba:
When canpaign starts, Tinubu's wife, a pastor of RCCG will be there to get a louder ovation.

Pastor Osinbajo will be there to tell congregation why Tinubu is next President and get a louder ovation.

Tinubu himself will be endorsed by Daddy GO and entire church will deliver for APC.

So what is special with Obi's visit and loud ovation, beside just noise?

They don't even need to see Daddy GO or visit any church. What for? Your MURIC professor has told you that Yoruba Christians are your headache. One of you said you constitute 65% of SW population and many of you have described CAN as CAN of worms, meaning Christians are the worms to you. Do you need the votes of people that will give you headache? Do you really need the votes of worms? Leave PO to make the moves he feels can make him win.

OriOko88:
Peter Obi is the definition of the word.."sneaky". No difference between him and Tinubu,using religion to draw the sympathy of the masses. Hes been attending different churches tryna manipulate d church,whick speaks about his personality, a "manipulator".
When does a catholic starts attending redeemed and Dunamis. Did he ever attend those churches when he was Anambra governor?? Only his deluded,and phycotic fans could get trilled. Mio fo rara

That's politics for you. BAT claims MM ticket is a winning strategy. PO is also doing what can earn him victory, one of the reasons he has chosen his VP candidate well. So let's leave the politicians alone to do their thing.

JAMO84:
Why my mind go dey cut on top Christian candidate.


You people have one wife and two children, I will see how your candidate will beat the ones that marry 4 wives and have 20 children.


Peter Obi just destroyed his own political career by making it glaring, that he's a Christian/Igbo candidate

4 wives and 20 children that constitute bandits, terrorists, Okada rider menace, street beggars, land grabbers, agberos, etc. Congratulations! While those with one wife, two children are living fine, building schools, hospitals, establishing businesses, fulfilling a purposeful life as your many children and wives are living like parasites on them. A tour around the streets of major cities in Nigeria will convince you. And when they have created poverty and problems for themselves, they turn to blaming Christians for their woes.

Christistruth00:
The Ebira’s have already Confirmed that all of the arrested are Ebira they were arrested in Okene

Okay.

Christistruth00:
This Particular Idris Ojo is Ebira

Okay. How about Onimisi and Ojowu?

Christistruth00:
Even the SE bear Ojo

Or is Ojo Maduekwe Nigeria's former Foreign Minister not from SE Imo State again?


Ojo,Bisi,Ife,Ofili,Jide, Oke, Keji are some of the few names that both Yorubas and Igbos bear

Ojo Maduekwe may be from South East, but don't forget there are Deltans like the Olukumis who trace their origin to the West. Go and find out. Can you tell us the meaning of Okowa in Ibo? Okowa is from Owa, can you tell us the meaning of Owa in Ibo? Don't forget we have Enu-Owa, Owa-Obokun, etc. in the West. People bearing the names you mentioned are very likely to have affiliation with the Yorubas, either from their maternal or paternal side. Fact!

What about Onimisi and Ojowu who were also mentioned as part of the suspects? While we cannot confirm the accuracy of the report for now, those names somehow have some similarities with the Yorubas.

Christistruth00:
Even the SE bear Ojo

Or is Ojo Maduekwe Nigeria's former Foreign Minister not from SE Imo State again?


Ojo,Bisi,Ife,Ofili,Jide, Oke, Keji are some of the few names that both Yorubas and Igbos bear

Those that bear those names are very likely to have affiliation with Yorubas either from maternal or paternal side.

ivolt:
How is this relevant to my post?
You need relearn comprehension.

Go and read the news very well. Those were the names of the suspects.

Benchilwell:
am really confuse because owo was first before kuje ,may be Idris ojo dey telepath

The guy could have also participated in the Kuje crime after initially working on the Owo Massacre.

ivolt:
The attackers weren't regular kidnappers.
They were ISWAP members out to kill.

The two issues are unrelated.

Ojo, Onimisi, Ojowu, Jimoh are names often borne by Yorubas. Check very well pls.

gawu1:
If you had not made those comments while on influence of npkurummeri, you would have known that those ipob pigs terrorists of afgniEastern are Christians. It is Never recorded in any history that terrorists cannibalised their victims, except ipob pig terrorists. What a dangerous beings!
Or are saying those Christian Catholics who murdered over 400,000 children and women of indigenous Canadians between 1889 and 1996 were not Christians? For over 400 years Christians traded black African people as commodities, over 30 millions of Africans were killed during the period. Led and encouraged by European Christian crusaders, 90% population of indigenous Americans were exterminated by Christian European plantation farmers.
Adolf Hitler and European Christian leaders caused the death of over 60million persons all over the world in their superiority game which they later tagged as world wars.
If you don't know, know it today that the founder of Christianity, Soul who later took to the name Paul after masterminded killing of your god, Jesus was a terrorist.
I urge you to go read about origin of world terrorism. You will know better which people and religion thrived on terrorism.

The European slave traders that invaded Africa did not shout Jehovah is Great when engaging in their enterprise. No, they never said they were in that act for Jesus. A little search on google will get you informed about the Arab-Muslim slave trade era.

There is nothing like Soul transformed to Paul in the Bible. This shows that you dwell on propaganda and the lies fed you by your clerics. It's called Taqqiya to back up the concept known as "Whataboutism". Lier! If Adolf Hitler was a christian as claimed by you, why would he have killed the Jews the most? Did Hitler tell you he was fighting to Christianize Europe or the world?

We were not there when, according to your lies, Soul killed Jesus but we are in the current world witnessing all the evils being pepetrared by the Mohammadans who shout Allah is Great as they enjoy the killings of pregnant women and innocent people. Deborah Samuel's case, Kaduna train attack, Owo Massacre, are among their numerous evil acts all over the world in the recent time.

Aren't you people and your children ashamed as you read of all these evils being perpetrated in the name of your religion? Why is conversion from Islam an apostacy punishable by death in Islam till today?

The Jihadists that invaded Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lybya upto Turkey before they were repelled from advancing to Europe the way the Fulanis were stopped at Osogbo were what? Or you think those countries were originally Islamic countries?

Let's even forget the past centuries and focus on the 21st century, can you mention the terrorist organizations we have across the world today?

Spandau:
But what could be the motives of Ebira people to attack people in the church? Somehow, I don't believe the Ebiras did anything of such.

Check the names very well. It's not an exclusively Ebira thing. Ojo, Ojowu, Onimisi, Jimoh are names often borne by Yorubas. These names sound more of Yoruba Muslims than Ebira please.

00FFT00:
Go take your medication, dude. You obviously missed a dose.

Greedy man, hope what you want to avoid is not gradually happening!

00FFT00:
Just disappear.

Disappear to where? Greedy man who is not satisfied with what God gave to him but is covetous of what belongs to another person. Greed breeds envy, envy breeds murder. This is where your greed has landed you. Forced contraption that has led to blood letting on a daily basis. Why do you always like to attach yourself to someone you hate so much? You said someone is dirty, stinking and treacherous but you always like to cunningly and beggerly attach yourself to the FELLOW. Is that a curse or what? Ingrates are usually GREEDY and ARROGANT.