₦airaland Forum

hotseat:
It would do a lot of good to Osinbajo if he teams up with BAT who happens to be his political beneficiary and godfather.




One good turn, they say, deserves another.




Any attempt to allow himself to be used as a blackleg against the aspiration of his "boss" may be tantamount to a cruel and fiendish betrayal.



As a pastor, he should take into account that the Holy Bible admonishes us to do unto others what we wish done to us.



Osinbajo!



DON'T PLAY A JUDAS ISCARIOT!

But your MURIC Ishaq Akintola can continue to openly attack the christian Yorubas - right? Hypocrites! Didn't you people say MURIC Ishaq Akintola, who openly said Amotekun is a Christian agenda, is speaking the mind of the majority of you muslim Yorubas? If supporting those invading your fatherland is not an act of betrayal, then you need to redefine who was the Judas Iscariot you are referring to.

aribisala0:
Ogu people are not Yoruba

The simple truth is that Yoruba as a construct is a 20th century construct within the context of Nigeria.
Ogu language is not in the Yoruba language family and there is next to zero mutual intelligibility. At some point in history the Ogu people like the Egba e.g fell under Oyo domination

They have similarities but they are different people

So, who are the Yorubas? The Ekitis, Ijeshas, Egbas, Oyos, Ifes, Aworis, Ijebus, Egbados (Yewas), Eguns, Owos, Ondos, Akures? Who among them can we call Yorubas as it appears you more about the Yorubas?

aribisala0:
Where did Oduduwa come from?

Where did the ancestors of the Igodomigodo come from?

do4luv14:
what about that of benin corpus, did the history not tell you that it was their mothers that was Yoruba, while their fathers are benins, or since they married yoruba they automatically became one

What I learnt is that Oduduwa had just one son called Okanbi. Oranmiyan was not a direct son of Oduduwa. That's why the Yorubas say, "Okan l'omo Oodua", meaning Oodua had just a child.

27Pushing30:
I have attached some things to enlighten you… just on ondo and akure kingdoms o las las we will all continue to be ignorant .

Because the Brit’s favored the Yoruba’s doesn’t mean we don’t know history o.

All you are saying does not indicate any conquest of Owo or Akure. Rather, it suggests a mixture of the Binis and the Yorubas whether true trade, marriage or due to their close proximity. Your argument simply supports what the Yorubas know and have always said that the Obaship in Ibinu land, not the Ogisoship please, was from Ife. Oranmiyan went to Ibinu from Ife and he returned to Ife. He neither died in Ibinu nor was buried there. If he was from Ibinu, he would not have had any cause to return to Ife. Igodomigodo and Ogiso are quite different from Binis and Oba respectively.

PeterUdeme:
Check history bro. I even have the map of the two empires. Don't argue.

Which map? The one made by the Aborigines themselves or the one made by the foreigners? It's a public knowledge that formal education which produces the knowledge required for map drawing was brought by the Europeans.

27Pushing30:
West Africa no really get written history and these colonials have their own way of twisting things.

It’s difficult for y’all to understand sha

Las las believe wetin you want

Please tell us the meaning of Olori-Ogun in Igodomigodo language? What is "Ori"? What is "Olori"? What is "Ogun"? And What is "Olori-Ogun"?

DCmonster:
who is this boy?
Badagry was initially not part of Nigeria, the boundary and border was at agbara before obasanjo renegotiated it.
You think you are talking to a novice, you might as well call aworis Yorubas.

If eguns are Yoruba why did latest jakande incorporated egun language and awori language Into Lagos television daily news broadcast?
Keep fooling yourself.

I once lived in 242 recce battalion barracks ibereko, badagry.

What is the meaning of Awo-ri? What is "Awo"? What is "ri"? You had better consulted google before you tell an Awori man from Ota or Isheri-Olofin in Ogun State that he's not a Yoruba man.

do4luv14:
Now who was the father, grand father, and great grandfather of Oranmiyan?

Tell us if you know.

27Pushing30:
Today's ondo state was hitherto part of the benin kingdom , History also tells us that edo people "owned" lagos. do we go to the similarities with some igbo people?

If not for the British you no go dey talk all this rubbish.

Migration and settlement is different from ancestry

There can't be a kingdom without a king. Who was the first Oba of Ibinu Kingdom and where did he come from? Who changed the name Igodomigodo to Ile Ibinu and why has this change not been reversed?

Onyiiobi7735:
Lol! Why are you so pained? Anambra,Imo and Abia states have oil in commercial quantities. You can then go and hug transformer.

Yes, but the total quantity of oil produced from those 3 states is not up to what Ondo generates. Google search can help.

do4luv14:
how sure are you, how can a people choose an outsider as a king??

it's just like saying bubu is a Sudanese

How did the first Oba of Ibinu (Igodomigodo) come from Ife? How did Oba of Eko come from Ibinu?

Nicho118:
attach or not.. if them bit more than they can chew... Ijaw and Urhobo people go deal with them attach or not.. if them bit more than they can chew... Ijaw and Urhobo people go deal with them

You'd better learnt to live in peace with your neighbours.

jneutron4000:
No mind them, they have tried to twist history, but the evidence solid. The fiction runaway Prince Ekaladehran all because of Ekiokpagha treaty of the Aborigines. Anyways that is their headache
Long live the Olu of Warri.

Well, lies don't always last.

DoctorOlasDesk:
Warri isn't yoruba

But Iwerre people are right? You must know more than the itsekiri elders.

Igbochief001:
We agree why do u guys still want one Nigeria ?

Why were you originally against having a secession clause in the independence constitution?

Bede2u:
and because of all these points u have listed, that is the reason why yoruba prefer to remain in nigeria abi?

Did you understand the guy or you just pretend not to understand because of a hidden fear?

SoulMus:
I barely stated Tribes of region that haven't worked together without insult citing politics and cultural differences

I stated I listened to BBC Hausa and VOA and he called me Fulani slave in other threads, called me Fulani here.. same Ipob clowns ran lies daily during EndSARs claiming I earn 30k

So it's simple let that curse be theirs if it's an Ipob propaganda and a lie

If you are a Yoruba, why are you not proud of your Yoruba identity? Do you cherish your Yoruba cultures or do you downgrade your Yoruba monarchs only to be bowing down to Monarchs from else where? I think that's what that guy is hammering on.

Okwyjesus:
Say it a million times.

They can't withstand the IGBOS so they need the coverage of their masters up north.

It's only the subjects that pay taxes and levies to their rulers.

Igbochief001:
You know south east can send south west into darkenes by offing one switch ? Shay u don't know ?

Please hasten the blow up. Even the turkey does lift up its feathers to make people believe that it's a big fowl.

OkwuEziokwu:
It's Biafra myself and my people want, however, a southern FEDERAL nation is a compromise we are willing to consider.

Biafra is the best option as long as you don't force the Itsekiris, the Olukumis, and other minor tribes into it.

Hmmmm.

Mide1data:
HOLY SHIT

That's exactly what I want. South Nigeria would be a good name. Or maybe UAR Could also be good. Three united regions living peacefully, it would be really beautiful.

WHAT DA BLEEP IS HAPPENING



HOLY SHIT
4 give them na, we all regret voting bubu.

United South where every region knows their boundaries and is ready to play according to the rule of the game. In the UAE, the citizens of Abu dabi cannot come to claim ownership of land in Dubai, not to talk of saying that Dubai is a no man's land. The United South where the autonomy of the Western Nigeria, which comprises of majorly the Yoruba tribes will be guaranteed, the rights and autonomy of the Itsekiris and other minor tribes in the South South will be guaranteed, without any real or imagined threat of domination by any other tribe.

Danzakidakura:
because of Yoruba Muslims.

Because of those who are leaving their land in droves to invade Yoruba land while at the same time are accusing the Fulanis of doing the same thing.

Omoluabi1stborn:
He's correct.
On a normal ground Igbo's and South south are tired of this country.

Once Yoruba tap in and join them in saying okay, then its over for Nigeria.

But now, I still feel Yorubas are the one holding this country together

The glaring truth is that the South South wants out of Nigeria but they don't want to be tied to the apron of either the Ibos or the Yorubas. They want to be an autonomous region on their own. The current South South is made up of part of the old South Eastern region and the entire old Midwestern region. The Midwestern region was carved out of the old Western region in June 1963 when Zik was the Governor General and Tafawa was the Prime Minister. Before the Nigerian independence of October 1, 1960, there was nothing like Midwestern region. In other words, the South South of today is made up of part of the old Western region and part of the old Eastern region. The Ibos in particular must listen to the yearnings of the modern day South South region to be autonomous, otherwise there may be the re-emergence of what happened during the Civil War when the Biafran soldiers invaded the Midwestern region before taking a break at Ore in the present day Ondo State.

The same issues we face in Nigeria would be the same issues a united South would face


Throw in the fact that we rely on the North for most of our food, and the fact that we are an import dependent economy

Plus most of the people clamoring for Nigerian division are doing so because ttheir side lost in 2015.

Nigeria is a contraption. But the alternatives are no better. Sorry, but that is the fact.

Definitely not.

Greenback:
Just see and hear what a human being is saying!!!!!
Shame!

The guy you replied to has said nothing but the truth. Did you observe that more Yoruba people prefer to travel out of Nigeria than going to some other regions in Nigeria?

The South can only be united in a well defined confederation where the South South, South East, and South West are autonomous countries within a bigger country similar to what obtains in the United Kingdom and the United Arab Emirates. Everyone should stay in their regions while the regions cooperate only on strategical areas that must be legally defined and documented.

Bashir75:
My brother, I will love to live peacefully too. Note this your point "Nigeria than in an unsecured bigger Nigeria where nepotism and ethics hatred strive” Very correct, Nepotism and Ethnic hatred is why we cannot live with the Igbo. Go and learn history and study your environment. How many Igbo businesses have hired Yorubas? Go to Ojuelegba, Iba, Festac, Alaba and wherever they have businesses, they will rather bring their new brothers from village than hiring Yorubas. This is still on our land in SW not Igboland.

Secondly, they will destroy the peaceful coexistence between the Yoruba multi religious society by playing us against each other just to get power. If you’re a Yoruba christian and don’t do their biddings , they call you fake pastors and if you’re muslim Yoruba and don’t support their desire, they call you slave of fulani. But, when they’re the one slaving with Fulani, that’s normal.

The Yoruba will do well being alone with their destiny in their hand.

There cannot be unity in the South until every one knows their boundaries. The Scottish, Irish, English people all in the UK know their national and cultural boundaries. The Obaship system in the South West, for instance, predated the coming of the Europeans. Respect is reciprocal and until this is well understood, there may not be the expected unity.

Bede2u:
and because of all these points u have listed, that is the reason why yoruba prefer to remain in nigeria abi?

If Yoruba wanted to remain in Nigeria, their leader wouldn't have suggested having a secession clause in the constitution pre-independence, when it was convenient to do so.

jimyjames:
You are dull the invasion of Midwest towards ore by the biafrans happened in August 9 , adekunle and his troops were already deep in Biafra territory in rivers state fighting Biafran earlier in July 1967 so don't tell me lies .

If you Yoruba's and northerners weren't jealous of eastern region which became a nation of Biafra, everyone could have been independent by now , its your envy and jealousy that united you with northerners to fight us.

Why was the leader of the Eastern region against having a secession clause in the independence constitution despite their experiences with the Jos riot of 1945 and Kano riot of 1953? Why was the Midwestern region, which comprised of the present-day Delta State and Edo State, carved out of the then Western region in June 1963 by the government headed by Zik and Balewa but the same government did not carve out the Mid-eastern region from the then Eastern region and the Mid-Northen region from the then Northern region? The Mid-eastern region that was not created and the Midwestern region that was created are what make up the present-day South South region. The biggest mistake was the separation of the Itsekiris from their kits and kins in the South West.

jimyjames:
You are dull the invasion of Midwest towards ore by the biafrans happened in August 9 , adekunle and his troops were already deep in Biafra territory in rivers state fighting Biafran earlier in July 1967 so don't tell me lies .

If you Yoruba's and northerners weren't jealous of eastern region which became a nation of Biafra, everyone could have been independent by now , its your envy and jealousy that united you with northerners to fight us.

Lie! August 9, 1967 came into existence before July 26, 1968. It's not just about the month, but about both the month and the year.

jimyjames:
That's not the point , the point is his troops attacked bonny in july 1967 , that was before Biafra invaded Midwest later in August 9

So 1968 came before 1967?