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texanomaly: You are right he completely defined the word wrong.


vis·age (vzj)
n.
1. The face or facial expression of a person; countenance.

2. Appearance; aspect: the bleak visage of winter.

The word refers to ones expression. It does not refer to ones skin tone.

@MEILYN
As I said, I have no problem with a black Jesus. You are simply not proving your thesis here. The scriptures you are using do not prove Christ was black. They only prove that you misunderstand what you are reading.

texanomaly: Wait...He is a liar, and your interpretation is the truth? He could say the same about you, or anyone else who disagrees. I guess.


Really?

Airforce1: Who are u to judge her?

Sometimes u dey yarn dust.

OlaoChi: Sura 5:66 "if only they [Christians] had stood fast by the law, Gospel and all the revelations that was sent to them by their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness, there is from amongst them on the right course but many follow a course that is evil"


4:171 "oh people of the book! Commit no excess in your religion nor say of God what is untrue. Christ Jesus the son of Maryam is nothing but a messenger....say not trinity! Desist! It would be better for you, for God is one God having no son..."

5:72 "Certainly they are disbelievers as they say Allah is the Messiah, son of maryam. And the Messiah said: O! Israel serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates others with Allah shall he been forbidden from paradise and his abode is fire with no helpers..."

9:30 "...Christians call the Messiah the son of God...they imitate what the disbelievers of old used to say, God's curses be on them; how they are deluded from the Truth!..."

10:68 "They say Allah has taken a son [to himself].... You have no authority for this, do you say against Allah what you do not know"

18:4 "And warn those who say God has taken a son"

Sorry but that's what the Quran says about you

OlaoChi: Pls stop rubing your opinions in peoples faces. I see you are one of the many Christians that act like you are all knowing and anyone that opposess you is a liar or lacks understanding

If you can't trace your origin how does that make Israel automatically become the untraced origin.
This is why I am an enemy of religion because it brainwash and makes people talk crazy
Christians claim Israel is their origin, Muslims claim Mecca is their origin

Am more than certain that you are one crazy fellow who likes to misinterpret things. Must the origin of a people be from a faraway land
The Yoruba have Ile-Ife as their origin and claim no where else except the ones beclouded by religious sentiments who claim Mecca and Israel

haibe: Ha bro you need to start reading bible again with help from God, image in that verse has nothing to do with physical appearance, God is a spirit and can't be said to be black like a physical being. Stop this wild assertions, you are endangering a lot of things unknowingly.

haibe: Where did it say they were black and became blacker? I have told you to stop preaching your opinion. black as oven' doesn't not mean they were as oven literally bro, it shows the degree, didn't and simile, didn't you do literature in school?

If I say MEILYN is fast as an hare, does that mean MEILYN would run in an equal speed with an hare, use your brain.

Also I never said Jesus is white, am just saying don't speculate, it's dangerous.

haibe: This verse is as clear as crystal but your ignorance wouldn't point your attention to it

haibe: You preach truth? The truth that God is black? You arr an heretic, I should mind the way I am even conversing with you.

proverbs 28 vs 1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.[/b)<< run my friend.

You hate your own skin colour. Smh. You are worst than a racist. Fools run from knowledge bro the truth is bitter. You should be suprised when you hear the truth.

[b]"And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him." (Mark 1:27).

haibe: 10 Our skin was black like an oven because of
the terrible famine. (Lamentations 5:10)

This verse is a big lie right? SMH!

It says their skin was black for a reason, and that's because of the terrible farmine, this verse is too plain for you to ignore.

Don't be stiffnecked.

OlaoChi: Am irreligious...I see no sense in christianity Plus It's foundation is evil and fraudulent

haibe: Visage means facial appearance, it does mean the whole body as a whole, that justifies that circumstances causes this like farmine and sufferings.

haibe: Forget it bro, you don't have a proof, you are only forcing the scriptures to help your opinion

haibe: Visage means facial appearance, it does mean the whole body as a whole, that justifies that circumstances causes this like farmine and sufferings.

haibe: Forget it bro, you don't have a proof, you are only forcing the scriptures to help your opinion

haibe: Using your logic, if black here means complexion, how can someone be blacker than coal? You are the joker here. I don't mind you showing me a picture of someone blacker than coal.

haibe: Really? What an irony.. You who speculate that Jesus is black is truthful?

haibe: How am supposed to reply you mumbled your posts in between mine.

texanomaly: The bolded is a strong word. He is a liar, because he doesn't believe the way you do? smh

haibe: Adjust your reply well abeg

dagr8: This emboldened is unnecessary, if at all we are willing to share knowledge

haibe: Lol, learn not to make speculations, it's very bad, I noticed this in the other thread too, God is not a man and so cannot be termed black like a physical being. << if God should wear a body and come to earth, He will be a black man. Fact

The description of Jesus in revelations is nothing physical, compare to the ancient of days in daniel 7:9, this are spiritual beings.<< were did the bible say its not physical? And i will ask you the second time. Does Jesus have two looks? When he was on earth, he was white, but his spirit became black in heaven right? Remember he ascended to heaven with his physical body?.

How would you think an human would have a voice as of many waters or a garment as white as snow, having a wheel as of a burning fire? This descriptions depicts their characteristics and not physical appearance. << can you prove it depicts their characteristics and not looks? What does characteristics mean?Lets goto that verse again, let the whole world see what a liar you are.

"Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw." (Revelation 1:2).<< All things John saw. spiritual but he saw christ right? . We cant see spirits can we? How come John saw Christ? If he was a spirit? Smh. Think my friend.

"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters." (Revelation 1:14-15).
<< you are trying hard to fight the bible. If i am asked to describe someone. I will be like, as short as dwarf, fat like cow. Does that make the person a cow and a dwarf? How can you be describing a spirit? He saw Christ and described him. Voice as the sound of many people, waters means people, i can prove that to you, but it will make my post very long. He was describing the looks of christ. Stop making atheist laugh at us brother. Even scientist proved the biblical Israelites were blacks. I can give you that link.


Learn to be humble enough to learn, the bible neither said God was black nor Jesus, why the speculation?<< the bible didnt say it according to you because you didnt see it. Humble and learn trash? ;DSmh

Are you saying the bible is lying?<< you are the one saying the bible is lying, not me

10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine. (Lamentations 5:10)

The above doesn't mean they were black as oven literally but due to the farmine and distress they lost shape, for example most cush nations which experience poverty are usually not having a white look as normal but black, this is a very obvious fact that when there is suffering and farming people become blacker.
<< another lie from the pit of hell. Can you prove it that it wasnt literal? black like an oven. Thats just description, it didnt say black as an oven. I know some albinos in the north, they are poor, heat from the sun, but they havnt turned black. The whites in Egypt, Ethiopia were the sun is very hot, they havnt turned black. this is fact bro. I know an Albino who has kwashiokwo, he hasnt turned black. You are not speaking with facts. Even if a whiteman goto Ethiopia and suffer he can never become a black man.

As of the leprosy, I don't know if whites do have them, I don't just speculate.<< is google no longer your friend?

haibe: Lol, learn not to make speculations, it's very bad, I noticed this in the other thread too, God is not a man and so cannot be termed black like a physical being.

The description of Jesus in revelations is nothing physical, compare to the ancient of days in daniel 7:9, this are spiritual beings.

How would you think an human would have a voice as of many waters or a garment as white as snow, having a wheel as of a burning fire? This descriptions depicts their characteristics and not physical appearance.

Learn to be humble enough to learn, the bible neither said God was black nor Jesus, why the speculation?

Are you saying the bible is lying?

10 Our skin was black like an oven because
of the terrible famine. (Lamentations 5:10)

The above doesn't mean they were black as oven literally but due to the farmine and distress they lost shape, for example most cush nations which experience poverty are usually not having a white look as normal but black, this is a very obvious fact that when there is suffering and farming people become blacker.

As of the leprosy, I don't know if whites do have them, I don't just speculate.

haibe: First of all, this is the spiritual description of Jesus and not physical, white like wool doesn't mean he is black, wool is usually white and so the reason for such. If this is a physical description of Christ then you mean the ancient of days in daniel 7:9 is a physical and black man too? I doubt

I beheld till the thrones were cast down,
and the Ancient of days did sit, whose
garment was white as snow, and the hair of
his head like the pure wool: his throne was
like the fiery flame, and his wheels as
burning fire.(daniel 7:9)



Blackness here doesn't mean they are of a black race, it depicts their look as a result of the farmine.


10 Our skin was black like an oven because of
the terrible famine. (Lamentations 5:10)



See Lamentations 5:10 above, blackness not to be taken as a literal dark complexion or else you would be implying they were as black as an oven too.

OlaoChi: This was a Roman creation as they wanted a new religion to help take over the world

I can never trust anything in this Bible, because the old and new testament are talking about 2 different Gods

texanomaly: I think he's iridescent.

haibe: That passage is not about looks bro, do not confuse those who are still mild in the faith. Jesus could care less about his looks but rather believe and faith in Him.

Btw, the bible never said Jesus was black, all those verses you quoted are simply your misinterpretation and speculation, also whether he is black or green, it doesn't change who he is, it doesn't matter if you believe in him as the Son of God, not believing in his physical appearance.