lezz: they needn't deny it, my boy. They are stating their heritage which stand in sharp contrast to yours.
I have caught you in other threads where you descended to the brainless savage you are and hate on Nigerians. So you're always having emotional diarrhoea wherever Nigeria is mentioned.
I can't be a tribalist, my Zulu stooge. The reason the citizens of Nigeria stgand head above any African country is because of her tribal diversity. The yorubas alone with their literary and educational prowess , organisational skills are a threat, not to mention the entrepreneurial igbos who combine hardwork, education, mobility and risk-taking to colonise you in your very streets.
Then the southern Nigerians who have the swagger and cosmopolitan heritage to morph into any society with great adaptability and sophistication. The Middle-belterns are a cultural and intelectual spread between the north and the South.
hence a call was made that igbos should vacate Lagos...kwerekwere read this carefully,I don't hate Nigerians but hate only haters..i told you that you will only play the big brother in your imagination ,in reality you remain a refugee in foreign lands..
lezz: nope, you're going off to loot shops your fellow hungry savages just finished invading led by your commander in chief, the Zulu King.
Those shops are owned by foreigners not South Africans.
By the way, Nigeria has got more rich people than South Africa. Happy looting spree to the Zulu king and co.
Laziness, docility, savagery have forever marked your legacy. Hope you noticed how your compatriots here a denying being blacks South Africans....when will you?
so you want those compatriots to admit that they are black even though they are not...in one of my posts I told you that your tribalism behavior is alarming,you are proofing me right...i do understand your situation though ,you are a Nigerian...you are playing the Yoruba vs igbo primitive game with the wrong person...to me you remain a kwerekwere..
lezz: listen, I read 4 lines from your nonsensical post and left with the conclusion that your brain power is just as low as your Zulu king.
Black South African should get better education and training and naturally they will get better employment . The Anglo Dutch prefers hiring foreign black national who has got better training and education than you laidback, drug-sniffing möröñ.
Send your lamentations to BBC over the "ticking time bomb", i was only reporting what they published which is accurate anyway.
oh I do understand now ,Nigerians go to universities so that they can be employed in SA by white south Africans as gardeners and grass cutters...selling tap water in the rusty streets of Lagos does not resemble hard working to me ,it only tells how poverty stricken your country is...see you later ,am now going to cut my hair,as usual the barber is a Nigerian university graduate..
lezz: I don't expect you to agree to facts; it isn't in your nature.
Whites do not complain because they are secure in their learning and education.
Nigeria and Congolese, Ghanaians, Somalia a and Zimbabweans came into SA to take the jobs created by the fall of apartheid which you Zulu morons couldn't handle and unqualified to take. That's is globalisation, boy.
Why is the ANC making it mandatory for 75% black representatives to be employed? That's insecurity.
In South Africa the best pilots in your schools are traditionally meant to go into the air force while the average ones go into commercial flight. Well, since blacks do not come up tops despite their population, the ANC government are placing Zulu monkeys on the air force and directing whites to fly commercial.
We pity your incompetent, blond government. Ticking time bomb BBC says.
so you are also wishing for ticking bomb to explode?if it does do you know what does that mean?it means all the Nigerian animals will go back to their zoo land...you are now beating your chest about Amakwerekwere taking jobs from south Africans ,on the other hand you are crying foul when south Africans raise their concerns..mate I don't want to agree or disagree with you in anything the bottom line is as much as you try hard to show your artificial muscles on this thread,the reality on the ground is different...some of your arguments are laughable,it shows how frustrated Nigerians are,if I may ask you...as a Nigerian what is your problem if best south African student pilots are channeled for the air force and the average ones go into commercial?,by the way those you claim are average,are the ones flying over your roof daily therefore you should show appreciation...as long as there is a country called south Africa,you will only play that giant game in west Africa....
lezz: you are trolling in circles now and doing vian repeatisions. After reading the xenophobic attacks I posted now, you're still taking about Nigerians flocking into SA.
Your Zulu king and president's son is asking foreigners to leave. Why is it that whites do not complain? It is because they are equipped and qualified hence they do not see foreigners as threat.
But the feeding bottle-sucking overgrown black babies who can't look after themselves are murdering Congolese, Kenyans, Somalians for the fear of being left out of work.
Which Europeans own Atlantic City in Nigeria. You're as desperate now as your besieged troops were in Angola in 1988. Stop talking nonsense.
We have built the best economy and biggest in Africa and have the richest black people on earth. Our entrepreneurial skills is second to none on the continent.
You're saving grace is that you're 50 million, Angola would have knocked you out of the ring a long time ago.
The Anglo -Dutch remains your shield, Angola and Nigerians are your TRUE masters.
Each xenophobic attacks is a depiction of your insecurity and incompetency.
it would not make sense for white people to complain about foreigners who are not sharing resources with them ,remember these kwerekweres are sharing resources with black people ...attacks or no attacks Nigerians will keep on flocking to SA running away from your pathetic country,they rather die in foreign land..you can scream on top of your voice denying..thats your naturalistic behavior but the fact remains eko Atlantic belongs to the Europeans...you are still telling me about your huge empty GDP which is only catering few elite people...you will only play that master game in your imagination but in reality you remain a refugee in foreign lands...
lezz: South African police have arrested 17 people and opened murder cases after attacks on foreign nationals in Durban.
The violence comes in the wake of alleged comments by the Zulu king telling migrants to go home - although the he says he was mistranslated.
But Home Affairs Minister Malusi Gigaba has called on traditional leaders to stop making remarks that "could result in a loss of life".
At least 62 people died in xenophobic attacks that swept the country in 2008.
For the latest news, views and analysis see the BBC Africa Live page.
Following the alleged comments by King Goodwill Zwelithini at the end of March, 250 people have been attacked, mostly from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and foreign-owned shops have been looted in the port city of Durban.
More than 1,000 mainly African migrants have fled their homes, some going to police stations and other are being housed in tents on a sports field. Zulu King Goodwill Zwelithini, like other traditional leaders, is widely respected South Africa's Business Day newspaper reports that at least three people have been killed and that a Somali shopkeeper is in a critical condition.
Police spokesperson Maj Thulani Zwane told the BBC that the police do not know exactly how many people have been killed, but that some were South African nationals and some were foreigners.
'Ticking time bomb'
South African President Jacob Zuma's son, Edward, has come out in support of the Zulu king's alleged comments. Thousands of African migrants have fled their homes around Durban fearing attack "We need to be aware that as a country we are sitting on a ticking time bomb," he said, adding that foreigners were "taking over the country".
Raphael Baheybwa-Kambambire, president of Congolese Solidarity campaign, told the BBC that religious leaders met with Zulu monarch on Thursday.
King Zwelithini told them he was talking "only about those who don't have papers and documentation in South Africa".
Mr Gigaba said on Thursday evening that it was important not to incite violence.
"Africa in particular must not think that we hate fellow Africans so much that we are prepared to do the worst to cause them harm," he said.
On Wednesday, hundreds of people marched in front of the Durban's City Hall in protest against the xenophobic violence.
Durban-based journalist Jeff Wicks told the BBC's Newsday programme that it does not take much to stoke tensions.
Xenophobic violence flares up in townships where living conditions are poor for all those living there, irrespective of where they come from, he says.
time bomb ticking",that's the only sentence driving the entire essay of yours...your wishful thinking
lezz: pplitical times my dear, is fraught with emtions which spilt over from the mouth of the Oba of Lagos.
Every Nigerian has condemned it including the Oba'a poeple.
But everyone knows pre 1994 south Africa is alot better than post 1994 South Africa which is marked by räpe, infrastructural decay, HIV prevalence, corruption, incompetence, violence, economic stagnation, collapse of government firms and institution, low school attendance , high penchant for drugs, (which few Nigerians gladly supply you and yours)
The truth is many africans came to South Africa after helping you alight from your trees and mountains after putting pressure on your Dutch conquerors to allow you attend school and become humans again.
Problem is 21 years after the Dutch act of kindness, you lazy South african still haven't caught up to modern trends,so Nigerians and co have to fill in the jobs and vacancies left open. That's still little in comparison to what we did for you.
You have to show some sense of gratitude.
.......i was almost forgetting this...
Tell me, what did you and your fathers built and contributed in South Africa?
because we built Nigeria with our bare hands and blood. And just after 55 years, we are Africa's No. 1 economy.
your bare hands and blood only built mokoko slums in the city of Lagos built by the British, your bridges,highways rails en so forth are built by the chinese even the eko Atlantic we are hearing about belongs to the Europeans...your GDP is just like a huge empty house,check out the global economic competitiveness index ,your country is at the bottom....your country men and women are flocking to SA like flies for green pastures because that GDP only caters for few,the elites ...since you are over populated you need to triple it...you seem not to appreciate what SA is doing for you,creating jobs for you in your own country,feeding you with food,you are watching our tv channels that's why you know too much about SA than your own country,our airways are flying over your roofs daily ..on the other hand we are housing nearly 1million Nigerian refugees ...swallow your empty pride and say thank SA for your generosity...you keep on mentioning infrastructure,I hate talking about it particularly with people who only see a moving train once a year...a diesel one in this case...you talking about rape and corruption in SA like if it does not occur in your country...this clearly shows how blind you are...
lezz: Zulu is own by Christopher boy, not your Zulu-Xhosa, bantu-Tswana savages. You keep talking about foreign companies. Boy, didn't anybody teach you globalisation and the muscle of the international market? Australian power generating firms are owned by mostly foreigners. That's what the game is.
It is unfortunate that the opinion of the average Nigerian mirrors the exact opinion of the world.
Desmond tutu and co is wishing for the return of apartheid regime where savages like you are kept in the bushes and mountains far away from civility.
A country where 90% black population is feeding on the labours of 5% Europeans.
Your shoprite is enjoying economic asylum in Nigeria. You are a pariah to development and progress and fair growth, so they are fleeing from you like the leprose wretch you are.
Your Julius Melamo admitted that they would prefer to seize white lands but "they run the economy"
I need clear facts from you, boy, not a goat drinking water from pool nonsense.
Because as we speak, you're still a 21st century slave with no history and identification.
do not forget that incompetence and violence is a byword for South Africans now.
you sound clueless that's why you seem not seeing what's happening in your country unless you are one of those typical ignorant Nigerians that we see on this forum...Desmond tutu and malema views are uniquely theirs and have rights to express them just like many Nigerians who wish to return to the Abacha regime...fact remains your country is pathetic that's why Nigerians are flocking to SA for green pastures,2 weeks back one of your cabinet ministers was seen queuing with ordinary south africans for medical checkup at the Chris hani baragwanath hospital,south African authorities were not aware of his visit,he flew all the way from your zooland to SA just for medical checkup,I have noticed that you mention south African tribes in every post,am not surprised....thats how you people play your primitive tribal games....i hear that igbos are no longer wanted in Lagos...yeses
lezz: hmm, patches is hurting and trolling again. Alright let's break it down.
Nigerian you say are known for drugs and prostitution, nope son, we are known as the most educated people America and the richest black people on earth. But you might be slightly correct on the drug side as we have turned many of your fruitless and lazy blacks into junkies and your women in couriers and love-vendor-princesses.
Since we are Africa's best I demand respect and decorum when you talk to me. Where is your sense of hierarchical standing?
And if I hear you talk about infrastruction again, I'm going to strength forth my hand a cross this platform and give you a sound non-e-slap for your stupidity.
South Africa was developing as a European extension for over 300 years by the Dutch and British as home away from home when your forebears were building Zulu bush hut and loving in caves.
Nigeria started off building by 1960 and have done a wonderful job. We are your superiors patches. You don't believe me? Then why have you been a nairaland e-squatter for years now?
Nigerians come into South Africa to fill in jobs your lazy, illiterate population has no idea what to do about. Not only Nigerians but Ghanaians, Zimbabweans etc. You guys are lazy, unresourceful and unproductive.
There are lots of Chinese, Indian and Koreans in Nigeria despite their economic size.
Your firms are giving their right arm to come into Nigeria where there are no ANC government to mandate them to give their hard earned money to lazy quacks like you and your lazy folks.
I repeat if not for the anglo-Dutch, Nigeria will enslave you even in the 21st century.
incompetent savages.
I forgot.....do your HIV ridden population still räpë children in the savage belief it cures them of their curse?
if indeed this is what an average Nigerian thinks,all I can say is your population is still suffering from Ebola trauma ,if I were you I would be ashamed to mention HIV-aids related matters because your country has the highest figures when it comes to death caused by HIV...to me your country looks like a jungle,one thing that you should appreciate is we are hosting thousands and thousands of your brothers and sisters who are just wandering in our streets...many of them are street vendors ,barbers and shoe repairers...according to them street life in SA is much better unlike living like animals in their own country where people drink water from the same pool with pigs and goats...i can't believe a Nigerian is trying to lecture a south African about infrastructure....SA is not in your league..never will..you will only wish and dream...if you were hard working and creative people as you claim,some of the foreign companies that are milking your pockets dry were not supposed to be there in the first place,your country imports even mere tap water, it shows how pathetic your country is..the British built that zoo for you... Plus foreigners are the ones doing every infrastructural development in Nigeria but you are here showing fake muscles...anyway let me leave you in those dreams.. Indeed shoprite bread is enhancing your futile enthusiasm
all4naija: We've already done that. Now it's time to invade Townships with our army and bring sense to the Zulus and Xhosas in their xenophobic inclinations. I think we are wasting much of important time to do that by relenting to see South Africa as our younger brother's nation. Bwahaha...
Go Nigeria, the true GIANT of Africa!
invade our townships with the help of Chad,Cameroon,Niger and our very own mercenaries ,I guess...
godoluwa: South Africa goverment must be joking. South Africa iz even corrupt than Nigeria. South Africa iz d haven of fraudster and cocaine smugglers. if u've eva been to S.A, I expect u to understand what am saying. all dis noise here & shall die down after may29. Some will surely cry 4 their action
tell one thing that SA is importing from Nigeria...your country needs SA more
lezz: I am going to be real and you're going to get hurt.
You compare the united states to south Africa. Well, they both share something in common; the scum of the black race.
America is still seen as a white country whose military, economic and technological superiority are all driven by the white man.
Blacks make up 13% of the population which put them roughly within 60 million people but they never managed to make their mark outside music and sports despite being in the land of the free and most technologically advanced country on earth.
South Africa in all honesty was built, organised and structured by the anglo-dutch as an extension of Europe over 300 years ago. despite blacks being over 90% of the population. It was Europe away from Europe.
Then in 1994 apartheid become unpopular. Black southies were asked to partake in civilised conduct and they voted themselves into power via population count.
South Africa has been nose diving and free falling in all possible indexes. From a stagnant economy to poor organisation; from crime to city-decay; from corruption to mismanagement; inefficiency to poor standard of education; infrastructural decay to urban crimes, mass sexual to other sexual maladjustments. Whites are fleeing from Johannesburg to sandton as blacks move in.
Anglo-dutch companies are fleeing south Africa due to harsh ANC policies and setting up shops in other African countries, especially Nigeria. Blacks are mismanaging firms, institutions own and built by anglo-dutch.
There's no single aspect of the economy, society or institution the anglo-dutch built that the blacks have improved upon. instead they brag and boast in Africa of what the anglo-dutch had built and seek to intimidate others with it and yet lacking in ideas on how to improve on them.
Consequently, and rightly so, the world still views every good thing that comes out of South Africa has a credit to the anglo-dutch. Just as any wonderful piece of innovation from the US is automatically tied to the Anglo-Saxon or whites.
That is why south Africa lacks legitimacy in Africa. That's why she isn't a leader. That is why she cannot encourage and spur Africa to greatness. South Africa has had a peaceful and smooth "democratic" transition of power for 21 years but yet the world reacted in Nigerian just concluded general elections as if it were the first of its kind in Africa.
It is because the world is waiting for an African magic and leadership which credit can be given to african without the proverbial feeding bottle of the white man; something the world can report in their tabloids and say, AFRICA HAS DONE IT. That's what south Africa can NEVER GIVE TO AFRICA. she isn't a country of white/black/Jewish etc etc. She is almost 90% black. And she can't give credit to the entire black Africa when she can't even differentiate between civil rule and democracy, can't understand international politics or build an economy.
Like the ISS report says, south Africa is "punching above their weight". That's what you guys are doing here with a blatant show of ignorance , misled by a confused and misguided educational system which couldn't adjust to the realities of pre-apartheid South Africa and post -apartheid South Africa.
So tell us what gives any african nation legitimacy over another. To you any nation even the US with its now +40% Latin/Spanish speaking population should now also consider itself not legitimate.
Guy you have some serious issues and by my account its beyond a mental condition.
we are learning something here,I used to ask myself why these people always fight tribal wars,some of the the arguments herein clearly show how backwards these guys are...
lezz: Healthcare? Your citizens are the most HIV infected in the world, your health care is a 0. But I no you must be talking about few private hospitals own by Anglo -Dutch.
Education? What nonsense? The vast majority of your population are pap guzzlers too busy feeling the victim of anglo-Dutch oppression and thinking of stealing their companies and running their firms to the ground to get any proper education. Nigerians on the other hands are Nobel literary winners being the most educated people in the America.
Infrastructure? I could give you that. But we all know all the cities the anglo-Dutch built for you are turning into slums. Fact.
Entertainment? You are a hopless slowpoke running out of point. Nigeria remains the entertainment headquarters of Africa. Channel O broadcast us FREE OF CHARGE.
DSTV? how does that change the fact that you're no. 2 in Africa? Your petty mindedness is alarming.
Beaches Wildlife Hotels , Stupid criteria not worth the efforts of disputing. You really are silly.
Technology? Not anymore, all your companies are foreign and the few left are all Anglo Dutch, son. You have nothing.
Sports? What are you taking about. Football and track and field we remain your superiors and those are the sports Africa care about.
I hope you have read the report by ISS ? We remain your superior and that report happened to mirror my prediction last year.
South Africa is an ignorant, misguided nation with no sense of international play, tact, and power. A country ran by blacks who went to school too old, too late and who seem confused picking up where the anglo-Dutch left off.
a Nigerian will scream on top of his voice lying and fantasizing just to make himself look good...
ArtanK: Stats are online and I have no quarrels with South Africans as long as you keep your village idiots in check. Refer to the comments above.
you are quick to write about murder cases in SA as if they don't occur in your country...nobody is quarreling with you,I can give you some anger management lessons if you don't mind
In a sane world, a South African would be the last person on earth to talk to me about killing considering the murder rate in your country. Don't act like the voice of reason after I've made all of your points fallacious, you're still rambling on because you can't accept that I defeated your silly argument.
But stay here then, I do not give two flying fvcks.
south Africa releases its murder stats for the world to see,while some countries can't release theirs...
walterenahoro: funny!!!!! u ppl dat cld not even remove pain ur colonial masters inflicted from ur land till naija came....mind u we dnt run to d west for help d run to help us....coz dey no if dey dnt dey wld luz big time....fyskt.....we do non-allingment
before we remove white people from here,go and claim all African Americans and all Africans living in europe,the Zambians ,Tanzanians and many African countries played significant roles to bring down the apartheid regime unlike your country which was playing hide and seek via the UN...Initially Badluck Jonathan ran to the west seeking help with regard to BH,his move was turned down...surely you know what the president of Uganda had to say ...hey brother you are just showing fake muscles
walterenahoro: when was south africa eva d highest in anytin....and wat do dey want to take over in africa.....u guys no nigeria and egypt are both da boss but u do as if u dont see....slaves of d west....nigeria shld have left u wen dey almost killed u guys
slaves of the west are those who always run to America and Europe for help whenever they face challenges in their country...very soon you will hear how SA played a role in removing your bad luck Jonathan..
all4naija: Those are the same white people you asked your government to discipline or jail when they return back to South Africa you are using to compliment your country now. Bwahaha... You would use anything to defend the petty power of your country when it suits you. You hypocrite!
am defending nothing here my man...the thing is you Nigerians live in the world of dreams and fantasies....
mikron: which mercenaries? ur coward force that refused to lend a hand in stopping the liberian and sierra leonean wars? hahahaha naija fought this battle against the boko boys with external help from cameroun, chad and niger. capish? lest i forget ur foreign affairs minister or was it ur ambassador to nigeria denied that no south African mercenaries are fighting boko haram in Nigeria so i dont know where u got ur facts from
truth shall set you free....fact remains,your government hired south African mercenaries to fight BH...
mikron: so u re here telling us u can contain Boko haram? Deadly suicide bombers? How can u contain them? We re at the last lap in eradicating these terrorists from our country thank God for the multinational joint task force. Pray ur country don't encounter terrorism.
99 south Africa mercenaries are showing your soldiers how to do it...
blackpanther25: Is Khayelitsha not a township? That was not the point of the argument. Punky said every home in townships have toilets and do not make use of the bucket system which is a damn right lie.
surely you are picking up the informal settlements of khayelitsha....south African townships dont use the bucket system...bucket system only exists in informal settlements
PunkyOh: They are all here I'm sure, ask people like DieVluit, MduZa, VandalZa, BluIvy etc the difference between Kasi/Loxion & a Skwatta Camp. There's a difference.
true that,the word township comes from the word town,south African townships can be compared with Nigerians towns..the fool you are arguing with can't differentiate between townships and skwata camps(informal settlements) because he is only familiar with Mokoko slams in lagos..inkinga yake umona