₦airaland Forum

DMerciful:
How long did it take the UK to leave EU? Political process takes time. Once agreement to secede has been reached next is to negotiate assets and liabilities, relocations etc...these processes takes upto 3yrs or more

nthony10:
Yes cut off mark is very important because it kills the cancer of mediocrity and rewards hard work. The billionaires are not the problem in fact they are a blessing to any country. We have billionaires everywhere in Nigeria that buy properties abroad so it’s not the argument.
You still make the wrong assumption that all igbos must relocate to the South East or else they will loose their properties, it doesn’t work that way anymore my brother. I can understand why a billionaire won’t participation because they have a lot to loose but it doesn’t mean they are not in support.

Lastly creating more states isn’t the solution because it creates weak entities further strengthening the ever incompetent federal government.

mrvitalis:
U think kanu would beat NOI in biafra presidency election ? Even Peter obi would defeat him ...I can name 50 people that would win him hands down
Umiah even would win him

We support kanu because his idea is online with our goal which is get biafra once that's done he is done

selemempe:
1. Other enclaved countries. Biafra would not be the only enclaved country in the world.
Lesotho is entirely enclaved inside South Africa. They have a population of almost 3 million and still have a higher GDP per capita than Nigeria. As far as we can have an internationally brokered deal with Nigeria to freely allow us use Nigerian airspace for civilian planes, we would be just fine.

Does Nigeria have the right to refuse?

Assuming Nigeria agrees at a fee, how much will flight cost to and from igboland? You fly from US pay to get to Nigeria, and the airlines is also charged again in Nigeria to get to igboland.

2. Oil and gas money The south east has more oil and gas reserves than the Federal allocation it gets.
With oil in Abia and imo States and gas in Anambra state, we have enough of that resource to gradually build a more sustainable economy if we plan well. Don't forget that Nairobi Kenya was built with money from tea and coffee. Nairobi is more beautiful than Lagos built with oil money.
Electricity can also be generated with our gas reserves

Are we going to sell that oil to countries or use them ourselves?

And when we decide to sell, we will ship through the Nigerian waters and be charged for it. Making our oil more expensive that that of Nigeria. We have to be recognised as a country and the value of the currency determined before we trade.

What do you think will be the value of the currency of a nation that just started?


3. Military Today Igbos have no military and have no right to form a military. If we are allowed to go with our 5 states, we would have the right to build a military, To buy as much deadly weapons and defence technology as we can afford to buy. We can get Israel to even help us with a low budget iron Dome technology for aerial self defense. We can be able to take the war to any future enemies without being sitting ducks.

Good. Will there be q government to form the military? How will the ranks be chosen? Those who left the Nigerian military without pension and gratuity, how will they survive while a government is formed, before a new military is formed. Where will the resources for salaries come from?


3 Customs, immigration today Igbos have no right or sovereignty to defend our land. Any abokì can walk from futa jallon and come and settle in the hills of Enugu. All we can do is rant as far as fulani government refuses to act, we can't do anything. Any trailer filled with whatever can drive into SE today without us being able to check what is inside. With biafra we can legally mount checks on our borders to check what is going in and out according to international law. Do you know that oil is being smuggled out of Anambra on a daily basis? In biafra, we can have checks for things like that legally

What will people be coming to do when transport companies have to pay taxes in every state before they get to igboland and going back?

The oil will be more expensive because it passes through Nigeria with double tax before it gets to the foreign countries. So why buy from igboland when its cheaper to buy niger detla oil from Nigeria?

4. Passport if they allow us take our 5 states, we would also be obliged to drop the overabused Nigerian passport that can't even get you into Cape Verde. We would create our own passport and build its reputation on a virgin ground and with hindsight on how reputation can ruin a passport

Dont forget that igbos form 80% of Nigerians that are in asian prisons and commit crimes in South Africa. Google Nigerian caught with drugs, tell me if 80% of names that pop up are not igbo.

So Nigerian passport might have a better reputation.

Again, you need to be recognised first before you travel. Recognition is not done overnight, especially when other countries don't seem to gain much from you.

So while you wait for government to be formed. Those who resigned from immigration in Nigeria will be unemployed.

Then you wait for other countries to recognise you, before you form immigration, get passport and have embassies to apply for visa.


5. Foreign diplomacy today Igbos are not known in international politics. With our 5 states, we would have the right to join the United Nations. We would have the right to build relationships with other countries on equal basis. We can even become a closer friend and protege to Israel, Our president can stand Infront of the UN general assembly every year to speak for us. We would automatically become a sovereign people. Very very important

That is after you have fought to decide which tribe the president will come from.

6. Federal tax if we get our 5 states as biafra, all the billions of naira that goes from our region to Abuja in taxes will stop. That is money that we can use to build our nation

You are talking about IGR from states?

When you have no Electricity, cost of food is 10 times expensive, telecoms gone. Where is the IGR coming from?

Is it the IGR that will cater for all the igbos that have left Nigeria civil service with not jobs? Or those that left telecoms and banks? Adding this number to the number of unemployed youths already in igboland. Will it also provide housing for all those that returned?

7. Federal fees instead of paying Nigeria government for things like passport, driving license, vehicle papers, radio and TV licences etc, you pay it to the Biafran government. That money can help us achieve a lot.

Before the car you bought in US gets to igboland you pay twice for shipping. Shipping to Nigeria first, then to Nigeria. A car that cost 2 million in Nigeria can cost 4 million in igboland. So how much are you paying Nigeria for drivers license ?

Dont forget igbos working in immigration in Nigeria are back home without pension and gratuity. Will the money few igbos pay passport, be able to cater for them and their families? Considering the fact that it might take up to 5 years, before countries decide to bring their embassy to igboland.



8. Policing in our 5 states, we will no longer have abokì people mounting road blocks on our roads and killing our hustling youths in the name of policing all because of deep-seated hatred. Biafra police would be 100% Igbo

First igbos in police, army etc are back without jobs. No pension, no gratuity. No allocation from federal government. How will they be surviving and waiting for elections to hold? Government setup, recruitment takes place . As considering the fact that things are more expensive in igboland. High level of unemployment, adding those who returned with their families, what do you think the crime rate in igboland will look like?

9. Airport and travel with biafra of 5 states, we would now fly and land in Enugu (for instance) instead of Lagos or Abuja. Our government can even partner Air Peace to create an airline carrier that can later rival Ethiopian airlines. Where there is a will there is a way. Remember that

Yes. You will land in enugu but pay heavy taxes to fly over Nigeria . So its cheaper to operate an airline in Nigeria than small Biafra. Why will an airline pay huge taxes to operate in biafra with less passengers, than Nigeria?

Remeber you can fly into biafra from any country in the world, but you have to wait for recognition and embassies to come before you can travel from biafra.

10. Sea port it gets tricky here but we have options that may be better than going to Lagos to clear our goods. We can import with more air cargo than with ships. Or We can spend money and dredge the river Niger and dock at Onitsha river port. All we need to do as a country is to buy barges and keep them at onne port or Duala port, once a ship docks there, all cargoes going into Biafra would be transferred to the badges and sailed up the river Niger to Onitsha. Or We can also negotiate with Nigeria to use the Enugu-port Harcourt rail to transport containers and pay Nigerian customs. Either way, we would be fine.

Lol. So you fly a car by air, than clear it in lagos? The cargo plane still has to pay taxes to fly through Nigeria. That means a car of 2 million in Nigeria can sell for 10 million in biafra.

Dredging to the sea will take q minimum of 5 years, even if biafra can afford it without allocation.

11. Capital flight to Lagos and Abuja Igbos who are quick to build their mansions and businesses in Lagos, Abuja, port Harcourt etc would be forced to come home as they automatically lose the right to live freely in Nigeria. Those returning igbos and their money would help us start building or country from day one

So when cars are sold for 2 million in lagos they will return home to buy cars for 7 million and sell for 8-10 million?

They will close their business and return to biafra. Then wait for the fight for which state will produce president, do elections, etc. What will they be doing during this time?

Cc gidgiddy

selemempe:
lol. Government already privatised NEPA dumb ass.
You make me sick

selemempe:
I wanted to reply your original post until I read the bolded and realized you don't know anything about anything.
You are not intelligent enough to talk about biafra

onlyson16:
let me ask u brother, 1st. How was ur today? Hope u av eaten? Is ur mother an ashawo? Do well to research about ur mother.

Enyimbafc:
U are just an educated illiterate son of a bitch,small boy looking for attention,igbos fought a war for more than 3yrs and today the are one of the most succesrful tribe in Africa,that is why u post topic concerning them every day.Assuming the are failures like other tribes in Nigeria,u will not come here to post rubbish.

obasiken:
Oga...Igbos have tried your Nigeria from 1970 till now ...we are tired.
The topic says if Biafra is handed over peacefully ...I never advocated for war.

it's like living as an orphan in your wicked Stepmother's house. she will make sure you dont succeed more than her children. Now imagine when her children are idiots (fulani herdsmen). the only way to succeed is to leave the house and take yur destiny in yur hands.

nthony10:
Please let’s get something straight, this whole agitation to be a separate country has nothing to do with Kanu, like someone put it he is just a symptom of a larger problem.

The same way we have billionaires from other areas of Nigeria is the same in the SE so they shouldn’t be the reason for the poor state of development there. Also There’s nothing like eldorado because even the north that has a lions share of development it is not an eldorado.

Mabey you are not understanding the real reason, it has to do with the structure of the country where the south is less represented than the north in the NA, where those who are blessed with resources happen to be the least developed, a system where someone from Lagos or Porthacourt has to score 450 to qualify whereas someone in katsina just needs to have 200 to qualify for the same course. These and many more are injustices that just can’t be swept under the carpet.

From my experience with them,An average easterner would choose to be poor and free than conditioned against his will, Mekaboy should know that.

So to answer your plenty questions (even though there’s malicious intent inside) the Igbos are more than capable of handling themselves. Read what Obasiken wrote

obasiken:
Go and ask unknown gun men how they make their arms

Biafra pound was used during the civil war... the value and cost of goods can be determined by an agency and slowly the market will determine the true value.

international exchange rate will be determined by Finance minister.

if biafra is handed over today, I can assure you No one will starve to death....
My village in Ohafia Abia survived without Nepa/phcn/enugu disco for over 20 yrs..

we can go on and on but I have to work now. The Truth still stands Igbos will survive and prosper.

Chidexter:
Bro first of all, there's something called transition. All the things you said was under hypothetical 31st , no secession, break up or disintegration is given such a short time. I don't even want to go into the stress of debunking each points you raised one by one.

obasiken:
No one is looking to become the greatest nation in the world. Igbo another option because what we have on ground is not working. suggestions for biafra if handover happens

- States govts will absorb all igbo federal service workers

Pay them with which money? Without allocation?


- Gratuity will have to be forfeited, some will return to work

Which work? How will they survive financially? Housing nko?

- for those that want to stay back in Nigeria, igbos have survived Togo, Benin republic. any tax on igbos will be added to cost of goods and sold to Nigerians

You mean Igbo's pay heavy taxes, bring the goods to igboland and then sell to Nigerians that will come to igbo land to buy? Remember the taxes will be paid jn every state as the goods are transported down east. It will be more expensive buying goods in igboland. Even transport coming to and fro to igboland will be taxed.

-come back and work in biafra security service/police
How will the security service work? How will arms be purchased? From Nigeria or outside Nigeria?


-Return to biafra and work,

- Seaport in Blue river Abia
How long will it take for the sea port to be built? The ship will still be taxed for passing the Nigeria water ways.

-Start selling oil in Abia and Imo and developers gas in Imo for revenue.

Sell oil and gas to igbos or outside world?

start to raise more IGR from tax

Taxing collapsed businesses without electricity?


-take over and nationalize all Telcos and operate them with igbo engineers

Take over from who? TELCOS that have license in Nigeria?


-1 megawatt facility in Alaoji Abia state ...start there and build our power conpany

How long will this take and how will businesses and hospitals be run, during this setup?


--Local farming

Now that igbos are all over Nigeria, 70% of food comes from the north. It is now this emergency farming that will feed all igbos that will return to igboland?



-Onitsha and Aba have neva relied on Nepa...go and ask

So they use fuel to power gen? Fuel that is supplied by NNPC?

-Biafra have more than enough schools for all biafrans as at today

Nice one. Who will pay the fees? The parents who have lost their jobs or the ones whose businesses have collapse due to lack of electricity.

Just a few suggestions

Most important is, what currency js used and how is the value determined?

afube:
bros you really need to change the drug dealer that sells you the crack you shoot up your nose, I feel he is mixing your stuff with cheap detergent, you will not write about the thousands of lives being wasted by government-sponsored Fulani herdsmen........Igbo matter kii you there.

Chidexter:
The fool even said let's discuss this your biafra. People mumu sha

History555:
Taxes your gov is stealing is your contribution. So its tru taxes which am sure is not up to 10,000 naira that's your contribution. So when they are raising funds for development in your community you refer them to taxes.

SweetiliciousD:
You are a BOY.

When you become a man, you definitely will think like a man.

mrvitalis:
International airport ? Biafra would licences it's airport international students , banks we have igbo owned banks they would relocate to biafra , even if we don't banks would come
Electricity , lmao we have power plants in obigbo n aba another one in imo that's over 1700mw installed capacity ...2500 coming up soon in imo ...we are used to gen already na

It's not your business how we build biafra n kanu didn't sale anything to us he might not even be elected

History555:
There is no biafra yet, so your question is irrelevant..
In the absence of kanu Kardashian, what is your contribution to lgbo land. Moral support does not build community roads, hospitals or schools

mrvitalis:
Lol google the Nigerian gas master plan ...imo gas power Lagos seems you are really a kid

It's impossible for Niger delta to remain in Nigeria if igbos leave even if they do which is not a big deal

First every agency in Nigeria would be esterblished for biafra and naturally igbos expelled from Nigeria would kick start those agencies ..from army to police to ministries to government agencies

As for building and business our daughter is WTO president remember even if she wasn't we would meet Nigeria in international court and would win

Even if we lose everything WE ARE IGBOS with our peoples government by our side rebuilding is what we do and we do

Okoroawusa:
Did you just say "survived"?

... don't provoke me this afternoon

obasiken:
Everything mentioned here happened during the civil war ....yet Igbo people survived for 3 years. Necessity is the mother of invention.

History555:
Thank God you know you are a failure
After all the noise making you have not made a single contribution to the anambra you claim to come from. Shebi all those people tarring roads, building schools and hospitals have two heads and four leg. In the gathering of men who have made impact in lgbo land, you should keep quite and serve drinks or join the women meeting

History555:
Kanu has not contributed anything. True
But you at the age of 40, what is your contribution.

gidgiddy:
Its not about Kanu, its sbout if Igbos would rather have their own separate country or remain part of Nigeria

Im an Igbo man who wanted Igbos to have their own separate country long before I knew who Kanu was

Cammo:
Loool! I'm not a Biafran but I'm close enough to that place. Just asking because you've been losing sleep over their matter. If it's not for the dough then you're a sore losers, bruh!

gidgiddy:
There very few things in life as important as freedom. It would be an honour for Igbos to endure all this but have their own independent country.

Cammo:
Are they paying you for all this back and forth threads you create every 20 minutes on Biafra?

gidgiddy:
All of these things are a very small price to pay for one to have his freedom, independence and sovereignty