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iamoyindamola:
So why do they feel remorseful when they are eventually arrested
Or why did the law go after them

So you definition of evil is when the doer is remorseful? This guy you are funny.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Do you have any proof of this?

To be honest, we all have been exposed to some form of religion. I laughed when I saw here that China is irreligious .....Says who?

Only about 20% of Chinese are Atheists. The rest have one form of religion or the other.

Because you are irreligious doesn't mean you are not exposed to it.

I doubt if there's anyone who was born and grew up to old age, without any exposure to any form of religion.[/color]

Fact

Roland17:
Melvyn, do you realize you are making my point for me?

The irreligious/ never been exposed to any form of religion/ atheists amongst the serial killer in the same society, who are not serial killers or scammers but frown upon killing and fraud, what were they influenced by?

All atheist or irreligious are still influenced by religious beliefs.

Roland17:
There are no consequences for Jehovah Witness members because they don't celebrate Christmas. Nobody flogs them, so that example can not be applied.

Now, let me ask you ...

Are there consequences under Sharia as practiced in the North for alcohol use or "improper" dressing?

I await your answer..

Are they consequences if a lady wears trousers to a church that forbids it? Yes. Does that make the church evil? Your answer is right there.

Roland17:
The embolden is all I need because you have made my point. Before your current morality, religious morality I must add, how did humans decipher evil from bad?

Is Religion the ONLY factor that influences morality?

Humans have always used religion or the belief in a superior being to determine good and evil.

Roland17:
What if the serial killer or yahoo boys are irreligious? Or are serial killings and fraud exclusive to religious people?

So if a serial killer is irreligious that makes his action good? I am trying to understand your point.

Roland17:
But it is.

Certain tenets of Sharia define actions like alcohol consumption/ dressing as evil with consequences but Southern Muslims disagree and are rejecting it because they believe differently... So who is evil amongst both? How did Southern Muslims come to the conclusion that certain tenets of the Sharia are not evil/ bad? I mean, the same religion.. If they all agree about Sharia why the push back from Southern Muslims?



Stop underrating the power of the human brain!

Rejecting certain religious teachings is not evil. How is that hard? Jehovah witness don't celebrate Christmas, That doesn't make them evil. Some Pentecostal churches don't believe in the Trinity, that doesn't make them evil as well. Some churches permit jeans and trousers for ladies others don't.

Roland17:
Hahahaaa..You and who?

Religion is a social construct and more importantly, the idea of morality isn't exclusive to religion. Religion can influence morality, however, the same morality is influenced by other factors. Let me ask you, what is morality? Is morality the action or the inherent intention/ thoughts?

A person harbors the thoughts/ intention to kill but has not killed because of his religion, would you say that person has good morals?

Our current morality is shaped by religion. Religion(Christianity) is the biggest factor to our current moral standards. Without religion you have no basics to say something is good or evil.

Your question is using the religious angle and thoughts and intentions are judged as well so no.

iamoyindamola:
I don’t need to explain why stealing is evil
Your reaction will explain it unless you are saying you will be happy afterwards

So reaction is what proves something is evil. So serial killers that kill people and feel no remorse that means they did good? Yahoo boys that are happy after catching out that means it's good? The fact you cannot explain why stealing is bad without using a religious concept proves my point.

iamoyindamola:
Exactly when you need religion to tell you good or evil then there’s problem.
If I steal your property I don’t need any holy book to prove to me I have done you evil

Then explain why stealing is evil?

Roland17:
The embolden is grossly false. If we go by your understanding the world would become chaotic because of the different interpretation of evil. The word "evil" has evolved over centuries even before the advent of religion. Religion, did not define what evil is. Religion may have influenced the definition of morality but not good/ evil. Law and Religion are 2 different concepts, don't confuse yourself.

I have asked you, how about those who do not identify with any religion? How do they decipher between good and evil? Religion is a human invention, how did man survive before the advent of religion? In the Sharia issue between the North and South, who defines what is right or wrong? I mean, we have 2 groups practicing the same religion but different acceptance of what is good/ evil.

You and I know evil is a religious concept. Every society in human history has had their views of good/bad shaped by religion. It is obvious that humans need an higher authority to unite around a shared morals. The laws you are talking about was shaped from religious concepts.

I don't see the Sharia thing between the North and the South a matter of good or evil.

Roland17:
Japan is one that comes to mind. Humans survived before the creation of religion because as humans we adapt. Religion, especially it's abuse, in some ways undermines the cognitive abilities of the human mind. The idea behind religious morality is primarily hinged on the fear of punishment and consequence from a higher being. Essentially, man is held back from committing evil because of that fear, not necessarily because they don't believe in the evil. I used the ongoing Sharia situation between Northern and Southern Muslims as example.

Every morality has it's punishment and fear factor. The reason people obey laws is due to fear and the punishment that comes with it.

Roland17:
I have strong personal values that are guided by ethics and influenced by upbringing and life experiences. There are people/ countries who are irreligious, or have a high percentage of their population that don't identify with any religion, what are they guided by?

Religion is a perfect example of social construct and since it is plural in practice, the definition of evil/ good becomes subjective and that is why we have laws. A perfect example is the ongoing Sharia issue between the North and Southern Muslims..

This is why 6 pastors can read the same verse and end up with 6 different interpretations.

You are misunderstanding my question. Evil is regarded as a religious concept. So without belonging to a certain religion you can't understand the concept of evil.

Saying you don't need religion to know good and bad is like me saying I don't need the law to know good or bad. If a law was passed down today that abortion is legal or killing is legal does that make it good or bad?

Roland17:
I have always maintained that I don't need religion to decipher between good and evil.


Also, if na based on the kain righteousness when dem dey preach about, I no sure say naija go get up to 50 representatives for heaven.

What is the concept of evil without a religious context. How do you decide what's evil?

andrewbaba44:
Greatest champions league robbery ,if dem show you first leg now you go turn blind man

The last time you Played chelsea you robbed them at the bernabeu

A Madrid fan have no right to be speaking about robbery ,your legacy is built on robbery ,Florentino Perez planning to bring English refs to Spain to perfect the criminal jobs he has been doing

Even the president of Laliga Javier tebas is a Madrid fan ,premier league ,seria A nobody knows the club their president support ,it’s only different in Spain

Are you done?

hensben:
This one is bad too but Madrid are just worse. Madrid have robbed Bayern three ucls by cheating. Cr7 won’t even be mentioned near Messi if not for Madrid’s fraudulent activities. We all can see how useless he is for Portugal in tournament. Ronaldo only had one genuine season that he was really good which was 2007/2008 for Man U, the rest was stat padding in dubious way.

Show me how Madrid robbed Bayern 3 times. The greatest robberies in Champions league history all belongs to Barcelona and Messi hence the name Uefalona. Am not going to be wasting my time replying the other gibberish you included.

hensben:
Na why I Dey always attack cr7 fan trying to talk down Messi’s achievement. Most Ronaldo’s goal in ucl for Madrid were offside and diving for pk.

A Chelsea fan who witnessed the greatest champions league robbery of the 21st century is typing this bollocks.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Sure...

If I was doing Yahoo, God knows I can never buy a Lexus.

Na Sienna I go buy...Use Chaplet and Church sticker design the backscreen

Then put better, 3kg KJV Bible for front.

If you stop me, na "Shalom" I go first reply.[/color]

Different format dey for this one o. They will be like Chief bless us with something. "God sent you to us" Na only elderly people and women police nor dey use format for.

Amigoss:
This cannever happen in Edo,No politician can ever try it maybe because the king is not handpicked, chosen or appointed by politicians but ordained...

When Ambrose Allison wanted to try it

https://x.com/AbdulMahmud01/status/1237053358000783365

Edo will just burn down. No Governor can dethrone the Oba of Benin.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] He's correct oh.

One day, a lady in my shopping line called me to help her collect a waybill from Okeyson park. It was a herbal medicine sha.

Na so I collect am, enter bike. Police stopped me, and asked what was inside. I say na herbal medicine. Dem ask me the use. I told them I do not know, but let me call my "sister" that sent me.

Dem say na drug trafficking oh .

I later called her, she explained. Then they asked me to buy coke for them.

Nothing wey Police no fit use collect money.[/color]

Police fit even use your appearance bill you. These guys dey learn from Nigerian girls wella. The will be like see this fresh guy, oya do something for us before you go

Amigoss:
Na the league standings dem take run am,better than the hot and cold ball shitshow they put up as draw then

I am tired of City. This is the 4th time we are playing them in a row.

iamoyindamola:
This I deep, be like you chop breakfast on top money bouquet while you were in naija

This nigga lmao 😂

AbokiWam:
Are you aware the creators of this money bouquet charge 35k or 40k as exchange fees for a bouquet of 20 thousand naira...
You have to buy mint first
I don price am before..I been wan do.

They allege they buy mint notes from naira sellers at a high rate.

This should get scrapped
Apart from the fact that it is naira abuse it also devalues the naira

Imagine using your 40k to buy 20k all because your girlfriend wants fancy shitshow

For who

Savinho vs Vazquez

DeadPresidents:
If you need further confirmation that we’re a nation of 180 Million mad people, don’t look further than the money bouquet.

Taking your currency and folding it into origami like an autistic kindergarten pup. Wetin be the difference between doing that and picking bread to eat from a dumpyard?

Too many mad people in this country fam

You are reading way too much into it. It’s a creative way to give a gift. It's not that much different from buying gifts and wrapping them up.

I hate playing City. Uefa has rigged this draw

Bro is asking if he should confront her. Wetin man do man .

Hilda reached out to the lady that complained.

larride:
Money wey she for use play Mr Banks game ehn bros Mevlyn11, she for dey in profit now.

Sport betting has ruin and will continue to ruin a lot of lives. That's why developed countries has strong regulations when it comes to gambling.

What all these bet influencers will cause ehn.

Lmao.....I checked the post and she was playing virtual the devil itself. Enough said. If you know you know . In whatever you dont get addicted and have self control . The key point Is "addiction" . I could share countless stories of sex, drugs, Drinks etc ruining various people due to being addicted.

Sportsweb:
To be honest, there is no davido's scandal since he officially married Chioma in June or July last year

Yh true. Hopefully being married has changed him.

andrewbaba44:
Na you Dey quote me and na my Dey cry

I quote to thank you but your tears con dey too much. Try relax

andrewbaba44:
I will be consoling myself with this which I have won on your head by disgracing your useless club

Win the Laliga first ,that’s how you guys celebrated audio vini ballon d or

Why are crying? I said thank you for upgrading. Your upgrade has bottled a 9point lead which favoured my club. Once again thank you 🙏