₦airaland Forum

BatinHisoki:
Igbos is the only tribe in Nigeria that's too tribalistic and us religion in everywhere. You'll see Yoruba Muslims cohabitating with Yoruba christians, you'll see Fulani Muslims with Fulani Christians, you'll see Hausa Muslims with Hausa christians, you'll see Igala, kanuri, ebira Muslims with their Christians living peacefully without any discrimination. But when it comes to Igbo it's not the same. The igbos only respect and show love when you can benefit them

That was true in those days. Things are changing these days. We saw how some Muslims were so bold to be throwning stones at Christians within church premises in Kwara State. How about those Muslims that attacked Christians during night vigils in Kwara State?

chrisvic007:
I know what I'm saying. Ishaq Akintola has an association protecting the interest of Muslims, there is nothing wrong in that.

Farooq Kperogi has not done anything meaningful for Muslims, he is only playing with words to show his academic prowess.

None of these persons has ever mentioned "Yoruba Muslims". It is a creation of nnamdi kanu and made popular on Nairaland by his blindfolded and poorly educated followers.

You goofed. When you wake up from your slumber, google and read "2023: Why There Will Be Religious Civil War In Nigeria If Osinbajo Becomes President — Farooq Kperogi".

None of these people mentioned "Yoruba Muslims" right?

Read: "It’s now time for Yoruba Muslim to be Nigeria president — MURIC jubilate over Tinubu’s declaration".

Read: "2023: MURIC lists eight Yoruba Muslims ‘fit’ for presidency".

Read: "Reactions as group seeks implementation of Sharia Law in South-West"

Finally, this Shittu that says SW population is 65% Muslims must be Ibo - right?

Leave Ibos out of this. It's your envy towards the spread of Christianity in SW that's driving you desperate for the presidency thinking that's the magic wand your christian brothers have been using to multiply. Obasanjo was not desperate to become the president in 1976 and 1999, he was called. Sonekan was called too. Yemi Osinbajo did not take the honour upon himself, he was also called. These people got with ease what MKO of blessed memory struggled in vain to achieve.

While some of you claim to be Yorubas, you fail to understand what your forebears called "Ori" and "Akunleyan". That's why you resolved to pushing for Sharia and hijab as well as dropping your Yoruba names for Arabic names out of desperation, thinking you're building an impregnable barrier.

If CAN had not been playing wisely, the speeches of Farooq and Ishaq would have set the SW on fire. MURIC doesn't want Yoruba Muslims to vote for Yoruba Christian candidates but you people want Yoruba Christians to vote for your candidate - right?

kayperry:
Between islam & xtain which got into Nigeria 1st, which religion did colonial masters bring to Nigeria, these are history a primary school students should know buh so called graduate go on national tv spewing dumbshit ... SS & SE is predominantly a xtain state with @least 90% xtains, asides that fact No state in entire south is predominantly a muslim state, its no brainer why muslim muslim ticket dominated the north and if xtain xtain dominate the south it only justapose the dominating population within the south. no be only 65% he should have rounded it up to 70%

If Colonial masters brought Christianity to Nigeria, who brought Islam? The Yorubas were originally traditionalists. It's on record that Ife, known as the cradle of the Yorubas, has just one day, out of 365 days, on which no sacrifice is offered. Go and get education, little boy.

diadem10:
Tinubu's campaign team are not doing a good job. What's this?

Emphasis should be laid on competency, not religion.. Yorubas don't kill people because of religion.

Instead talk about Tinubu's competency and his legacies in Lagos state. His pedigree and everything...

Competency should always take the cake regardless of your religion. Your religion doesn't make you a competent person.

They are demarketing him, thinking they are campaigning for him.

chrisvic007:
Stop writing thrash. When we see this type of nonsense we know who the purveyors are - Igbo people - and it is always found on Nairaland. Truth is there is no Yoruba Christian or Yoruba Moslem. We are Yoruba.

This division of Yoruba along religious divide was created by the mad hunch backed albino you refer to as your saviour. In reality, there is no extended family in Yoruba land that will not have a mixture of Christians, Moslems and traditionalists.

The last gubernatorial elections in Osun state ought to educate you that Yorubas have risen above primordial religious sentiments. Osun state has a preponderance of Muslim population, yet they voted a Christian - Christian ticket.

Be that it may, the south west will vote massively for Tinubu in 2023, including the good peoples of Oyo and Osun state. It will shock your hatred filled mind.

Whichever way you look at things, Tinubu is your next president. Nobody will join you to vote against their son

Ishaq Akintola, Farooq Kperogi and Shittu must be Ibos. Keep deceiving yourself.

AlphaTaikun:
@Sweetplum, note this.

Alhaji Lateef Jakande and Chief Rafiu Jafojo won the UPN Guber election in Lagos State from 1979 to 1983 and they were both Muslims.
Most of the Ijebu and Awori Yorubas who are indigenes of Lagos State are Muslims with family members of other faiths!

Nobody raised eyebrows and Chief Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, raised their hands in 1979 and 1983 to endorse them. The Yorubas have had NO issues with these religious permutations. It is majorly where you have majority religions that there is usually religious bigotry and it is sickening to me and many right thinking folks. Asiwaju Tinubu is from the South and Shetima is from the North so APC has fulfilled the constitutional duty in having candidates for thee Presidential election. Tinubu's wife of over 40 years is a Christian woman. How much more tolerant can a Muslim be? Tinubu has been very tolerant to have allowed his wife who has an Ijebu-Yoruba father and an Itsekiri mother to practice her faith and this is pure LOVE. Senetor Oluremi too celebrates her husbands Muslim festival as-and-when due. This is the way Yorubas live their lives and NOT all this PURE bigotry from a section of Nigeria.

It is the so-Christians that have really embarrased everybody with their intolerance. This event has shown that many who claim they are Christians are NOT really so. Christians especially from the SE, SS, and the Middle Belt have a lot to learn from Tinubu and others in religious tolerance. Even the Buhari's 2nd-in-Command, the late 'Tunde Idiagbon [who had Fulani roots with some Yoruba family ties] was adviced by Gen. Muhammed Buhari now PMB back in the 1980s to leave his Christian wife alone to practice her faith and not force her. This is what some of the bigoted younger generation online don't understand. They just like to spread hate speech based on rabid emotions.


I'm NOT a Muslim, but I have read about many religions to get to understand them and be tolerant in life. Period.

A christian indeed you are! You must have been living in Jupiter when Ishaq Akintola openly declared that any party the fields a Yoruba Christian as presidential candidate will not get the support of the Yoruba Muslims. I guess you went for vacation in the Venus when Farooq Kperogi openly declared that having Yemi Osinbajo as APC presidential candidate will cause religious war. Does PYO look like someone that can cause a religious war to a right-thinking fellow? May be you were on excursions to Mars when your people decided to invade Christian schools in SW with hijab. Christians are not tolerant - right? You must have traveled to the Mercury when Yoruba Muslim teenagers from Kwara State killed an RCCG pastor in Festac late last year while the latter accommodated and sheltered them.

The education and development that the SW and indeed the entire Nigeria enjoy till today were benefits of Christianity. Can you dispute that?

CommonSense1967:
Yes.
Most of the Indigenous people of the SW are Muslims. Even a lot of the SW Christians were previously Muslims or born into Muslim families.

Yorubas were originally neither Muslims nor Christians. They were traditionalists. Can you tell us the meaning of EFUNroye Tinubu in Islam? Can you tell us the meaning of IFAsola shortened to 'FASOLA in Islam? I won't ask you to consult google for your assertion. If Yoruba Muslims are 65% of the SW population, then the Christians should be just around 25% and others 10%. Be ready to use your PVC to justify this assertion in 2023. Peradventure BAT fails to achieve his "life-long" ambition in 2023, people like Shittu should be held responsible for it.

Aldol:
Tilting this coming election based on religion is very dangerous and will do more harm than good. Don't denigrate any religion because of politics, just vote for your preferred candidate

Go and tell that to MURIC and Farooq Kperogi.

Verysmart101:
Shut up joor!!! Are they more populated than the Catholic church of Anglican church?isn't it all these shop churches they occupy accross the federation?No Christian in Nigeria will ever vote for Tinubu cos it's shows he has no good intentions for Nigeria.Shame on you APC swine

Don't mind him. He thinks shop churches count. The catholic church to which PO belongs has the highest number of members in Nigeria and they are the ones that will make him win the next year election.

Aldol:
Who is Muric? Apart from social media, no one regards him in southwest. Stop living in delusion

Who is MURIC you say?

Levinas:
Lol. Every street is an understatement. RCCG has branches in every family. For your information Catholic are 23.4 million. Anglicans are 12 million. RCCG is merely 2.3 million. Do your research before you disgrace yourself. �����

Since the Catholic church, to which PO probably belongs, has the highest number of members according to you, hope their votes can make PO the president in the next election. Are you satisfied now?

Levinas:
You are very correct. RCCG is the biggest Church in Nigeria. infact, they are about 200 million. Their structure is so great that the Catholic pays tithe to RCCG. infact, RCCG will determine the next Pope. ����

No issue here. Pope is for the Catholic church world wide and not for all Christians. But whether Catholic or Anglican or RCCG, that's no issue here at all.

BIZNess123:


Court is still there.....

Meanwhile tinubu will get a million plus votes in osun.. knowingly fully well power is coming to the west...the people will be heavily batified..

Meanwhile tinubu has no other choice other than to pick a Muslim...cus APC majority votes comes from the NW since Yoruba Muslim aren't seen as real Muslim he has no other choice my.

Besides he will get majority of christian votes bc of his wife (RCCG pastor)


RCCG has the highest population of any church in Nigeria..

No be only RCCG. You want the Christians to vote your party after calling them all sort of names? No be deceit be this? If CAN, which represents Christians, is called CAN of warms, don't you think the Christians are the ones you regard as warms? Apart from RCCG, what about other Christians? How about all the GOs that you people have subjected to all kind of verbal attacks not to mention the priests and pastors that have been killed?

According to that your Islamic professor, "We see Osinbajo as the arrowhead of the RCCGisation of the Nigerian polity... We will reject any party that promotes Redeemisation by forcing an RCCG pastor on Muslim electorates." MURIC in Punchng of February 19, 2022. I doubt you understand the level of damages done by you guys.

Bash92:
Omo Igbo stop the religious stupidity. Go and divide your easterners not us here

Where is this one coming from? Are you just waking up or something? Go and read the post I responded to and understand who's dividing you people along religious lines. Am I Ganduje who advised his people living in Osun to vote for Oyetola because Tola is a Muslim? Am I AbduRosheed of Iwo land who promised to give 90,000 votes to the incubemt governor? Abegi.

osazsky:
not our biz..provided apc doesn't win Osun and presidency any idiot will be our president apart from evil apc

Anybody? Even if the most devilish of humans?

franchasofficia:
Tinubu won't lose Osun in 2023, don't quote me wrongly.


Osun is the most Muslim populated state in Yoruba land.


APC will get between 35 to 50% of the Osun votes, PDP will get like 30, Labour Party like 15% while AAC will get around 7 to 8%

Keep deceiving yourself. This is how some of you with unguarded utterances and behaviours made APC an Islamic party. Have you seen the results from all the 30 LGAs in Osun State? How far about the 90k votes your Muslim Oba of Iwo land promised? You forgot that Osun is the state of origin of some renowned pastors in Nigeria, including Adeboye.

You arrogant people and your confused professors are the ones that will make APC to lose the other elections coming if care is not taken.

Brushstrokes20:
Dammmmmmmmnnnn it! Another one

May Lugard continue to rot in the hottest part of hell for amalgamating cows with humans

The doomed contraption is long overdue for DISINTEGRATION

Stop blaming Lugard who is long dead. Between 1914 that the amalgamation was done and 1960 that you got independence, you had enough signs to know that the marriage would not work. Ahmadu Bello once requested that North should be carved out but your leaders persuaded him. Not enough, another of your leaders was against the secession clause (similar to the referendum clause) being inserted in the constitution. Greed, love of money, and fear of unknown are all the cause of the fake union, not Lugard.

HilcomTech:
Very simple.

Which respect are you talking about with jungle justice? Did you even hear what the guy said to confirm the blasphemy? Some people said the person accused of blasphemy was a Muslim, do you think a Muslim would have plasphemed? Can't you see that something must be wrong?

SugarGirl44:
What's the essence of religion is politics?
Both the Muslims a d Christians have brought the country to this sorry state.

Where are the traditional worshipers? They should start contesting too.
Seems they're the ones who are truly godly, even atheists are more trustworthy than the so called religious people.

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Stop rationalizing evils. Tell us how many Muslims have been killed by Christians on the ground of blasphemy.

Nvestor02:
[b]You still don't get it or should I say you get it but want to change narrative of the bible to sweet your opinion.

The very first thing I see about Christianity is that it is a religion of Opinion..... You guys with little knowledge park up religion, give it name, and spread it with Culture around the world.

If Jesus Accepted that the people can follow the law of Moses, but not what pharisee do. what does that mean,?

It means Jesus only Condemned the Extremist Act of The pharisee, The evil that they are doing not the religion and the law they are practicing.

Even till today, we have many people that preach standard word of God and direct people to do good but can't do it themselves.

God doesn't give total freedom to anybody in this world..... God want us to be guided, with law, love, religion so that we won't go astray.

When Adam when In Garden of Aden... He doesn't have total freedom... Satan gives him the freedom and God vex for am.

The First Nation that gives freedom to their people in the world is Sodom And Gomorrah... Overwhelmed Freedom made them to start doing all sort of thing that against the God command in the name of Humanity and this lead to how God vex for them and Finnish Dem all.

The Old jewish are Guided... Even Jesus is guided... Jesus never brake any law of Moses that is why he is tagged sinless man.

The very first mistakes of the Jews is that they don't believe him... If they do, and allow him to eradicate some law that God sent him to eradicate.

They would still retain their position as best religion by now.[/b]

How did you mean by not having total freedom please?

The same Jesus says, "So if the Son sets you FREE, you will be FREE INDEED." John 8:36. Besides, did I even mention TOTAL FREEDOM in my points above? If you believed that Jesus does not support extremism, how would you describe overwhelming a whatsapp group chat that was meant for class discussions with religious issues?

If Jesus is tagged the sinless one for not breaking the laws of Moses, according to you, how was He able to attain that height and who else among mankind has been so tagged? Does it mean that every other person has broken the laws of Moses?

Christianity is not a religion per se but a lifestyle that is lived by FAITH.

Again, can you provide one example of where Jesus condemned any man to death on the ground of blasphemy?

What I have said and will continue to emphasize is that you can fulfill what the laws say easily by being guided by the spirit of Love. When I say Love, I mean love and not lust or lustful desires.

This also applies to the law makers themselves. If they are guided by the spirit of love, they will not make draconian laws or laws that are intended to ambush fellow citizens. Making draconian laws or making laws for selfish purposes may draw antagonism from the governed.

If judges are guided by the Spirit of love, they will not upturn the case of the innocent, the poor, and the less privileged.

Many religious people of today are not different from the pharisees and teachers of Jesus' time. They are good at passing the laws but they themselves do so many bad things in the secret and don't keep the laws wholly. Examples of such abound around. They will answer to their Maker.

The world is not about Christianity, Islam, and Judaism alone, there are so many religions in the world. There are people that don't even believe that there's God. We can't FORCE our beliefs on them but we may gain them through LOVE. Love does not support shedding of innocent blood.

Love is the appropriate BICYCLE for DISPENSING the laws. It is the CARROT that should go with the STICK (law) . Love does not mean evil doers should not be punished but that their punishment should be in a just measure. Love is the basis of Equity. Love does not covet what belongs to someone else, it does not trespass on another man's portion. Love is not proud, according to the Bible. 1 Corinthians 13:4.

Could you imagine a situation where someone that stole a chicken is sentenced to death while someone that has looted the country dry is asked to pay ₦500k as punishment? There's no love in that.

The Jews did not agree with Jesus basically because He came with THE NEW LAW OF LOVE. They must have been expecting someone that's brutal and aggressive as their Messiah to deliver them as they were under the rules of the Romans at the time of Jesus. Jesus came to them as a meek TEACHER at that time but He will come back as a fearsome JUDGE.

Mark 14:60-62

60Then the HIGH PRIEST stood up before them and asked Jesus, “Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?” 61But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer.

Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”

62“I am,” said Jesus. “And YOU WILL SEE the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Nvestor02:
[[s]quote author=MDM2021 post=113060705]

1.For the sake of knowledge, can you provide evidence of the word Ellah being used to mean God in the Bible? I'm aware of Eli as in Eli-Jah, not Ellah or Illah.

2. Jesus emphasizes that the whole laws and prophets of the old testament hang on 2 laws: love for God and law for your neighbours. Matthew 22: 37-40. Are you sure someone that loves his neighbour would have killed them the way Deborah was killed?

3. Jesus came to fulfill the objectives of the law of Moses in a new dimension i.e. by LOVE and not in the way it was practiced in the old testament. Otherwise, He would have supported the killing of the woman caught in adultery. Rather, He told the woman, "Go and sin no more". John 8:3-11.

4. If Jesus were to keep the law of Moses as being practiced in the old testament, He would not have been accused of breaking the Sabbath by healing the sick on the Sabbath day. Jesus told them that the Sabbath was created for men and not otherwise. By this, He let them know that the sanctity of human lives is more important in the sight of God than the law of Sabbath. Mark 2:23-28

5. What did Jesus mean by saying that the Son of Man is the Lord of Sabbath, knowing that the law that established Sabbath was part of the laws of Moses? Who is the Son of Man? Mark 2:28

6. Keeping law strictly cannot save because the law itself is weak and that is why it keeps undergoing ammendments as the human societies change. Romans 8:3-4. The objective of the law is to keep a sane society but an old law may not always reflect the reality of the new and ever-changing world.

7. Having a mind filled with love will guide you better than that filled with laws, especially in those areas of life not covered by laws. The Bible says, Love is the fulfillment of laws. Jesus himself says, " a NEW LAW I give unto you that you should LOVE one another. John 13:34. Can you show a Bible reference where Jesus advocated the continuity of Mosaic practices? John 13:34

8. What Jesus says is,"I have come to fulfill the laws". Matthew 5:17. Fulfilling the laws means achieving the objectives of the laws, which were to keep a sane society. What Jesus was saying in particular is that He wanted the fulfillment of the laws through genuine love for God and mankind. Killing in the way Deborah was murdered never demonstrates a show of Love. Agreed?

9. Jesus himself was gifted to the sinful world by God as a show of Love. John 3:16.

10. Love is the fulfillment of the laws. If you loved your neighbour sincerely, you would not covet their spouse nor think of murdering them. Romans 13:8-10.

11.There would be more peace in the world if people would show love to their neighbours and nations. Curruption is endemic in the society today, not because there are no laws against curruption but because laws are weakened by the flesh and also because love is absent. Romans 8: 3-4. Why do we still have law breakers even in the societies with strict laws? The human nature is never and can never be perfect. Laws can be enacted by the State, but those laws can actually and easily be fulfilled where love is demonstrated even in the enactment of those laws.

12. If politicians and civil servants really loved the poor masses, they would not wait for any law against stealing to be enacted before desisting from looting the treasury. That's what Jesus means by "fulfilling the laws" , not the restoration of the old Mosaic ways as claimed by you. If the old testament was not faulty, there wouldn't have been need for the new testament. "A NEW LAW I give unto you". John 13:34.

13. According to the Bible, if you break any of the laws you break all the laws. James 2:10. This is where the hypocrisy of those who enjoy jungle justice is sometimes exposed. Can those who murdered Deborah swear before their Maker that they were holier than her or have never sinned? Can you or anyone else claim they have never sinned? If God were to kill for every sin committed including those committed in the secret, are you sure any mankind would have remained on earth today?

14. If blasphemy has been considered a punishable offence in Europe, is the punishment by death? And is the punishment also to be handled by the accusers? You have been silent about these. [/s]

[b]Lol... Ellah is used more than 50 times in the bible... Ellah is the name for God in Aramaic and it's fluently used in the bible.

Allah An Ellah is similar a thing .. the clerification of Ellah has shows that Allah is not idol that most of you guys ignorantly claimed.

Read the photo reference below for confirmation.

Another point I want to talk about is LOVE.. love is not a command, it's a something we can do even without the presence of any religion.

Love and hate are feelings that grows up with us... All prophets preach love. Jesus was not first person to preach it nor the last.

If Christians practice Love as most of you claimed.... You won't be going to other people's land and Shows a strong Hatred to their beliefs.

Northerners doesn't stop them from building church or preaching people to take Jesus as their God......In as much I don't support jungle justice... But if Christians are full of love as they claimed, you won't find joy in hating and insulting another people's religion just because they refuse to worship a man.

The other point I want to talk about how you said Jesus abolished the Commandments of God through Moses.

That is a blatant lie... Even Jesus ordered the people follow in law and the teaching of Moses and also said he didn't come to change it but to fulfill it.

[b[i]]In Mathew 23: Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his followers. Jesus said, “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees have the authority to tell you what the law of Moses says. So you should obey and follow whatever they tell you. But their lives are not good examples for you to follow. They tell you to do things, but they don’t do the things themselves.[/b][/i]

This shows that Jesus stamped the law and preach of Moses and even encouraged people to follow it... But it kick against how most of the pharisee doesn't practice it for themselves.

Jesus know the guidelines of Moses... And he works in line with it... What he against is extremely.... The pharisee punish people for every single sin. But they commit more sin themselves.

I keep saying it that The stamped way of worship God is old Jewish way which all laws are recognize and everybody followed it.....

Only extremist is not Good...... That is why Islam came as new model of Judaism.

But there are some extremnism that we need to kill too.[/b]

1. According to you, Jesus admonished that people should do what the teachers and pharisees taught but not what they PRACTICED. Why? Because of their HYPOCRISY. Because it's easier SAID than DONE. I have explained to you earlier that you will find it easier to fulfill the laws through love. Can you point me to where I said Jesus abolished the laws. Learn to read with patience and understanding, and not with violence in heart. Jesus came to fulfill the laws THROUGH THE DEMONSTRATION OF LOVE.

2. Again can you in your secret heart say you have kept all the laws and have never sinned? If God were to punish every mankind for all their sins, who would be alive today?

3. Can you provide ONE example of where Jesus supervised the killing of people on the ground of blasphemy or whatever? Just ONE example please.

4. Are you aware Jesus Himself was accused of Blasphemy? Why was He accused of Blasphemy since He was an adherent of the laws of Moses as explained by you?

5. You said, "In Mathew 23: Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his followers. Jesus said, “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees have the authority to tell you what the law of Moses says. So you should obey and follow whatever they tell you. But their lives are not good examples for you to follow. They tell you to do things, but they don’t do the things themselves"

If you believe this verse of the new testament, do you believe every part of the new testament? It's hypocritical to believe a part and disbelieve the others.

6. If you believe the Bible verse quoted by you above, do you also believe Mark 14:61-62? "61 But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer.

Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”

62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven"

7. If you claimed the new testament is currupted, can the word of God be currupted? Does it mean God cannot preserve His words through generations? Can you you provide the original manuscript?

It takes someone to have the original of something before they can identify its fake.

8. If the Aramaic Bible calls God Elah, the Arabic Bible calls God Allah, what does the Hebrew Bible call God? Repeat, I have read the English Bible and have not seen where God is called Elah. Every tribe or race has a name it calls God. I'm aware God is called Yahweh in Hebrew.

9. I will rather accept a "fake" way of worship that is based on love and mercy than an "original" way that supports death, hypocracy, violence, mob killing and all sort of babaraic acts.

Nvestor02:
1) [b]Pls bring out your fact about this

2) there has been a lot of Hadith that has been writing by Christians and non Muslim to bastardized islam.... Hadith has been banned in Saudi.

3) lol this kind of lies is not even moderate... There are history books that kick against your evil claim.

4) marrying a one wife is European culture... 80% of bible characters marry more than one wife.

5) do Muhammad SAW have a son? This write up is not clear.

6) The closest language to Arabic is Aramiac and they called God Ellah or Illah in the language.... Arabic people call theirs Allah.

THE word Ellah was even used in the bible.

7) When nothing works well and the son of Isaac broke all promises that their forefathers did with God... God try Ismael child and it's works.

8 Nothing like Zoroastrianism in Islam... What you just see is culture of Arab not part of Islam.

The only way God assign to worship him is the way of Old jewish System..... Many force prophet bastardized it.

Jesus Come to reinstall it in new way.... Urge the them to practice Moses law in a polite way but they misunderstood him and accused him of blasphemy.

God later send Muhammad SAW to reinstall islam... Which is now new version of Judaism.

9) Salam means peace but religion of Islam means those who practice religion of peace and follow the comand of God just like Jesus, Moses and other prophets.

10) Mary and Aron were both descendants of Levi... Check your Bible for confirmation... It's not to bad to call people who come from the same root brother and sister.

Jesus and David are descendants of Judah and bible call them Father and son.[/b]

1.For the sake of knowledge, can you provide evidence of the word Ellah being used to mean God in the Bible? I'm aware of Eli as in Eli-Jah, not Ellah or Illah.

2. Jesus emphasizes that the whole laws and prophets of the old testament hang on 2 laws: love for God and law for your neighbours. Matthew 22: 37-40. Are you sure someone that loves his neighbour would have killed them the way Deborah was killed?

3. Jesus came to fulfill the objectives of the law of Moses in a new dimension i.e. by LOVE and not in the way it was practiced in the old testament. Otherwise, He would have supported the killing of the woman caught in adultery. Rather, He told the woman, "Go and sin no more". John 8:3-11.

4. If Jesus were to keep the law of Moses as being practiced in the old testament, He would not have been accused of breaking the Sabbath by healing the sick on the Sabbath day. Jesus told them that the Sabbath was created for men and not otherwise. By this, He let them know that the sanctity of human lives is more important in the sight of God than the law of Sabbath. Mark 2:23-28

5. What did Jesus mean by saying that the Son of Man is the Lord of Sabbath, knowing that the law that established Sabbath was part of the laws of Moses? Who is the Son of Man? Mark 2:28

6. Keeping law strictly cannot save because the law itself is weak and that is why it keeps undergoing ammendments as the human societies change. Romans 8:3-4. The objective of the law is to keep a sane society but an old law may not always reflect the reality of the new and ever-changing world.

7. Having a mind filled with love will guide you better than that filled with laws, especially in those areas of life not covered by laws. The Bible says, Love is the fulfillment of laws. Jesus himself says, " a NEW LAW I give unto you that you should LOVE one another. John 13:34. Can you show a Bible reference where Jesus advocated the continuity of Mosaic practices? John 13:34

8. What Jesus says is,"I have come to fulfill the laws". Matthew 5:17. Fulfilling the laws means achieving the objectives of the laws, which were to keep a sane society. What Jesus was saying in particular is that He wanted the fulfillment of the laws through genuine love for God and mankind. Killing in the way Deborah was murdered never demonstrates a show of Love. Agreed?

9. Jesus himself was gifted to the sinful world by God as a show of Love. John 3:16.

10. Love is the fulfillment of the laws. If you loved your neighbour sincerely, you would not covet their spouse nor think of murdering them. Romans 13:8-10.

11.There would be more peace in the world if people would show love to their neighbours and nations. Curruption is endemic in the society today, not because there are no laws against curruption but because laws are weakened by the flesh and also because love is absent. Romans 8: 3-4. Why do we still have law breakers even in the societies with strict laws? The human nature is never and can never be perfect. Laws can be enacted by the State, but those laws can actually and easily be fulfilled where love is demonstrated even in the enactment of those laws.

12. If politicians and civil servants really loved the poor masses, they would not wait for any law against stealing to be enacted before desisting from looting the treasury. That's what Jesus means by "fulfilling the laws" , not the restoration of the old Mosaic ways as claimed by you. If the old testament was not faulty, there wouldn't have been need for the new testament. "A NEW LAW I give unto you". John 13:34.

13. According to the Bible, if you break any of the laws you break all the laws. James 2:10. This is where the hypocrisy of those who enjoy jungle justice is sometimes exposed. Can those who murdered Deborah swear before their Maker that they were holier than her or have never sinned? Can you or anyone else claim they have never sinned? If God were to kill for every sin committed including those committed in the secret, are you sure any mankind would have remained on earth today?

14. If blasphemy has been considered a punishable offence in Europe, is the punishment by death? And is the punishment also to be handled by the accusers? You have been silent about these.

Hadeylex:
Where was MURIC when Aregbesola spent 8 years as governor of Osun State and Oyetola as governor for 4 years while he is still vying for the post for another 4 years? If he returns, then Osun will be having Muslim as governors for 16 consecutive years!

But for the word, 'consecutive', the 4 years done by Akande have already made 16 years of Muslim governorship in Osun State.

One thing about MURIC is that Akintola and his co-travellers like to play victims and dish out lies.

A simple search on google will reveal the religious composition of Lagos House of Assembly members. Alhaji Adedibu was a de-facto ruler of Oyo State for years but MURIC was 'non-existent' then.

MURIC said Yoruba Christians are his headache but will hardly comment on those looting the nation dry, those maiming and killing farmers in the South West, or his fellow alfas engaging in skull mining.

I read a lot of comments here that the Yoruba culture and identity come first. That's politics. These are the same people that will tell you their religion comes first justifying why their Arabic names are their first names.

They claim their Christian kinsmen are bigots and intolerant for not accepting hijab but at the same time they want to claim that their traditions come first and would not comment over the death of Timothy in Rahman's hotel in Osun State or the killing of an RCCG pastor in Festac by some Muslim boys from Kwara just because the pastor accommodated them.

If you don't patronize their hotels or accommodate them they accuse you of bigotry.

I wouldn't know what's left of someone's cultural identity whose names, mode of dressing, and practices have been replaced by the foreign ones.

It appears some of them are confused or just don't know what they want or where they are headed. My observation is that Akintola and Co are deeply envious of their Christian kinsmen for their national and international success in the recent time. Apparently, Akintola must have been very bitter!

aribisala0:
Lagos state indigenes are majority Muslim.
In SW Lagos State has greatest proportion of indigenous Muslims.

Almost all traditional rulers in Lagos state are Muslim. Islam has been in Lagos even before the Sokoto Caliphate
Do not take my word for it
Research the first class Obas in Lagos state

So, the late Oyekan was one? How about the following?

Past Obas of Eko

King Ado.
King Gabaro ( 1720- 1730)
Eletu Kekere ( 1730- 1734)
King Akinsemoyin ( 1734- 1779)
Erelu Kuti(female)
King Ologun Kutere.
King Adele ( 1806- 1813), ( 1834- 1836)
King Eshinlokun ( 1836- 1841)

Kyari79:
They are not good ambasadors of ALLAH

If clerics like this who are considered to be alfas (alphas - the people in the front) and their followers like those that murdered Deborah are not good ambassadors of allah, then where can the good ambassadors be found? It simply means neither the leaders nor the followers are good representatives. Most of these people tend to envy their Christian counterparts, especially those pastors with international reach, and perhaps they feel the only way they can compete with them is by rituals. The power of the Holy Spirit is what makes the difference. Ritual practices by the so called alfas are becoming too much. From Lagos to Ekiti, Ogun to Osun, Oyo to Kwara and even Ondo.

Encyclopedia1:
Ori n tayin sir. The one u did and said till they locked u up for stealing in Ilesha abi. Continue. U are doing Takaful Insurance now, sebi u fought against it then too but it came to stay. Sharia court will come to stay. Is anyone imposing sharia on christians? No. Will the law affect christians? No. So what is the problem of this Nasara people?

If sharia will be allowed in Yoruba land, then the Christians should come up with thier own law, and the traditionalists should also come up with their own laws. The state laws should be trashed. There shouldn't be State schools, each religion's devotees should build their schools. Since, the state doesn't have authority in the issuance of laws, the state apparatus cannot be used to adjudicate on those laws or enforce them. In that case, their will be no state government. Each region should therefore provide their own police. Isn't this okay by you? This is what CAN or PFN should push for.

BeansAndBread:
Did you read the verse I gave you? Do you know if you deny any verse from the Quran, you become keferi? I know Africa has its religion but I'm a Muslim and Nigeria being a secular doesn't mean I can't rule by the laws of my religion

Then the Christians can also demand for their own laws. CAN should stand up and draft the laws with which Christians in Nigeria should be governed. By that, the Nigerian constitution can be shred. Isn't this okay by you?

irunoko:
I'm saying ASSUMING IT HAPPENED.please read properly.we know the religion that has murderous tendencies and has shown that over the years

So, if Christians have never killed for their religion in the past, how can you assume that no eyebrow would have been raised if Muslims were to be at the receiving end the way Deborah was?

Fashsilo:
Let try to bridle our tounge..even bible say Is not every thing you see that you must talk out..cause you can't tell someone to abolish Their culture, tradition or religion so therefore this more reason we have to becarefull when you are in another man's land...but still she doesn't deserve to die that way

Were you there to have known she said it? You physically saw her there? Apparently, you were there and it all happened in your presence? This is how jungle justice starts when people decided to believe hearsay.

PrinceMajestic:
that is where your fanatic nature comes in. I am not afraid of them then, but how did I start going to join them? 2 of my Islamic friends convinced me to go inside the mosque with them 1 evening for Ishai prayers and they helped me with ablution rites b4 entering, so after that night another early morning b4 the imam started calling for prayers I was already in the mosque it was in my presence he started calling for early morning prayers and I was just behind the imam when everyone had gathered but I was surprised that nobody came to me to order me to go stand in the back for being young or non Muslim, the old men even directed me how to stand well in the first role just behind the imam, I have never felt such sense of equality in any religion unlike church where front seats are reserved for the wealthy only and you will be taken to back seat to sit down if you go to the front seat, so since that experience I loved them and wanted to join, I always went to the prayers with them because I love how they do it not because I'm afraid. Nah, calm down the killers are guilty of religious extremism so was the victim. How could she have called post about their holy prophet nonsense? Was it right? When she knows these guys are extreme about their faith? If she's not a religious fanatic there wouldn't have been need for her to call Islamic posts "nonsense" it was very offensive. If a Christian has posted those things about Jesus would she have called it nonsense? It's a simple matter. Religious tolerance! Section 37 of the Constitution gives all Nigerians right to practice their religious beliefs openly anywhere in teaching, writing, and in behavior without any interference from any body. Did the Mohammed post hurt her in anyway? If yes then she is a fanatic herself because if she wasn't why didn't she exit the group if they were posting contents she didn't like rather than insult their faith as nonsense? Christians should change their behavior of "only my faith is good, others are evil" is very bad, that was how a Muslim was praying in front of shop in Kano and a Christian woman who is a pastor's wife was interrupting him aggressively that he should getaway from front of her shop, we all knew how that woman ended. Let us respect each other's beliefs, it will cost us nothing. Like I said she caused it on herself, she knew how they were b4 she called posts about Mohammed "Nonsense" , pls be wise

You need to read what you have written again. I would rather go to where rich people are allowed to sit in the front but human lives are regarded sacred than where they kill because of a prophet. What is the big deal in sitting in the front seats compared to human lives?

Salihusaliheen:
if u live with them u must obey their law

And down South, do they obey their laws? You can't have your laws foisted on those who are not adherents of your faith as long as you want a united country.

irunoko:
imagine it was the other way round where Christians gathered to burn a muslim.nobody go sleep for that street.you go see the full animalistic nature of head slammers

Tell us where it has ever happened in Nigeria that Christians killed a Muslim because the fellow insulted Jesus Christ or Jehovah. Just give us an example and we can bring many instances of Muslims killing Christians, especially in the North, because of their religion.