iterator24: you respond to questions like a 4 year old ;( ... you're united because you have a cause to fight..... when you succeed in removing all statues, evicting all foreigners and investors.. what follows?
iterator24: "If I visit you in a dirty shack, i wouldn't care if i drop my candy wrapper on your floor." listen, the eviction of all foreigners will not solve your problem..and regardless of the negative economic impact it will breed, a tribal unrest will follow.. watch this space...
tribal unrest? South Africa is not Nigeria where Nigerians are always on each others necks due to tribalism....in 2008 there were massive xenophobic attacks in SA,were they followed by tribal unrest?not at all mate,those attacks were followed by the 2010 world cup..coming up after these so called attacks is the common wealth games,that's SA for you
Horus: South Africa have a burden of whites racists who train you mentaly and subliminaly to think and act like like them.
Whites racists are still in control of your economy to keep you in poverty yet you blame foreigners for your own poverty.
Whites racists will never love you and they will never help you.
Whites racists in South Africa use the "divide and rule" method agaisnt blacks to prevents smaller power groups of blacks from linking up, and this simply allow whites to stay in control of your economy
Kick out all white racists from your country and take control of your own economy and take your lands back.
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa...you have spoken my brother...the very white people are the ones helping you in your fight against BH,how do you like that?
samtol4: If there are many illegal foreigners why not use the right medium to send them home? Killing and Xenophobia the best you can do ? Illegal activities? Like doing business in the shop abi having Canteen ? I know many Igbo women here that run Canteens and they employed black SA as waiters. Bros for the past months I have been going to Durban Magistrate court to do my research on foreigners having criminal cases .I was not surprise that 95percent of crimes were committed by Black SA . I Concur few foreigners engaged in illegal business but Majority are even helping your government by employing many black SA. I know a Yoruba medical doctor that own a big hotel and 80percent staff are Black SA has the law stipulate . There is no University in SA without a Nigerian especially Yoruba people lecturing and helping your kids .In fact the current Dean faculty of Architecture in one of the best Universities in SA is one Prof Adebayo .Yet your people says " send all foreigners away ".Above all Foreigners especially Nigerians remain the bedrock of SA economy .I discuss issues I don't attack personality .
so you have visited all south African universities and found Nigerians in all of them?from Univen,North west,free state to fort hare en so forth?I don't believe that claim...the south African economy was intact before even Nigerians come here,for you to say that Nigerians are the backbone of SA economy,its just an empty boost...there are Nigerians doctors and engineers working in the UK,can you also claim that they are the backbone of UK economy...?note that am not condoning xenophobia but I differ with the generalization perpetuated here..
iterator24: look dude, i have better things to do.. you'd make SA a better place if you condemn all xenophobic violence with whichever medium you choose... later
where is your barber shop located? High point or joubert park ?see ya there
iterator24: i can point to many posts of your's where you labelled all Nigerians. I have different user handles so i've been on this platform for a while.. just gave you a taste of your own medicine bra.. and shove your friendly advice where the sun don't shine, its the last thing i need.
saffer preaching objectivity, ta! a pig will fly
point those posts,if you can get one ...you will stay in my family house in Orlando east for free...you will also get a south African identity document as my twin brother with your new name Muzi ka Ngubane
samtol4: I discuss issues I don't attack personality.I solated incidents? @Mr Mduza please get me right .I don't generalized that all black SA are bad I have nice Zulu friends who are educated and industrious .What am saying is this "the number of lazy, hungry and homeless black SA are increasing in recent times and your govt has no solution to this problem.These locals constitute serious problem not only to foreigners but to SA citizens at large .Do you know I have never seen black SA owning barbing saloon shops,small scale businesses like what is obtainable in many countries whereby those that are not educated are engaged in Skill acquisition. Why can't black SA learn skills like barbing? The locals want to eat and look good like foreigners but they are too lazy to pay the price .Interestingly Indians and Pakistan are not regarded as foreigners in SA but Zimbabwe and Nigeria are seen and treated as foreigners .
iterator24: not all immigrants the world over are saints! Americans are not even freaking out if we look at their case
let me be specific...my point is there are bad and good foreigners..unfortunately many foreigners in SA are in the country illegally and many are involved in illegal activities...
iterator24: i'm not obsessed with ignorance dude, I'm on a forum remember? oh, 'foreigners' are not allowed to quote you?
here is my friendly advice,next time when you create a topic,dont generalize,try to be objective and don't create it with the aim of inviting insults and mockery...remember matters of national interests should be the priority..
iterator24: ok.. 'since my statement says so'.. i agree with you. i understand you won't agree that your ssystem frustrates some nigerians amongst other migrants to getting assylums. explain to me. why do you think many of this guys own cars, cyber caffes, run some businesses that get them over 8g monthly still uses assylum?
look dude, i hate engaging saffers on issues they know little of. ... i'd advice you stop feeding on online rhetorics and rumors. Many just wants green pastures, same for the nigeriens , chadians, chineese , togolese etc in Nigeria.. the sooner your govt institutions, down to masses re-orient themselves, the better.
samtol4: "generosity of housing"where were u when he was investing and paying taxes?now he has established himself you want to chase him away and collect free properties !NO WAY SAY NO TO XENOPHOBIA
who told you he is investing and paying tax?by the way my point is this guy resides here in SA,he knows exactly what's going on but he comes here, paint a bad picture of all black south Africans including yourself if you are one...shying away from the fact that these are isolated incidents ...
iterator24: english issues, does my statement say, all nigerians have permits? 30% brains
your statement says there is no Nigerian seeking asylum in SA...therefore am telling you that your country men and women queue for it daily in Pretoria..
iterator24: What burden do foreigners have on SA? what have you seen? i believe you and the people that liked your comment are first class ignoramus... Nigeria has more illlegal and legal foreigners than SA.....FACT! I think the fact that we put up with foreign nationals doesnt go well with you people. and please, try researching before making false claims mduZA..
i'll stay in the background and be on the lookout
which foreigners? You mean the igbos in Lagos?......putting up foreigners in your country ,what does that have to do with SA?...are you dreaming?
morpheus24: They are in denial and don't want to loose those millions of "white" foreigners who are bringing money into their economy so they camouflage Xenophobia as just criminal activity.
so in your own admission the black immigrants are not bringing money into our economy?...by the way which white foreigners are you talking about?...am told you are also an asylum holder here in SA,you don't appreciate our generosity of housing you...you are all over nairaland insulting our country...why can't you go back to your country?
morpheus24: Yes, deflecting again. This forum has opened up multiple threads that are currently discussing issues concerning comments made by an Oba of Lagos against Ibos and general ethnic issues in Nigeria. Where are your own forums on Xenophobia and general South African matters we can chime in on.
When your dirty laundry is aired for all the World to see you are now on the defensive and trying to deflect.
PS there are not millions and millions of African immigrants in South Africa, There are roughly 3 million Zimbabwean immigrants who are pretty much your neighbours so we know why their numbers are that high. The rest are a group of an additional 1 million African immigrants who are from the rest of Africa with SADC countries making up the bulk.
How can 4 million immigrants terrorize and invoke fear on 49 million strong Black South Africans
if Nigeria had a burden of foreigners equal to SA many would be killed,eaten and sacrificed....you have already sacrificed our very own people all in the name of religion..
stillchris: papa ajasco. so you admit eko atlantic city project is awesome. thanks. so what's not to celebrate? you goofed.
it's a Nigerian project.
and unless SA built it's railways and mega cities (we all know the europeans did it), you are definitely on a jonzing level
you goofed no,I don't even know it...the thing is your fellow country men here always talk about white infrastructure in SA ignoring the fact that the 100 % Nigerian black nation depends on white people when it comes to development except the black magic ...tribalism and witchcraft...thanx for admitting that it belongs to the Europeans
morpheus24: Stop the distractions and stop focusing on my anger. Focus on the anger and jealousy by your comrades that is trying to be deflected here.
No apologist, we need people who will face up to facts.
you can't face up facts yourself,you have no clue of what a spaza shop is ,a spaza shop means a toy shop..this thing of saying that south Africans are jealous is far from the truth..jealous of what? Toy shops? Gardeners,barbers and gate boys?...some south Africans only hate foreigners because many of them are here illegally and are involved in illegal doings..
V0lv0: Am sorry to say this but this is far from the truth. South Africans generally do not like foreigners from the educated to the uneducated. It's not an exaggeration it's the truth. The only foreign country that is exempted from your hate is Botswana and maybe Lesotho
if what you are saying was true,there would be no foreigners in SA...Sesotho and Setswana are also our official languages therefore these two countries are part of us..
morpheus24: Stop deflecting and distracting, If you want to discuss Nigerian ethnic matters, there are a bunch of threads on those you can chime in on.
Why can't your people look for civilized solutions to your jealousy issues?
Does anyone force your locals to buy from foreign shops in the township, Why do you patronize them. Why can't you buy your own stuff and practice group economics?
Why do you go shopping at malls in Sandton and Capetown who's owners are foreign companies that make products at cheap and you buy them at exhorbitant prices. Why are you not tearing down those stores?
What are you doing about the foreign white nationals who are circumventing your immigration laws and living in South Africa, is it because you cannot reach them or afraid they will organize and come get you?
mate your anger is alarming,your very own people are chasing each other out of Lagos...you are here crying foul about isolated incidents in SA...if you were wise enough you would have been more concerned about what is happening in your own land....there are millions and millions of African immigrants in SA,they are not experiencing anything like xenophobic attacks because majority of south Africans are not xenophobic....you are painting a bad picture so that you and your fellow country men can do what you know best...throwing insults...
Horus: There are South Africans going around beating up "foreign" Blacks, burning down their businesses and killing some, yet, are doing nothing about the racist Whites that still live in their country, still discriminate against them in their own nation, still are plotting against them and their demise, that belong to Neo-Nazi and other race-hate groups, have been known to hunt down and kill a Black person, even a Black child, like they are hunting animals.
forget about the racist whites,SA is their country too...what are you doing about your own black people who are discriminating against other black people,like your own people who are demanding that igbos should be chased out of lagos?
Henry120: What's not to celebrate in Eko Atlantic city and centenary city?
What's not to celebrate in Nigeria's Rail project been listed in the world's top 10 projects of 2014?
So, tell us what's not to celebrate....... Should the decaying Apartheid infrastructure be celebrated instead?
can't believe you are boosting about eko Atlantic ,a project belonging to the Europeans....of course it suits you that's why you can't sing the white people song
,your rail project was also built by the Chinese....anyway congratulations are in order for these achievements...
oh I see....you are one of the angry people that we always see on this forum...you can't even comprehend a simple genuine comment because you have already made your own ignorant conclusion....
RIght 49 million vs 6 million is a substantial enough ratio to justify xenophobia, Why not just bar them from school and hospitals?
Not worth a response.
Again a silly justification for burning people and killing them but then again you guys are an angry lot so that's how you have been trained to react like animals. Your illiterate backward kings make statements and people die.
On Friday night the 22-year-old became the latest victim of a spate of xenophobic attacks that has engulfed Durban.
Marcus died at Prince Mshiyeni Memorial Hospital in Umlazi at 8pm on Friday night with third-degree burns.
His brother Alex, 24, was also burnt when a mob locked them inside the container in which they had set up their shop and torched it.
His brother sustained burn wounds on his head, left arm and both legs.
Speaking from his hospital bed yesterday - unaware that his brother had died - Alex recounted how they were trapped inside the burning container for an hour.
It was only after Point Sindane, 67, the owner of the property on which their shop stood, in Umlazi's W section, managed to open the door with a crowbar that they were able to get out. Sindane used a hosepipe to extinguish the flames eating away at their bodies.
"My body is still burning," said Alex yesterday. "I was crying inside the container while I was burning. We were locked inside for almost an hour."
He said his brother had joined him only four months ago to help him run the spaza shop. Their goods, worth more than R20000, were burned to ashes inside the container.
"It's painful what they are doing to us. We are all Africans. My brother and I were just working - why kill us?" said Alex.
Despite the attack he is determined to remain in South Africa.
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The brothers' story is similar to that of thousands of other foreigners - from Malawi, Ethiopia, Somalia, Mozambique, the DRC and Tanzania- who have been driven from their communities since the attacks started in Isipingo, south of Durban, three weeks ago.
The displaced families are living in transit camps at Isipingo Beach and in Chatsworth.
The attacks on foreigners have been linked to King Goodwill Zwelithini, who, in Pongola on March 20, urged the government to expel them.
This week hundreds of foreigners fled their homes in Chatsworth and Sydenham after coming under attack. Their properties were ransacked and looted on Tuesday night, and dozens of people were injured in Umlazi on Thursday night.
On Friday, there were attacks in the Unit 11 informal settlement in Chatsworth and in Umlazi resulting in dozens of families taking refuge at the local police station.
They were taken to a local football ground, where a temporary camp and marquees were erected to accommodate them.
SA Human Rights Commission spokesman Isaac Mangena said the alleged utterances of the king, and the comments last week by President Jacob Zuma's son, Edward, were being investigated.
The president's son reportedly told News24.com: "We need to be aware that, as a country, we are sitting on a ticking time bomb of them [foreigners] taking over the country. We can't rule out the possibility of a coup in the future."
generally there is no xenophobic attacks in south Africa,,infact there are few incidents ofwhich people like you are making unnecessary exaggeration...majority of south Africans are against such acts that's why millions and millions of these immigrants are not affected...
lezz: political emotions, Zulu. Many yorubas have decried that Oba's statement.
Funny thing is that South Africa isn't going to be even No.2 on the continent eventually.
SA is not in competition with any country...those countries competing with SA are doing it on their own peril..their inhabitants called humans are suffering from ego and inferiority complexity...am done with you,and remember you will have my recognition when you start drinking water from a tap.."shelele"
Foreign Affairs › Re: The Xenophobes Of South Africa by MduZA: 1:46pm On Apr 14, 2015
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