₦airaland Forum

00FFT00:
And it is celebrated to murder for body parts sold in open markets for those purposes only your supposed pious people are famous for.
My friend, go hide your head in shame.

Who and where is your friend? I guess you are aware of where cannibalism is still being practised till today based on your comments. You must have bought human parts before for you to know where they are being sold. When discussion about how kidnapping for ransom was introduced to your country, I'm sure you know the name that rings a bell.

Again, in my place, when criminals are caught nobody celebrates them. In your place, when criminals are caught, you don't castigate them. If outsiders castigate them, you'll say it's hatred and envy. To you, criminal activities are part of business. The focus is on money, not matter how it's made. Got the difference?

00FFT00:
I wish I have the liberty to descend to your pedestal. Rid yourself of whatever makes you have the need to disgrace yourself publicly.

I'm not sorry for you if you're pained. Where I come from, nothing brings more shame and disgrace PUBLICLY to a person than arrogance, greed, stealing and their sister vices. We celebrate good achievements but we don't worship money. You heard?

00FFT00:
First, you are confused and consumed by your parochial viewpoint.
Second, no one asked or is interested in your personal definition of GREED and ARROGANCE. What you are suffering from is envy and an inferiority complex.

That said, I have hinted that your knowledge of the true events of the time you continue to hammer about is very limited. You may notice that I have been very reluctant to engage you in a serious discussion. What I will, however, leave you with today is a piece of advice: stop the hate mongering.

Yoruba have no leverage against the people you unrepentantly chose to visit your insecurities upon. You have more to gain in a productive partnership with Igbo than the lingering acrimony your people have enmeshed yourselves in regarding your hardworking neighbors from the east. Your problems have a geographical bearing northwest of your location. Face it, if you are men.

I'm out.

Of course, you have to be out when the heat is much and not come back. And who cares about your definition of envy and inferiority complex Mr Jacky? Anyone that rises to checkmate your greed and arrogance is automatically tribalistic and contemptuous of you. Hardworking my foot. Go and get education about druggy and money laundering before you come here spewing rubbish. Which business are you doing? I look like one of those you can put wools in their eyes? Google the list of those being constantly arrested across ports and land borders for druggy and check their concentration, Mr hardworking. I have told you before that GREED and ARROGANCE are twin brothers.

00FFT00:
It so happens that some of the Igbos you are contemptuous about have been on their toes asking to be let go from the Nigeria contraption. Will it not benefit your tribal disposition to join their campaign to peacefully leave so they's need Visas to visit their businesses investments, homes, and properties in Lagos?.

Your veiled attempt to divorce the fraudulent balkanization of an otherwise near culturally homogenous people in what your fulani slave masters taught you to be southeast and south-south Nigeria fails. I fail to see even a fuzzy nexus between an Edo man or itshekiri man to an Ibibio or Annang. That is not the case for the Igbo.

For starters, there are more Yorubas in oil and gas employment in the regions mentioned than indigenes of these places in my personal observation. When are you also gonna call for their immediate disengagement, Mr tribalist?.

Nobody is comtemptous of the Ibos as a people. What is disliked, if you had read my comments very well, is GREED and ARROGANCE. And if you call hatred for Greed and Arrogance tribalism, good for you. Again, if you call me a tribalist because I refuse you lord it over me, congrats.

Infact, the way I look at it, the Ibos are likely to be more welcome in the West should the union be broken as long as they will live according to the laws of the land as a sovereign state. If you must accuse anyone of curruption and drug dealing, examine yourself first if you are not guilty of the same offence. Who among all your current presidential candidates is saintly?

Besides, do you think there would have been need for the 1967 war if Bello had been granted his request in the 50s and the secession clause had been entrenched in the constitution? Wouldn't that have given the separation the required legal backing rather than being viewed as a treasonable felony till today? Don't you think the separation of the country would have been easier pre-independence with the British serving as umpires?

Would there have been need for any agitations today if Ironsi had used his position as the GOC to separate the country or insert the refendum/secession clause in the constitution after the coup, seeing where the country was headed? Do being against the secession clause and the promulgation of Decree 34 indicate any seriousness about restructuring?

Go and ask the Olu of Iwerre land about the nexus between the Itsekiris and the Yorubas. The balkanisation of the elstwhile Eastern Region started with the balkanisation of the Western Region under your presidency. Every action gets a reaction. Find out about the origin of the Olukumis in Delta as well. The British left you with 3 regions. Less than 3 years after their departure, you created another region. From 4 regions, you moved to more states creation until you currently have 36 states, much of which consume much more than they contribute. Which country in a developed world runs that kind of system? The balkanisation started in 1963.

00FFT00:
They would, and rightly so, if London was also built with Yoruba resources, Yoruba entrepreneurial contribution, and Yoruba manpower.

Which entrepreneural contribution are you talking about? You invest where you can have returns not in a desert. Since you claim Europe and America were built by the sweat of your fore fathers who were taken and carried abroad as slaves, why not start a movement to claim America, Portugal and UK are no-man's land.

00FFT00:
I asked you a fair question. You do not have to publicly display your hollowness rambling about matters of the 50s. I may well educate you about parts of that history you're ignorant about or conveniently omitted.

That said, and I ask you again, why is it not in Yoruba reckoning to also jettison the funds accruing from the southeast and south-south oil and gas since, in your estimation, they are to be discarded from any relevance in Nigeria?.

You can educate me of anything omitted, nothing spoils as long as the "education" is not laced with falsehood. Come clear on where you hail from and stop the attachment of SE and SS. SS comprises of many sub-groups, including the present-day Delta and Edo that were originally part of Western Nigeria. If you could read between lines, you'd understand how your questions have been answered. Refund all that have been taken from Yoruba land since 1914, including those Yoruba territories outside the contemporary SW region, and take all you've given to it if that will make the unworking union to end peacefully and if all will agree to it.

00FFT00:
Hatred kills. Just a piece of brotherly advice!.

Nothing kills faster than GREED and ARROGANCE.

00FFT00:
Finland and Sweden are sovereign entities. So also the USA and Canada. I am not aware of the existence of the Republic of Igbo and the Republic of Yoruba.

And while we're at it, isn't only fair that Yoruba also reject the money it receives from the proceeds of oil and gas from both the Niger delta and Igbo territories, or is Yoruba also greedy?.

You were sovereign nations before the marriage of 1914. If the marriage was good and had been done in good faith, why the daily curses and abuses being rained on Lord Lugard by your kinds? Why the shout about Fulani herdsmen planning to take over your land? That sounds hypocritical. When the marriage favours you, it's okay but when the odds are against you, the union becomes bad.

When other nations brought into the marriage indicated their intentions to quit in the 50s and have their SOVEREIGNTY, guess the only one that stood against it like a parasite that doesn't like to leave its host? That's a downside of having a GREEDY neighbour. The same FEAR they had for that separation may not be far from their hatred for BAT, Falae, and Awo as some people have alleged. Yorubas are dirty and tribalistic but you run to their land daily for survival. Is that a curse or what?

As for oil, when Awo's performance dwarfed those of his contemporaries in the 50s, was it oil money that did the magic? The last time I checked the entire oil produced in the "Igbo territories" never matched what is produced in Ondo alone. Lagos and Ogun still maintain their reserves. And I guess those "Igbo territories" do not include Iwerre Land of the Itsekiris called Warri. Will it therefore be bad thing to refund all the revenues and VAT ever generated from Yoruba land and ports since 1914? When will the Abuja House in the UK built with Western Nigeria money before being hijacked be returned? ARROGANCE and GREED are twin brothers that will never do their owners any good.

00FFT00:
Hatred kills. Just a piece of brotherly advice!.

Hatred is bad but unfortunately that's what you see displayed here every now and then. It's never a bad thing to share boundaries with neighbours but could be distrarous when you share boundaries with greedy neighbours. Why should asking everyone to stay on their lanes be termed tribalism? Finland and Sweden are good friends in Europe but each of them knows their boundary. Canada and USA are friends till tomorrow and usually have a common front on the international scene but each of them know their boundaries which they mutually respect.

Why should asking someone to stay within his boundaries be termed tribalism if not for GREED? Issues of lands, boundaries and nationhood are as old as the earth itself. So, can we say every nation that recognizes its boundaries is tribalistic? Stay on your lane and let me stay on my lane has nothing to do with tribalism or hatred. You can only call it tribalism when you are not allowed to come there not when you want to rob the owners of their possessions and the owners stand against your mischief. That's stealing!

Recognizing mutual boundaries is for respect, easy governance, and development of all mankind.

Elliotg:
No one gave a Bleep about Tinubu and how he ran his gheto Lagos or the entire SW like a one man business until he doubled into national politics and brought the lifeless one. National politics is everyone's business, it is not Yoruba muslims' private affair. You must be a mad man if you think otherwise. Tinubu can not be paid with more power after his choices brought more pain to the people(which is not exclusive of Yoruba Muslims).
The likes of Awolowo, Tinubu, Buhari, e.t.c are very tribalistic people. That is why they lack true national appeal, coupled with their bigotry. Awolowo started tribal politics, and we can see how dangerous it is. He may have hoped to run his region like a personal estate that is why he clamoured for a secession clause at a very young age of the country when focus should have been on national unity. And we saw the crisis that resulted from such politics during the wild wild west crisis.

Greedy man spotted! You complain of Lugard bringing you together but when you had the opportunity of breaking that union you threw it away in the name of one Nigeria. You must be a CONFUSED man that apparently lacks the sense of knowing what he actually wants in life. You have 3 eggs on the table to be shared by 3 friends. While one friend was ready to pick just one egg, the second friend wanted to pick the remaining 2 eggs in the name of "we are one and I'm not tribalistic" so that the 3rd friend could go empty-handed. Arrogance and Greed! You are already out of your shell. Yorubas voted Awo as their leader and they never regretted it. If your chosen leaders didn't do you well, blame them.

Amodu Bello, who suggested that the North should be separated from Nigeria in the 50s, you call tribalistic till today for your lack of insight. Awolowo that suggested having a secession clause in the constitution pre-independence is also tribalistic to you because of your covetousness over other people's land. How good is your one Nigeria today? Keep enjoying it. In 1966, it was okay to make a unification decree 34 because it suited you. The following year in 1967, one Nigeria was no more good because power had changed hand. GREED.

If common sense was common to you, would you be forcing yourself to live with someone that you know is tribalistic? You suffered losses in 1945 Jos riot ever before the 1953 election in which you were put where you belong in Western Nigeria but you never learnt. Kano riot of 1953 was another time machine for you, yet you saw no reason for having a secession clause in the constitution. Continue your lies against Awo because you were caught up in your web of greed. Was Awolowo the causes of Jos riot of 1945 and Kano riot of 1952?

Who told you your problem started in 2015? If you have any iota of intelligence, you should know that a marriage bedeviled by rancors and acrimony for over 60 years may never work. Continue to enjoy the drama of Fuji House of Commotion while it lasts. Let's accept that BAT is not a good candidate as your president now, can you mention a saint among those you're currently parading as candidates, Mr Smart?

Gozac:
I don't even have land in SW and I don't plan to have one in the future. I am not interested in 2023 and am not supporting any candidate, I just doing my analysis, I don't even have a voters card so to speak. We voted OBJ because he was not a tribalist which Tinubu equally typifies as well. Tinubu has a lot working against his aspiration, whether he wins is a topic for another day
My people has been on the fore front of restructuring if you know you know, Tinubu can't restructure Nigeria if he wins
You are a Tinubu acolyte stop denying it.

You wrote:
"North go hear am if they vote this man.
He will ensure that states control majority of their VAT, IGR and state police"

If truly BAT will do these things it's better to vote for him although I don't like the MM combination due to the current state of the country. One of the reasons I like Wike today is because he was vocal on the issue of VAT. I like senator Abaribe because of his stance against the Fulanis hiding in the forest. I can still recollect how he talked on the floor of the house on that issue.

If you didn't have voter's card, how did you vote OBJ? And how do you think Atiku who preferred 3:14 opinion to select his vice after sabotaging the request of the South to have the presidency in 2023 will be better than BAT? Can you know Atiku more than OBJ? That tells you there's more to the hatred of BAT. Why was Zik against having the secession clause in the constitution pre-independence as suggested by Awo if not that he had his eyes fixed on Yoruba land? GREED. What he wanted to achieve is currently resonating with the shout of "Lagos is a no-man's land". Covetousness of another man's land. God hates covetousness and arrogance the same way the Almighty decreed against killing and stealing.

If you are not afraid of restructuring, why are you against state police and regional control of VAT and IGR in spite of the fact that the current centralized structure is not working? Which country in a developed region practices the kind of structure you have in Nigeria?

Do a google search analysis for the past 10 years about Nigerians caught at home and abroad in drug deals and find out where the majority of them hailed from in Nigeria? Were they BAT boys?

Like I stated earlier, I'm no BAT's fan but I hate a campaign of lies and malice and I'm sure God does.

Jack005:
Tinubu betrayed the south and you expect SS and SE to like him? I am not igbo but I detest the man called tinubu.. Stick with it..

Can't stay without attaching SS to yourself? Inferiority complex or what?

NnamdiN:
I do not hate him but I'm worried because it is not yoruba people alone that will suffer if he eventually becomes president. Like suffer no dey tire una? From buhari to tinubu no be ment be that?

You think igbo people would give two phucks if it were lagos/yoruba/south west presidency alone ?

And as long as igbos are still Nigerians and can stay and vote for anyone they like , they also reserve the right to criticise any badger however they want.

Lastly they also have some iįdiots from the South East. eyeing the presidency, Yall are free to abuse and criticise as you please

So you think Nigerians will not suffer if any of the other party candidates win? Why was Zik afraid of having the secession clause in the constitution pre-independence? And why the fear about restructuring the country this time again?

Bastardlyrich:
Theivenubu is coming to be Nigerian president and everyone has right to scrutinize him not only igbos.
If it's only Yoruba president that's different.
Moreover you trying to paint obi an igbo project won't work most of obi supporters are Nigerian youth who are tired of the status quo.
Try to over grow tribalism,I will support obi type even if he is fulani,Igbo, itsekiris etc

Go and find out about who Obi is. Dig about his antecedents in the bank where he was once a Director. Find out about his performance as a Governor of Anambra. Find out the relationship between him and a bank MD in the run up to 2015 election and how EFCC later picked that MD. Fact, there's no saint among the crop of current Nigerian politicians except you want to be biased.

Bastardlyrich:
Are there not Yorubas in ss/se by the way Lagos is not an ordinary state.
Lagos is the commercial hub of nigeria and a formal capital and is not even theivenubu that made Lagos Lagos.
So you are typing trashh.
Most oil workers in my place is yorubas are they from Rivers state even we wey get the oil no plenty reach yorubas in the oil sector.
I keep begging you not to start an ethnic war because it will affect and destroy southern nigeria.
Once you flog an igbo, ijaw,Benin etc because he is persuading people to vote in lagos,guy it won't be funny.
Live and let's live.
Peace

As long as you are covetous of other people's land, you can't have unity in the South. Yorubas are many in the UK but they dare not look the Queen in the face and tell her the British soil is a no man's land.

Bastardlyrich:
Are there not Yorubas in ss/se by the way Lagos is not an ordinary state.
Lagos is the commercial hub of nigeria and a formal capital and is not even theivenubu that made Lagos Lagos.
So you are typing trashh.
Most oil workers in my place is yorubas are they from Rivers state even we wey get the oil no plenty reach yorubas in the oil sector.
I keep begging you not to start an ethnic war because it will affect and destroy southern nigeria.
Once you flog an igbo, ijaw,Benin etc because he is persuading people to vote in lagos,guy it won't be funny.
Live and let's live.
Peace

Lagos Island, not Lagos State. Get educated.

Gozac:
He said that he doesn't believe in one Nigeria, he just came to empower Yorubas just as PMB is empoweing Fulani no wonder they keep saying " awa lokan" that is it's our time
It's purely a Yorubas agenda and interest
North go hear am if they vote this man.
He will ensure that states control majority of their VAT, IGR and state police

You're just confirming your fear for having Tinubu as the president. You fear restructuring while at the same time you condemn Fulani herdsmen and accuse them of planning to take over your land. Aren't you confused? You're covetous of another man's land simply because the people of the land are generous and accommodating. That restructuring will take place whether you like it or not.

Greed and covetousness of Yoruba land must TRULY be the reason you don't want BAT as president based on what you wrote. Can you swear with the earth that swallows all mortals that there's a saint among all the current presidential candidates? I'm not a fan of BAT but I can smell a malicious tendency when I see one. OBJ was voted for by people like you because it's a known fact that OBJ is the direct opposite of Awolowo, who the Yorubas cherish till tomorrow.

Bastardlyrich:
When.is the next ijaw hates Igbo thread coming up,I m tired of waiting,so I will do justice to it like how I do to fried rice.
Seriously you guys are not really good in propaganda the way I thought,see ss/se that just started propaganda yesterday have over taken you guys upon the huge money the wanted criminal,sick,uglee, irritatin, corruptt drug Barron and Stark illiteratess pay you guys.

Leave SS alone. Are you a parasite?

Bastardlyrich:
I'm ijaw,you know what that means abi.
The highest form of insult is flog any man.
Just let yorubas try it.
The way una go take run ehn, normally you people don't have strengtht which every one know.
Let's always be nice please,I have Yoruba friends.
Don't even wish that on yorubas

An Ijaw man that could not save himself during Biafra war. Heheheheee. So, as an Ijaw you get two hearts right?

Damisic:
I know your forefathers doesn't have history .... but that doesn't mean you should start spoiling our history for us


Me run to america or uk walahi that will be the last thing I will ever do

Christianity brought us slave trade ....world war ....1 and 2 lgbtq ....white worshipping ...and etc ...like u already worship your white lord in the bolded

Rubbish. My great grandfather came to Yorubaland by his head not by his leg, if you know what that means in the land of Oodua. Yeyenatu. Which history is he talking about? It was the colonial masters that killed Afonja in Ilorin and imposed an alien system of governance on you - right? Adolf Hitler told you he was fighting a christian war abi?

If world war was about Christianity based on the lies they have told you, the kiriji war fought in Yooba land for 16 years was also brought by Christianity abi? The Osogbo war fought to stop the advancing Fulani invaders was also brought by Christianity? The war fought by Lisabi of Egba land to liberate the Egba people from the oppression of the Oyos was also a Christian war - right? Keep lieing there. Go and liberate yourselves in Ilorin first before we can take you seriously.

A lot of you folks are in America, UK, and Europe as we speak, yet to you Christians are bad. Go and read about past Muslim slave traders in order to get cured of your ignorance. Fulanis are using religion to penetrate and attack his people but he's here spewing rubbish.

Damisic:
Am talking about the whole state not some specific region


Wtf doesn't know that ogbomoso is a chris area

Also osun is muslim majority ....I know that one for sure


Which association with fulani ....if u don't know islam was in yoruba land b4 your colonizer came to force us with christianity.....

What makes up a state if not the local regions? Was Afonja a Muslim? Was Basorun Ogunmola a Muslim? Was Efunsetan Aniwura a Muslim? Was Latoosa a Muslim? Was Oranmiyan a Muslim? Was Obalufon a Muslim? Was Agboniregun a Muslim? Were Oluorogbo, Moremi, Sango, Ogedengbe, Fabunmi Oke-Imesi, Lisabi Agbongbo-Akala, Ogundipe Alatise, Olofin Ogunfunminire, etc. Muslims?

Your fore fathers were originally traditional worshippers before Islam came to them. The way some of them accepted Islam with their traditional religion is the way some Muslims later accepted Christianity. From traditional religion to Islam and then to Christianity.

I'm a Christian by free will, it was not forced on me. The colonial masters came after Ilorin was invaded by Alimi warriors and they had left since 1960, but when will the children of Alimi leave Ilorin for you?

You had better begin to pray to God for deliverance.

kayperry:
typical low life nairalander, yu cum to an informal platform nd expect people owe you essay writings naa ur papa pay my school fee ... i can see you're a waste of my time #bye

Gutter boy, I can see that you really need help. Who requested for your time in the first place? If your time was so precious to you, would you have jumped into a conversation not involving you abinitio?

kayperry:
Is that word Little boy suppose to have some effect, besides did you jump out of your mother's vagina with white hair

I can now understand how you were brought up. To have jumped into a thread for which you have no prior understanding and began to spew rubbish says a lot about you. By the way, is that how you talk to your mother? Gutter boy. Lest I forget, tell your lesson teacher to teach you Punctuation in your next class. Clear?

kayperry:
No be only wrote ode! is it the thread that quoted me, i replied my mentions if you can't comprehend something as simple as that, then you are mentally not fit to be having this conversation

What's is he saying? Little boy, where were you raised? You expected me to write: "Did you read before you write" - right? Half-baked fellow.

kayperry:
you are the one defending islam, shouldnt you be the one to tell us islam got into north thru slaves from other west africa countries
funnily islam started in Borno now it adds up why boko haram/insurgencies started in borno
Now it adds up why Tinubu against all odd picked shettima from Borno, that is certainly not a coincidence, seems very islamization agenda needs a touch of borno.

islam got to north 1st while xtainity got to south 1st, now you know loser

What's this one saying? Did you read before you wrote? Did you understand the thread you're responding to?

CommonSense1967:
Wikipedia is simply someone's opinion as they see it. It's not authoritative or based on hard facts.

And Shittu's position is based on hard fact?

Damisic:
Ondo.. chris


Ekiti Chris


Ogun...50
.50


Oyo and osun .. muslim


Note population of ondo and ekiti is not up to the pupulation óf oyo

It's only the Oyo people part of Osun like Iwo, Ede, Ikirun, that you may have Muslim majority. Even at that, they still have a significant number of Christians. There's a christian university in Iwo and another one in Ede.

The Ijesa/Ife side where the likes of Adeboye and Kumuyi hail from have Christian majority. You can only tell your lies to those who are not knowledgeable or don't travel.

As for Oyo State, you may have Muslim majority in Oke-Ogun side, not Ogbomoso that is home to the Baptist Christians. It may be reasonable to say that it is due to your association with the Fulanis in Oke-Ogun side of Oyo State through your religion that the area has become prone to herdsmen attack.

Damisic:
islam was brought thru trade by mali


Not like how the british forceful convert us with their guns

Of course, it was through trade that Ilorin was taken away from you before the Fulanis were stopped at Osogbo. Those Fulanis who changed your Obaship system in Ilorin to Emirate must be Christian colonial masters - right?

You must be ignorant not to know the difference between the Portuguese with which your fore fathers traded human beings as slaves and the British who stopped slave trade and engaged your forebears in the trading of cash crops. Haven't you ever heard of Muslim slave traders before? Go and study hard. What benefits did Islam bring to you compared with the civilization brought by Christianity?

And if the British and the Europeans are that bad, why have you ingrates continued to run to America, Britain and Europe for survival? Why not headed for Saudi, Iran, or Afghanistan?