₦airaland Forum

iterator24:
if you're trying to create an impression that we're clueless like you, it won't work..the outrage caused by the barbarism unleashed by your compatriots in the last couple of days tells me Nigerians on this platform are more travelled and exposed than you'd ever be.. shove your little MTN story where the sun don't shine and stop peddling false narratives.

so said a Nigerian refugee in my country...

iterator24:
you're yet to prove anything, your claims are not recorded anywhere in Nigeria's history and Africa at large or cyberspace.
I've opened a thread for you

www.nairaland.com/2264899/see-what-south-africans-nairaland

you can argue with them from now on...

thanks for knowing events unfolding in sA than in your own backyard...i have been reading debates and arguments since I joined this forum,I regret to inform that many of those are laughable due to the fact that all are made in the name of patriotism...by the way am not here to prove anything...a Nigerian will scream on top of his voice denying that MTN is a south African company,so who am I to convince a Nigerian.

iterator24:
where did you get that stupiid claim? do you know how many military rulers nigeria had after abacha before IBB finally paved way for civilian rule?
please post credible sources to support your claims and research on INEC.. IEC my left butt

you just like peddling false narrative to fill up space

1996 ...supper eagles did not participate in the afcon because Mandela was on Abacha s neck,as usual denie it

make your own research and see how south Africa boycotted the Abacha regime

2.1999 Nigerians first democratical elections ballot papers were designed and printed in SA,South African independent electoral commission were also involved in your first democratical elections,denie it...president Jonathan in his elections campaigns made a statement about this..your country imports everything from SA,south African companies are employing thousands and thousands of Nigerians in Nigeria,many are also employed by our own government as doctors and teachers here in SA,thousands and thousands of young Nigerians are studying in our universities,some are even getting bursaries at the expense of south African tax payers...swallow your empty pride and show appreciation....

ayaside:
Apartheid

if SA returns to apartheid...Nigeria will go back to slavery days!

autofreak2020:
{If you are thankful, I will grant you increase}
( Ibrahim 14:7 )

1 Thessalonians 5:18 says:
Give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the
will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

Being ingrate to God and humans is frown against in both Qur'an and bible which are two major religion in Africa.
Is Xenophobic an equivalent of thank you Nigerians for your brave moves in Commonwealth to save our country from white apartheid?

Yes, the history of our national struggles to help these SA liberate from modern white slavery pre-date my date of birth, but records are there for all to see. Nigeria helped this people in 3 successful ways, please read on.
(1) Nigeria's Murtala Muhammed -
Olusegun Obasanjo
regime, nationalized the British
Petroleum (BP) for supplying oil to
South Africa. This was at a time,
when South Africa needed
action and not just rhetorics to give
momentum to the struggle for
freedom from the white
masters. These were no mean and
easy decisions. These were
decisions that carried very
enormous political implications.
These decisions were capable of
attracting serious political, economic
and social reprisals. However, for
love for our brothers and sisters in
South Africa, Nigeria risked all, to
help South Africa gain freedom.

(2) Furthermore, to help South Africa gain
independence, Nigeria led a boycott
of the 1978 Games in protest of New
Zealand's sporting contacts with
apartheid South Africa, and 32 of 59
nations from Africa, Asia, and the
Caribbean joined a Nigeria led
boycott of the 1986 Commonwealth
Games due to the
Thatcher government's attitude
towards South African .Nigeria, a
member of the common
wealth mobilized it's diplomatic
influence, and led majority of the
common wealth countries to boycott
these common wealth games as a
show of solidarity to South Africa
and to send a message to the white
country members in the common
wealth and in the world generally,
that Nigeria will fight with it's all, to
set our brothers and sisters in
South Africa free. This was a
herculean task. The mobilisation for
this boycott, deeply tested Nigeria's
claim to leadership in Africa and
beyond. Alas, the mobilisation was
very successful. And the common
wealth games, that year, was a
sorry story. From that moment
onwards, the whole world took
notice and the struggle for the
liberation of South Africa was
immediately hyper-accelerated. And
the rest is now history.

(3) Finally, Nigeria is also reputed to
have provided secret military
training at the Kaduna first
mechanized army division and
provided other material, financial
and diplomatic support to African
National Congress guerrilla forces.
Who can quantify the millions of
dollars, that Nigeria spent on the A.
N. C. during the struggle to liberate
South Africa ?. Nigeria-SA relationship na by force?
Is this Xenophobia a thank you for our contributions to their independence?
When Nigeria do not want Ghanaians on our soil anymore, we packed their bags and luggage together and said "GHANA-MUST-GO", we refuted and discarded all justifications for brutal killings. It is not a big deal if SA feels threatened that we are taking their Jobs, but killing my people heinously does not justify their claim.
Our government must rise to their feet and do the needful, if south African want to severe ties with giant of Africa, we are ready to severe ties with MTN, DSTV and other South African conglomerates on our soil.
.............i am marveloushands....................

in return SA helped you achieve democracy,pres Mandela boycotted the Abacha regime via the UN and Common wealth...your first democratic elections were ran by South African independent electoral commission...thousands and thousands of young Nigerian students are easily absorbed by our universities,many are even getting bursaries,thanx to SAn tax payers...south African companies operating there did not force themselves into that country but president obasanjo made a request,..if Nigerians living in SA can listen and do what their leaders are saying(respect the laws of the host nations),things will be better unfortunately those who are involved in criminal activities are also fueling the hatred,the most annoying part of it is when one hears those criminals boosting about their activities..
.

Can tb Joshua tell us who killed over 80 south Africans in his church last yr?

osystein:
they even had to write an article with all the misinformation out there. Even the video which made FP yersterday is an old video showing a man lynched for shooting a 5 year old for shoplifting.

fake photos misrepresenting xenophobic violence
http://m.ewn.co.za/2015/04/17/Fake-photo

social media abuzz with false rumours over xenophobia
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/04/16/social-media-abuzz-with-false-rumours-over-xenophobic-attackstos-misrepresenting-xenophobic-violence

Internet boasts false images of xenophobic violence in South Africa

http://observers.france24.com/content/20150417-south-africa-durban-immigrant-xenophobic-false-photos

that's why I suspect a third force is behind the xenophobic violence

make use of imagesraider.com to check the source of the images claimed to be xenophobic, since your job on nairaland is to defend your country.

hehehe the last part of your comment is amusing...

agaugust:
Nope, the Nigerian society is integrated by extended family system, and people help people across extended family lines.

Even Nigerian disabled do work and earn their daily bread, most of them do. Cripples do trade, or crafts, some own shops, blind men read law with braile, some blind Nigerians use their talents, like this man Cobhams ....

We are not born lazy like South Africans

can I give you a list of countries that are in the same path with SA?if indeed your leaders are not failing you,it means your country can not afford...we also have many talented and hard working people with disabilities,hence our government have a social grant program for those people...as much as you guys claim to work hard,it is apparent that the economic harsh conditions of your country compel every person to hustle...

agaugust:
There are Nigerian doctors, nurses, school teachers, engineers, bankers, traders, and spaza shop owners in South Africa.

Those other low class labourers that you ridicule are hard working human beigns who do not feed fat on government cash gifts like lazy parasites.....the BIBLE SAYS : HE THAT WILL NOT WORK, LET HIM NOT EAT !

Universities? How many South Africans go to university? Your Soweto rug-rats have not even completed secondary school

The cost of running South African universities is paid for largely by the dollar fees charged on foreign students from all over Africa.

Your nation CANNOT survive without other Africans helping your lazy men, able bodied lazy men, born to be parasites like tape-worm taenia saginata
.

so according to you only foreigners are studying at south African universities,you are ill informed mate...south African universities existed before even our boarders were opened for people from other African countries,you should appreciate that south Africa is shaping the future of Africa....i hav been hearing about this futile boosting about Nigerian doctors and engineers in SA...they are there in the Uk and US,does that mean the British and Americans are uneducated...?

agaugust:
Nope, it's because your lazy Soweto parasites DO NOT want to do any work, they want government cash handouts and plenty food for lazy man
.

by government cash handouts you mean

1:child support grant for poor children aged 1 to 18
2.old age people(60 years and above
3.disabilities grant
4.foster care grant (for orphans

these are services any poor Nigerian would really want to get from your federal government ....

guttentag:
We are already planning on how to attach some south Africans living in my area here. Let the looting and killing begin

what are you waiting for,presumably the number of casualties will exceed the one you killed last year at the church....

osystein:
Why you shouldn't believe everything you read online.

Fake story.
graphic photo. A foreigner's child
attacked in South Africa

[img]http://4.bp..com/-FCrWzGps8CE/VTIjCLCGEHI/AAAAAAAE_kE/HLFBzLrluGE/s280/1.jpg[/img]

www.lindaikeji..com/2015/04/graphic-photo-foreigners-child-attacked.html?m=1


true story.
stray rubber bullet hits child during service delivery protest back in January
https://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/media_stream/politicsweb/1/932751/images/DailySunFebruary22015.jpg

www.politicsweb.co.za/iservice/rubber-bullet-did-this--daily-sun

mduza , mzansibeat bluivy blulvy

lol..eish

hope4nigeria:
hope u r not in nigeria enjoy good and peaceful hospitality? God will judge and destroy SA if nigeria with her hand of felloqship deserve such treatment

God is south African.....unless you talking about the Nigerian gods..

ayaside:
It happened before.I don't wish them bad but it can still happen again

what happened before?

justwise:
Of course there are far more illegal immigrants in US, the UK, Canada and other western countries than you have in SA, yes they work illegally. You are counting number of crimes allegedly committed by foreigners in SA, how about South Africans committing crimes in foreign countries?
You were and still living as a second class citizens in your own country but were helpless until the rest of the world intervened to give you independent including those Africans you now see as 'foreigners'. You accepted the white and made peace with them, the same people who killed and slaved you, were they not taking your jobs, land and freedom then? Now you turned against people who fought and die with you to give you freedom and sense of identity.

I lived and studied in Zimbabwe and then many of us faced the same hatred, Zimbabweans blamed Nigerians for all sorts of crimes, forced many Nigerians to close their businesses and relocate to SA, now where is Zimbabwe?

so you were even chased out of Zimbabwe,surely there is something wrong with you guys unfortunately you don't want to admit it...lets talk about south Africans living in Nigeria,are they involved in all illegal activities you countrymen men are doing here?south Africans fought hard for their country,this country is what it is because of the blood of our people..Nigeria never sent a single soldier to fight for us..your mercenaries were nowhere to be found while your leaders were playing hide and seek via United Nations...again you should,appreciate the fact that majority of south Africans are against the attacks...the day on which the majority says Nigerians should leave,you will run away from your home whenever you see a south African on tv...

Nigerians in SA are urge to respect the laws of the host nation...

drug dealers,human traffickers and fraudsters did you hear that...?


SAi Buhari

ayaside:
They have "whites" in south A too....Its gonna happen to them soon

wishful thinking

ucheokpara100:
u people should stop all this fake news this tin is not tht much wats all this hype? iam not returning home our Government has failed us, ok if thy help me 2 return 2 nigeria are thy goin 2 giv me job? wat abt my studies? i 'll be here death or alife. our government caused all this.

tell them my brother ooo

Raylight2:
we'll fight south Africans in Nigeria If this continues

fight them,you have already killed over 80 of them in one day last year

stunt353:
MduZA,eroZA and bluivy.... Expecting u guys to say something....

EroZA is dead,may his nairaland soul rest in peace

stunt353:
MduZA,eroZA and bluivy.... Expecting u guys to say something....

EroZA is dead,my his nairaland soul rest in peace

PunkyOh:
Did you see the pictures they posted of people looting shops? Did you see how many South Africans stood by folding hands & not participating in the crime? And yet some come here & accuse all of us of these things. I just don't get how some reason here.

I saw those ,some are downloaded from horror movies...the insults here are annoying and are made by clueless people..

all4naija:
Why aren't they doing it now?

the number of illegal immigrants is increasing...crime is going high and job opportunities are narrowing

justwise:
That is the case everywhere including the UK, US, Canada, China etc, but you don't see them going after foreigners...killing and looting their properties. Those cheap foreign labourers are contributing to your system and reducing the cost of goods, many create their own employment and invest into South African system.

Funny enough Mugabe and some Zimbawean crying out now were doing the same to white farmers and other foreign owned businesses some years ago, then white farmers who were the driving force behind ZImbabwean economy left and the economy collapsed, ZImbabweans were jumping fences to claim asylum in SA. The land they were fighting for is there now wasting. Commercial white farmers are gone but Zimbawean can't use the same land to produce their own food.

Those uneducated barbaric South Africans have a very short memories.

hence those foreigners in the US are in that country legally, are not doing criminal activities and for doing those jobs they don't call Americans lazy...the people we are talking about are not bringing anything to our economy,in stead we are sharing our limited resources with them,can you tell me one country having over 6 illegal immigrants?only SA...here is something to digest

our former heavy weight boxer was shot and killed by illegal immigrants in Pretoria 2 yrs ago

our well known reggae musician was shot and killed by foreigners

1 month ago foreigners were caught on the National television camera robbing a presenter

killers of our senior national foot ball team are untraceable....

i know you and your fellow country men dont want to hear this,xenophobia in SA does nt come out from the blues,you must be grateful that majority of south Africans are against these attacks..

justwise:
why are they not taking those jobs?
Why do you think that employers are giving those jobs to foreigners and not igneous South Africans?

employers are employing foreigners because
1.they are cheap laborers
2.labour relations act does not apply

samtol4:
Can the uneducated black SA work in the hospitals as doctor? How many medical doctors do you have in SA?if all foreigner doctors leave SA your people will die like fowl .Your govt know all these fact .How many qualified PhD holders are black SA?How many professors are black SA?if all foreign lecturer leave your educational system will collapsed You don't want them around you but your government want their skills. and money .Can you list these jobs taken by foreigners? There is no foreigner working in shoprite and other places If you don't want foreigners there are machinery in place to deport them ,Killing them now the answer? Those locals looting don't want to work they want free thing because end of apartheid means "everything will be free" They loot shops and stores where they can see food to eat,they didn't loot barbing saloon because clipper no be food ,dey no loot coffin maker store because coffin no b bread .where were they when foreigners open and purchase these stores, businesses and houses ?Now business is booming they say they must leave abi leave their properties for you guys ? You need to tell yourself bitter truth your government is a failure just like the Nigerian government .

you are ill informed,if immigrants who are been attacked are doctors,what are they doing on the streets?are they not supposed to be in the hospitals treating patients?
here is my list of jobs our lazy people are crying for
1.grass cutters
2.security guards
3.petrol attendents
4.cleaners
5.shoe repairers
6.barbers
7.barkers
8.drivers
9.waitress
10.sewers...etc etc

the very mentality about black south African you are showing here is one of the factors fueling xenophobia...you know nothing about south Africans,so according to you only foreigners are studying in the south African universities?

The king has spoken....

kwere2kicker:
Are you talking about the hot sun? , NO man; our weather is perfect in nageria, it keeps our skin more african . Don't forget we are the giant of africa Go nageria go

lol...yes oo

samtol4:
.I have many wonderful SA friends they are nice because they are learned but uneducated black SA can be nightmare. Whether he make investment or not that does not justify killing . I know many Nigerians here who have hotels and businesses employing black SA.A barber or shoe repairer is 100times better than an uneducated black SA who is waiting for government grants .Why can't these your locals learn a trade than roaming about?Are you aware we have thousands of SA homeless and hungry in Durban?We can engaged in a sincere discourse if you care .

if south Africans are lazy ,just go back to your country so that we can see if their can't do the kind of jobs your country people are doing,the so called lazy illiterates are saying that you are taking their jobs...it means you educated people are taking jobs supposed to be done by the uneducated...

samtol4:
He has invested a lot why allowed hungry lazy locals to loot his life saving?

do you think a barber or shoe repairer can do investments?